Crosswind full-slip glider landing

[PeterPaul175]

That is not a "full" slip landing - it is a forward slip, just as the commentator says.

[unicyclehoopster]

awsome landing. checkout unicyclehoopster on youtube

[4ucarlosmurphy]

Where are all these freak'n pop-ups coming from all of a sudden?

[gilbert20]

I used to fly a 2-32, and I admire this pilot's skill in slipping. Really a textbook exercise, done well.

[TC07TC]

Pilot #1

[SAYYOURROSARY]

Those thing fly so accurate you can slide em in there because  the wing loading is so low .

[IndyHelis]

I too was taught not to slip near the flare point... I learned to fly gliders in germany while in the army. I had several instructors that rotated. One of them was a german fighter pilot. Slipping that low is ok in a powered plane but i always approached a tad more upwind so control inputs were minimal. Also if approach was short with high altitude i was taught to slip it really hard where the wingtip itself is pointing towards the runway then to switch back to the opposite side.

[lbchuma]

@IndyHelis like what, like you're tacking?

[MauiWake]

Good landing! I actually like making crosswind landings..

[sirazzatron]

That's some bloody good flying!

[kurtlimejello]

@sirazzatron Well, thank you. It was a great exercise.

[MrZeddy100]

That's a great landing! But if it was me I'd need some new undies!!

[kurtlimejello]

@MrZeddy100 Hah! Well, it's easier than it looks.

[PInk77W1]

awesome job. just got done watching the 5 part series on the GIMLI GLIDER

[LunayyVirgilia85]

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[IMRKJMSBITCH]

Beautiful....



[maclarn91]

Nice 232..One of the nicer ones I've seen any way.

[Sergeantsteamer]

SWEET!!!! That's a GREAT pilot right there now. Lol

[DamnThatsAwesome]

skills! good job

[pfcriffle]

VERY impressive sir! Thanks for the lesson!

[vazav]

Good job!

But asi learned from my coach - it is not good idea to slip close to ground, it is dangerous if you lost speed and stall? and some chance to move stick forward to increase speed. He recommends to me do it not less than 20-40 meter above ground.

[kurtlimejello]

@vazav I disagree, and think you need a new coach. You'll be slipping for any strong crosswind landing in order to track the runway, (or else you need to crab and de-crab right at landing, which has its own perils).

[ChrisA7X89]

@vazav Well there are several - espacially older - gliders which can be landed only by using slip. The aerobatic glider LO 100 for example has no speed brakes and can only be landed by sliping it to the ground.

[pedepanox]

Teve a manha

[pushitgently001p]

Forward slip... Good job mate...excelent skills

[baierlh]

wow nice

[pilot5342]

xd oh my god what is he doing? XDD

[denverJPUE]

damn gliders are so noisy!!!!

[AirCanada04]

I get scared when I slip my Schweizer, I remember when an Air Canada pilot slipped a 767, oh...how I saw that on the news, a few days after it crashed, I was on holiday in Cancun.

[FBFTheRagingWarrior]

@AirCanada04 ITs not like your afraid of dying?

[daantjebest]

Nice crosswond landig...

[lbeneditti]

nice

[captaintwice]

Amazing Control and great job!!

No means of propulsion = no go-around = better get it right the first time, mate!! Cheers.... :))

[lolol7483]

what kind of glider is this??

[Cougarfreak2]

guy, there are also speed brakes you can use!

[kurtlimejello]

@Cougarfreak2 the whole point of the exercise was to learn what happens if you have to land without them.

[Cougarfreak2]

@kurtlimejello ah. ok. but i don't want to get into a situation when i cant use them......

[rockhopper123452]

@Cougarfreak2 i dont think gliders use spped breaks

[Cougarfreak2]

@rockhopper123452 glider must use them, otherwise you can't do a good approach.

are you a glider pilot? i am one, believe me, no one at our club lands without them.

[Aviator111167]

@Cougarfreak2 Learn to read

[catsfiveuk]

Very nicely done. Only problem with side slip in a glider is that a lot of single-seat gliders will drop the nose if you get the airbrakes out as well, as they stop the elevator working. Twin seat it doesn't seem to be an issue, or not so much of one.

[Nicodemus98]

Great job. Slips, as I understand, can be pretty hairy in a sail plane. I'm not a glider pilot but, it's no day at the beach in a powered aircraft. Putting down at a 45 to the runway tend to make certain areas of the body tighten up a bit. But, I really can't imagine the process in a glider. You made it look easy. Again, Great job.

[kurtlimejello]

@Nicodemus98 Thanks. Actually, it's very easy to slip gliders... you just need to remember that if you also have spoilers open, you can really plummet (which is handy if you're running out of runway!)

