This is a very one-sided documentary. It did not take into account that these so called moros are Filipinos too, have been given autonomy with their former leader as governor, Nur Misuari, whose leadership was left wanting. This MILF are simply just liars, separatist and local warlords which doesn't need any sympathy or ear from any foreign government or international peace organizations.
instead of CRYING ABOUT YOUR HISTORY till your vast occupied land. arm yourselves with tools on farming instead of tools of war. learn to LIVE HARMONIOUSLY with the peace loving people of Mindanao.
This DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS cant live harmoniously with the peace loving people of Mindanao. They keep on CRYING about history & keep on demanding after demands.
this is a classic example of TAQIYYA or AL-TAQIYYA. muslims will lie and deceive if they feel that their religion is threatened (i.e. islam is a religion of peace). they want an islamic state in mindanao and let sharia law rule. most people think that islam is a religion, but it is not. islam is a political and military ideology. therefore, it is dangerous and is tantamount to SEDITION and TREASON to the Philippine Constitution. islam is EXPOSED
You know why the war will never end in mindanao? because they think their sharia law (islamic law) is far superior to our constitution. that the constitution is only 'man made', and not made by 'allah'. And because sharia is made by allah, the constitution will FADE AWAY like a memory. that their sharia law SUPERSEDS ALL LAWS. THAT is WHY they want a separate ISLAMIC STATE in mindanao. they do NOT consider themselves asfilipinos, but as MUSLIMS. it is called AL-JAMIYA. AL-SAFIYA, AL-MUJAHIDA
I am proud of the Philippines of being THE only Christian country in South East Asia. I'm proud of our Armed Forces and Police fighting anything and anyone that is against our Sovereignty, our Constitution and our Laws. if anyone doesn't recognize our Constitution and its Laws, you do not deserve to be in the Philippines and to be called a Filipino! RENOUNCE your citizenship and go to your muslim brothers in any muslim country and live there IF they will accept you
Yes, Islam is EXPOSED. Pinapalabas nila they want a 'separate' province because of "ancestral domain". That is FAR from the truth. FRONT lang nila yon. they want a separate province because they want to put up an ISLAMIC STATE. and that will NEVER happen. The Constitution IS the final AUTHORITY, NOT the qur'an, NOT the hadith, NOT the fatwa, Not the sunnah, NOT shariah, NOT jihad and NOT islam !!!
This particular issue that revived the conflict between the AFP and the MILF is now clear that Arroyo is out. Obviously, it was a ploy to put the country in turmoil while she and her cohorts rob the country. What better way to blame the failures of government on the rebels. Nakabenta na yang gimmick na yan noong kay Marcos. Laos na yan! Di na kami sasakay niyan. Sa kulongan na ang punta ninyo!
This particular issue that revived the conflict between the AFP and the MILF is now clear that Arroyo is out. Obviously, it was a ploy to put the country in turmoil while she and her cohorts rob the country. What better way to blame the failures of government on the rebels. Nakabenta na yang gimmick na yan noong kay Marcos. Laos na yan! Di na kami sasakay niyan. Sa kulongan na ang punta ninyo!
i'm prety sure that the only solution for the 4 decade war in mindanao is for the Government to used an iron hand...There's only 1 Government,only 1 armed forces...cease fire and negotiation will just give them time to regroup and rearmed & retrained...Like what the Srilankan Government did to The Tamil Tigers,total annihalition of their arm capability,only then they have the lasting peace...
cguro c farmville ayaw tanggapin ang katutuhanan,nanatili sya sa mga pangyayari nun n hindi n nangyari ngayon,stagnant,cguro galit at poot ang nasa puso nya,taliwas sa mga, sugo ng allah, pero iba ako sa kanyang pananao.hindi nman lahat ng babaeng muslim n rape, may iba n may gusto sa lalaking kristyano at dahil nga iba hindi payag ang magulang na isangdibdib kya sabihin na lang na ni rape.totoo yon at iyon ang hindi nya matanggap.
Countrymen killing their fellow countrymen. It seems like they forgot that no matter what religion we have, we still share the same filipino blood in are veins. The different kinds of religions that we have in the Philippines did not even originated from our own country. They are religions that outsiders brought with them. I mean, seriously, does anyone know what kind of religion we had before other people moved into our country?
Muslims in Phillipines have done nothing but cause trouble forever. The U.S. had to fight them after aquiring the Islands from Spain. Fragmentation of the country is the only thing they will accept. Now they have all kinds of inspiration from the successfull sepratist movements around the world. Sudan- South Sudan, , Moldova-Transdinister, Azerbaijan-Abkazia, Serbia-Kosovo etc. etc.
@flyguyinmotion How does it feel to know that you are descendant of Spanish rapist who tortured and killed your male ancestor while raping and keeping women as concubine? Moro fought while your ancestor watched while their mothers were raped in front of their eyes - without lifting one little finger You are dishonorable and cheap - just the 'ideal' citizen to support long and protracted warfare and killing of child's and women of Sulu and Mindanao. Scum you are
@bacaca88 No, you are in denial. I bring facts to you and you act like small child in play ground. Are mature adult or spending too much time on your playstation?
@bacaca88 they are so proud to be a product of rape. killing their male ancestor, raping their mother, they are proud of that.. anyway what is important is they have a Spanish bloodline.
@farmville14 You are either moron or educationally sub-normal. Go suck up to your rich papa who will protect you from intellectual concepts for which your brain is not designed.
@farmville14 You are either moron or educationally sub-normal. Go suck up to your rich papa who will protect you from intellectual concepts for which your brain is not designed.
@farmville14@farmville14 You are either moron or educationally sub-normal. Go suck up to your rich papa who will protect you from intellectual concepts for which your brain is not designed.
@farmville14 you are crazy mad and live in a place which is perverse. I hope you have no kids, because your ideas and bloodline deserves to be finished with you.
gusto lang sigurong maging hari sa mindanao yan, hindi naman lahat ng taga mindanao ay may gustu ng ganyan,gusto lang gumaya yan sa ibang bansa. gumawa ng sariling bansa para sila ang hahawak sa mindanao,ang totoo sariling pang intirist iyan.
this DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS keep on demanding after demand.
Look at this leader... I agree Haj Murad Ebrahim just want recognition, power & money.
instead of educating poor brother's & encourage peaceful working relationship with peace loving people of Mindanao HE is fueling it with his DOGMA & IGNORANCE.
this DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS keep demanding after demand.
Look at this leader... I agree Haj Murad Ebrahim just want recognition, power & money.
instead of educating poor brother's & encourage peaceful working relationship with peace loving people of Mindanao HE is fueling it with his DOGMA & IGNORANCE.
Civilians will die because of two greedy person, Gloria Arroyo who made the empty promise to stay in power and Murad Ebrahim who wants money, power and recognition?
who are the bangsa moro? The MILF? the MNLF? how about the civilian are they also BANGSA MORO? if so HOW MANY wish this state with in the state?
There is already an ARMM, what if this thing the MILF wanted had given, how sure are we that they will not go into war with each other? how about the other datus like the ampatuans?
If they are trying to say that this are for peace, I doubt it, WHY THERE IS SUNNI AND SHIITE MUSLIM?
@sird3vs who are the bangsa moro? The MILF? the MNLF? how about the civilian are they also BANGSA MORO? if so HOW MANY wish this state with in the state?
There is already an ARMM, what if this thing the MILF wanted had given, how sure are we that they will not go into war with each other? how about the other datus like the ampatuans?
If they are trying to say that this are for peace, I doubt it, WHY THERE IS SUNNI AND SHIITE MUSLIM?
this DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS keep demanding after demand.
Look at this leader... I agree Haj Murad Ebrahim just want recognition, power & money.
instead of educating poor brother's & encourage peaceful working relationship with peace loving people of Mindanao HE is fueling it with his DOGMA & IGNORANCE.
@purehuman Unlike you, I have 50% understanding of Mindanao. I will never own one inch of Mindanao and nor do I wish to - unlike a greedy 'Spanish' descendant (possibly product of a rape) like you. Btw, don't you sometimes wish that your ancestor tried to fight colonialism rather than warming a bed for foreign intercourse? Never mind, we can understand your confusion and hostility due to your background and lack of 'pure' blood line.
Imagine HOW DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE THIS MUSLIM REBELS are. They thought by opposing our colonizer they HAVE THE RIGHT TO OWN MINDANAO worst is they keep on crying that Mindanao belong only to them. Good things the ethics groups of Luzon & Visayas don’t have this kind of attitude like this Muslim Rebels.
And good thing Jose Rizal or even Gen. Aguinaldo didn’t claim any territorial boundary for risking their lives against our colonizer...hehe
imagine how DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS ARE.
they blame people sipping cocktails in Makati while people in conflict zone starve to death because this MUSLIM REBELS keep on insisting that they own Mindanao.
instead of CRYING ALL DAY ABOUT HISTORY, till your vast land and stop blaming others of your poverty.
