Tales of Symphonia 2 - Boss: Lloyd (Unknown Mode)

[kingofthering24]

What is unknown mode?

[Theguybelowmeiscool]

@kingofthering24 It's the highest? difficulty in a Tales game.

[Mariokemon]

The monster u have looks like noishe

[Demonboy190]

Even if you beat Lloyd, he somehow defeats in the short amount of time it takes to look at what you got for beating him.

[OmegaZ0153]

Nice work on this battle. You did a lot better than I did. I did manage to defeat Lloyd on Mania with a Korrigan and a Medusa in their LV. 70's, but he still almost destroyed me numerous times. Looks like you transferred Artes... I only transferred skills.

[stefano98]

Lol same here omega XD the only thing im doing now on my second playthrough us that i got more grade my monsters back and like im playing it on mania im just scared that once i geting endgame it might get really hard e.e oh btw is orion really worth it?

[iEviLxHD]

i let my monsters take care of it and the sword dancer does some great work against lloyd and i have 2 of them

[darkzero16]

Wow hes lv 100. How he go down 50 lvs by the time he joins the team and refuses to lv up again is beyond me.

[lippychapped]

Lloyd was over there merkin everyone

[Chriszeo]

wow. thx stayles. im almost done my 3'rd playthrough and i didnt know that. lol [i beat him this way too. along with all the richter and brute battles lol]

[stayles1990]

Is that a Noishe monster?

[MidnightCrysweet]

can you plz tell me what button you pressed to see Lloyds HP?

[stayles1990]

@MidnightCrysweet Hold some seconds the "-" Button!

[Breezyfeather]

@MidnightCrysweet the minus button. hold it down for a second and the battle will pause, showing you the hp stats and stuff of the enemy. If you press it again you can see other enemies. Just make sure you hold it down.

[SaintRapier]

Since when the fuck did this game become a better version of pokémon

And when did Lloyd stop sounding like Robin from Teen Titans?

[01linkitewolf]

ahahaha XD MARTA: YOU'LL NEVER GET AWAY FROM ME THOUGH

EMIL:I'M SO SCREWED

[oriramu]

Thats a whole lotta Gald IoI.

[TesunaKun]

your monsters are so weak D:

[MegusNeko]

Even tho u win, u still lose xD

[Lumunocte]

I did this with new game plus with a Gale spirit and a Ruskalka (sp) I trained them several times to the point of taking a huge bite out of Lloyd's life each time they cast a high level spell (Cyclone/ Blessed Drops)

Since Lloyd is so fast though, Blessed drops was really hard to hit with lol. but it would take 3/4 of his health XD

[Pyromaniac1230]

0:50

Emil: "Demon Fang"

Lloyd: "Demon Fang!"

Emil: "Demon Fang!!!"

[BlitzerBoom]

It's actually a really bad idea to defeat Lloyd, since it'll cripple Marta's stats since you can't change her title until after this fight.

Of course, that assumes you're on new game plus. but if you're not you're not likely to be able to defeat Lloyd anyways.

[Kolinichu]

@BlitzerBoom

Just let Marta dies.. she won't level up... but Emil will :D

[rpggame16]

"He who runs away lives to fight another day." Thats so true!

[ganonslayer01]

I beat him by using my level 100 Fenrir.

[kamikazelun]

@ganonslayer01 I did the same with my fenrir and a Hydra in the team with level 100 and 10x experience they gain the level 24 in that level (emil and marta)

[espeon2020]

How do you get unknown?

[JianfeiZ]

rofl lvl 4 to lvl 24 in one battle e.e

[karinvampiregirl]

lolz it looks like Noishe up there! lolz that's so ironic Noishe fighting Llyod XD Noishe is so cute I love him^^

[L33tub3rpwn3r]

Suddenly, SHINING BIND!

[oflari]

im sorry, dad?

[kailan121]

Aww.. it's so sad when Lloyd says "I'm sorry.. dad.." :'( makes me want Kratos to come and avenge Lloyd with Judgement/Shining Bind xP

[ArmyxBoy]

that guy emil has the same voice as renton from eureka seven

[GRIM1000Eyes]

how do you get over lvl 100 monsters mine all cap and then if i evolve them they go back to the first form.

[xV13TxB01x]

@GRIM1000Eyes The more you evolve them, the higher the level they can expand to. Mines expanded over 100.

[GIJoke666]

no, actually some monsters cap at 100, some few (most of em are statue evolved monsters) may get up to 200.

some even cap at lvl 50, just get a list of the monsters with max lvl info using google, then you know which monster you could use that reach a higher level ^^

[GRIM1000Eyes]

ok thanx man I can't believe I've played through the game like 5 times and never figured that out :P

[sheimisheimi1]

lol Frank?

