@SNAREDOOD6969 yeah no one will ever replicate the sound rennick gets...loud doesn't necessarily mean good, these guys have really good dynamic control
To me, the extraordinary aspect of martial arts lies in its simplicity. The easy way is also the right way, and martial arts is nothing at all special; the closer to the true way of martial arts, the less wastage of expression there is. -Bruce Lee
I disagree that the section parts aren't difficult. I mean, playing 3 5lets over a measure of 4/4 is just a little straining. Or where there is a 4let over 3 8th notes in the drum break. If you have your awareness of time so spot on that you can just sight read that stuff, then I could be proved wrong... not trying to start an argument or anything, but there is something to be said for the amount of downbeat awareness coming from each of these dudes :)
what no one seems to get about paul rennick's writing, is that while the section's part's aren't impossibly hard, they ARE incredibly difficult to bring together in the ensemble...if you notice, he never incorporates just one section into anything, he utilizes the whole ensemble.
I don't normally bash videos on YouTube, but the sticks-in at 1:12 was probably the girliest sticks-in I've ever seen. The other 99% of the video is awesome, but man... talk about a buzzkill.
@the1oreo Phantom has the best dynamic shaping of any line out there. If you ask me, playing a perfectly clean decrescendo roll is harder for a line than playing a clean flam five with simple dynamics.
being a snare drummer myself....um.....how are you clean, when your feet aren't even close to being in time...the last 3 snares on the right phase like crazy...suck!!!!
The fundemental level across the line is phenominal. Notice every single person has the the exact same techinque and style. Paul Rennick will go down as one of the greatest instructors in history.
@swisscheesedlo There are "tools" who play all kinds of notes, and there are tools who play "musically." Doing one or the other doesn't guarantee greatness. If things were that simple, there would be a quick and easy formula for creating a great drumline. But there isn't. You have to play demanding shit. You have to play it well. You have to stage it right, so that people NOTICE it. And above all, your line has to have the "X" factor, which isn't a real teachable thing, in my observation.
@swisscheesedlo Here's the deal though, this book was EASY. One of the easiest in World Class, and they didnt win because of their line they won because of their pit, I've talked to the judge personally and he basically said that he was impressed this year most with Blue Devils because they put a rediculous demand on the line. Whether or not they won, you have to respect a line that plays a hard book
@brueck4 everyone is always impressed by demand. It's clarity and achieving that demand though that makes you win. It's very tough to give credit to demand when you can't hear it clearly. At this level clarity wins end of story.
@swisscheesedlo Musicality is the arranger's problem, the people in the line's problem is playing clean. They can't control how the music is arranged. Obviously, Phantom solved that problem in 2010.
@swisscheesedlo Pretty sick of PR fans using this argument. You people know that a notey book can still be musical, right? It's not like when you make the decision to play a "musical" drum book you're required to reduce your demand down to 99% eighth-note check pattern bull shit. People need to quit throwing around the term "musical" as a defense for having high school level demand.
@swisscheesedlo Tom Aungst writes very demanding and musical books. His lines have deserved every title they've won. I'd feel a bit more accomplished for winning with a challenging book that took all season to clean rather than a book that was clean the first time we sight-read it.
@theflamfounder Not every passage in a book has to be the most difficult, sweet lick in the world. Sometimes the the music calls for eighth notes. Also, there are things that make books difficult like metric modulation, dynamics, and spacial orientation. you don't have to flam every damn note to make it a good book. You Cadet fanboys are ridiculous. If you get off on paradiddlididdles and a book of two heights, then the Cadets are great.
@cosmodrum1 Yeah, I agree. Metric modulation and spacial orientation can make a book difficult. Too bad 99% of this book is just straight eighth note check.
@freud113 it's about fast and clean, not slow and thick. Today's tempos and marching demand are much more difficult than standing around in an arc flamming away like decades ago. If the goal is to play clean, why even flam at all?
@freud113 Re-watch the vid. These guys are all over the rhythmic spectrum (as in there isn't just paradiddles and fat rolls). Also, rolls is spelled with two L's and no E. These guys are throwing down.
