SD Vs. SSD: Comparing Solid State Storage Device Types

[UNIXSOLJA]

Whats average ssd goes 1.5 GBps? This is the second time i have seen this guy saying stuff that doesn't make sense.

[AndrewDeLong]

A simple (and cheap) solution would be to get a multi SD card reader, plug in about 4 (true) Class 10 SDXC cards at 32GB a pop, and connect it via a USB 3.0 port (which gets up to 5Gbps) thus you'll have that same 128GB storage, with no bottleneck in the transfer speeds, the same SDXC speeds, and all at a fraction of the cost.

Bing, Bang, Boom. Done.

[AndrewDeLong]

@TizzyT455 The rip off (in my opinion) is buying that cheap SSD at $135. Sorry, but a reliable SSD @ 128GB runs more in the neighborhood of $200 to $300. At $135, you're basically paying for crap. So again, the system I devised is still priced competitively with one SSD, and the data is more transportable to boot.

[TizzyT455]

@AndrewDeLong LOL ok you want to play that game...I gots you,

I only picked out the cheapest one found on newegg but I will recommend one that I have myself.

Its a crucial M4 128GB and its ~$230 (when I got it) and its ~$180 now.

It is from a quality brand and can verify personally that its is a quality SSD,

specs are:

read = 415MB/s,

write = 175MB/s.

So yeah still cheaper and faster, plus I don't know what you mean by transportable as it's a 2.5 drive.

[AndrewDeLong]

@TizzyT455 Transportable, as in I can take the data from the SD cards and plug it into any other computer.

[TizzyT455]

@AndrewDeLong Ok so your somehow thinking an SSD is internal only or something? An SSD only needs an external enclosure and it too will be "transportable" even USB 3.0 if you want, and before you say an external enclosure will make it more expensive then your proposed system let me tell you that one only costs ~$15, and its usb powered so no power brick.

If you think I'm lying go to newegg and look for "MASSCOOL UHB-2233", that will be good enough for the job.

[ninomilobrown]

Didnt understand one single word.

[greysmoke321]

I really appreciate your info and the interesting manner you provide that info in this video.

[TheToddsvlog]

But what about SDHC?

[xxluvkinz89xx]

@TheToddsvlog here watch?v=FVLOJdpliA0

[renkinjutsu01]

1:25

"SSD drive"

:)

[pjob797]

@lockergnome what is the rate or formula you get the write numbers, like dvd's are 8x write and your sd card is 133x how do you calculate that, or is it how many things can write to it at the same time? 

[WebsiteToSell]

This is good information to know. The speed difference is quite amazing.

[mcmamac]

how do you organise your desktop GO.

[v12tommy]

I've had my SSD drive for a little over a year now. Hands down, the best thing since sliced bread.

[mikurej95]

so much background noise -.-

[cal920c]

also about 100 times the size

[legoreviewer360]

I think a lapel microphone might not be a bad investment.

[kakureru]

millions only if you get SLC flash

[vmxrm85]

i can't here you????

[DivineHand125]

i'm get confused when you say these drives have a limited amount of writes. Does that mean that after you've written a certain amount of data to the card/drive you will need to buy a new one if you wish to write again?

[g0rsk13g4n9st4]

@DivineHand125 Everything has a limited amount of writes, including the hard drive inside your computer. Most modern SSDs are designed to last 40-50yrs under normal use - much longer than traditional HDDs, which are designed to last 10yrs or less. SD cards aren't designed to last quite as long as SSDs, but they will generally last 1/10th of what SSDs are rated for (i.e. 5-6 yrs).

[BIGC3002]

@DivineHand125 Yes but he said thousands of writes, which by the time you actually accomplish, there will be bigger and faster cards out there so its not really anything to worry about.

[abdullahnisar54]

Good knowledge

[djkoziiqn]

I swear chris this dude is a great addition to the team !

[robnaj]

What about Sonys SD VS SDs

[korin125]

Very quiet audio and very loud hiss.

[tazolson]

Chris Pirillo just got pwned.

[Firdaush0]

But the writes on a SSD occur much more then a SD card...Correct me if i am wrong but a computer probably writes on the same block on a SSD much more than a SD card.

[sutty6]

@lockergnome can we get brandon a condenser mic? I can tell there is high gain on his videos to level out the volume but there is so much noise and too little vocal volume and quality.

