the gaLAGsy Song (Galaxy Song parody).flv

[TAMPADOC64]

No one disputes that CO2 is a GHG, what is disputed and what has not been proven and what all the historical data points against is that CO2 causes warming. EVERY incident throughout history has demonstrated that CO2 has occurred as a RESULT or affect of warming, not a cause. And in FACT cooling was occurring in virtually every case while CO2 was spiked.

Republican fears? Are you kidding? It's you nut bags scaring everyone with you AGW HOAX and claims that the world will end.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

You've just admitted CO2 is a GHG, ("No one disputes that CO2 is a GHG").

You then add "...all the historical data points against is that CO2 causes warming."

This is the type of contradiction I'd expect from someone who gets his info from WattsUpWithThat.

IF you accept CO2 has heat-trapping abilities (WHICH YOU DO) you cannot then say there is no proof that CO2 causes warming. WTF????????????????????????

Game, set, and match.

[Nightversionn]

Good job.

[TAMPADOC64]

Hmm, well it's certain that the maker of this moronic video wasn't a climatologist! If the increase in CO2 that occurs durring the lag keeps heat in: then why did temperatures continue to fall EVERY time throughout history as CO2 peaked?

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

?

Now look at the vid again and work the ocean sequence in reverse.

As the Earth moves away from the Sun the temps begin to fall but the major percentage of the CO2 wont be gobbled up until we hit another ice age.

Think of a kitchen with no windows open. The pan of boiling water will cool far quicker than the steam it leaves behind is removed.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez Your little analogy makes no sense at all. Steam is the removal of heat!

Historical data shows cooling occurred DURING the increase of CO2 and continued to decrease after it peaked. It did not lead to an ice age. Your ramblings make no sense at all.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

Interesting!

Now take your expertise to the local physics dept at Tampa Uni and explain it to them. I'm sure they won't laugh till you've left the building.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez You really are quite obtuse. You mean my friends at USF?

Are you still so oblivious as to not recognize anything other then the city in my moniker?

They will be laughing when I leave; after I tell them of you!

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

USF?

What are you, the janitor?

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez Nope! But I figured yourcognative skills would fail you.

Janitor huh? Is that what you are? Very impressive! I didn't think you that bright.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

No, but still i know big words like obliquity, precession, and eccentricity. Perhaps you need to present them to the physicists at USF. 

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez I am a physicist you idiot!

Too bad you can only parrot what your AGW gods tell you.

Obliquity, precession and eccentricity. If it was coming from a person of reasonable intellect we might have something to talk about. But from you I suspect it's sexual positions with animals.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

Physicist?

hahahahahahahahahahahaahaahaha­ahahahaaa

ahahahahahahaahahaahahahaahaha­haahahaa

BTW Funding.  And your point is what?

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez I had the same reaction to the notion that you an intelligent being.

I figured that peanut brain of yours couldn't connect the dots.

So big oil is funding the fraud, and the media has created a charade that they are against the fraud so that morons do catch on that it's all a scam, and idiots like you that have no understanding of science buy into it the fraud.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

And I suppose Rupert Murdoch's media empire is the only one with the 'intelligence' to see through this great socialist NWO charade?

Hmmm! Did they get their intelligence from college or from the hired hacks out spying on the relatives of dead war heroes?

Think about it.

Oh the joys of the English language.

Knock if you can't go.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez Actually there are many publications that have reported it throughout the world. Unfortunately morons here in the US don't explore news other then they are programmed to. Obviously that is why you didn't know that. Of course you copied a like off a web page that had the very evidence that you were attempting to denounce right below; you however were to brainwashed, stupid to notice or just dishonest to admit it.

BTW, you're yammering nonsense again. Focus! Take your meds!

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

FACTS!!!

1 Global warming is REAL. Proof: No atmosphere, no blanket, NO IDIOT TAMPON.

2. CO2 is a GHG which helps accelerate the effect of water vapour - another GHG.

3. CO2 is on the increase.

4. Anthropogenic induced CO2 is NEW CO2. IOW adding to the CO2 already in circulation.

5 Sinks are DECREASING. 11 million hectares deforestation per year. Oceans becoming more ACIDIC.

So IDIOT please explain how, when you've thrown away the antivenin, you'll survive the poison?

[ludwigkirchner08]

@TheElasticJesusRez

"Global warming is REAL"

BAHAHAHAHA. Good one. When you get out of prison, you'll notice the past 7 years doesn't fit with your "sky is falling" mantra. And some of us remember your same BS in 70's with your Ice Age doom. You Rockefeller sheep are unbelievably obtuse. What you really mean is Global warming AND Global cooling are REAL. And yes, we've known this shit since we crawled out of the swamp, moron. You can get back to your XBOX now, little boy.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@ludwigkirchner08

Hmm!

Are you the same Ludwig that used to fly around with a propeller stuck out of your nut.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64

More proof of AGW, fuckhead:

Arrhenius, S.A. 1896. "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air upon the Temperature of the Ground." Philosophical Magazine 41, 237-276.

Bakun, A. 1990. "Coastal Ocean Upwelling." Science 247, 198-201.

Balling, R.C. et al. 1998. "Analysis of winter and summer warming rates in gridded temperature time series." Climate Research 9, 175-181.