@purehuman the 'Muslim rebels' you keep on harping on about are actually the legitimate indigenous peoples who 'trump' your Spanish conquistadors by several centuries. You Spanish prats can cry all day long for having faced some opposition to your failed domination plans in the place you call the Philippines, but fact remaims you have zero legitimate rights to Sulu, Mindanao and Palawan, Merry Chrismas.
@purehuman who wouldnt be igniorant and dogmatic if other asshoulse from the north flood your land and make you in your own land a minority! And before then 300 years long fucking spanish asshouls try to colonize you!!! And the fucking USA make 1903 a law wher christans get 20h of the land and muslims are only allowed 10h to own so permantly the christans take the land of the Muslims in mindanao!!! So plz you asshouls have fetish taking muslim land ha? like palastin or bosnia!!!
I find it interesting that there are many 'experts' here who have never been to the Philippines, Mindanao or Sulu and that their understanding of history post Spain is nil - never mind the centuries previous to this. They use stupid americanisms to play up to imbeciles in the Philippines and expect to be taken seriously? Most of these idiots don't even know their own history or even basic world geography. Please reply to me if you feel that you fall into this catagory.
@bacaca88 Can you read? How come I become a racist? You are supporting those terrorists MILF? They don't represent Filipino-Muslims.
I'm a Filipino, I live in the Philippines. Are you also a Filipino who lives in the Philippines? If you are not, then you know nothing about Mindanao, the evil MILF, the corrupt Arroyo administration and that sell out MO-AD.
Debate in the internet? Oh. you mean arguing like a retard? Even if you won you're still a retard. Thanks but no thanks.
@warnation101 Where do you live - Sulu? You accuse me of not understanding Mindanao, then I accuse you of not understanding your own country - if indeed you are Filipino and living in the Philippines, then you may know something about history and care to make peace. However, until you prove otherwise, then you are ingnoramus living in Luzon who supports death to LUMAD and Moro. Now, if you like to learn your history than I can give links. If you like war, then go f**k yourself.
@warnation101 Btw, you accept that you are descendant of King Phillip conquistador who probably raped your ancestor? I guess you take their Spanish name to seal this. What is your surname?
@bacaca88 Clearly you don't understand anything in our country. MILF is just a breakaway group from the MNLF. The MNLF is a former islamist separatist group who has chose peace to help make Mindanao a better place. MILF not a terrorists? umm you're right. They perform kidnappings, bombings and indiscriminate killings. They are in fact criminals! You don't even know half of what is going on in our country. What do you know about MILF? From wikipedia? from their website? or bias news like this?
@warnation101 The MILF is not 'just a breakaway group' like you so flippantly describe. The MNLF and MILF have very strong links. The MNLF sold out in Mnay Moro eyes for nothing. The MILF have continued to stuggle to persue a legitimate arguement for their historic ancestral domains. Regarding kidnappings and terror, then I assume that you refer to minority groups and splinter organisations which you and the GRP like to link to the Bangsamoro claim to their homelands.
Who said I want to kill moros? You are the liar! In fact we have a Mindanao legacy in our family. I have relatives & friends who lives in Mindanao. Some of them are Muslims. Don't lecture me about Philippine history. I have a obsession with our country's TRUE history. Not the history written by the Americans.
I think you should be the one who must shut up. You don't know anything!
@warnation101 You come over as a person who has made a deal with the GRP to make your life easy while the majority of Bangsamoro tribes live in a state of conflict. No wonder that you are quick to defend your position; sure that many must dislike you. This is the bed you make.
@warnation101 Oh, forgot to say that while you sip cocktails in Makati, people starve to death in conflict affected areas to your south. Maybe your big friends in Mindanao can enlighten you to this.
@warnation101 this DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS keep demanding after demand.
Look at this leader... I agree Haj Murad Ebrahim just want recognition, power & money.
instead of educating poor brother's & encourage peaceful working relationship with peace loving people of Mindanao HE is fueling it with his DOGMA & IGNORANCE.
@huanthamad I just spent 1 hour reading all exchanges on this thread after travelling for 9 weeks in places that you should see. It is a real shame that you cannot put your efforts into making peace, because I am sure that you have much to contribute to over and above criticising the Moro for everything and feeling bitter. I am afraid that you are one of the victims of conflict brought upon the area by previous governments and colonialists in the region.
he can not learn because he think that he is smarter to anyone and he know everything...he intimated everyone who argue with him, he call extremist those who defend their right.. he want to defame every facts against him and against to his bias claims...then what is the use of mutual dialogue with this kind of creature?
just Read it man, start from the Start. Ive got nothing to hide. All my comments are there for people like you to see. i never deleted on thats the Whole point.
well, the Insults started with Her and youd see During the course of the arguement time and time again, she insults me and my ancestors.
While me my self are just bringing them back.
It would have Ended up in this if she didnt insult me to Begin With.
@huanthamad how can you managed to say i started the dirty conversation when you intimidate everyone who spoke against you and your bias beliefs..
you claims to be smarter than everyone who argue you..you insulted them..you intimidate them..
you've mentioned a lot of insults..dirty and unacceptable word..at the end of the line you claimed to be innocent? lol..you are not just a stupid genius but a great liar and pretender if not a hypocrite..
@huanthamad if you think that i will be frighted by your technical terms, and i can not understand it..please change you mode. that is so common and beside...even if u use a deepest word..i can still search it from the net.. so your aim to frighten me is not working..
it just made me funny every time that there are someone who claims to be smarter and sophisticated but he is just a funny clown n d eye of other..
@huanthamad nice self defense actualy...hahaha.. we knew how you sabotaged the topic starting from one jumping to another.. it is expected for me to gain a lot of inflammatory accusation from you..so it doesn't matter to me..
well anyway..
regarding your ancestor..
you have been assaulting my religion and my nationality continuously trough bias accusation.. when you assault my religion..it is worse than you assault my ancestor and my family.. so for Christ sake...do not pretend as a victim.
he/she got pwned as Sammanth9000 and then waited a few months to get back at me, creating a new account and posing as a "non bias anti-extrimist" which was not supported by his/her first 2 comments that, Insulted me and my Ancestors.
its funny and it defies logic. and for the Past few Days ive been playing Tetrist with Sammanth9000 brain.
GOING back to your ancestor, if a certain group will fight with the enemy against his brothers, just to absorb the power can be taken from the enemy, thinking that the enemy has a higher class, a powerful class of the people, a good people..a civilized people compare to his brothers? and accept the new coming religion in order to live?
TRAITOR?
COWARD?
POWER ORIENTED?
no! not just that but they are also a MORALE DEFEATED.
where am i for d past 10 years? that must be 2000 maybe. actually our house was made of woods..an indigenous house...not made of rock.
Muslims and Christians have a good relations? the Rise of Extremism, sectarianism?
"once again, if we extend to d history, the starting point of the war here in Mindanao is not because being sectarianism by the Muslims, the reason is the illegal and force annexation of the Moro homeland".
@huanthamad "Muslims along side people of other Religions are being Victimized by Muslim Fundamentalist who Idealized and part of that Ideology is Sectarianism a Perverted Islamic View on Society"? actually this irrational, illogical and totally not significant to the Mindanao issue.
once again, if we extend to d history, the starting point of the war here in Mindanao is not because being sectarianism by the Muslims, the reason is the illegal and force annexation of the Moro homeland.
ACTUALLY IT IS SIGNIFICANT in the Issues MINDANAO FACE.
Where have you LIVED for the Past 10 years ? Under a ROCK.
Muslims and Christians in the Philippines have had Good Relationships for a very long time, with no problems. however with the Rise of Extremism in the Muslim population, it had forced Christians and people of other Religions to be warry of the Situation, Giving rise to Mistrust and sectarian Divide with in the populance.
and that Divide is what Muslim Extremist such as Your self, are Using to distance Muslims from Christians, Jews, Buddist and people of Other Religion.
However This Divide Does not only Occur in places such as Mindanao, it also occurs in other Countries such as Thailand and most important of all Indonesia.
I just Dont know how stupid you are. but i can guess you are as Stupid as the MILF and Abu Sayaf.
you are trying to gather a lot of bad literature against Muslims purposely to jump to the conclusion that Muslim is like this and like that, that doesn't have a legitimate claim to their home land...
you avoid using history, why? instead ur using "Illogical, Irrational, Prejudicial, Discriminatory, Hateful and most of all IGNORANT view against Muslims.
i regard to the history of your tribe, i know it is hard for you to accept that.
I guess judging from your Grammar that you are Nomore just like Sammantha9000, a Pathetic Scum of the Earth.
LOL READ, dont you know how to Read? atleast learn to Comprehend.
if you are Sammanth9000 you are a Compulsive Lier. it Shows in your Comments. Trying to Mislead people. just like what you did before (in referrence to your usage of the Geneva Convention.