@TurdFergusonWF That doesn't surprise me at all...he worked with our drumline briefly at PASIC (almost 20 years ago...I'm getting old!) and he was very personable...he's a good guy!
@TenorBoy2011 I think Phantom deserves it in my opinion. They are playing the hardest rhythmic beats that i think bluecoats can never match. I am only stating my opinion, two very different styles, but it all comes down to who is clean, and i think phantom is cleaner this year.
hey paul rennick from 2007 called and said that you were infringing on the copy right of the battery music to Suggestion. haha seriously this book has a lot of 2007 stuff but i'm not complaining. it's still a great book and has it's own individuality.
@Gazeboism well they were at a hault at 1:00 so he probably forgot to not open his legs or thats what they actually do in the drill so he did it because he's used to it
Ryan, do you comment on every youtube video that pertains to drumlines in drum corps?? lol I swear I've seen you on SO many of these recently uploaded videos commenting away. haha
I love Rennick's tuning and book so so much. I also like the convo the two guys have at the beginning of this...
DrummingWin 2 months ago
@SNAREDOOD6969 yeah no one will ever replicate the sound rennick gets...loud doesn't necessarily mean good, these guys have really good dynamic control
mrpainless45 3 months ago
They won best percussion. Shut up.
scorch0012 3 months ago
Blue Coats walking lie beast in the back ground
omartor8 5 months ago 2
damn! swagger of a virgin's dick
dchooper12 6 months ago
1:46 ish out of step :( come on Phantom
SomeGuyDrumming 7 months ago
I am a BD fan, but I gotta say, this battery is KILLING. Also, it also shows that Dynasty drums don't sound bad at all.
TheDrummingAsian 7 months ago
holy! Thats super clean for early season, and just clean over all
BabySteve47 8 months ago
I liked it better when they were playing on a wood plank...
iggymochuk 8 months ago
the roll at 1:12 = so tasteful
Cameroon993 9 months ago
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zsavonb 9 months ago
hey are they using the double snares. PLEASE REPLY
blake111297 9 months ago
BLOOOO!
MybearDrums 10 months ago 2
@MybearDrums wrong corp............
schecter96 10 months ago
@schecter96 he was talking about Coats marching by like 2 min. in
masterdrummer19 9 months ago
To me, the extraordinary aspect of martial arts lies in its simplicity. The easy way is also the right way, and martial arts is nothing at all special; the closer to the true way of martial arts, the less wastage of expression there is. -Bruce Lee
ProChopsVideo 11 months ago
So bottom line, if your dissing Phantom Regiment, you're a fagget. Period
slitherzpin 11 months ago 2
I disagree that the section parts aren't difficult. I mean, playing 3 5lets over a measure of 4/4 is just a little straining. Or where there is a 4let over 3 8th notes in the drum break. If you have your awareness of time so spot on that you can just sight read that stuff, then I could be proved wrong... not trying to start an argument or anything, but there is something to be said for the amount of downbeat awareness coming from each of these dudes :)
joschneider1 11 months ago
what no one seems to get about paul rennick's writing, is that while the section's part's aren't impossibly hard, they ARE incredibly difficult to bring together in the ensemble...if you notice, he never incorporates just one section into anything, he utilizes the whole ensemble.
mrpainless45 1 year ago
Nice. :]
jrdfreckles11 1 year ago
i cant believe paul is working with SCV now :(
ELECTROrestrrial2013 1 year ago
damn paul is beating the hell out of those sticks. lol
TheDragonmaster18 1 year ago
Hey. I see flams, just saying.
doublebassheeltoe 1 year ago
@2:05
BD haha
DEMAcracy 1 year ago
@DEMAcracy It's actually the Bluecoats. lol
tommy2122108 1 year ago 2
@tommy2122108
hahaha oh yeah lol. my bad
DEMAcracy 1 year ago
It would be more expressive ; tonality and musicly; if there were bigger differences in dynamics
johnnyjtuber 1 year ago
Anyone else bothered by center snares pinkies? :/
Otherwise, pretty damn amazing. Those quads sound fucking sexy.
drumboy1313 1 year ago
I wonder how coats' drumline felt when they walked by during that piss clean snare break.