Broecker, W.S. 1975. "Are We on the Brink of a Pronounced Global Warming?" Science 189, 460-463.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 Callendar, G.S. 1938. "The Artificial Production of Carbon Dioxide and Its Influence on Climate." Quart. J. Roy. Meteorol. Soc. 64, 223-240.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64

More proof of AGW

Comiso, J.C. 2003. "Warming Trends in the Arctic from Clear Sky Satellite Observations." Journal of Climate 16, 3498-3510.

Crowley, T.J. 2000. "Causes of Climate Change over the Past 1000 Years." Science 289, 270-277.

Crozier, L. 2003. "Winter warming facilitates range expansion: cold tolerance of the butterfly Atalopedes campestris." Oecologia 125, 648-656.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64

More proof of AGW

Dai, A., K.E. Trenberth, and T.R. Karl 1999. "Effects of Clouds, Soil Moisture, Precipitation, and Water Vapor on Diurnal Temperature Range." Journal of Climate 12, 2451-2473.

Dessler, A.E. and S. Wong 2009. "Estimates of the Water Vapor Climate Feedback during El Niño–Southern Oscillation." Journal of Climate 22, 6404-6412.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64

More proof of AGW

Doran, P.T., J.C. Priscut, W.B. Lyons, J.E. Walsh, A.G. Fountain, D.M. McKnight, D.L. Moorhead, R.A. Virginia, D.H. Wall, G.D. Clow, C.S. Fritsen, C.P. McKay, and A.P. Parsons 2002.

"Antarctic climate cooling and terrestrial ecosystem response." Letter. Nature 415, 517-520.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64

More proof of AGW

Evans, W.F.J., and E. Puckrin 2006. "Measurements of the Radiative Surface Forcing of Climate." 18th Conference on Climate Variability and Change, P1.7

de F. Forster, P.M., and K.P. Shine 1999. "Stratospheric water vapour changes as a possible contributor to observed stratospheric cooling." Geophysical Research Letters 26, 3309–3312.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64

More proof of AGW

Farrera1, I., S.P. Harrison, I.C. Prentice, G. Ramstein, J. Guiot, P.J. Bartlein, R. Bonnefille, M. Bush, W. Cramer, U. von Grafenstein, K. Holmgren, H. Hooghiemstra, G. Hope,

D. Jolly, S.-E. Lauritzen, Y. Ono, S. Pinot, M. Stute and G. Yu 1999. "Tropical climates at the Last Glacial Maximum: a new synthesis of terrestrial palaeoclimate data. I.

Vegetation, lake-levels and geochemistry." Climate Dynamics 15, 823-856.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64

More proof of AGW

Fu, Q., C.M. Johanson, S.G. Warren and D.J. Seidel 2004. "Contribution of stratospheric cooling to satellite-inferred tropospheric temperature trends." Letter. Nature 429, 55-58.

Fu, Q., C.M. Johanson, J.M. Wallace, and T. Reichler 2006. "Enhanced Mid-Latitude Tropospheric Warming in Satellite Measurements." Science 312, 1179.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64

Fyfe, J.C., G.J. Boer, and G.M. Flato 1999. "The Arctic and Antarctic oscillations and their projected changes under global warming." Geophysical Research Letters 26, 1601–1604.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64

More proof of AGW

Gettelman, A. and Q. Fu 2008. "Observed and Simulated Upper-Tropospheric Water Vapor Feedback." Journal of Climate 21, 3282-3289.

Goes, J.I., P.G. Thoppil, B. do R. Gomes, and J.T. Fasullo 2005. "Warming of the Eurasian Landmass Is Making the Arabian Sea More Productive." Science 308, 545-547.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64

More proof of AGW

Hansen, J. A. Lacis, R. Ruedy, and M. Sato 1992. "Potential Climate Impact of Mount Pinatubo Eruption." Geophysical Research Letters 19, 215-218.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Hansen, J., Mki. Sato, R. Ruedy, A. Lacis, K. Asamoah, S. Borenstein, E. Brown, B. Cairns, G. Caliri, M. Campbell,

B. Curran, S. de Castro, L. Druyan, M. Fox, C. Johnson, J. Lerner, M.P. McCormick, R.L. Miller, P. Minnis,

A. Morrison, L. Pandolfo, I. Ramberran, F. Zaucker, M. Robinson, P. Russell, K. Shah, P. Stone, I. Tegen,

L. Thomason, J. Wilder, and H. Wilson 1996. "A Pinatubo climate modeling investigation."

[mphello]

@mphello In The Mount Pinatubo Eruption: Effects on the Atmosphere and Climate, NATO ASI Series Vol. I 42.

G. Fiocco, D. Fua, and G. Visconti, Eds. Springer-Verlag, pp. 233-272.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64

More proof of AGW

Holland, M.M. and C.M. Bitz 2003. "Polar Amplification of Climate Change in Coupled Models." Climate Dynamics 21, 221-232.

Hu, Y. and Q. Fu 2007. "Observed poleward expansion of the Hadley circulation since 1979." Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics 7, 5229–5236.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Kushner, P.J., I.M. Held, and T.L. Delworth 2001. "Southern Hemisphere Atmospheric Circulation Response to Global Warming." Journal of Climate 14, 2238–2249.

Langematz, U., M. Kunze, K. Krüger, K. Labitzke, and G.L. Roff 2003. "Thermal and dynamical changes of the stratosphere since 1979 and their link to ozone and CO2 changes."