YOU come as LOW as deleting your Hateful comments so that nobody could Referrence at them.
but one thing is Apperent you Wrote thoes Comments because Youtube keeps track of the Comments being sent.
as people would read My comment and Compare them to your REMOVED COMMENTS you'd realised that they are more likely to agree to me, than to a COWARD such as your self.
Tell me Are your Ancestors Cowards?, coz you sure have gotten that PATHETIC Trait From them.
@huanthamad why dont you focus on discussing d root of the problem instead of talking a lot of non sense against me?
Tell me Are your Ancestors Cowards? i dont hav even 1 ancestor who betray his fellow Moros during the time of colonizer. They fought against the spaniards, 2 defend their homeland and religion...with out even fear of death.. can u call them coward?
while chabacano tribe? tel me wht they did?
they embraced christianity n order to survive against d brutality of the spaniards.
@huanthamad if you say Muslim and christian has a good relation..yeah maybe you r right, but if you say..the rise of extremist is the source of the problem, i hope you know that this war has started since 300 years ago..during the time of Spanish colonization,followed by the American invasion..Japanese and GRP force annexation of the Bangsamaoro homeland.
the rise of extremist, terrorist, fundamentalist, etc. is just a fruit of force annexation of the Moro homeland
@jesusChrist30001 this war is continues from the time of Spaniards until now. how can you blame the MILF who just existed only 40 years ago while this war started almost 300-400 years?
once again...it is very clear clear that the reason of this war is not the MILF/MNLF/ABUSAYAF/ and not me..
The reason is the illegal, the brutal and the continues annexation of the bangsamoro home land.
we dont need to jump to another country in order to comprehend the situation..just read the history..
Buddhism and Hiduism, were then Accompanied by Taoism and other Native SE Asian Religions.
but Soon after the 10th century Islam Arrived via Traders who would have only traded with people with knowledge of islam. They convinced people that their Religion is better than any of the others. and sold the Idea of a Monistic Religion to the Natives.
Trade and Economic Wealth (Because Muslim take priority to trade with other Muslims).
Prestige being Granted by the title of Datu. (because from wealth comes Power)
Authority to thoes who follows the Datu. (Men who converts to Islam because their Master tells them too)
This Society is a Feudal Society driven only by a Higherarchy. Positively enforced by wealth and negatively enforced by the lack of trade and economical income.
and It doesnt Take a Genius to figured out that with the Title of Datu and that Persons Allegiance to Islam, a Datu has the Mission to Spread Islam as a Religion and convert as Many people as Possible to his Religion and with the prospects of Expanding his Land.
He Counquers other Tribes Converting them or Killing them In the Process. taking Land and Commodities along the way.
this Systematic Conflicts rise to Other Conflicts. till the whole Region is predominantly Muslim.
however Even with the knowledge that Everyone in the Area is Muslim. one thing still is On going. and that is the Conflict between the different Clans that rule the Regions.
these Clans now do not Compete to convert but to claim Land. and Because Buddism and Hinduism as a Religion is now almost Non-existent in South East Asia. the People of the Region did not have an Alternative Religion to Convert to.
the Countless years of Fighting even with Islam as a Common Religion Disenchants people.
the Disenchantment in the religion of Islam is caused by the conflict that rises from the Land Disputes and Disagreements between the Different Clans and Tribes that exist in that Particular Region.
for short Islam as a Religion of Peace, isnt Delivering Peace yet it is Used as an Excuse to Further war. As Humans do with Religions.
along this time the Spaniards come and brought with them another Religion. a Religion way Before Islam. Christianity.
Christianity as a Religion was Older than Islam. This Fact Convinced most Natives to take in o consideration Christianity as a Religion.
however the most realistically pleasing proposition which came with Christianity is Love and Tolerance. Something that people of that region longed for.
To understand the Psyche of the Spaniards. Spanish History should be Taken in to Consideration.
Spain as a Nation was Conquered by the Moors, an Islamic Tribe composed of Arabs, North Africans and Berbers.
and They as a Tribe didnt exactly Treat Spain any better than the Visigoths German Tribes that Previously Ruled.
with Islam ruling Spain. Jews, Christians and people of Other Religions had to Pay Extremely High Taxes than ther Muslim counterparts and be bound by Islamic Law. Something that Conflict with their own Personal Religions and Views.
With a History such as Spains it is No wonder that they Try to do what the Deemed right. Claim the Region which is Now the Philippines and Rid of the Moors, which are the Moros.
You didnt know that did you?
So let Recap.
the First Religions in the Malay peninsula was Animism.
the ones that Came After was Hinduism and Buddhism.
@huanthamad first of all, your technical terms is not deep enough to use dictionary.
about the animist, Taoist, Maoist,Buddhist religions...i am also aware of that.
and i believe also that Christianity is more than 600 years ahead of Islam.
yeah, as you said Islam was spread by some Islam preacher at d same time a trader trough Peace. and it was accepted by the people. compare to the Christianity brought by the Spaniards who used bible and sword to spread Christianity..
Islam trough Muhamad was originated from Saudi Arabia and it was spread all over d world trough conquest as it was sabotage by some Arabs who has a politically motivated lyk Ottoman empire, and descendants of salahuddin who invaded Spain (ghazwat al andalus). Islam was used by a lot of people who want to establish power in a certain place, in a modern time..lyk taleban organized by Usama ben laden.
it was spread also trough peaceful means like sharif al makhdum, sharif kabungsuan & ibnu batuta.
same situation in Philippines, there are some people who embrace Islam as it was the existing and dominant religion in Asia..but majority of the Moro has accept this by faith in fact they sacrifice their life to defend it from the Christianity.
Islam must be spread out trough peaceful mean like what this people did.
either we accept it or not...Islam was brought here trough peaceful means and majority of the country was a Muslim...from Luzon to Mindanao.
to respond from your accusation against the datus about feudalism and killing of those who doesn't convert to Islam, i heard that trough my grand father.
but i think, you over generalizing it.
if we go back to the book of HKS, there are somethings they called INCOMeNDA which is the vast hectares of Lands was owned by certain Spanish officer or owned by d church..it was energized by so called forced labor which the force the indios (filipinos) to work. same thing with the datus...
about killing of those who wont accept Islam..i guess it is funny, i totally for got the proper texts and page but it was wrote in the book of Philippine history authored by Zonia Zaide that the natives (filipinos) from manila, visayas has no other option but to accept Christianity to save the life of their family as christian Spaniards will kill those who wont accept Christianity. there are some who remain Islam, they went to the mountain to save their religion..
what problem i am talking about is the War between Philippine and the Moro people not that tiny feudal conflict..every where in this earth has a problem like that in the ancient time.
we will go back to the question again that what is the reason and why there is a war between Philippines and the MOro people? and please based it on Philippine history not on anti Muslim gathering data from the outside.
"what problem i am talking about is the War between Philippine and the Moro people not that tiny feudal conflict..every where in this earth has a problem like that in the ancient time"
What Do you Think Started the War? You Said it your self Christianity Brought fourth By Spain Started the Conflict.
Sammantha9000 And i Know its you. Your Pathetic, No matter what you Do. You cant Hide the Fact that you are IGNORANT, PREJUDICIAL LIER.
Only an Idiot would Class Maoist Ideology as a Medival Religion, and Claim that they are Aware of the Regions History ?
Pathetic, That alone Proves that Your uninformed and IGNORANT.
You propose your Own versions of History Blocking the others.
You Demonized Spain for being Harsh to the Moro people of the Philippines yet Know Nothing about their History. and How they were Conquered by Moors and Treated the same way.
However with a Convergence to Christianity, Muslim warlords loose their Authority over these people and Their Land. hence Lose their Prestige and Power
Its all about how Society Changes and how these people could not Change.
The commanders in the MILF and Abu Sayaf are Nomore Noless than Warlords.
This is Proven By this Video, where it emphasises the Lack of Leadership with in the MILF organization. (Because it is Made up of Different WARLORDS)
@huanthamad Dou you know Ali rahman lahmuddin, an Islamic scholar and at d same time preacher who convinced a lot of people to accept Islam without even fighting?
Seihk Sudais. Who use peaceful way of preaching in order to propagate and to spread Islam. They are not just thousands but millions of missionaries. Not a traders
People Accepted Christianinty (Christianity) because its Offered more Promising Prospects than Islam, as Well as the fact that it was a Mush Older Religion than Islam.
As I said, Christianity was existed some 600 years ahead of Islam. It was started in Canaan by the people who follow Jesus the son of Marry (Peace be upon them), now known as Palestine. To Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, turkey. It was extended to rome by the self anointed apostle. St. Paul, To Rome..
Lol the Spread of Islam in Europe was NOT Peaceful,
i hope you know what is the ottoman Empire i have cited in my previous comment.
Ottoman Empire is a product of Mongolian Muslim converts who invaded Persia and some Arab land like Egypt.
Like Spain, the Invasion of Europe was politically motivated. about land, territory and power by the people who take advantage d name of religion 2 gain power. the result is hatred among the people who was victim of that oppression.