[BlackwaterOpsDotCom]

@sutty6 Battery started to die while I was shooting. Sorry.

[BlackwaterOpsDotCom]

@sutty6 Battery started to die while I was shooting. Sorry.

[Xndingo11]

Ssds don't have 1giga byte per second yet...the new ones are about 500

[chronofusion]

@Xndingo11 actually there are a few that do example is Ocz's Revodrive 3 x2 pci e slot ssd solution. max read they claim is 1.5 gigabytes per second and 1.3 gigabytes per second for the writes. another example is

PhotoFast's new G-Monster-PROMISE PCIe SSD which claims they hit right on the 1 gig per second mark on reads and writes. cheers

[saknk1]

i did used one of those in a Panasonic HD pro camera and after i used 4 times the card just crash , Panasonic Pro card 32gb is $599 that's why i try this one ,

[HalWozHere]

VOLUME!!

[redice1024]

What happens when you use up the writes? Does it just stop working or is there an error message?

[BlackwaterOpsDotCom]

@redice1024 SD cards the files just fail. Compact Flash you get reduced capacity and it writes to somewhere else. SSD's start to warn you, and try writing to other places.

[mantas1111000]

I would play games off of them. But 10 MBps speed comparing to my external USB drive I've currently got, still seems quite good.

My steam is installed on the external drive, and most of the game files are on it as well. Except for Minecraft. But blame Notch for that.

[bloooby]

dude, u have ur AGC on again -.-

[uDaeth]

Can you film anything without having to stand in front of a tv screen?

[averagejoejesse]

What's the data transfer rate of an SD card slot? is it faster than usb?

[JKNProductions1212]

So what should I get? for price?

[hunkashoo]

What is the average speed of a 7200 RPM HDD?

[MrGlynification]

doggy style vs reverse cow girl go !!!!

the volume was a bit low here though. :)

[kazora1001]

sdxc vs sdhc go!!!

[BlackwaterOpsDotCom]

@kazora1001 That was posted when you made this comment :-)

[Spookitalaneese]

This is the ad that my GMAIL displayed above your video upload notification:

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[ZeroC0ol1989]

I got my OCZ Vertex II SSD 120gb for 137 euro about 195 US dollars converted

And it's great!

My i5 3GB ddr3 notebook is now completely functional in 25 seconds including entering my password

[Pa7rikW]

Same "X" as CD-ROM X?

[Thesniped13]

YOU'R AWESOME

[elliottveares]

I thought speed is talked about in Mbps not MBps (speed is in bits not bytes)

[TalesOfWar]

@elliottveares You can do it as both, companies tend to use bits when they want to make things appear faster than they really are (like ISP's).

[jon24c]

your audio is REALLY quiet.

[commodore256]

I miss the microdrive...

[Scottishtechkid98]

WOW This is really quiet 

[RoboticusMusic]

YOU LOOK DIFFERENT

[ZeroC0ol1989]

@RoboticusMusic

He got rich

[RoboticusMusic]

@ZeroC0ol1989 lost his hair too. Must be stressing hard about the the.

[damonhawks]

damn... had to crank the volume...

[masticina]

Sure SD is slower :0 But cameras love it. And why not even if you shoot raw and have allot of big files it usually is quick enough.

[TalesOfWar]

@masticina Cameras use it mostly due to it's size and low cost. You need to get the more expensive higher grade cards for the best performance though, usually coupled with the more expensive pro grade cameras. A lot of higher end cameras also use Compact Flash too because it tends to be more reliable due to error checking and so on, and the newer ones are pretty damn speedy too.

[masticina]

@TalesOfWar

Being that I own a DSLR out of 2009 [mmm those new sensor technology thingies though] yes I use CF. I like it and yes it is quick. Not to mention sturdy well packaged and has LOTSA pins.

[jhbendiksen]

Low volume on sound, dude...

[ClassicGOD]

Actually SSDs are not rated for 'millions' of writes but about 3000 (25nm MLC memory) to 5000 (34nm MLC memory) but because they have advanced controllers on board and use many clever tricks they can last much longer.

[Neojhun]

In the new digital world, people are starting forget the importance of Hardware Size / Mass. The size of a device though in digital age can be irrelevant to performance. Certain case like SD vs SSD still is relevent. Size DOES MATTER.

[ZuesToDrinkJuice1]

Why not get an SSD and an external case?

[twomod77]

I'll take SSD over SD any time but that's just me.

