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  • So basicly do your fastest aeiral and point in the opposite direction?

  • That is why you spike :D

  • i tend to momentum cancel way more than di in general

  • + Respect, i've been playing the Smash Bros Series for about 10 years and just recently started looking up techniques after playing Brawl online. I had no clue that Smash Bros had so much more to it than meets the eye.

  • Ok now to thrash your brothers ass.

  • Fukken like'd. Super smash is a good game and this did just show me what it is. Watching compared to reading on a wiki is different.

  • Sooo what if I use the Wiimote? Can I not SDI?

  • Great Video, but some of the info is wrong. when you MC you have to jump towads the stage when you use ur arieal

  • Nubs

  • "Now for the most important form of DI.... Momentum Canceling" lmao

  • Hey buddys i have a dout here

    The smashes are too fast, like frames of hit, i can't DI out of them!

  • @juiey2 That's the hard part. You have to have fast reaction time. However, when you are at a very high percentage, more smash attacks will come out at you- that's when it's predictable. I don't think it's very important to DI when you are at a low percentage- I mean you can try. In my opinion, using any type of DI is important when you are at a high percentage or when you are being high by an attack that has multiple hits.. such as Pit's Angel Ring (hya ya ya ya!).

  • When you get hit by Pit's Angel Ring, do you try to DI away from it, DI toward Pit, or DI up?

  • @TimeLegacy DI away, that's what I do when someone wants dittos with me.

  • the most important kind of DI? Hold R before you get hit.

  • I´m so confused right now... :s

    I really want to learn this tecniq (dont mind my spelling) but its to confusing, I mean like you should smash and tilt the control stick after being hit and everything. I cant seem to understand.

  • I don't know if you're going to check this, because I remember you saying you don't like to check the comments for this anymore, but on the off chance you should see this, just know that an old friend misses you and wanted to say hello.

  • hey thanks really helpful :) but I mostly just use momentum cancel and it works just fine

  • I cant survive luigis taunt!

  • is DI pronounced Die? haha :)

  • @eric10glitcher10 it's pronouncec

    D , I

  • @sasuke9824 What if you say it really fast :3

  • @eric10glitcher10 well then... ummm uhhh then uhh ... damn you're right lol

  • Does it matter if you DI left or right? (Basic DI Hit up - left/right Hit side - up left/right)

    Or is it situational?

  • This is all easier for me with the GC, With the GC I can fast fall WHILE using momentum cancelling. Is that better?

  • When you say up left do you mean diagonally left or pressing up then left?

  • @LordAlucard013 if you are diing diagonally he probablys means holding it an an angle up and left, do not however go up then left. Your simply hitting it in a diagonal direction like angling falcos forward tilt.

    QCDI does require spinning the control stick( in a quarter circle) while getting hit however.

    if you have any questions let me know

  • I've been momentum cancelling, DIing, and fast falling without even realizing it XD

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  • can you SDI and TDI with the nunchuck?

  • @robbyfooey You shouldn't play brawl with the nunchuck o.O

  • Amazing video!

  • what happens if... you wana smash DI but, you use a the wii controler with nunchuck

  • @Kirbybboy If you wanna play competitive you should buy a GC controller or at least a classic controller...

  • @TeitiTT would it be weird to say that do own both a classic and A game cube controller BUT i play better with the wii remote and nunchuck? xD.... Guess i should start using Gc again

  • @Kirbybboy If you really play better with the wii remote + nunchuk then just play it, level up your gameplay and try to play frequently with someone. I suggested the GC controller because it has the c-stick that is useful in many techniques (including DI).

  • ¿Could you be so kind as to tell me how to do that, IN SPANISH?, please.

  • Do you have to use DI when you are hit, or can you also use it directly after being hit.

    I have a reflex to hit the L or R button after being hit. Is that fast enough (except that you need to use Momentum Canceling instead of L- or R pressing)?

  • @OrkTv Well, L or R when hit or launched actually screws up your DI quite a bit. For every frame you're air dodging, you're not DI'ng. Try not to press L or R at all when launched at high percentages. Instead, TDI and SDI while you're being hit/launched then do your best aerial (rule of thumb is back air or up air for most characters) and fast fall, just like the video says. :) But L/R more or less ruin your DI quite a bit. It's a bad habit.

  • No amount of DI will save you from falcon punch or knee of justice. You have been warned

  • Wow, u dodge luigi's spike thats afreakingmazing

  • with marth press b and  control sick then press down and his move changes

  • this is pointless

  • with TDI, will it not work if tap jump is turned off?

  • I'll assume Lucarios faster aerial is F-air..

  • at 2:26, do u still have to press L/R to tech or it just does it by itself while DI'ing?