[gilbert20]

@kurtlimejello The Grob I fly can really turn sideways, even a bit more than the 2-32, which I have also flown. Either plane though, this was an excellent landing.

[kurtlimejello]

@gilbert20 Thank you!

[Juliandonkersloot]

Good job!

[227xXSteffenXx227]

0:22 landing !!

[BrainfuckEmt]

can you do the Slip the other way around?

I have great difficulties, slipping to the right

[kurtlimejello]

@BrainfuckEmt Sure... Either way.

[tamacol]

@BrainfuckEmt you cnat just slip to any side. the proper way is to use the rudder to the opposite direction from where the wind is coming and bank into the wind. for example, if the wind is coming off your right, you apply left rudder and bank right. basically putting the wings into the wind.

[MrTumnus8896]

That excerise is v. difficult and looks likie you aced it. Well done.

[kurtlimejello]

@MrTumnus8896 Thank you.

[mulymule12]

skilled landing good disition with no air brakes

[granzukakoko]

good job done !

[deweypug]

Wasn't that a really late slip? Looked more like a crab...

[kurtlimejello]

@deweypug A slip was used to get the plane down, as use of the spoilers was prohibited by the instructor for the exercise. As you notice, I was doing a forward slip (which is essentially a crab + a slip) for much of the time.

[deweypug]

@kurtlimejello A slip is used to decrease altitude without increasing speed. A crab is simply an action to head in the desired direction despite wind...

[kurtlimejello]

@deweypug Well, you are correct.... sounds like we are in violent agreement.

[kinekcinek]

beautifull landing !!!

[kurtlimejello]

@kinekcinek Thank you! It was a fun and fruitful exercise.

[kinekcinek]

@kurtlimejello - hehe have good thermals and c ya someday in sky ;-)

[newlifeform]

wonderful

[MrTiti]

bad slip initiation, bad out of the slip ... wtf? lol

[yputup]

very nice sideslip landing, very nice indeed.

[maxibaer]

that was like really, ahm, i dont know.

Gotta love a good comment when you hear one :-)

[Strftw]

for a cross wind, no dive brakes, that was extremely well done

[kurtlimejello]

Thanks!

[LulJam]

whats full slip?

[kurtlimejello]

Bringing the plane down by lowering the wing and using the rudder in the opposite direction. This makes the plane less efficient, and can be used when you want to spill off altitude quickly.

[twcpilot]

its a full deflection of the rudder and enough ailerons to keep the glider going stright, in this case both a foward slip (used to increse drag) and a sideslip (to slip into the wind and keepo stright down the runway centreline)

[Lynkk]

definetely a great landing

[JohnGHawk]

Impressive!

[Wells1955ATC]

WOW show off

[kurtlimejello]

Well, I guess by posting this it is showing off. I just did what the instructor told me to do.

[puchatekkubus123]

good pilot

[bionichb]

skill..

[ev13wt]

Wow what a cali type chick. :smile:

[PlayerHater117]

The controls are a little more sensitive. They respond faster, but it isn't so severe that you overfly very often. In my experience with crosswind landings it's a lot easier than it looks. But I haven't done a slip THAT crooked on final approach before.

[ysflightman]

lol the girl... "o mah gah! what's he doing?"... and later... "that looks like... really umm..."exiting" "...yah like.. i dunno!"

[Smudgegs]

Lovely landing and neat video, just one request... dive BRAKES in the description ;)

Cool though :)

[dhaivatjoshi]

that was hell of a good looking glider, lol

[mathieuplaneur]

Nice done!

[AsianInva5ion]

Shit dude that was extreme. Sick landing, what as the cross wind? 20knots, 45 degree?

[janmanpeterpan]

OMG WHAT'S HE DOING HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[Yllod]

IMHO this is a completely useless training. If the spoilers were to fail, the would fail the other way around, being sucked into the airflow and staying extended. I just don't see how could they fail to extend. I know a number of people who suffered involuntary extension of airbrakes, but none, none absolutely who could not deploy them.

[kurtlimejello]

There have been cases where water in the mechanism has frozen, locking the spoilers closed. You could also have a linkage failure.

[Yllod]

In the frozen case, could be. If it's the linkage that fails, the spoiler would be free and sucked into the wing's lift. That happened to a friend of mine who forgot to connect the spoiler... Thank god, I'm flying an ASW-24 with automatic connections, so that's not a problem to me.

[omarbadr36]

what are automatic connections exactly ?

[Yllod]

No hotelier connections, no safety pins, no manually connecting the control pushrods between the fuselage (from the stick) to the wings (ailerons and brakes). Connections are integrated into the wing root via sockets, so once rigged all the controls are connected automatically.