Journal of Geophysical Research 108, 4027.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Lau, K.-M., C.-H. Ho, and M.-D. Chou 1996. "Water vapor and cloud feedback over the tropical oceans: Can we use ENSO as a surrogate for climate change?" Geophysical Research Letters 23, 2971–2974.

Lean, J.L. and D.H. Rind 2008. "How natural and anthropogenic influences alter global and regional surface temperatures: 1889 to 2006." Geophysical Research Letters 35, L18701.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Lubin, D. 1994. "The Role of the Tropical Super Greenhouse Effect in Heating the Ocean Surface." Science 265, 224-227.

Manabe, S. and R.T. Wetherald 1967. "Thermal Equilibrium of the Atmosphere with a Given Distribution of Relative Humidity."

Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences 24, 241-259.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64

More proof of AGW

Mann, M.E., Z. Zhang, M.K. Hughes, R.S. Bradley, S.K. Miller, S. Rutherford, and F. Ni 2008.

"Proxy-based reconstructions of hemispheric and global surface temperature variations over the past two millennia."

Proceedings of the National Academies of Science 105, 13252-13257.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

McGregor, H.V., M. Dima, H.W. Fischer, and S. Mulitza 2007. "Rapid 20th-Century Increase in Coastal Upwelling off Northwest Africa." Science 315, 637-639.

Melanda, M.Y., Jansen, E., and H. Elderfield 2005. "Constraints on SST estimates for the northern North Atlantic/Nordic Seas during the LGM."

Quaternary Science Reviews 24, Pages 835-852.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Mears, Carl A. and Wentz, Frank J. 2005. "The Effect of Diurnal Correction on Satellite-Derived Lower Tropospheric Temperature." Science 309, 1548-1551.

Minschwaner, K., and A.E. Dessler, 2004. "Water vapor feedback in the tropical upper troposphere: Model results and observations." Journal of Climate 17, 1272–1282.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Philipona, R., B. Dürr, C. Marty, A. Ohmura, and M. Wild 2004.

"Radiative Forcing--Measured at Earth's Surface--Corroborate the Increasing Greenhouse Effect." Geophys. Res. Lett. 31, L03202

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Plass, G.N. 1956. "Effect of Carbon Dioxide Variations on Climate." American Journal of Physics 24, 376-387.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Polyakov, I.V., G.V. Alekseev, R.V. Bekryaev, U. Bhatt, R.L. Colony, M.A. Johnson, V.P. Karklin, A.P. Makshtas, D. Walsh,

and A.V. Yulin 2001. "Observationally based assessment of polar amplification of global warming."

Geophysical Research Letters 29, 1878.

Quan, X., H.F. Diaz, and M.P. Hoerling 2002. Changes of The Hadley Circulation Since 1950.

The conference on the Hadley circulation: Present, Past and Future, 12–15 November, 2002, Honolulu, HI.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Ramaswamy, V., M.D. Schwarzkopf and W.J. Randel 1996. "Fingerprint of ozone depletion in the spatial and temporal pattern of recent lower-stratospheric cooling." Letter. Nature 382, 616-618.

Ramaswamy, V., M.D. Schwarzkopf, W.J. Randel, B.D. Santer, B.J. Soden, G.L. Stenchikov 2006. "Anthropogenic and Natural Influences in the Evolution of Lower Stratospheric Cooling." Science 311, 1138-1141.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Rind, D., and D. Peteet, 1985. "Terrestrial conditions at the last glacial maximum and CLIMAP sea-surface temperature estimates: Are they consistent?" Quaternary Research 24, 1-22.

Rind, D., R. Goldberg, and R. Ruedy. 1989. "Change in climate variability in the 21st century." Climatic Change 14, 5-37.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Santer, B.D., T.M.L. Wigley, G.A. Meehl, M.F. Wehner, C. Mears, M. Schabel, F.J. Wentz, C. Ammann, J. Arblaster, T. Bettge, W.M. Washington, K.E. Taylor, J.S. Boyle, W. Brüggemann and C. Doutriaux 2003.

"Influence of Satellite Data Uncertainties on the Detection of Externally Forced Climate Change." Science 300, 1280-1284.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Santer, B.D., M.F. Wehner, T.M.L. Wigley, R. Sausen, G.A. Meehl, K.E. Taylor, C. Ammann, J. Arblaster, W.M. Washington, J.S. Boyle, and W. Brüggemann 2003.

"Contributions of Anthropogenic and Natural Forcing to Recent Tropopause Height Changes." Science 301, 480-483.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Santer, B.D., T.M.L. Wigley, C. Mears, F.J. Wentz, S.A. Klein, D.J. Seidel,

K.E. Taylor, P.W. Thorne, M.F. Wehner, P.J. Glecker, J.S. Boyle, W.D. Collins,

K.W. Dixon, C. Doutriaux, M. Free, Q. Fu, J.E. Hansen, G.S. Jones, R. Ruedy, T.R. Karl, J.R. Lanzante, G.A. Meehl, V. Ramaswamy, G. Russell and G.A. Schmidt 2005.

"Amplification of Surface Temperature Trends and Variability in the Tropical Atmosphere." Science 309, 1551-1556.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Sawyer, J.S. 1972. "Man-made carbon dioxide and the 'greenhouse' effect." Nature 239, 23-26.

Seidel, D.J. and W.J. Randel 2006. "Variability and trends in the global tropopause estimated from radiosonde data."