  • @xG4MER

    you have to tech when you SDI into the wall

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  • I have a question about this.

    So when you're hit far. I know you push the Control Stick in Up/Down or Left/Right Position and hold it there, but do you do the same for the Cstick?

    because when I get hit, I hold the control stick and repeatedly hit the Cstick. So I'm asking, you do you hold BOTH sticks or just the control one and keep hitting the Cstick?

  • OMFG

  • Lol sonic

    "YOU'RE TOO SLOOOOW~!"

    "CMON STEP IT UP!"

  • Yeah, a tipped fsmash from Marth at 180% is not even close to survivable.

  • From what I've tested, fast-falling when doing horizontal momentum cancelling does nothing. For most characters, doing their quickest aerial (including airdodges) and then jumping toward the stage is their best option. The only purpose of the aerial is to allow you to jump sooner than normal.

  • so smash di you just hold the c stick in the direction you wanna go?

  • @HGClark Ya. :)

  • when i try to di i always die in the direction that i di lol

  • @HGClark Maybe the problem is with your reaction time. If you don't have the reaction time to DI as you are hit or if you DI in the wrong direction (like to the left instead of up and to the left), your DI will be much less successful. This is the problem that I have lol. I don't know what your exact problem is, I'm just tryin' to help. :)

    And also (this is pretty obvious) if your damage is too high, you just get launched too fast to survive lol.

    Hope I helped! =D

  • @TheShark967 well im holding straight up when i get hit to the side so thats the problem i think

  • @HGClark Ok lol that's what I'm trying to do now (straight up) because I have this thing where I keep holding left or right and it's really hard to fix it. Yeah, hitting a little bit more diagonally should be more effective, and make sure you do it as you are getting hit, not after you are hit and are flying towards the boundaries. And sometimes doing a midair jump helps to cancel even more momentum and get you going back towards the stage to continue fighting. Good luck with your DI. ;D

  • @HGClark Oh yeah and also make sure you fast fall that's important, too. ;)

  • Great video (: Do you think you could make one for melee? Or do all the same concepts apply besides momentum cancelling?

  • hey I cant see at 2:53 because that box is in the way

  • Good stuff, Arkivezero. Do you still play this game? Also, woot at Wichita, cuz that's where I'm from!

  • I´m a Link main : ) so thank you arkivezero

    and good explanation, keep up the good job guys ; )

    Long live to Zelda! (& SSBB)

  • DI out of Marth's final smash? :D?

  • So, what is Lucas's fastest aerial move, because he has a lot of fast moves.

  • Are the CPUs DI-ing so well because you do it and they copy you or w/e, or because Level nines are always that good?

    Great vid btw, thanks.

  • @isaacmb1 Is training mode he put the CPU as "Control" when you put a CPU to "Control" you need to plug in another control to Control the CPU -Training mode only-

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  • nothing against you , but i think this is something that everybody needs to knwo when he plays brawl

  • Can you DI [UP] while you have tap jump disabled, or do you need Tap Jump enabled. If disabled, can you substitute Jump (X/Y) for up Control Stick?

  • I main Link, but when you mean fastest aerial attack do you mean the one that starts out fast or the the attack that ends the fastest?

  • @SaladAsian the one that ends fastest, so for us it would be b-air ;o

  • @xx0Rain0xx Okay much obliged. :D

  • @SaladAsian Starts out fast. For example, MKs fastest ariel would be...fuck...

  • @awsomecrossing Up air, WHICH COMES ON THE FRAME 2!!!! I get the joke, too.

  • really helpful video. thx

  • Hmmm... I've been using Shield and + (direction) and they always get me to 150 -200. Just a thought. I never considered aerials :P

  • Just to clear things up...

    Momentum canceling was not in Melee, nor SSB64.

    In response to the description, Z canceling is/was not interchangeable with L canceling. The "L" is short for LAG, NOT THE BUTTON YOU PRESS. Therefore there is no R-canceling either.

    This is not a bug. This is merely exploiting the physics system set in place for this game. Getting back to the stage is most certainly not a bug.

    Any direction you hold while airborne, is considered DI.

  • wait till my cousin sees me doing this

  • wow, I didn't know that it's best to momentum cancel with your fastest aerial. What would be the best aerial to momentum cancel with wolf, olimar, and meta knight?

  • So wait lets say I was link and marth hit me up, would I tap the analog stick left/right then let go and do an aerial?

  • Very informative, this should help me out a lot

  • what a pussy bug

  • So can you use your UAir to momentum cancel or will that send you higher? Pikachu's uair is his fastest so I'm wondering if I should use that to MC.

  • I lol'd at the end.

  • Does "TAP" mean move the control stick as if u were performing a smash attack?