[omarbadr36]

Wow that would be amazing, thanks. Happy flying. I'm a student on the PW-6

[glydrjocky]

Useless training??????? We have had gliders at this very airport in wave conditions return to the airport with the spoilers frozen solid. Could not be opened during the landing checklist. This training allowed them to make perfect forward slip landings. My friend was one of the guys it happened to. I just completed a commercial glider flight review and I had to demonstrate a full forward slip to landing in our 2-32's just like the ones in this video. The training here is invaluable!

[Mtrhd0024]

Yea, I don't see how this is useless training at all. I'm working on my PPL in a DA20 Katana, which is kinda similar to a motor glider, and it has a very good glide ratio which make flap up landings hard. I used to practice slips all the time, and if you're way high on approach (say your engine failed, you've got one chance to land) you can use a slip to lose large amounts of altitude without significantly increasing airspeed (like lowering the nose would) to get the airplane on the ground.

[FlyinTheNetherlands]

Sounds like the 'Gimli Glider', do you know that?

[kurtlimejello]

I do know about the Gimli Glider... but I think it is a huge reach to compare landing a large jet deadstick, vs. landing a small glider.

[YoungJim409]

...and I was just about to say forward slips, not just for 767s!

[FlyinTheNetherlands]

@glydrjocky

Ice would be pilot's mistake ;). You always have to check before flight (or at the beginning of the day) if there is no water inside and otherwise just don't fly if temp is below zero C.

[panther105]

We teach spoiler failure landings at Dillingham Airfield in Hawaii. 9000' paved with approx. 45 degree steady tradewinds. It just blows our students' minds when they see how much of the runway they use up in ground effect. The glider just does not want to land. Thanks for this....

[kurtlimejello]

Glad you liked it. I too was stunned on how much runway it took. Having gone through this exercise, I would recommend it to every glider pilot.

[JulianoPastucho]

Not bad langing ;).

[shanonobanion]

Some one pulls something hard to do off, and all these "experts" blather on about how they know better..

[uploader1010]

that was like really um... HAHAHAH LMAO

[singerDUDEfromNYC]

lol

[joshycash]

'oh my god whats he doing?'

'That was like really um. . . .'

[aviatorlegend2]

HAHA, I was going to say the same thing you did..you beat me to it!

[DougRodrigues]

First, it's improper to slip to the downwind side, IF that was a slip. Looks more like a crab with the final rudder kick to straighten out at touchdown. And yes, I have many hours in a 2-32 if you were wondering.

[kurtlimejello]

Much of the pattern was flown in a slip, using the slip for glide-slope control instead of spoilers. Just before touching down, you can see I'm doing a combination of crabbing and slipping as I'm trying to get the plane on the ground and manage the cross wind.

[ALLofTHEWORDS]

whooooo hooooo! that looks like fun if you dig that you should learn to skydive there's where the action is.

[confuseddottom]

I was on instruction in a Twin Astir and trying to thermal with only limited success. The instructor eventually said, "I'm sorry, but we've got to go in now." I was running out of height and ended up making my final turn (below 300ft is forbidden at our club) well into the field. The wind had changed since the start of operation so it was a downwind landing. The instructor took control and sideslipped it the length of the field. The Deputy CFI's comment was a terse, "That looked exciting."

[muggles1985]

Wow now this throws up a whole heap of issues...even if you were low you should have been in the high key area of your circuit at a sensible-ish height, and if the wind had changed direction that would have actually left you at low key with plenty of height. I think this is a valuable lesson in why you should keep an eye on the windsock whenever you're nearing circuit height, thus being able to change the landing direction if required. Your instructor certainly should have spotted it...

[ryanm406638]

I am more afraid of being 5 feet high on a ladder than I am flying in an airplane/glider. I wanna go for a ride and do some aerobatics I am itching for that!

Really cool video by the way! It's funny, to me it looks more like crabbing than a slip...

[kurtlimejello]

Well, you can see that I'm going in and out of the slip as the wing goes down and up. I was a student, and very tentative as I was trying to make my way to the ground without spoilers. But with 6,000 feet of runway, I could afford to be tentative. :-)

FWIW: I used the whole 6,000 feet!

(This really makes me appreciate the need to test your spoilers while on downwind).

[ysblueangels]

what was that, 10, 12 knots? Not much time to have fun while you're in there but I bet it's fun to watch the video. Nice vid. You did hold the crab a little long though, i would have gone to slip half way down final.

[Pilotgecko]

I'll fly a plane anyday... flying a glider... that would scare the crap out of me.!.!

[kurtlimejello]

That's too bad...it really is a lot of fun and not scary.