[alejandro4211]

top 10!!!!!!1

[askmuhsin]

i didn't hear the first "SD"...

[n00bcr3w]

At 3:25, i assume you mean 100 times as fast comparing 12mb to 1.2gb, just thought I'd troll and point out a mistake :b

[lockergnome]

@n00bcr3w I did screw up with the numbers I used... But to be fair you can get a 6GB/s SSD and can a class 10 SD is 10Mpbs so that is 600 different. With Rounding to the nearest order of magnitude... ;-) -Brandon / @blackwateropsdotcom

[krauser979]

@lockergnome can you use an sd card to boot?

[BlackwaterOpsDotCom]

@krauser979 If you get the right one, and if your Bios supports it.

[g0rsk13g4n9st4]

@lockergnome I haven't heard of an SSD that is capable of delivering 6GB/s throughput. If you're talking about SATA III interface, that is 6Gbits/s - not the same as 6GB/s. Most SATA III SSDs average 400-500MB/s speeds, with theoretical maximum at around 600MB/s. That's 30-40x speed compared to average C10 SD card speeds.

[BlackwaterOpsDotCom]

@g0rsk13g4n9st4 You can get SSD's that are rated to 180 GigaBytes per second, unfortunately they are only 4 Gigs in Size, and they are about $40k

[g0rsk13g4n9st4]

@BlackwaterOpsDotCom ...and they draw about 80W of power too :) Yeah, I've heard of those. I did assume (forgive me if I was wrong) that this video describes consumer grade storage, and the fastest consumer grade SSDs (i.e. the ones that can actually end up in your laptop or desktop) are SATAIII interface @ 6 gbits/s. These aren't capable of delivering more than 600MB/s speeds, wouldn't you agree?

[BlackwaterOpsDotCom]

@g0rsk13g4n9st4 There are a lot of SSD's in the 1.2 Gigabyte Per Second Speed Range for consumers. I have a Super Talent 32 GIG that is 1.2 Gigabytes Per Second for Writes and 3.1 Gigabytes Per Second for Reads. They have an enclosure that makes 3 of them behave as a Single 3.5 inch drive which triples 2.8x 's the speed.

[g0rsk13g4n9st4]

@BlackwaterOpsDotCom Is that Super Talent drive a SATA SSD? Also, I'd hardly consider SSDs arranged in RAID configuration standard consumer devices.

[BlackwaterOpsDotCom]

@g0rsk13g4n9st4 Yes, SATA. I think that since the consumer just loads the 3 drives in to the enclosure and don't change the config, that it still counts... "Consumer" gets a little weird when you think about people like me who do video for fun... Probably "ProSumer" but Certainly not Enterprise only.

[g0rsk13g4n9st4]

@BlackwaterOpsDotCom Agreed. The line is definitely blurred between consumer and prosumer products. I guess I was thinking specifically about 2.5in SATA SSDs since those are the only ones that have thus far made it to the consumer market. Excellent vid BTW :)

[cal920c]

@lockergnome current generation SSD's don't reach that 600 Megabyte per second barrier.

[bielcouto]

@lockergnome You know that an 6GB/s is the SATA interface speed, right? (And not the actual speed of the device)

So it should not be use to compare speeds.

[HungrySandwitch]

@lockergnome sorry but you are still wrong just because the SSD says 6gb/s doesn't mean it goes that fast,it just means its using a fancy connection able to push up to "6Gb/s" in reality. personally i own a Revodrive ssd one of the fastest to date and i get around 600mb/s just to keep it even, so 10mb/s compared to 600mb/s only a 60x increase still a big difference but i just wanted to be accurate.

Just to go further i could of bought 3 60gb drives put them in raid 0 and have around 1400mb/s

[TizzyT455]

@HungrySandwitch Please next time distinguish between bit/second and bytes/second some might get confused. I personally use Mb/s to show bits and MB/s to show Bytes.

[DrakeTechnology]

VS. Super Saiyan.

[808SixPack]

good info

[iAmATechGeek]

Very nice!

[megasmart1337]

no hd ftw

[bradtwo]

Very informative . Thank you for putting this together and posting it.

[darkstar744]

Yes! I've been waiting for something like this. Thanks!

[2NiteUnderCityLights]

FIRST TO GET LAID!

[IronBeatzTV]

@2NiteUnderCityLights Damn I was close!