  • Damn nice guide. I only use momentum though

  • is momentum cancel in melee too?

  • WHat I Can do with the Zelda Up Smash ? ? ? SDI UP AND TDI UP ? ?

  • DI marth's tipped f-smash and.. Wow

  • this wasnt a tipped fsmash, link can only live from marth's tipped fsmash at like 110 or something, i dont remember the exact %

  • I know that, I'm asking you to do it. .-.

  • ur too slow

    c' mon step it up

  • Wow

  • so???...point is?...

  • Tiers R4 Queers Charcter abilty has nothing to do with winning matches it all depends on the player

  • So if I'm DK vs. D3, DK's attribute of being infinitable has no influence on the matchup whatsoever right?

    Skill is the biggest factor, but characters do make a tiny difference.

  • Do you notice that TDI(Tap Directional Influecne) is the same as TDI(Total Drama Island)?

  • SAUR, SAUR, SAUR, SAUR, IVY???

    lol NICE VIDEO AND THANKS! IT WAS PRESENTED VERY WELL!

  • GOD BLESS YOU!!!

  • useful !

  • Arkivezero, I have a question that I'm hoping you could answer. In order to perform DI, do you have to do it right when you're hit, or can you do it around two seconds after you're hit?

  • as you're hit

  • the link in the decrption wont work due to terms of violation -__-

  • Absolutely wonderful description during the video. It easily comprehendable. (You wouldn't believe the idiocy of some people who tried to describe DI to me in the past!)

    Bravo!

  • The link to show that air dodges does nothing to your momentum is gone just to let you know.

    Btw, good video, gonna use this.

  • isn't it better to DI=> do your aerial =>fastfall AND after that jump to take as much momentum as possible away?

  • i realize you asked this a month ago but anyways..

    if you jump or perform a special after you fastfall, you gain all your vertical momentum you lost (from the fastfall) back. that is to say, you character flies upward for some freakish reason.

    there's a video.... somewhere.... the point is don't do it :)

  • Haha cool, the Wichita Smash Crew was your inspiration? :P Ah...I love Kansas. :P Sweet video, I need to master these. XD

  • yea they were the ones that said i should make a video so then it'd be easier to understand lol

  • Wow, I'm surprised I didn't know this stuff before. This could definitely help me. But how exactly is Smash DI performed? I understand DI and TDI.

  • SDI and TDI are the exact same thing. the real term is SDI and not TDI. i used the terms TDI and SDI to help new players realize you can use both sticks to smash DI out of moves.

    to SDI, repeatedly flick the control stick and/or cstick in the direction you want to go during hit lag.

  • Don't you immediately jump after momentum cancelling instead of fast falling to further cancel your momentum?

  • when i did that at 190% against marth's fsmash i died every time.

  • nah, jumping works for when you are going to die off the side in some situations and of course depending on the character in some ways.

  • Useful vid

  • my brawl code any one wants to play me

    3309 2108 4926

  • who do u main? I might play u if I know ur main.

  • Very helpful! I already did a lot of this stuff instinctively from playing so much, but I didn't know how to put it into words. Awesome video! ^_^

  • great video! 5*

  • Really really well done. Thanks for posting this!

  • can I get out of moves like MK's fair with Snake? doing both DIs?

  • no shit

  • When you di, do you tap the control stick or just hold it lightly, like a tilt?

  • this was really helpful. i had read forums and instructions on how to DI but never really got it down. seeing this was truly useful. and word for Link mains. it was tight to see dark link do all this cuz now i know exactly what it should look like.

  • so you're supposed to use tdi as soon as u've been hit or right before you've been hit

  • AIR DODGES DO NOTHING TO YOUR MOMENTUM

    mierda no supe eso por mas de un año, y parece verdad

  • I usually use my down "A" (It's the fastest with most characters). Then fast fall, like they said in the vedio.

  • I have a question now that you quit brawl regarding zelda. is it actually possible to TDI out fo her u-smash, if so how?

  • i'll never tell!

  • lol worth a try XD

  • great i have slow fingers which means ill never DI perfectly -________-

  • when u say perform ur "FASTEST aerial" to do the movement cancel, do u mean do your fastest aerial attack or do an aerial as fast as possible? and i just noticed TDI = tap directional influence / total drama island lol

  • To smash Di do you repeatedly smash on the c stick?

  • It doesn't have to be th C-stick, you can use either stick.

    Smash DI on the control stick is not called Tap DI - the maker of this video simples uses the term to make it clear which stick he uses for Smash DI.