@jesusChrist30001 i am against feudalism. i am against extremism, i am against d brutal spreading of religion..but that is not an excuse to jump to the story of Muslims invasion in Africa, Persia, Europe and Asia
leaving out the dreadful history of Spanish colonization here in our homeland.
now..let us leave Spain..what about the crusaders who kills thousands of people inside the city of Jerusalem, Crusaders is a brutal religious army worse than the barbarians although they have good combat skill...(modern time) the situation of Chechnya Muslims inside the Soviet territory, Bosnia, and plus the political war..Japan vs. US. Soviet vs. Allied. US vs. Great. Britain...haha, anyway this is a christian against christian war.. like Iraq and iran war..that's fair enough?
i hope you'll read all my comments 1 after 1..then i am waiting for your harsh comments against me...a stupid..ignorant..poor in grammar. poor in spelling.low level of i.q..idiot..etc..
but my blood is pure Moro.. you know what i mean? my ancestor has managed 2 defend d dignity of my tribe..they are not cowards..they doesn't allow the Spanish to govern them..to use them against their fellow Moro. they fought against Americans& Japanese 2 defend their identity as a free Moro..i am proud 4 that
MUSLIM AND CHRISTIAN ARE STILL FIGHTING IN THE SOUTHERN PHILIPPINES...... THIS WILL NOT END TILL THE DAY OF RESSURECTION
MyKUREI 2 months ago
This is a very one-sided documentary. It did not take into account that these so called moros are Filipinos too, have been given autonomy with their former leader as governor, Nur Misuari, whose leadership was left wanting. This MILF are simply just liars, separatist and local warlords which doesn't need any sympathy or ear from any foreign government or international peace organizations.
SCC76 3 months ago
instead of CRYING ABOUT YOUR HISTORY till your vast occupied land. arm yourselves with tools on farming instead of tools of war. learn to LIVE HARMONIOUSLY with the peace loving people of Mindanao.
purehuman 3 months ago
@purehuman nice if the grp and their oligarch spanish mongrol descendants saw it your way - but they do not.
bacaca88 2 months ago
@bacaca88 thats how you look at it.
DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS.
purehuman 2 months ago
This DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS cant live harmoniously with the peace loving people of Mindanao. They keep on CRYING about history & keep on demanding after demands.
purehuman 3 months ago
DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS! they can't live harmoniously with our fellow Filipino.
purehuman 3 months ago
DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS!
purehuman 3 months ago
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this is a classic example of TAQIYYA or AL-TAQIYYA. muslims will lie and deceive if they feel that their religion is threatened (i.e. islam is a religion of peace). they want an islamic state in mindanao and let sharia law rule. most people think that islam is a religion, but it is not. islam is a political and military ideology. therefore, it is dangerous and is tantamount to SEDITION and TREASON to the Philippine Constitution. islam is EXPOSED
thesanctfy 3 months ago
You know why the war will never end in mindanao? because they think their sharia law (islamic law) is far superior to our constitution. that the constitution is only 'man made', and not made by 'allah'. And because sharia is made by allah, the constitution will FADE AWAY like a memory. that their sharia law SUPERSEDS ALL LAWS. THAT is WHY they want a separate ISLAMIC STATE in mindanao. they do NOT consider themselves asfilipinos, but as MUSLIMS. it is called AL-JAMIYA. AL-SAFIYA, AL-MUJAHIDA
thesanctfy 3 months ago
I am proud of the Philippines of being THE only Christian country in South East Asia. I'm proud of our Armed Forces and Police fighting anything and anyone that is against our Sovereignty, our Constitution and our Laws. if anyone doesn't recognize our Constitution and its Laws, you do not deserve to be in the Philippines and to be called a Filipino! RENOUNCE your citizenship and go to your muslim brothers in any muslim country and live there IF they will accept you
thesanctfy 3 months ago
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Yes, Islam is EXPOSED. Pinapalabas nila they want a 'separate' province because of "ancestral domain". That is FAR from the truth. FRONT lang nila yon. they want a separate province because they want to put up an ISLAMIC STATE. and that will NEVER happen. The Constitution IS the final AUTHORITY, NOT the qur'an, NOT the hadith, NOT the fatwa, Not the sunnah, NOT shariah, NOT jihad and NOT islam !!!
thesanctfy 3 months ago
DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS. They keep on crying about history...
purehuman 4 months ago
This particular issue that revived the conflict between the AFP and the MILF is now clear that Arroyo is out. Obviously, it was a ploy to put the country in turmoil while she and her cohorts rob the country. What better way to blame the failures of government on the rebels. Nakabenta na yang gimmick na yan noong kay Marcos. Laos na yan! Di na kami sasakay niyan. Sa kulongan na ang punta ninyo!
PilipinoCorruption 6 months ago
This particular issue that revived the conflict between the AFP and the MILF is now clear that Arroyo is out. Obviously, it was a ploy to put the country in turmoil while she and her cohorts rob the country. What better way to blame the failures of government on the rebels. Nakabenta na yang gimmick na yan noong kay Marcos. Laos na yan! Di na kami sasakay niyan. Sa kulongan na ang punta ninyo!
PilipinoCorruption 6 months ago
Every Muslim land should send one battalion on mindanao to fucking push back the rasstistic Philipin army!!!
PunisherLobo 6 months ago
i'm prety sure that the only solution for the 4 decade war in mindanao is for the Government to used an iron hand...There's only 1 Government,only 1 armed forces...cease fire and negotiation will just give them time to regroup and rearmed & retrained...Like what the Srilankan Government did to The Tamil Tigers,total annihalition of their arm capability,only then they have the lasting peace...
spurlin122083 7 months ago
Muslims are a serious problem everwhere they have numbers.
spartacus6839 9 months ago
I hope, the guilty pple will face their own guilt... they r just playing with muslsims as they want to take mindanao for their own stomachs
hannah18itification 10 months ago
pwede ba,tigil mo na yang isyung ni-rape, kinikilabutan ako s iyo,alam ko marami sa atin ang hindi matanggap iyan.
jewel0426 10 months ago
cguro c farmville ayaw tanggapin ang katutuhanan,nanatili sya sa mga pangyayari nun n hindi n nangyari ngayon,stagnant,cguro galit at poot ang nasa puso nya,taliwas sa mga, sugo ng allah, pero iba ako sa kanyang pananao.hindi nman lahat ng babaeng muslim n rape, may iba n may gusto sa lalaking kristyano at dahil nga iba hindi payag ang magulang na isangdibdib kya sabihin na lang na ni rape.totoo yon at iyon ang hindi nya matanggap.
jewel0426 10 months ago
Countrymen killing their fellow countrymen. It seems like they forgot that no matter what religion we have, we still share the same filipino blood in are veins. The different kinds of religions that we have in the Philippines did not even originated from our own country. They are religions that outsiders brought with them. I mean, seriously, does anyone know what kind of religion we had before other people moved into our country?
Adeptusrosse 10 months ago
DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS? why they cant laid down their weapons & leave HARMONIOUSLY with the peace loving people of Mindanao?
Again & again they keep on CRYING HISTORY. Are this MUSLIM REBELS can't accept democracy? they want continued violence?
purehuman 10 months ago
Muslims in Phillipines have done nothing but cause trouble forever. The U.S. had to fight them after aquiring the Islands from Spain. Fragmentation of the country is the only thing they will accept. Now they have all kinds of inspiration from the successfull sepratist movements around the world. Sudan- South Sudan, , Moldova-Transdinister, Azerbaijan-Abkazia, Serbia-Kosovo etc. etc.
flyguyinmotion 11 months ago
@flyguyinmotion this is the most misleading information I'd read here in the you tube.
farmville14 11 months ago
@flyguyinmotion How does it feel to know that you are descendant of Spanish rapist who tortured and killed your male ancestor while raping and keeping women as concubine? Moro fought while your ancestor watched while their mothers were raped in front of their eyes - without lifting one little finger You are dishonorable and cheap - just the 'ideal' citizen to support long and protracted warfare and killing of child's and women of Sulu and Mindanao. Scum you are
bacaca88 10 months ago
@bacaca88 I think you have me confused with someone else. Not Spanish, don't keep concubines, don't hurt anyone. You're trippin'
flyguyinmotion 10 months ago
@flyguyinmotion No, it is you who are in total denial.
bacaca88 10 months ago
@bacaca88 No, you are in denial. I bring facts to you and you act like small child in play ground. Are mature adult or spending too much time on your playstation?
bacaca88 10 months ago
@flyguyinmotion Do you know anything about history of the colonial Spanish in your area? Are your stupid or just pretending to be stupid?
bacaca88 10 months ago
@bacaca88 they are so proud to be a product of rape. killing their male ancestor, raping their mother, they are proud of that.. anyway what is important is they have a Spanish bloodline.
farmville14 10 months ago
@farmville14 You are either moron or educationally sub-normal. Go suck up to your rich papa who will protect you from intellectual concepts for which your brain is not designed.
bacaca88 10 months ago
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@farmville14 You are either moron or educationally sub-normal. Go suck up to your rich papa who will protect you from intellectual concepts for which your brain is not designed.
bacaca88 10 months ago
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@farmville14 @farmville14 You are either moron or educationally sub-normal. Go suck up to your rich papa who will protect you from intellectual concepts for which your brain is not designed.
bacaca88 10 months ago
@farmville14 you are crazy mad and live in a place which is perverse. I hope you have no kids, because your ideas and bloodline deserves to be finished with you.
bacaca88 10 months ago
gusto lang sigurong maging hari sa mindanao yan, hindi naman lahat ng taga mindanao ay may gustu ng ganyan,gusto lang gumaya yan sa ibang bansa. gumawa ng sariling bansa para sila ang hahawak sa mindanao,ang totoo sariling pang intirist iyan.
jewel0426 1 year ago
wake up brother & stop dreaming you own Mindanao... (-;
purehuman 1 year ago
we're actually Filipino in the PHILIPPINES and not living on the past... hehe. unlike the DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS.
btw, why can't YOU live harmoniously with the peaceful loving people of Mindanao?
purehuman 1 year ago
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if this DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS are not capable of PEACE...