CWsnare 1 year ago
@CWsnare probly good know Drew Guy has their backs
wearefamily12 1 year ago
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CWsnare 1 year ago
I LOVE watching the Blue Coats having to pass by behind the Regiment line. Lord knows, we've all had to do that at some point in corps. LOL
ericdrumz86 1 year ago
I see the Bluecoats movin in
Sarge94187 1 year ago
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3GIstudios 1 year ago
SO CLEAN!!!!!!!!!!!
MrGhfhdhshah 1 year ago
Yes.
avenged7xguitar 1 year ago
btw this doesn't take any chops to play.
TheDiddleFinger 1 year ago
@TheDiddleFinger
and who do you march with?
runtangadom 1 year ago
popcorn is ready.
TheDiddleFinger 1 year ago
i know bluecoats heard that snare break and shivered lol
spursfan4life 1 year ago
I don't normally bash videos on YouTube, but the sticks-in at 1:12 was probably the girliest sticks-in I've ever seen. The other 99% of the video is awesome, but man... talk about a buzzkill.
zharston 1 year ago
@zharston
doing a manly big dick sticks in at that part of the show wouldn't fit, because the front ensemble has a very light and quiet-ish run right there.
i think it fits just fine the way it is
runtangadom 1 year ago
Bluecoats and Phantom Regiment in the same place. My dream has come true.
pickleboy01 1 year ago
Such a boring repetitive book...
White0ak 1 year ago
this is only JUNE?
YellowTenor 1 year ago
Wooooo! I'll take balls-clean Phantom over a BD chopfest anyday!
CavaliersForTheWin 1 year ago 3
OH MYGOD i just had a drumgasm
chrisman180 1 year ago
@chrisman180
so did I
GoConnecticut 1 year ago
soo relaxed..at anytime they could go to sleep mid book
jman3ification 1 year ago
haha that is epic i do the stick flash that the snares do at 0:58
KTMlover525 1 year ago
Won drums this year. Totally earned it! Screw you BD go PHANTOM! =D
sonofrageandlove13 1 year ago 15
do see bda 2009 drum coats
BSBINC1 1 year ago
very musical book. clean too....
Samwerd2 1 year ago
@the1oreo Phantom has the best dynamic shaping of any line out there. If you ask me, playing a perfectly clean decrescendo roll is harder for a line than playing a clean flam five with simple dynamics.
neilyvanneily 1 year ago
two of the best lines in one shot. dont get that everyday
Promark25 1 year ago
Was that "I dated my sisters" @ 0:24 o_o
eXhAwST 1 year ago
nice shot of bc in the background at 2:05
themaliced 1 year ago
Phantom may have won drums this year but Bluecoats performed a lot better in my opinion.
zs09zs09zs09 1 year ago
Cleaner than Clorox
Jdogdrums7 1 year ago 2
does anyone think phantom will be easier this year to make since they lost Rennick?
rhssnare 1 year ago
phantom got best drumline this year in the finals. just sayin.
zzzzzushi 1 year ago
its like jazz/funk in drumline format. their hands look like butter. love it.
john3047X 1 year ago
mr second snare from left needs to keep his pinky on his stick. :) they totally deserved high perc this year
jamieman28 1 year ago
this is ridiculously clean for this early..holy crap.
griffinthe 1 year ago
nick taylor, i love u
randomtechdude 1 year ago
If I could march Phantom, I would be SOOOOOO happy.
AlexJ4d 1 year ago
This reminds me of a very mature 2003 Phantom Regiment line.
doublebassheeltoe 1 year ago
PR won...thats all that matters...
dawichrister 1 year ago
being a snare drummer myself....um.....how are you clean, when your feet aren't even close to being in time...the last 3 snares on the right phase like crazy...suck!!!!
