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  • I saw some ba gua elbow knives made by Dr. Painter that were stunning.

  • I thought I recognized those woods!

  • But it does look like your attackers are not all coming in at once, and certainly not with the intention to kill... and I say this with all due respect. There is, it seems to me, a huge difference between a bunch of students attacking a sifu, and three gang members who have experience in street fighting and are also looking to seriously maim you or kill you. So, how well would this work in that kind of situation? Is this realistic as modern self-defense against, say, three or four gang members?

  • @brunilda: Great point and good commentary.

  • I notice you are always moving and never stop to focus on any one opponet even when there is a lapse in the attackers attacking you your are still in motion, like a spinning fan blade on wheels. I have seen others do bagua as a linear art on a staight line when sparring and it does not look like bagua at all, but turns into kick boxing. I THINK ALL BAGUA PEOPLE SHOULD FOLLOW THIS EXAMPLE, WELL DONE.

  • @alopda1 I was taught that Baguazhang was designed to deal with multiple opponents. If you stop you become much more vulnerable. Thank You for the comments.

  • that look pretty cool,

  • Dear Sir,

    Yes, constant moving is the key to dealing with multiple opponents in any Bagua system Cheng, Ting-hua (spectacles Ching) During the Boxer Rebellion in Beijing killed many invading soldiers armed with guns before he was shot to death. Cheng was using two elbow knives and moved in and around the opponents slashing and stabbing. He was shot when he leapt up to a wall to escape when the group became too large.

    Thanks

    John Painter

  • @thegompa During the Boxer Rebellion, it was US Marines that attacked. I say that because I am a US Marine myself and they teach us the history of the Marine Corps. Anyway, that is very interesting how Cheng killed alot of our Marines using that fighting technique. I enjoy watching your videos, and honestly am very impressed with your skill in this art.

  • @LtRic0 You can see some of this in the film 55 Days at Peking with Charleston Heston as commander of a Marine Division. There were also other countries as allies to the US there as well. I am not sure if they were Marines or from one of the allied powers that Cheng attacked. Thanks for your comments

    John P. Painter

  • Constant movement seems to be the key to using this art. Iam sure chang ting hau use it this way to defeat the multiple opponents that shot him to death.

  • Thank you for the comments. This was the only clip I could find. There is a much better one I am searching for it and if found will change it out. The thing was unrehearsed just going at it to see how the flow of nine posts teaches us.

    John Painter

  • WOW! That was amazing. I so wish the quality of video was better. Thanks for posting this!

  • awesome training

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