ALL OUT WAR is the best option.
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this DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS keep on demanding after demand.
Look at this leader... I agree Haj Murad Ebrahim just want recognition, power & money.
instead of educating poor brother's & encourage peaceful working relationship with peace loving people of Mindanao HE is fueling it with his DOGMA & IGNORANCE.
purehuman 1 year ago
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this DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS keep demanding after demand.
Look at this leader... I agree Haj Murad Ebrahim just want recognition, power & money.
instead of educating poor brother's & encourage peaceful working relationship with peace loving people of Mindanao HE is fueling it with his DOGMA & IGNORANCE.
purehuman 1 year ago
Mohamad Alah can suck my shit!
TheGerryjoy 1 year ago
@TheGerryjoy you are a dick
bacaca88 1 year ago
Civilians will die because of two greedy person, Gloria Arroyo who made the empty promise to stay in power and Murad Ebrahim who wants money, power and recognition?
sird3vs 1 year ago
who are the bangsa moro? The MILF? the MNLF? how about the civilian are they also BANGSA MORO? if so HOW MANY wish this state with in the state?
There is already an ARMM, what if this thing the MILF wanted had given, how sure are we that they will not go into war with each other? how about the other datus like the ampatuans?
If they are trying to say that this are for peace, I doubt it, WHY THERE IS SUNNI AND SHIITE MUSLIM?
THIS IS ALL ABOUT POWER FOR THOSE MUSLIM LEADERS
sird3vs 1 year ago
@sird3vs who are the bangsa moro? The MILF? the MNLF? how about the civilian are they also BANGSA MORO? if so HOW MANY wish this state with in the state?
There is already an ARMM, what if this thing the MILF wanted had given, how sure are we that they will not go into war with each other? how about the other datus like the ampatuans?
If they are trying to say that this are for peace, I doubt it, WHY THERE IS SUNNI AND SHIITE MUSLIM?
---that is not your business actually--
farmville14 1 year ago
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this DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS keep demanding after demand.
Look at this leader... I agree Haj Murad Ebrahim just want recognition, power & money.
instead of educating poor brother's & encourage peaceful working relationship with peace loving people of Mindanao HE is fueling it with his DOGMA & IGNORANCE.
purehuman 1 year ago
@farmville14 ....
that's it?
not my business actually?
did I touch some nerve?
transalation: I am right... this is all about money and power.
The very same reason why there is SUNNI and SHAIITE MUSLIM.
sird3vs 1 year ago
@sird3vs problem is coming from colonial oligarch who claim lands that they do no have title to.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@sird3vs maybe you ask for audience with Arroyo so she can explain her oligarch policy to control Mindanao for dickbrains like you.
bacaca88 1 year ago
keep DREAMING that you own MINDANAO... hehe
purehuman 1 year ago
@purehuman you Spanish like to dream this for past 400 years. What is the weather like in Madrid right now?
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 spic hehehehehe
bacaca88 1 year ago
@purehuman Unlike you, I have 50% understanding of Mindanao. I will never own one inch of Mindanao and nor do I wish to - unlike a greedy 'Spanish' descendant (possibly product of a rape) like you. Btw, don't you sometimes wish that your ancestor tried to fight colonialism rather than warming a bed for foreign intercourse? Never mind, we can understand your confusion and hostility due to your background and lack of 'pure' blood line.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@purehuman I give my chance of survival in Mindanao 1000% better than you. Take your guns away and we can make competition - chicken boy.
bacaca88 10 months ago
Imagine HOW DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE THIS MUSLIM REBELS are. They thought by opposing our colonizer they HAVE THE RIGHT TO OWN MINDANAO worst is they keep on crying that Mindanao belong only to them. Good things the ethics groups of Luzon & Visayas don’t have this kind of attitude like this Muslim Rebels.
And good thing Jose Rizal or even Gen. Aguinaldo didn’t claim any territorial boundary for risking their lives against our colonizer...hehe
purehuman 1 year ago
@purehuman keep quoting spanish claims which mean nothing.
bacaca88 1 year ago
imagine how DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS ARE.
they blame people sipping cocktails in Makati while people in conflict zone starve to death because this MUSLIM REBELS keep on insisting that they own Mindanao.
instead of CRYING ALL DAY ABOUT HISTORY, till your vast land and stop blaming others of your poverty.
purehuman 1 year ago
@purehuman the 'Muslim rebels' you keep on harping on about are actually the legitimate indigenous peoples who 'trump' your Spanish conquistadors by several centuries. You Spanish prats can cry all day long for having faced some opposition to your failed domination plans in the place you call the Philippines, but fact remaims you have zero legitimate rights to Sulu, Mindanao and Palawan, Merry Chrismas.
bacaca88 1 year ago
and you KEEP ON CRYING HISTORY TO FUEL WAR ON MINDANAO (-;
DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS.
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purehuman 1 year ago
coz you really can't live HARMONIOUSLY WITH THE PEACEFUL LOVING PEOPLE OF MINDANAO. i know its a hard reality you can't accept (-;
'coz you exactly know how DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS are... hehe
purehuman 1 year ago 22
@purehuman Racist pig.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@purehuman who wouldnt be igniorant and dogmatic if other asshoulse from the north flood your land and make you in your own land a minority! And before then 300 years long fucking spanish asshouls try to colonize you!!! And the fucking USA make 1903 a law wher christans get 20h of the land and muslims are only allowed 10h to own so permantly the christans take the land of the Muslims in mindanao!!! So plz you asshouls have fetish taking muslim land ha? like palastin or bosnia!!!
PunisherLobo 6 months ago
you know this DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS, they closed their mind about Mindanao.
imagine compare to all ethic groups in the Philippines they are the ONLY ONE CRYING that MINDANAO ONLY BELONGS to them.
purehuman 1 year ago
@purehuman you are trying to repeat your comments in every page I've found.
is it just a sort of copy and paste method?
farmville14 1 year ago
this DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS, they keep using history to fuel their war & keep terrorizing the PEACE LOVING PEOPLE OF MINDANAO.
purehuman 1 year ago
I find it interesting that there are many 'experts' here who have never been to the Philippines, Mindanao or Sulu and that their understanding of history post Spain is nil - never mind the centuries previous to this. They use stupid americanisms to play up to imbeciles in the Philippines and expect to be taken seriously? Most of these idiots don't even know their own history or even basic world geography. Please reply to me if you feel that you fall into this catagory.
bacaca88 1 year ago
i cant post a comment
farmville14 1 year ago
WTF very one sided story lol --- shame on you!
neodelphi 1 year ago
The MO-AD is not a tool of peace. It's a sell out by the Arroyo administration!
warnation101 1 year ago
@warnation101 - I think that you are racist who I like to debate with here. Where is you racist hometown - US?
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warnation101 1 year ago
@bacaca88 Can you read? How come I become a racist? You are supporting those terrorists MILF? They don't represent Filipino-Muslims.
I'm a Filipino, I live in the Philippines. Are you also a Filipino who lives in the Philippines? If you are not, then you know nothing about Mindanao, the evil MILF, the corrupt Arroyo administration and that sell out MO-AD.
Debate in the internet? Oh. you mean arguing like a retard? Even if you won you're still a retard. Thanks but no thanks.
warnation101 1 year ago
@warnation101 Where do you live - Sulu? You accuse me of not understanding Mindanao, then I accuse you of not understanding your own country - if indeed you are Filipino and living in the Philippines, then you may know something about history and care to make peace. However, until you prove otherwise, then you are ingnoramus living in Luzon who supports death to LUMAD and Moro. Now, if you like to learn your history than I can give links. If you like war, then go f**k yourself.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@warnation101 MILF are not terrorist you moron. Read something useful about your history and understand better than 5th grade moron you come over as.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 the MILF is an Islamic group that supports a rebel organization and takes part in terrorist activities. Is the MILF a terrorist group?
innonni 1 year ago
@warnation101 Btw, you accept that you are descendant of King Phillip conquistador who probably raped your ancestor? I guess you take their Spanish name to seal this. What is your surname?