[Pilotgecko]

I might one day... when my eng. quits.. just seems like you all are doing an engineout .. except you do it every time...

[kurtlimejello]

Yeah, though I've got a 150FPM sink rate and a 40:1 glide ratio...very different equation.

[gilbert20]

@kurtlimejello Well, I must admit this is the first time I have ever heard of a 2-32 with a glide ratio of 40:1! I The 2-32 I flew was closer to 32:1. Did you have secret little rockets hiding in the fuselage?

[kurtlimejello]

@gilbert20 Hmmm... did I imply this had 40:1?? Mistake, if so.

[Rickenbacker69]

A glider IS a plane, and probably safer than a Cessna or what have you, since we fly with an off-field landing in mind all the time, and plan accordingly. When the fan stops on a small general aviation plane, you have much less time to do something, and fewer options.

[Pilotgecko]

I can't really rationalize my fear... it's just something about not being in control that irks me. It sure looks like fun though! I'm sure its safe with all the planning and even if you had an off field one, chances are it would not be as bad as a cessna falling out of the sky.

[Rickenbacker69]

Funny thing is that I'm actually more scared flying our motor glider, which has a glide ratio of just under 30:1 - three times that of a Cessna 172. Feels like I drop like a rock when I pull back the throttle :).

[atom2009]

Nice, my first flight in a glider was a strong crosswind day. I miss flying in gliders started when I was 15 got about 8hrs and its been 15 years since. I was so light at the time I sat on 20lb weight under my pillow coushin.

[ian5920]

Nice work

[cjracer1000]

"omg whats he doing!!!" lol that is sooo funny that is standard procuder well for all i kknow

[stillhewalks]

cool gliding search stillhewalks Bud Sutherland gliding video clip pathe studio 1932 holds record 72 consecutive loops

[Rickenbacker69]

Nice. And kind of funny to see how easily non-fliers are amazed by standard(-ish) procedures. Had to do a pretty aggressive sideslip the first time I landed off-field, but that was of course WITH spoilers, as I did the standard thing everyone does the first time - put my base line WAY too close to the field.

[angeldel02]

I can understand a freeze up. I've been soaring for the last five years in really hot and humid weather. Never crossed my mind a frozen spoiler or airbrakes.

[kurtlimejello]

You know that step in the pre-landing checklist that is verifying your spoilers work? After trying this exercise, trust me you will never discount the value of that step.

[angeldel02]

yup i hear ya. USTALL ( Under Carrg. Speed. Trim. AIRBRAKES. Look (TRAFFIC) Land.

[Orwall]

As a newbie glider (solo) pilot, I can only admire the perfect slip-only landing this pilot very nicely demonstrates. Indeed, slip requires not only one wing lower (here right) but full pedal to counter-act (here, full left). I know that in the old days, this was the only way to land a glider anyhow! Airbreaks as we know'em, are a luxury :-) Respect!

[kurtlimejello]

Gosh, thanks! This was a fun exercise. Moreover, it *really* gave me an appreciation for how critical the spoilers are for landing a glider. Even with the slip, it took a *lot* of runway.

[angeldel02]

I've never heard of a divebrake failure, but i also wouldn't slip a glider that close to the ground, he or she is asking for a ground loop.

[kurtlimejello]

Anything can fail--dive brakes have been known to freeze shut. Pulling out of the slip isn't difficult. And risking the ground loop may be far better than overrunning the runway.

[aaron8862006]

Great crab. too bad you can't hear the wind rushing noise as the glider passes... Sound qual is too poor.

[ribefo]

"omg whats he doing?" ... He's landing a glider dear, what do you think he's doing?

[diggyj]

yea next time dont slip to close to the ground. I did that and almost flipped over!

[tngoatee]

Fantastic slip, and with sailplanes you have to get it right the first time! No go- arounds! LOL

[kingarjun93]

lol good he didn't have to do a go around but it wa sa pretty good cross wind landing and even better without dive breakes

[keefer1234]

Looked ok to me!

[Webcz]

well done man

[evangelionbh]

im assuming that by the way u landed....the crosswind was coming from your right?

[evangelionbh]

bloody excellent. well done!

[JJayPL]

I wish I could show you all how we practice this in Poland using Puchacz glider :)

[pasoplaya]

are u a pilot plz answer back as soon as posible

[JJayPL]

yes I am a pilot. Why are you asking?

[Antilopax]

lol ""OMG WHATS HE DOING"..made my laugh" made me laugh :)

[atreewithnolife]

yeah crack up nobs ay?!

[joeslifeyork]

"OMG WHATS HE DOING".. made my laugh. Its great when none flying people are shocked by SOPs in the GA world.

[orobian]

awesome!!!