Journal of Geophysical Research 111, D21101

[TAMPADOC64]

@mphello WOW! You mean another millionaire researcher released another study that just happens to support his pre-ordained conclusion, assuring him more grants and funding to add to his fortune?

I never expected that!

What I really find ironic is that any research/reports that contradict such claims don't get published in things like Nature.

Isn't that funny?

[TAMPADOC64]

@mphello Perhaps you can show me which of these studies aren't dependent on huge grants by organizations that support AGW?

.

No huh?

.

I didn't think so.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

Spam any more of Mphello's honestly researched evidence of AGW and I'll make sure your TUBE vacation is ended yesterday, you disingenuous hateful lying RIGHT-WING brainwashed toerag.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez Go self fornicate you nut bag!

You noticed I trust that he couldn't do what I asked?

It's because they're all getting paid to lie, all but you idiots!!

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

Yep. And you keep researching your physics in the USF toilet, Dr Tampon.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez If it keeps me away from lying scum like yourself, it would be well worth it!

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

I don't lie. I state the scientific truth. Whereas you...you can't operate without Uncle Sam GOP determining your every move.

Keep taking the tablets. One day you might find your way out of the Trueman Show but I very much doubt it.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez OK, two words you don't know the meaning of and shouldn't use! Fact and truth!

Pleas self fornicate with exceptional vigor until your expire!

Have a great expiration!

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

Global Warming is happening. If it wasn't you wouldn't be here to tell the tale.  Now, if you were a physicist you'd understand what I just said...

And since you dont understand...

Work it out Cowboy.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez I understand you're a nutbag!

If AGW was real, why would so many top scientist be saying it's not real. Why is it that the only scientist saying it's real are the ones being paid to say it? Why have climatologist been caught doctoring data, lying, blocking peer review, and trying to discredit other scientist?

Why is Big Oil spending so much money to back this if they are really against it?

Why aren't you asking these questions?

Work it out Cowgirl!

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

Name the climatologists who say it's not real THEN name all the climatologists who are on this supposed 'payroll.'

Show me the data that has been doctored and THEN...

I want to know who is paying them to say it, why, AND THEN I'll catch the next flight to USF and you and I will work out how we will present this evidence to Congress.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez How about Dr.Richard Lindzen? He was on the original IPCC panel and resigned because he KNEW it was wrong. Of course I could list tens of thousands of scientist that disagree with the AGW Fraud, but you already know that.

IPCC used contaminated temperature data that had been collated and stored at the CRU. They ignored data from Argo Network of over 3000 worldwide ocean buoys that shows ocean cooling (not warming).

BTW, most of Congress doesn't believe in AGW, obviously!

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

Then list them. I'm all ears.

FTR. Lindzen's resignation was welcome since his findings were found to be flawed by his fellows.

As 4 Argo. Basically you're saying Pielke (another stooge on the Exxon payroll who gets his kicks on Watts 66) knows more than Hanson, Willis, Schmidt et al.

Funny then, that general academia favours the latters' understanding of ARGO readings

THE wHORe are mainly GOP idiots who prefer Gods to fact. Period.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez You mean all the AGW CULTIST claimed his finding flawed! Isn't that what they say about anyone that opposes the cult?

By General academia, you mean "By AGW Cult Members"

You really should refrain from using words you don't know the meaning of like "Fact".

You want some REAL scientists that oppose this fraud?

I'll give you a few lists, and then you can attempt to discredit the tens of thousands of scientist on these lists.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

"I'll give you a few lists, and then you can attempt to discredit the tens of thousands of scientist on these lists."

Stop talking about it and do it, Elmer Fudd.

I'm waiting.

YAWN!

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez Let's see you discredit ALL of these scientist!

The Heidelberg Appeal (4000 signatures 62 Nobel prizewinners), The Oregon Petition (31,000 accredited scientists), The Manhattan Declaration (600 climatologists), The Petition to the United Nations (100 geoscientists), Petition to the Canadian PM (60 climate experts), The Leipzig Declaration (100 geoscientists), The Statement from Atmospheric Scientists (50), Petition to the German Chancellor (200 German scientists),

Cont.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez Statement from the American Physical Society (150 physical scientists), Petition to President Obama (100 leading climate researchers), UN Climate Scientists speak out on Global Warming (700, many previously involved with the IPCC). All are critical of the notion of man-made global warming, and all of them (with signatures and accreditations) are accessible via Google.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

physicsfrontline(.)aps(.)org/t­ag/global-warming/

"The Council of the American Physical Society has overwhelmingly rejected a proposal to replace the Society’s 2007 Statement on Climate Change with a version that raised doubts about global warming."

NOW, THAT 'IS' A STATEMENT FROM THE AMERICAN PHYSICAL SOCIETY.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

OBAMA.

NAME the 100. You offered them up, you name them.

700. Name them. ,,,,,,,

As for Google. You wanna prove a point. You do the digging.

The name's HUNT NOT CUNT.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez Of course you won't look them up, because then you have to discredit them and since you can't, that proves that there really isn't a consensus but rather it's a pile of crap just like everything that comes from the AGW Cult.

Go ahead, discredit all of these scientists or admit there is no consensus!

I still think Cowgirl fits you best, but if you want to be called Emlmer Fudd, I'll oblige you!