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 Clearly you don't understand anything in our country. MILF is just a breakaway group from the MNLF. The MNLF is a former islamist separatist group who has chose peace to help make Mindanao a better place. MILF not a terrorists? umm you're right. They perform kidnappings, bombings and indiscriminate killings. They are in fact criminals! You don't even know half of what is going on in our country. What do you know about MILF? From wikipedia? from their website? or bias news like this?
warnation101 1 year ago
@warnation101 The MILF is not 'just a breakaway group' like you so flippantly describe. The MNLF and MILF have very strong links. The MNLF sold out in Mnay Moro eyes for nothing. The MILF have continued to stuggle to persue a legitimate arguement for their historic ancestral domains. Regarding kidnappings and terror, then I assume that you refer to minority groups and splinter organisations which you and the GRP like to link to the Bangsamoro claim to their homelands.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88
Who said I want to kill moros? You are the liar! In fact we have a Mindanao legacy in our family. I have relatives & friends who lives in Mindanao. Some of them are Muslims. Don't lecture me about Philippine history. I have a obsession with our country's TRUE history. Not the history written by the Americans.
I think you should be the one who must shut up. You don't know anything!
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@warnation101 You come over as a person who has made a deal with the GRP to make your life easy while the majority of Bangsamoro tribes live in a state of conflict. No wonder that you are quick to defend your position; sure that many must dislike you. This is the bed you make.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@warnation101 Oh, forgot to say that while you sip cocktails in Makati, people starve to death in conflict affected areas to your south. Maybe your big friends in Mindanao can enlighten you to this.
bacaca88 1 year ago
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@warnation101 this DOGMATIC & IGNORANCE DRIVEN MUSLIM REBELS keep demanding after demand.
Look at this leader... I agree Haj Murad Ebrahim just want recognition, power & money.
instead of educating poor brother's & encourage peaceful working relationship with peace loving people of Mindanao HE is fueling it with his DOGMA & IGNORANCE.
purehuman 1 year ago
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@warnation101 then, what are you doing?
bacaca88 10 months ago
MILF doesn't represents the Moro or the Muslim people in Mindanao. They are just fighting for their own interests!
warnation101 1 year ago
AlJazeera is very biased!
warnation101 1 year ago
@jckypton look buddy one on one why not that would be my pleasure..
ian7667 1 year ago
this chairman is a fucking faggot! u dont make any sense wat u fighting for.. u could suck my dick mother fucker..
ian7667 1 year ago
@ian7667 drunk?
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
@ian7667 try saying that in his face, and infront of all his brothers and people.
jckrypton 1 year ago
nawala na yata si tatang..baka wala na pambayad sa internet..jejejje
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
@huanthamad I just spent 1 hour reading all exchanges on this thread after travelling for 9 weeks in places that you should see. It is a real shame that you cannot put your efforts into making peace, because I am sure that you have much to contribute to over and above criticising the Moro for everything and feeling bitter. I am afraid that you are one of the victims of conflict brought upon the area by previous governments and colonialists in the region.
bacaca88 1 year ago
have mutual dialogue as part of solution, observe mutual respect to understand each point of view
thelastmoro 1 year ago
@thelastmoro he spoke in that way...i just play with the game he wanted...
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
he can not learn because he think that he is smarter to anyone and he know everything...he intimated everyone who argue with him, he call extremist those who defend their right.. he want to defame every facts against him and against to his bias claims...then what is the use of mutual dialogue with this kind of creature?
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
@Theacorda
just Read it man, start from the Start. Ive got nothing to hide. All my comments are there for people like you to see. i never deleted on thats the Whole point.
well, the Insults started with Her and youd see During the course of the arguement time and time again, she insults me and my ancestors.
While me my self are just bringing them back.
It would have Ended up in this if she didnt insult me to Begin With.
huanthamad 1 year ago
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jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
@huanthamad how can you managed to say i started the dirty conversation when you intimidate everyone who spoke against you and your bias beliefs..
you claims to be smarter than everyone who argue you..you insulted them..you intimidate them..
you've mentioned a lot of insults..dirty and unacceptable word..at the end of the line you claimed to be innocent? lol..you are not just a stupid genius but a great liar and pretender if not a hypocrite..
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jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
@huanthamad if you think that i will be frighted by your technical terms, and i can not understand it..please change you mode. that is so common and beside...even if u use a deepest word..i can still search it from the net.. so your aim to frighten me is not working..
it just made me funny every time that there are someone who claims to be smarter and sophisticated but he is just a funny clown n d eye of other..
lol...lol...lol...lol!~
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
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@huanthamad nice self defense actualy...hahaha.. we knew how you sabotaged the topic starting from one jumping to another.. it is expected for me to gain a lot of inflammatory accusation from you..so it doesn't matter to me..
well anyway..
regarding your ancestor..
you have been assaulting my religion and my nationality continuously trough bias accusation.. when you assault my religion..it is worse than you assault my ancestor and my family.. so for Christ sake...do not pretend as a victim.
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
@jesusChrist30001
You can Go fool your Self all you want, but youd acutally be Lying to your self not me.
huanthamad 1 year ago
@Theacorda
yeah JesusChrist30001 is an MILF supporter trying to get back at me.
huanthamad 1 year ago
Just read the Arguements, youd Realised.
he/she got pwned as Sammanth9000 and then waited a few months to get back at me, creating a new account and posing as a "non bias anti-extrimist" which was not supported by his/her first 2 comments that, Insulted me and my Ancestors.
its funny and it defies logic. and for the Past few Days ive been playing Tetrist with Sammanth9000 brain.
Just read and youd Get the Idea
huanthamad 1 year ago
GOING back to your ancestor, if a certain group will fight with the enemy against his brothers, just to absorb the power can be taken from the enemy, thinking that the enemy has a higher class, a powerful class of the people, a good people..a civilized people compare to his brothers? and accept the new coming religion in order to live?
TRAITOR?
COWARD?
POWER ORIENTED?
no! not just that but they are also a MORALE DEFEATED.
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
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jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
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where am i for d past 10 years? that must be 2000 maybe. actually our house was made of woods..an indigenous house...not made of rock.
Muslims and Christians have a good relations? the Rise of Extremism, sectarianism?
"once again, if we extend to d history, the starting point of the war here in Mindanao is not because being sectarianism by the Muslims, the reason is the illegal and force annexation of the Moro homeland".
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
@huanthamad "Muslims along side people of other Religions are being Victimized by Muslim Fundamentalist who Idealized and part of that Ideology is Sectarianism a Perverted Islamic View on Society"? actually this irrational, illogical and totally not significant to the Mindanao issue.
once again, if we extend to d history, the starting point of the war here in Mindanao is not because being sectarianism by the Muslims, the reason is the illegal and force annexation of the Moro homeland.
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
@jesusChrist30001
ACTUALLY IT IS SIGNIFICANT in the Issues MINDANAO FACE.
Where have you LIVED for the Past 10 years ? Under a ROCK.
Muslims and Christians in the Philippines have had Good Relationships for a very long time, with no problems. however with the Rise of Extremism in the Muslim population, it had forced Christians and people of other Religions to be warry of the Situation, Giving rise to Mistrust and sectarian Divide with in the populance.
huanthamad 1 year ago
and that Divide is what Muslim Extremist such as Your self, are Using to distance Muslims from Christians, Jews, Buddist and people of Other Religion.
However This Divide Does not only Occur in places such as Mindanao, it also occurs in other Countries such as Thailand and most important of all Indonesia.
I just Dont know how stupid you are. but i can guess you are as Stupid as the MILF and Abu Sayaf.
huanthamad 1 year ago
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you are trying to gather a lot of bad literature against Muslims purposely to jump to the conclusion that Muslim is like this and like that, that doesn't have a legitimate claim to their home land...
you avoid using history, why? instead ur using "Illogical, Irrational, Prejudicial, Discriminatory, Hateful and most of all IGNORANT view against Muslims.
i regard to the history of your tribe, i know it is hard for you to accept that.
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
@jesusChrist30001
I guess judging from your Grammar that you are Nomore just like Sammantha9000, a Pathetic Scum of the Earth.
LOL READ, dont you know how to Read? atleast learn to Comprehend.
if you are Sammanth9000 you are a Compulsive Lier. it Shows in your Comments. Trying to Mislead people. just like what you did before (in referrence to your usage of the Geneva Convention.
Let me Walk you through that particular Quote.
huanthamad 1 year ago
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I said:
"What you have Displayed by CALLING my ancestors NAMES and PRESUMING their HISTORY is A Sectarianistic Prejudicial view,
SOMETHING THAT I, THROUGHOUT THIS ARGUEMENT HAD POINTED OUT.
a View that YOU share with the MILF, MNLF and Abu Sayaf.