  • Ok thnx ^_^

  • does this works if you use the wii rimot and nuchuk and when you have disabelt up is jumping with the nunchuk

  • normal DI works, momentum canceling doesnt

    you're handicapping yourself if you use anything other than the gamecube controller

  • Or classic controller

  • This vedio helped so much, i usually live till my late 180's

  • so so u tap the control stick AND c stickk in the direction u want to go? so a snake hits me on FD to the right, so i tap Cstick and Controll stick to the left n i live?

  • hahahha 8bit LOL!!!! ^^ :) fav* and thanks for the vid

  • yeah, thanks great vid!

    I never really understood the difference of DI and SDI. you are really good ^^

  • Where can I see which aerial is fastest for each character?

  • the super smash bros. brawl disk

  • on the game O.o

  • 2:22 isn't really DI.. just a wall tech.....right?

  • i SDIed into the wall and teched

  • Hey does having Tap jump set to off affect DI control?

  • no 10char

  • I really want to know which way I have to DI to get out certain moves but I can find a list on smashboards, is there one?

  • The AiB Link boards are working on one. For now, you'll have to just experiment by yourself during matches.

  • omg it all makes complete sense now. I really didn't know much about DI. I did realize momentum canceling, which was obvious. But I had been losing to many people because I would die early and they would magically survive. No more. Thanks for the guide it was very helpful.

  • Thank you for this.

  • ...Those tags...I C wat u did thar...

    Nice video though. I'll definately use this since my DI needs fine tuning.

  • hey man!! you roooock...

    i really like link, can you make more combo vids? and do you know about a good zero suit samus player or vids i would like to learn her combos, or maybe you can upload a vid...

    im glad to know that there are a lot of link fans and not faggy toon shit link players lol...

  • :( im good with both

  • dang i know it sorta know.. its hardd to do though, cuz if u don't do it on time, there is no dl.. but yeah, i know the side ones, the up ones are a bit harder.. thanks. to arkivezero and sasook

  • ok so once i hit, i hold up on the c-stick and towards the stage on the analong stick,, got it,, but right after that quickly, do i do mk's fastest aerial (up a) using the c-stick or using the analog stick up and the green button a,, one of the last doubts i have..

  • right before you get hit, hold up left/right on the control stick then press up on the cstick and down on the analog stick almost at the same time, then return the analog stick back to holding toward the stage

  • Awesome, I'll have to check it out! I've only ever momentum canceled. It sure looks like it can save your butt sometimes though. Nice tutorial.

  • i DI on accident i play as cf and live FOREVER

  • I gotta start practicing!

  • ok i have a really big question, lets just say the marth fsmash for example...,, so im meta, right. and marth smashes me to the right,, what do i do first, do i tap the control stick (the yellow stick) up really fast and hold left then really fast do down b because thats his fastest move.. or whats like the process step by step..

  • When you see Marth in his windup, immediately start holding up and towards the stage. DI is about prediction. Once you've been hit, spam MK's uair (his fastest aerial) to cancel your momentum, and while you're doing that, fast fall.

    Down b could be pretty risky since it sends into a free fall animation, but I dunno, I'm not a MK main.

  • its hard for me to work that in cuz right wen i get hit i air dodge its second nature to me so thats y

  • Thanks man I understand the basics now.

  • ok cool thanks ill try them out

  • Yes, I do owe you. I saw this a while back and it helped me tremendously. I'll buy you a cake when I win my first major tourney (no jokez lol)

  • great pointers thanks ill practice them, and the fastest areial is the back smash?

  • the fastest aerial is the one that has the quickest start up and least cool down. in link's case its his bair

  • I apologise if this is a noob question, but I'm in the process of trying to get really good at Brawl and i just wanna confirm what is in the video :P

    If I get hit by say marth's forward smash to the right of the stage, I would push up left on the control stick to do a TDI?

    and, if in the same situation, for a momentum cancel, I would use my fastest air move, and hold down(I use lucas, what is his fastest air move is, i think its his forward a) to prevent me from dying at 100% damage?

  • if you get hit by marth's fsmash and you hold up left that would be normal DI

    you can only SDI (TDI is the same thing as SDI, i just used this term to make it easier for newer people to differentiate between stick inputs) during hit lag, which only happens when you're immediately hit.

    when in the air you then do your forward air and fast fall it. you don't hold down because once you tap down to fast fall you want to return the cstick back to DI'ing torward the stage

  • well, unfortunately, I use the Wii-mote/nunchuk to play, I personally find it better than the GC controller(even though i know there are many glitches and otherwise retarded and unfair things that be taken advantage of with the GC controller lol) so i dont have a c stick to get back to the stage with, so would i just hold the control stick to get back to the stage?

    (and thanks btw, this is kinda helping me, even if it is hard to describe and use in an actual fight until i get used to it :P