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

Look below. I offered a link which discredits the link you couldn't be bothered to post.

I do not need to look up any of your silly links because I know global warming is real because I understand the science and the slippery slope that the fossil fuel guzzling human race is on.

Enjoy the hurricanes and tornadoes. They will increase in size, number and intensity. And fortunately for me, you live at sea level. Happy fishing.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez "Enjoy the hurricanes and tornadoes"

Hmm, the foremost hurricane expert in the world says that's a crock and so is AGW: Dr.William Gray as well as 75% of the American Meteorological Assoc. say it's a crock

sea level? Nils Axel-Morner the foremost expert in the world on Sea level says there is no rise! Says it's a fraud!

Next!

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

Nils Morner said - "The world’s true experts on sea level are to be found at the INQUA (International Union for Quaternary Reseach) commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution (of which I am a former president), not at the IPCC.

INQUA said -

Climate change is real

There is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and...

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

2.

...indirectly, from increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes in many physical and biological systems. It is very likely that most of the observed increase in global temperatures since the mid-twentieth century is due to human-induced increases in greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere (IPCC 2007).

...continued...

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

3.

Current president of the INQUA commission on Coastal and Marine Processes, Professor Roland Gehrels of the University of Plymouth, says his view do not represent 99% of its members, and the organisation has previously stated that it is "distressed" that Mörner continues to falsely "represent himself in his former capacity."

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64 4. Nils Morner and his association with EXXON and Heartland. (OH! There's a coincidence). Heartland Institute Source: Heartland 2010 Climate Conference Speaker List Cooler Heads Coalition Source: Cooler Heads Coalition website 5/04 International Climate Science Coalition Source: ICSC list of who's who All right-wing libertarian think tanks set up by Exxon and other fossil fuel industries to discredit the science. NEXT NEXT NEXT NEXT NEXT and NEXT.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez So you're saying anyone that is funded by the fossil fuel industry should not be take seriously? That Big Oil is the real fraud?

I never thought of that!

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

Only those whose bank balances rise proportionately to the lies they tell about global warming.

IDIOT!

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez Oh, so since the CRU's founding contributors were British Petroleum and Royal Dutch Shell then by your own logic they are telling HUGE lies about Global Warming!

And since they claim it’s real, that means it's a lie (by your own words). So that means AGW is a total lie.

Thanks for clearing that up!

Oh and anyone that doesn't believe that BP and Shell were founding contributors; Google CRU History and look at the founding contributors under acknowledgements at the bottom.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

1. Okay. Let's start off with a comment by sceptic bananabender

"BP and Shell established the CRU in 1971. They still fund it – along with other major oil & gas producers and the nuclear industry The only logical reason for doing this was to provide a scientific justification for shutting down the coal industry. Shutting down coal means far more natural gas is sold."

Possibly true since Thatcher in the 80s used muppets like Monckton for excuses to destroy UK mining.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

3.

BP and Shell also made sure that CRU was stacked with mediocre activist scientists. Why would they do this? A highly reputable university such as Oxford or Harvard would have demanded far more rigorous checks and balances and a far higher degree of independence from the cash source. Mediocre scientists are far more malleable because they don’t have a choice of alternative jobs."

Oops.  Mediocre 'scientists' that were about to rock the iron foundations of big oil. LOL.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

4

"The outcome was predictable. If you get a bunch of third rate researchers and ply them with enough money will get the results you want.

Appointing oil company director Rajendra Pachauri to head the IPCC was extra insurance."

But that's the point you numbnut. THEY DIDN'T GET THE RESULT THEY WANTED b/c IF BANANABENDER IS RIGHT, THE GAME BACKFIRED.

By the 80s and 90s scientists were under increasing pressure (b/c of economic implications) to state the TRUTH...

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez You're correct in everything except they DID get the results they wanted! It has worked out wonderfully for Shell and BP! This is the best thing that ever happened to them.

Look at this logically.

Here you have two of the largest oil companies in the world that share the same problem; they both own almost none of the land they drill, most of their drilling is lease and most of it is off shore.

This means their oil cost them more then other companies.

Cont.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez By creating the AGW fraud they accomplished many things. First of all by increasing price through taxes and regulation it cuts the supply which in turn increase the price. In simple (your) terms: the yget more money for less work.

Second, the new regulations are strangling smaller companies thus eliminating competition (which also means they get the leases from those smaller companies).

The other thing they started but cailed was the carbon credit exchange.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

Ask yourself, what good is a multi-trillion dollar industry WITHOUT a planet to run its industry on? CRU saw that. Royal Society saw that. NASA and NOAA saw that, even if the disingenuous 'economic strategists' at Big Fossil Fuel Inc couldn't.

FF know the game is up. They know only too well that AGW is happening. But they're stalling for time. Going with the flow, playing both sides at once, hoping some genius will come up with a solution before the shit hits the fan.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez So why is the UN so interested in this fraud? The UN wants to control the world. The ability to take wealth from one country and redistribute it to another country levels the playing field of power with them on top. Of course your mind numbed Socialist Liberals that believe in one world government would like nothing better then this to succeed and bring the US to it's knees and make them pay for their evil success. Make the whole world equal (except for the UN and the rich).

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

In summary your point is meaningless.

Toodle pip!