JiMnEEzY707 1 year ago
I bet BD shat themselves while walking by!
dafontenot 1 year ago
@dafontenot That wasnt BD. that was bluecoats
jamieman28 1 year ago
they got some weird ass carriers
TWHSglock1 1 year ago
The fundemental level across the line is phenominal. Notice every single person has the the exact same techinque and style. Paul Rennick will go down as one of the greatest instructors in history.
cortra51 1 year ago
fat diddles
chavez4564 1 year ago
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chavez4564 1 year ago
sexy
pyro9029412 1 year ago
SUPER clean; but does anybody play anything more than paradiddle-diddles these days? Where are the flam drags and fat roles? Just wondering.
freud113 1 year ago
@freud113 Probably being played by some line that doesn't win drums. lol
swisscheesedlo 1 year ago 105
@swisscheesedlo Gotcha! ;-/
freud113 1 year ago
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@swisscheesedlo yea cuz devils actually play notes..
the1oreo 1 year ago
@the1oreo I say this respectfully, but any tool can play all kinds of notes. Doesn't mean it's musical at all.
swisscheesedlo 1 year ago 46
@swisscheesedlo There are "tools" who play all kinds of notes, and there are tools who play "musically." Doing one or the other doesn't guarantee greatness. If things were that simple, there would be a quick and easy formula for creating a great drumline. But there isn't. You have to play demanding shit. You have to play it well. You have to stage it right, so that people NOTICE it. And above all, your line has to have the "X" factor, which isn't a real teachable thing, in my observation.
RCRhythm 1 year ago
@swisscheesedlo Paul writes some of the most musical notes in dci!
DrumBum3000 1 year ago
@swisscheesedlo or clean
fsudrew1992 1 year ago
@swisscheesedlo Here's the deal though, this book was EASY. One of the easiest in World Class, and they didnt win because of their line they won because of their pit, I've talked to the judge personally and he basically said that he was impressed this year most with Blue Devils because they put a rediculous demand on the line. Whether or not they won, you have to respect a line that plays a hard book
brueck4 1 year ago
@brueck4 everyone is always impressed by demand. It's clarity and achieving that demand though that makes you win. It's very tough to give credit to demand when you can't hear it clearly. At this level clarity wins end of story.
ajd9512 1 year ago
@swisscheesedlo are you then calling out crown with all their notes? Which means they suck too?
mysteryguy0 1 year ago
@mysteryguy0 No. For instance, in 08 Crown's book wasn't as demanding as BD perhaps, but It was cleaner and they got a better score.
swisscheesedlo 1 year ago
@mysteryguy0 your an idiot. he never called anyone out. ....you did.
schecter96 10 months ago
@swisscheesedlo Musicality is the arranger's problem, the people in the line's problem is playing clean. They can't control how the music is arranged. Obviously, Phantom solved that problem in 2010.
jjmachuca 9 months ago
@swisscheesedlo
WHERE YOU NOT HEARING THE HOT NOTES
AND KILLER VISUALS?
drumcorps0junkie 8 months ago
@drumcorps0junkie visuals don't make anything musical lol
Trapmaker677 7 months ago
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@swisscheesedlo
WHERE YOU NOT HEARING THE HOT NOTES
AND SEEING THE KILLER VISUALS?
drumcorps0junkie 8 months ago
@swisscheesedlo Pretty sick of PR fans using this argument. You people know that a notey book can still be musical, right? It's not like when you make the decision to play a "musical" drum book you're required to reduce your demand down to 99% eighth-note check pattern bull shit. People need to quit throwing around the term "musical" as a defense for having high school level demand.
theflamfounder 6 months ago
@theflamfounder Then why have Paul Rennick and Tom Aungst individually won more drum titles with their writing than Dave Glyde in the last decade?
swisscheesedlo 6 months ago
@swisscheesedlo Tom Aungst writes very demanding and musical books. His lines have deserved every title they've won. I'd feel a bit more accomplished for winning with a challenging book that took all season to clean rather than a book that was clean the first time we sight-read it.
theflamfounder 5 months ago
@theflamfounder Did you really just call this a high school book?