Illogical, Irrational, Prejudicial, Descrimatory, Hateful and most of all IGNORANT view on society."
huanthamad 1 year ago
Is it LOGICAL to say that your Ancestors are Cowards with outknowing who they are?
Is it RATIONAL to Preasume their History without Knowing them? accusing them of holding their hands up to Christianity.?
Is it not PREJUDICIAL to call my Ancestors Cowards just because they Converted to Christianity?
Is it thoes HATEFUL and IGNORANT?
NOW TELL ME WAS THAT AN ACCUSSATION AIMED TOWARDS MUSLIMS ?
Because if you can Actually read ITS AN ACCUSSATION towards YOU!
huanthamad 1 year ago
YOU come as LOW as deleting your Hateful comments so that nobody could Referrence at them.
but one thing is Apperent you Wrote thoes Comments because Youtube keeps track of the Comments being sent.
as people would read My comment and Compare them to your REMOVED COMMENTS you'd realised that they are more likely to agree to me, than to a COWARD such as your self.
Tell me Are your Ancestors Cowards?, coz you sure have gotten that PATHETIC Trait From them.
huanthamad 1 year ago
@huanthamad why dont you focus on discussing d root of the problem instead of talking a lot of non sense against me?
Tell me Are your Ancestors Cowards? i dont hav even 1 ancestor who betray his fellow Moros during the time of colonizer. They fought against the spaniards, 2 defend their homeland and religion...with out even fear of death.. can u call them coward?
while chabacano tribe? tel me wht they did?
they embraced christianity n order to survive against d brutality of the spaniards.
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
@huanthamad if you say Muslim and christian has a good relation..yeah maybe you r right, but if you say..the rise of extremist is the source of the problem, i hope you know that this war has started since 300 years ago..during the time of Spanish colonization,followed by the American invasion..Japanese and GRP force annexation of the Bangsamaoro homeland.
the rise of extremist, terrorist, fundamentalist, etc. is just a fruit of force annexation of the Moro homeland
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
@jesusChrist30001 i am constantly saying that the root of the problem is the force annexation of the Moro homeland.
in 1450-1520..there is no war here in Mindanao or all over the country.
it just started on 1521 during the time of Spaniards till 1898 during American war.
followed by 1935-57 brutal resettlement under P.Magsaysay.
there is no MNLF/MILF/ABUSAYAF or any extremist group at that time.
MNLF was founded only during the time of P>Marcos when he massacred the 68 moro trainee.
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
@jesusChrist30001 this war is continues from the time of Spaniards until now. how can you blame the MILF who just existed only 40 years ago while this war started almost 300-400 years?
once again...it is very clear clear that the reason of this war is not the MILF/MNLF/ABUSAYAF/ and not me..
The reason is the illegal, the brutal and the continues annexation of the bangsamoro home land.
we dont need to jump to another country in order to comprehend the situation..just read the history..
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
@jesusChrist30001
How RETARDED can you get ? VERY.
So you judge my Ancestors Based on their Religion?
Tell me Is that RIGHT?
If I judged the Moro people with Likes of you Do you think thats Approriate?
and Judging from your Bullshit story You dont even know anything about how Tribal Societies works.
Peaceful my ass.
Do you think There werent any Land Disputes in Mindanao in the Pre-Spanish Era ?
Do you Think Everyone Worshiped Islam before the Spaniards Came ?
huanthamad 1 year ago
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS !
huanthamad 1 year ago
If You wana go to the Root then We shall. go to the Roots of Philippine History.
I hope you listened to your HEKASI teacher, or SIBIKA (judging from you intellect your lower than a grade one pupil)
Before Islam the Whole of South East Asia, worshiped an Animistic Religion.
NOT ISLAM.
the First religions of Come out off this Animistic era, was BUDDHISM and HINDUISM.
Still NOT ISLAM.
huanthamad 1 year ago
Buddhism and Hiduism, were then Accompanied by Taoism and other Native SE Asian Religions.
but Soon after the 10th century Islam Arrived via Traders who would have only traded with people with knowledge of islam. They convinced people that their Religion is better than any of the others. and sold the Idea of a Monistic Religion to the Natives.
huanthamad 1 year ago
and the Benefits of having this Religion includes
Trade and Economic Wealth (Because Muslim take priority to trade with other Muslims).
Prestige being Granted by the title of Datu. (because from wealth comes Power)
Authority to thoes who follows the Datu. (Men who converts to Islam because their Master tells them too)
This Society is a Feudal Society driven only by a Higherarchy. Positively enforced by wealth and negatively enforced by the lack of trade and economical income.
huanthamad 1 year ago
and It doesnt Take a Genius to figured out that with the Title of Datu and that Persons Allegiance to Islam, a Datu has the Mission to Spread Islam as a Religion and convert as Many people as Possible to his Religion and with the prospects of Expanding his Land.
He Counquers other Tribes Converting them or Killing them In the Process. taking Land and Commodities along the way.
this Systematic Conflicts rise to Other Conflicts. till the whole Region is predominantly Muslim.
huanthamad 1 year ago
however Even with the knowledge that Everyone in the Area is Muslim. one thing still is On going. and that is the Conflict between the different Clans that rule the Regions.
these Clans now do not Compete to convert but to claim Land. and Because Buddism and Hinduism as a Religion is now almost Non-existent in South East Asia. the People of the Region did not have an Alternative Religion to Convert to.
the Countless years of Fighting even with Islam as a Common Religion Disenchants people.
huanthamad 1 year ago
the Disenchantment in the religion of Islam is caused by the conflict that rises from the Land Disputes and Disagreements between the Different Clans and Tribes that exist in that Particular Region.
for short Islam as a Religion of Peace, isnt Delivering Peace yet it is Used as an Excuse to Further war. As Humans do with Religions.
along this time the Spaniards come and brought with them another Religion. a Religion way Before Islam. Christianity.
huanthamad 1 year ago
Christianity as a Religion was Older than Islam. This Fact Convinced most Natives to take in o consideration Christianity as a Religion.
however the most realistically pleasing proposition which came with Christianity is Love and Tolerance. Something that people of that region longed for.
To understand the Psyche of the Spaniards. Spanish History should be Taken in to Consideration.
huanthamad 1 year ago
Spain as a Nation was Conquered by the Moors, an Islamic Tribe composed of Arabs, North Africans and Berbers.
and They as a Tribe didnt exactly Treat Spain any better than the Visigoths German Tribes that Previously Ruled.
with Islam ruling Spain. Jews, Christians and people of Other Religions had to Pay Extremely High Taxes than ther Muslim counterparts and be bound by Islamic Law. Something that Conflict with their own Personal Religions and Views.
huanthamad 1 year ago
With a History such as Spains it is No wonder that they Try to do what the Deemed right. Claim the Region which is Now the Philippines and Rid of the Moors, which are the Moros.
You didnt know that did you?
So let Recap.
the First Religions in the Malay peninsula was Animism.
the ones that Came After was Hinduism and Buddhism.
Islam came Later
and Christianity came Last.
huanthamad 1 year ago
the Reason for the people Conversion to Christianity was because of the Never ending Conflicts of Feudal Islamic Society.
which Gave Rise to the Disenchantment of the People in the Religion of Islam.
Opting them to Look for other ways of worship Conviniently Brought Forth by the Spanish.
Who Subsequently was Conquered by the Islamic tribe of Moors.
Which leads them to Hate people who worship Islam. Hence the Harsh Treatment and Systematic Conlonization.
huanthamad 1 year ago
Now Do you UNDERSTAND ?
READ it properly.
and Use a Dictionary (if you dont know how to use a Dictionary Ask me, ill give you the definition and explain what it means in layman)
copy and paste it and Show it to a Teacher.
ask them about
Feudal Society
Tribal Interactions
Islamic Imperialism
then Reply.
huanthamad 1 year ago
@huanthamad first of all, your technical terms is not deep enough to use dictionary.
about the animist, Taoist, Maoist,Buddhist religions...i am also aware of that.
and i believe also that Christianity is more than 600 years ahead of Islam.
yeah, as you said Islam was spread by some Islam preacher at d same time a trader trough Peace. and it was accepted by the people. compare to the Christianity brought by the Spaniards who used bible and sword to spread Christianity..
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
Islam trough Muhamad was originated from Saudi Arabia and it was spread all over d world trough conquest as it was sabotage by some Arabs who has a politically motivated lyk Ottoman empire, and descendants of salahuddin who invaded Spain (ghazwat al andalus). Islam was used by a lot of people who want to establish power in a certain place, in a modern time..lyk taleban organized by Usama ben laden.
it was spread also trough peaceful means like sharif al makhdum, sharif kabungsuan & ibnu batuta.