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez So if AGW really was real; why are so many scientists that have nothing to gain against this? Why has a trillion dollars been pumped into perpetrating this fraud? Why has the AGW cult lied, cheated, destroyed data, manipulated data, blocked peer review, attacked any opposition, used scare tactics with CRAZY predictions that constantly prove false: I mean why is this so obviously wrong if its suppose to be right?

Putting aside the facts (which add up to fraud) its like a con.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez In summary, you keep refuse to look at the reality you see. Its like the crack whore waking up bloodied and beaten, living in sqaller, dying of AIDS, teeth falling out from poor diet; and saying she doesn't have a drug problem.

I have a feeling like the crack whore, you'll die believing what the AGW Cults has programmed you with. A scared shell of a person worrying about the end of the world that will never come.

I would pity you, but I have no pity for stupidity.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

LOL! And then came the rub. Poor old US. The world out to get them. Victimised for its own success.

For your information the most profitable trading block on this planet is STILL wish-washy liberalised Europe.

Who needs Chevrolet when u can have Porsche? Who needs Kellogs when you can have Nestle? Who needs...lol

You wingnuts lead such sad boring existences that u need to make new enemies everyday just to fill the vacuum. Get over it. You're wrong. AGW is real.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez Really? The EU whose currency is about to crash? The union that is on the verge of failing? Where half the countries are on the verge of bankruptcy? Sure!

Have you ever been right about anything?

Don't answer that, we all know the answer!

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

Yup. And still not in as much debt as the biggest DEBTING NATION ON THE PLANET.

Remind us again, ye with the jingoistic blinkers. How many TRILLION is the US in debt?

"Have you ever been right about anything?" Alas not when my adversary is RIGHT about EVERYTHING.

Try again sunny Jim.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez Yes, you're right, the US has a huge debt, not as bad proportionately as the EU, but it's huge! And who ran that up? The wacko leftist/socialist/progressive idiots; the same ones that believe in AGW and want to put us in even more debt.

"not when my adversary is RIGHT about EVERYTHING"

Thanks for the acknowledgment but I'm only right about ALMOST EVERYTHING.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

"not as bad proportionately as the EU..."

Oh boy...you have a way to twist everything around to your imaginary advantage, don't you Jim Crow?

Let's face it. you know fuck all about science...about climatology...and while this absurd twisted absolutist right-wing bullshit keeps swilling around your one remaining brain cell there'll never be no hope for you.

BTW.  The crash happened on Dubya's watch. Remember?

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticButtPlug Funny how you AGW Cultist always resort to gutterspeak when you lose a debate. If you have nothing intelligent to bring to the discussion, perhaps you should go join the other mindless drones in OWS.

BTW; I'm sure you're incapable of dealing with facts, however the crash was cause by the housing bubble, which was caused by sub-prime loans, which was cause by regulatory enforcement created by Clinton on the Community Reinvestment Act which was created by Carter. Remember?

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

Emotive politicised b/s that is driven by opinion not fact.

FDIC Chairman Sheila Bair disputes that the CRA was a problem "Let me ask you: where in the CRA does it say: make loans to people who can't afford to repay? No-where! And the fact is, the lending practices that are causing problems today were driven by a desire for market share and revenue growth ... pure and simple."

Opinion is not fact and truth is not a democracy.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez In 1994 the Clinton Admin made changes to CRA regs. First changing how the CRA rating was calculated, second they made it easy for groups to make complaints against banks for perceived under-performance. While under investigation for underperformance banks were prohibited for mergers, acquisitions etc..

Further the Clinton admin encouraged community groups to go after banks to force them to stay well above compliance.

Cont.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez Also the Clinton admin started policies of rewarding CRA compliance by not forcing banks to comply with other regulations such as the requirement to install ATMs in rural districts and such.

In essents they trained the banks to give subprime loans by punishing them for not giving plenty and rewarding them for giving lots of them.

These changes cause a 25%per year increase in subproime loans from 1994 until 2003. Almost 2,000,000 such loans were taken out in this span.

cont

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez The result of all the addition purchases drove the market and home prices shot up. Further fueling this was the fact that few sub-prime loans failed because the prices of homes had risen so much they could resell at a profit rather then default, then turn around and buy another home with the profits.

The increase in prices forced legitimate buyers to pay much higher prices and forced them into risky loans to secure a home purchase.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez In 2008 sharp increase in oil prices left low income home owners 2 choices, pay for gas, or pay the mortgage: they paid for gas. As the debt mounted and the banks began foreclosure, many of the subprime mortgage holders simply abandoned the homes and moved into public housing. This suddenly flooded the market with a million homes and started the first wave of price crashes.

Facts? Those are FACTS! You posted someone's opinion.

As I've said you don't know what a fact is!

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha­haahahahah!

Thanks for that! So the squeaky clean oil industry with super-inflated oil prices set the ball rolling.

OPINION?

Yes, in response to your OWN opinion you braindead idiot.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez "squeaky clean oil industry"

The same oil industry that funded the fraud called Anthropogenic Global Warming currently supported by the naive and gullible in society.

At least you were smart enough to realize that the FACTS proved you wrong and that it was better to change the subject then expose yourself an even bigger fool (if that's possible)then you've already demonstrated.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

So now the oil industry has found a way to avoid paying carbon taxes (it's called having more political clout than California) it means they're in bed with Al Gore?

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Boy, you're funny.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez It is funny! It's funny that you know so little about what is really happening. You just do what you're told like a good little lemming!