SnareCaptain123Moo 2 months ago
@theflamfounder Not every passage in a book has to be the most difficult, sweet lick in the world. Sometimes the the music calls for eighth notes. Also, there are things that make books difficult like metric modulation, dynamics, and spacial orientation. you don't have to flam every damn note to make it a good book. You Cadet fanboys are ridiculous. If you get off on paradiddlididdles and a book of two heights, then the Cadets are great.
cosmodrum1 1 month ago
@cosmodrum1 Yeah, I agree. Metric modulation and spacial orientation can make a book difficult. Too bad 99% of this book is just straight eighth note check.
theflamfounder 1 month ago
@the1oreo notes are nice, when the line can actually articulate them.
ptowndrummr 1 year ago
@the1oreo too bad they didnt win drums though huh?
meatwad314 1 year ago
@swisscheesedlo Sad but true.
BurntToast355 1 year ago
@freud113 I know what you mean.......maybe cause its easier to control??
mimamalol9 1 year ago
@freud113 it's about fast and clean, not slow and thick. Today's tempos and marching demand are much more difficult than standing around in an arc flamming away like decades ago. If the goal is to play clean, why even flam at all?
MeetTheMattsons 1 year ago
@freud113 in all the 1st place high school lines. lol. personally paradiddle-diddles are harder to clean then flam drags.
thsma2009 1 year ago
@freud113 Blue Devils yo!
CRIPPLESTIX777 1 year ago
@freud113 you need to demonstrate a line can play easy stuff as well as hard.
poopcrapface2000 1 year ago
@freud113 Easy books = less ticks
NumberNile 1 year ago
@freud113 BLUECOATS man! 2009 and 2010 are sick.
amsnare13 1 year ago
@freud113 they're easy to clean
john3047X 1 year ago
@freud113 they're easy to clean if you got good players. And hey, there is some ramming stuff in there.
john3047X 1 year ago
@freud113 Just sayin'... this book is extremely demanding. It's very difficult and is full of notes.
timartin91 11 months ago
@freud113 Re-watch the vid. These guys are all over the rhythmic spectrum (as in there isn't just paradiddles and fat rolls). Also, rolls is spelled with two L's and no E. These guys are throwing down.
ctsbrg 11 months ago
@ctsbrg Thanks for the spelling lesson. You may want to review elementary grammar, as in 'there AREN'T just paradiddles and fat rolls.'
freud113 11 months ago
@freud113 you should start the video at 2:00 and then rethink your comment
fifteen95 10 months ago
@freud113 better clean and easy than hard and dirty.....that didn't come out right.
drksdofthmoon 10 months ago
I got Paul Rennick to sign a pair of my Paul Rennick drumsticks when UNT did a drumline clinic in my town :]
TurdFergusonWF 1 year ago
@TurdFergusonWF That doesn't surprise me at all...he worked with our drumline briefly at PASIC (almost 20 years ago...I'm getting old!) and he was very personable...he's a good guy!
InnerBeatDrumSchool 1 year ago
Phantom is 1st in drums as of quarterfinals!!!!
reimain 1 year ago
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that guys who's legs part at 1:00 is my snare teacher.
Summit145 1 year ago
that guy whos legs part at 1:00 is my snare teacher.
Summit145 1 year ago
wow that is really clean
linnmar86 1 year ago
1 off the end near the tenors looks like 07 PR center snare Joe House
Frickashade 1 year ago
Best part was when the coats walked by >.>
spartey01 1 year ago
Dan Cannon. Rep bro, keep up the good work phantom
DoubleDDrums 1 year ago
PR is second in drums right now =) HELL yea.