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jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
same situation in Philippines, there are some people who embrace Islam as it was the existing and dominant religion in Asia..but majority of the Moro has accept this by faith in fact they sacrifice their life to defend it from the Christianity.
Islam must be spread out trough peaceful mean like what this people did.
either we accept it or not...Islam was brought here trough peaceful means and majority of the country was a Muslim...from Luzon to Mindanao.
so that was about Islam..
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
to respond from your accusation against the datus about feudalism and killing of those who doesn't convert to Islam, i heard that trough my grand father.
but i think, you over generalizing it.
if we go back to the book of HKS, there are somethings they called INCOMeNDA which is the vast hectares of Lands was owned by certain Spanish officer or owned by d church..it was energized by so called forced labor which the force the indios (filipinos) to work. same thing with the datus...
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
about killing of those who wont accept Islam..i guess it is funny, i totally for got the proper texts and page but it was wrote in the book of Philippine history authored by Zonia Zaide that the natives (filipinos) from manila, visayas has no other option but to accept Christianity to save the life of their family as christian Spaniards will kill those who wont accept Christianity. there are some who remain Islam, they went to the mountain to save their religion..
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
what problem i am talking about is the War between Philippine and the Moro people not that tiny feudal conflict..every where in this earth has a problem like that in the ancient time.
we will go back to the question again that what is the reason and why there is a war between Philippines and the MOro people? and please based it on Philippine history not on anti Muslim gathering data from the outside.
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
@jesusChrist30001
You said
"what problem i am talking about is the War between Philippine and the Moro people not that tiny feudal conflict..every where in this earth has a problem like that in the ancient time"
What Do you Think Started the War? You Said it your self Christianity Brought fourth By Spain Started the Conflict.
Sammantha9000 And i Know its you. Your Pathetic, No matter what you Do. You cant Hide the Fact that you are IGNORANT, PREJUDICIAL LIER.
huanthamad 1 year ago
Only an Idiot would Class Maoist Ideology as a Medival Religion, and Claim that they are Aware of the Regions History ?
Pathetic, That alone Proves that Your uninformed and IGNORANT.
You propose your Own versions of History Blocking the others.
You Demonized Spain for being Harsh to the Moro people of the Philippines yet Know Nothing about their History. and How they were Conquered by Moors and Treated the same way.
Face it You are IGNORANT.
huanthamad 1 year ago
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You try to in to just the Philippines while disreagrding the fact that Philippines Used to be Part of the Indo-Malay Region of SE Asia.
Yet you havent Even Answered any Of My Questions.
You should Be ashamed of your self.
What i have been laying out On you isnt, "Anti-Muslim", but basic History of the Islam World.
You cant Denie that. Because Muslims Them Selves Write them down and are Proud of it.
huanthamad 1 year ago
ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!
Copy each Questions down and Answer THEM !
huanthamad 1 year ago
@jesusChrist30001
The Datu's Conquest, Cannot be Generalized.
Infact this Feudal Disputes is Still Going on Till today.
Excellent Examples Can be Seen in Afgan Society, Where Warlords still Govern Society.
This Feudal way of thinking can also be Seen in the MILF, MNLF and Abu Sayaf, the way the Commanders Govern Their Men and Land.
huanthamad 1 year ago
However with a Convergence to Christianity, Muslim warlords loose their Authority over these people and Their Land. hence Lose their Prestige and Power
Its all about how Society Changes and how these people could not Change.
The commanders in the MILF and Abu Sayaf are Nomore Noless than Warlords.
This is Proven By this Video, where it emphasises the Lack of Leadership with in the MILF organization. (Because it is Made up of Different WARLORDS)
huanthamad 1 year ago
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jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
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@huanthamad Dou you know Ali rahman lahmuddin, an Islamic scholar and at d same time preacher who convinced a lot of people to accept Islam without even fighting?
Seihk Sudais. Who use peaceful way of preaching in order to propagate and to spread Islam. They are not just thousands but millions of missionaries. Not a traders
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
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jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
People Accepted Christianinty (Christianity) because its Offered more Promising Prospects than Islam, as Well as the fact that it was a Mush Older Religion than Islam.
As I said, Christianity was existed some 600 years ahead of Islam. It was started in Canaan by the people who follow Jesus the son of Marry (Peace be upon them), now known as Palestine. To Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, turkey. It was extended to rome by the self anointed apostle. St. Paul, To Rome..
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
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@huanthamad THAT IS FALSE.
Lol the Spread of Islam in Europe was NOT Peaceful,
i hope you know what is the ottoman Empire i have cited in my previous comment.
Ottoman Empire is a product of Mongolian Muslim converts who invaded Persia and some Arab land like Egypt.
Like Spain, the Invasion of Europe was politically motivated. about land, territory and power by the people who take advantage d name of religion 2 gain power. the result is hatred among the people who was victim of that oppression.
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
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@jesusChrist30001
MY GOD. ALLAH in your Case.
YOUR A COWARD.
Face it ANSWER MY QUESTIONS.
huanthamad 1 year ago
@huanthamad You Talk about how you know More Than I do when it comes to Islamic History of Indo-Malaya Peninsula.
Talked About the Spanish and Christianity being Harsh and Evil.
Yet you Do not See the Evil in Islam.
Double Standards?
You Cover your Eyes in the Things you deemed Unpleasant for your View. yet Your open to Criticise (critisize) other People, Religions and Societies?
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
@jesusChrist30001 i am against feudalism. i am against extremism, i am against d brutal spreading of religion..but that is not an excuse to jump to the story of Muslims invasion in Africa, Persia, Europe and Asia
leaving out the dreadful history of Spanish colonization here in our homeland.
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
@jesusChrist30001
LOL You Brought Spain up as a Referrence of a "Christian Inavsion"
Yet you dont want be To bring up "Islamic Invasions" other Nations?
huanthamad 1 year ago
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Double Standards is Something Idiots do to try to Cover Their IGNORANCE.
IGNORANT FOOL
If you Didnt want your Ego hurt, then You Shouldnt Have Argued.
How Many times Have you Claimed that I didnt know anything?
And Howmany times did i Prove you Wrong?
Countless. and everytime you Shown to be IGNORANT.
and the Mechnism that you Use all the time a to set up Double Standards.
Pathetic and Futile.
huanthamad 1 year ago
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jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
now..let us leave Spain..what about the crusaders who kills thousands of people inside the city of Jerusalem, Crusaders is a brutal religious army worse than the barbarians although they have good combat skill...(modern time) the situation of Chechnya Muslims inside the Soviet territory, Bosnia, and plus the political war..Japan vs. US. Soviet vs. Allied. US vs. Great. Britain...haha, anyway this is a christian against christian war.. like Iraq and iran war..that's fair enough?
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@jesusChrist30001
lol your just Despirate now, your so pathetic its Invelivable. but still ill take that up. because I actually know alot about Both World Wars.
And for the Record Spain was Neutral in both World Wars.
So the World Wars, Still didnt have anything to do with Spain.
huanthamad 1 year ago
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jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
the Era of the Crusade was an Era of Ignorance from all Three Religions.
Muslims, Jews and Christians were all being Victimised.
It all Starts with Muslim Pilgrims. For years Muslims had Set out on Pilgramages in Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem.
Under the Dome of the Rock, once was a Sacred Site for all of the Three religions.
For Christians and Jews it was the Proof of the Existance of the Kindom of David.
and For the Muslims it was said to be where Mohammad went to heaven.
huanthamad 1 year ago
at first there was No conflict, and Everyone didnt have a Problem about other Religions Pilgrimaging it.
Before the Dome, the Jews Built a temple there where Everybody could Freely go In and Out, with greater Emphasis on Respect.
However when it was Destroyed by the Roman Seige of Jerusalem.
Then in 637 CE muslims of the Rashid Caliphate Army Conquered Jersualem along Side their Conquest of Syria.
Yes, out of the 3 religions the Muslims Conquered it First.
huanthamad 1 year ago
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and Built the Dome in the Temple Mount.
And by Islamic Law Noone but a Muslim can Enter the Mosque.
Leaving just a Wall for the Jews and Nothing for the Christians.
and There you go, the Rest is History.
People have Been Fighting for it and the Land around it ever Since.
To be Fair, it was Kinda Greedy to Leave the Jews Half of a Wall and Christians with Nothing.
huanthamad 1 year ago
i hope you'll read all my comments 1 after 1..then i am waiting for your harsh comments against me...a stupid..ignorant..poor in grammar. poor in spelling.low level of i.q..idiot..etc..
but my blood is pure Moro.. you know what i mean? my ancestor has managed 2 defend d dignity of my tribe..they are not cowards..they doesn't allow the Spanish to govern them..to use them against their fellow Moro. they fought against Americans& Japanese 2 defend their identity as a free Moro..i am proud 4 that
jesusChrist30001 1 year ago
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@jesusChrist30001
Wow Harsh Comments Against you?
How about When you Called my Ancestors Coward ? Wasnt That Harsh ?
Again Double Standards.