The oil industry, particularly BP and Shell were financers of the Carbon exchange! And actually started the ball rolling on Carbon Credits.

You're such a dolt! Every time you open your mouth you look more ignorant you look.

3w. herinst. org/sbeder/enveconomics/liabil­ity. html

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

You need to read more Le Carre, Ludlum, and less David Icke.

Of course the oil industry does such things. It's called foresight, "intelligence."

It's about making sure the many pension schemes across the planet that are beholden to it, remain so.

Better to be in the middle controlling things than on the outside. Comprende?

But to foolishly assume this is 'guilt by association' ?

What next: Roswell? 9/11 inside job?

You need to stay out of that Florida sun.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez "It's called foresight" Yes, foresight! they ahd the "foresight" to fund Global Warming before it was a fake crisis. They had the "foresight" to fund Carbon exchange before it was a solution.

Yeah, I suppose just because they are always funding things befoer everyone else, and because you AGW Cultist always claim they are the enemy when in reality they are the people paying for all of it.

Florida sun? It was 27 degrees outside this morning; must be GlowBull Warming!

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

Fake crisis? LOL. You mean like 'fake' physicist?

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez I've noticed you love to change the subject. I'm sure you don't want to explain why the Oil Industry were lead financiers of all of this yet you and your cult claim that they are against it. Why is that? Why can't you explain that logically?

I guess for the same reason you can't explain why your AGW gods falsify and destroy data, block peer review, blackball any scientist that disagrees with them, and is almost always wrong with their predictions(which they then destroy).

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

I'm not changing the subject at all, I'm merely stating that should this great Hoax of yours truly exist it would implicate every scientist who discovered that the properties of CO2 do indeed cause global warming. Therefore - by your warped logic - the aforementioned scientists are guilty and this scam had its roots in the nineteenth century.

Were Abe Lincoln and Kaiser Bill also in on it.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez You are only demonstrating your ignorance of science and physics. It is clearly a fact that the quantity of CO2 in the atmosphere is totally incapable of driving the climate in the manner the AGW Cult is suggesting. If you actually studied their claims instead of regurgitating the propaganda, you would understand that they are claiming that CO2 causes amplification; a theory that has never been demonstrated throughout history and actually contradicts historical records.

Cont

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez According to their models this amplification would increase the water vapor in the atmosphere which would drive the warming. Again, this has never happened in all of climate history. The only place it has ever happened is in the AGW Cult's models. Furthermore, all the evidence of the last 15 years have proven that it is not occurring which is why we're hearing AGW Cult members slowly changing their tune. Perhaps if you understood science we could discuss this intelligently.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

"...this has never happened in all of climate history."

More heat, more water vapour. More water vapour more CO2 is released from ocean. More CO2 released from ocean, more heat, more water vapour. It's called a 'positive feedback loop.'

As for history: look at the video above - obliquity, precession and eccentricity. I think you'll find it has been happening for the past 4.5 billion years.

However, human (NEW) CO2 is interfering/speeding up the 'natural' process.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez As I've stated before, you need remedial reading. You're citing a very crude reference. It's like saying "the Ocean is cold today, therefore it's always cold. If you go back further in time over many hundreds of millions of years, CO2 has been much higher yet temps/water vapor didn't rise. Again, that would demonstrate NO CORALATION. You see in REAL science we use more then one cherry picked data sample to draw a conclusion as opposed to plugging one sample into a model.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

You're not worth the paper your birth certificate is printed on.

In REAL SCIENCE people like Paul Wignall demonstrate that when CO2 rises Earth burns to a crisp as in the Permian extinction event, 250 million years ago.

This extinction event lasted a colossal 80 million years: acid rain killed most mammals, Hydrogen sulphide (stagnant ocean) mopped up the rest, and methane clathrates finished the job by turning Earth into a fireball.

NO CORRELATION? And Wignall can spell.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez Thanks for again reinforcing your lack of knowledge of science. I hail you "Goddess of the Propaganda Queens"

If you actually STUDIED the Permian Extinction then you'd know that there were volcanoes erupting for a million years dumping billions of tons of sulfur, soot, chlorine and fluorine into the atmosphere. Gee, do you think the CO2 was more of an influence then all the rest of the pollutants?

Wow; are you a tool!

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

And you would know that Sulphur soot (as opposed to sulphur dioxide) binds to water droplets and has the opposite effect to global warming and in FACT causes GLOBAL DIMMING. Look up Mount Pinatubo, 91, and how the Earth's temp dropped for two years.

CO2, however, (as on Venus) HAS HEAT TRAPPING abilities and slows down the rate which IR escapes into space.

Siberian Traps = lots of CO2.

I hail you unable to cite truth for fear of losing your place in the Redneck Club.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez I'll bet you have difficulties finding the forest with all of those trees in the way. The point I was making was that the environment was seriously altered for tens thousands of years. Only an extremely poor scientist with an agenda or a mindless lemming would use ONE example as an axiom. Bravo nit wit!

And again I request you discontinue use of words exceeding your level of comprehension such as truth! You lack the knowledge of that word nearly as much as the word "fact".

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

No, I can quote an endless precession of warm and cold periods that b/c of PRECESSION and OBLIQUITY have caused the CO2 level to rise and fall.

When CO2 levels are HIGH the Earth is WARM due to the fact that WARM OCEAN doesn't retain CO2 as well as COLD OCEAN.