AKzosorocker 1 year ago
@AKzosorocker Where are you finding current drum scores?
swisscheesedlo 1 year ago 2
@swisscheesedlo They're actually in first. You can find them at
dci.org/scores/rankings/index.cfm
CincoSnare76 1 year ago
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CincoSnare76 1 year ago
@swisscheesedlo go to dci.org and go to scores and go to rankings. theyre actually first
rreemmzzrruullee 1 year ago
@swisscheesedlo drum corps planet . com
Frickashade 1 year ago
@swisscheesedlo dci.org/scores/rankings/
tenordrummercj 1 year ago
@swisscheesedlo dci.org. On the "scores" tab, then hit rankings, and there's a drop down menu on the next page.
bluestarhopeful 1 year ago
@AKzosorocker first in drums in semi's :)
trptsrule 1 year ago
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@AKzosorocker or you know... first..
chodesickle 1 year ago
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Always been a big fan of the writting and the approach they have.
vodoodragono1 1 year ago
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vodoodragono1 1 year ago
BLuecoats sawga walkin in the back lol
sh0tim3 1 year ago
Hell yeah! sounding that good this early! i'm so pumped to catch em in the lot!
revresbo101 1 year ago
Yeah 0:45
sirtannerthepure 1 year ago
cant wait to see you guys in atl
av8ter1644 1 year ago
@TenorBoy2011 I think Phantom deserves it in my opinion. They are playing the hardest rhythmic beats that i think bluecoats can never match. I am only stating my opinion, two very different styles, but it all comes down to who is clean, and i think phantom is cleaner this year.
doga63 1 year ago
@doga63 Agreed.
SnareFlare07 1 year ago
@TenorBoy2011 Coats are just not the same without Mac, in my opinion.
swisscheesedlo 1 year ago
@TenorBoy2011 as of the last show thats a fallacy.
phantom got a 17.70
bluecoats got a 17.20
spursfan4life 1 year ago
phantom's got it.
joeporter2323 1 year ago
Phantom is so clean!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrOppsmybad 1 year ago
This book is way better than last years book. Phantom book hasn't been the same since 07.
woothatdrums 1 year ago
@woothatdrums sounds the exact same every year..
phobass 1 year ago
@phobass I think don't think so. I didn't like last years book at all. The 08 book was good.
woothatdrums 1 year ago
pretty clean
codrumcaptain16 1 year ago
hey paul rennick from 2007 called and said that you were infringing on the copy right of the battery music to Suggestion. haha seriously this book has a lot of 2007 stuff but i'm not complaining. it's still a great book and has it's own individuality.
Cman272 1 year ago
It looks like the tenors keep their left index finger inbetween the sticks when they snap in. Didn't notice before
Gazeboism 1 year ago
44 - 48 is the sexiest thing ever written period.... My life is now complete.. I will die happy...
cpy777 1 year ago
Is that guy's legs supposed to apart from 1:00 to 1:10
Gazeboism 1 year ago
@Gazeboism probably not, but we won't judge
swisscheesedlo 1 year ago 3
@swisscheesedlo Good call lol
milanisnare 1 year ago
@Gazeboism well they were at a hault at 1:00 so he probably forgot to not open his legs or thats what they actually do in the drill so he did it because he's used to it
IronfistmanDV 1 year ago
you can hear me talking from :17- :30 haha
CFsnare07 1 year ago
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
theprodegy12 1 year ago
:56 - :58 triplets up, then down into 16th note singles is such a Phantom thing these days. It's been in every show for like 5 years lol
kietey14 1 year ago
@kietey14 yea dude thats straight up paul rennick
ilkecoolaidandclnbts 1 year ago
@kietey14 It's a Paul Rennick thing. He always incorporates the different duple/triple combinations.
thegreatfantastic 1 year ago
Yeah. Awesome book.
dynastytn 1 year ago
jeepers thats clean
ilkecoolaidandclnbts 1 year ago 7
@ilkecoolaidandclnbts lol jeepers.
cpy777 1 year ago
flippin love this book.
stubbyt34 1 year ago
Ryan, do you comment on every youtube video that pertains to drumlines in drum corps?? lol I swear I've seen you on SO many of these recently uploaded videos commenting away. haha
SnareFlare07 1 year ago
@SnareFlare07 he should :D I try to also
kietey14 1 year ago
Soooo tasty. Love it.
Heineken87 1 year ago
coats are feeling the pressure hahaha i can see it as they walk by.
spursfan4life 1 year ago 20
@spursfan4life amen brotha
erob2011 1 year ago