Conversely, when CO2 levels are LOW the Earth is COLD due to the fact that COLD OCEAN DOES retain CO2. Hence CO2 trapped in glaciers and ice.

Watch the video and learn.

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez Wow, you said it correct! You're no longer a liar! "I can quote an endless precession of warm and cold periods that b/c of PRECESSION and OBLIQUITY have caused the CO2 level to rise and fall"

You're correct, warming causes CO2 to rise, not the other way around. I'm glad you finally embraced reality

Study science and learn!

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

True: warming does cause CO2 to rise, AND rising CO2 causes warming.

This has been proved time and again by scientists from Arrhenius, Fourier, Tyndal to Harris, Griggs, Chen etc AND Roy Spencer who doesn't dispute the properties of CO2.

Truth is not a democracy, nor does it pander to Republican fears, misguided sentiment, and Fox News.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

You are just a TROLL who gets his kicks spouting bollocks. Now do us all a favour and find a new hobby.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

Carbon dioxide is real. Increasing carbon dioxide is real. Diminishing carbon sinks is real. Increasing temperature is real.

Facts that are true irrespective of the right-wing spin you put on them.

Sigh...

[TAMPADOC64]

@TheElasticJesusRez CO2 is real, and we all die without it. CO2 in its current density as it would relate to contributing to global warming would be like putting on a fishnet in a blizzard. BTW, temps are decreasing; even many of you AGW Cult/gods have admitted that. Perhaps you should keep up with reality and stay off the pure propaganda Cult worshiping lunatic sites.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

"CO2 is real, and we all die without it. CO2 in its current density as it would relate to contributing to global warming would be like putting on a fishnet in a blizzard...blah blah...

Send your expert findings to NASA and NOAA. Argue your point (THAT IS 'YOUR' POINT (not Anthony Exxon Watts) with a few professors and doctorates.

And when they've laughed at you, dismissed you as the politicised idiot that you are, come back here so I can laugh some more.

))))))))))ed

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@TAMPADOC64

2."In creating the CRU it is obvious that Shell and BP deliberately chose the worst university in Britain. The University of East Anglia was newly created, cash-strapped and haven for left wing activists."

Ad Hominem. Left wing activists fill every corner of academia. Ten years later their rich daddys persuade them to become Tory MPs. So what?

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Sexton, D.M.H. 2001. "The effect of stratospheric ozone depletion on the phase of the Antarctic Oscillation." Geophysical Research Letters 28, 3697–3700.

Sherwood, S.C., J.R. Lanzante and C.L. Meyer 2005. "Radiosonde Daytime Biases and Late-20th Century Warming." Science 309, 1556-1559.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64

More proof of AGW

Soden, B.J. 2000. "The Sensitivity of the Tropical Hydrological Cycle to ENSO." Journal of Climate 13, 538-549.

Soden, B.J., R.T. Wetherald, G.L. Stenchikov, and A. Robock 2002. "Global Cooling After the Eruption of Mount Pinatubo: A Test of Climate Feedback by Water Vapor." Science 296, 727-730.

Soden, B.J., D.L. Jackson, V. Ramaswamy, M.D. Schwarzkopf, and X. Huang, 2005. "The radiative signature of upper tropospheric moistening." Science 310, 841–844.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64

More proof of AGW

Thompson, D.W.J. and S. Solomon 2002. "Interpretation of Recent Southern Hemisphere Climate Change." Science 296, 895-899.

Thompson, D.W.J. and S. Solomon 2005. "Recent Stratospheric Climate Trends as Evidenced in Radiosonde Data: Global Structure and Tropospheric Linkages." Journal of Climate 18, 4785-4795.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64

Thuburn, J. and G.C. Craig 1997. "GCM Tests of Theories for the Height of the Tropopause." Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences 54, 869-882.

Trenberth, K.E. and D.P. Stepaniak 2003. "Seamless poleward atmospheric energy transports and implications for the Hadley circulation." Journal of Climate 16, 3706-3722.

Turner, J., J.E. Overland, and J.E. Walsh 2007. "An Arctic and antarctic perspective on recent climate change." Internat. Journal of Climate 27, 277-293.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Vonder Haar, T. 1986. "Surface Radiation Budget Observations and Analysis."

Position Paper in Report of the Workshop on Surface Radiation Budget for Climate Applications.

World Climate Research Programme. WCP-115, WMO/TD, No. 109, 144 pp.

[mphello]

@TAMPADOC64 More proof of AGW

Yin, J.H. 2005. "A Consistent Poleward Shift of the Storm Tracks in Simulations of 21st Century Climate." Geophysical Research Letters, submitted.

[MarkGubbish]

When are you going to make one with you Clara slapping leather with me and me expelling carbon credits from my anus, and your other accounts like Yourkids, Bernzeppi, Substanti8 etc operating a enema with Al Gore's face on it, and then my colon blown carbon credits being shoveled into a bunch of Wall St banker pockets. You may use my picture of my gorgeous self, plus as much of my muscular physique as you can handle. You know I am equipped.

[cristop5]

That is brilliant! Favorited.

[TheElasticJesusRez]

@cristop5

Cheers!

I did put it at the end of "It's 'the Sun Stupid Part 2' but since the hits have been modest I decided it deserved a place all of its own.

[wstevenschneider]

Classic through and through.