[dexlezhermit]

imagine that exp on 10x thats like 820k exp wich takes you to around 50(?)

tried on unknown mode myself and even demonfang one shotted me >:> i had lvl 12X monsters

[Warriorsfan354]

(Sigh) Why can't he be this strong when you get him. But pwning him in your second playthrough with monsters really is fun! PAYBACK!

[Mocolashandaful]

i dont have unknow mode yet cant w8 to get it

[SkyArchangel]

Why must we fight for Lloyd?

[noob1n8or]

OWNED!

PWNED!

NOMED!

[Doron101]

Ha who says you have to lose to Lloyd when you face him. Nice monsters and well done.

[ViniGameMaker]

lol i'm sorry dad!

[KristyLovinKandy]

o man. the first time i went against lloyd, i died in one hit! O.O'''

[MetalBirdProductions]

howd u skip the cutscene?

[Lertic]

You have to press A+B

[Dsurvivor21stCentury]

"Be grateful" That is the badass that emil should've been all the way through, not the over apologetic 16 year old who somehow still has a prepubescent voice

[AZNSensation92]

noishe!!!!

[Flinko2009]

Wow this was good

[markquinn111]

why did Lloyd's own dog attack him?

[MegaManZero120]

That's NOT Noishe, it's a monster that resembles him.

[gorillazhead]

@MegaManZero120 It's the same species of monster, just not Lloyds pet.

[MegaManZero120]

@gorillazhead It's directly stated that Noishe is an ancient species that takes thousands of years to evolve, taking a completely different form each time. I think it's safe to say that they're not the same species.

[CrusaderNova]

@MegaManZero120

[jefftheposter]

@MegaManZero120 no its noishe on digimon crack

[dmanman1233]

lloyd is still the best

[MEGAGUY21]

i get why you "loss" in this fight

it because if you win.....MR.HAXS THROW A COMPUTER SCREEN AT YOU!!!11!!1!!!!!

(lol gmod movies ref)

[RichterFan989]

its one of those fights it doesnt matter if you prevail or not , the cutscene after it wil be the same, it just you get extra exp and stuff for coming out ahead.

[MEGAGUY21]

well i knew that i was just joking with that comment

...no one seem to like that joke tho :(

[darkgranddragon]

Lloyd is a haxxor that bastard in tos1

i got him to 9999 hp that frowne face

X(

[sbaster]

time to call dr.hax

XD

[Demonhuntr27]

how are you a low lvl but your monsters are high lvls?

[linkman355]

i think you can transfer your creatures to a new slot idk watch his ending or something

[Chuchixx99]

because you monsters get higher lvls faster that you and also dont evolve them cuz they will get higher'

[exendom]

2nd playthrough

[RichterFan989]

because once the game is completed you have an option , provided you gain enough grade,to access the grade shop, where you can get various things like more 2exp,start off with more hp, retain monster titles,and or recipes,as well as keep all the gald you earned this time around, once you have settle on any options you wish to add,say your done and any of those things you highlighted will be added to your second playthrough, and so that how you get superstrong monsters to pwn lloyd to the ground.

[stupogo0]

holy *** i need to get some strong monsters on my second playthought with 10EPX

[williamgayable]

u saw all those 1 damage cause i did

[kiskameliska]

How do you check the levels of your opponents? o.o And jeez he was lvl 100 on this? I got bored one day and let my lvl 50 and lvl 83 monsters kill him.. took more time of course though. xD

[DestyRS]

Press and hold the (-) button.

[Abyssion888]

Noishe is currently an Arshis protozoan.

[KiraTsukasa1986]

Oh, no, I remember that. But if you recall the conversation correctly, Noishe's next form would be of a human that fights evil. That's quite clearly not a human. And anyway, that's an Orion, while Noishe's current form was called...Aphis, if I spelled that correctly. Regardless, Noishe DOES appear in the game and he doesn't look like that. And if that doesn't convince you, Noishe runs away from monsters, not fight them.

[deathray797]

So Lloyd is now a monster?

[000000looky]

@deathray797

He's a boss your NOT supposed to kill. (on the first playthrough of course xD)

But since he did a new game+ and kept his monsters from his old game, the monsters do insane dmg on him.

[deathray797]

@000000looky i know.. it was a joke..

[KiraTsukasa]

That's not Noishe? Damn...

*prods Noishe*

Do something useful for a change!

[supersonicwarrior55]

i'm sorry......dad...

[xXChaseDaAceXx]

how did you get unknown mode? all i can get is mania

[Tsunaphoenix3]

You clear the game on Mania (before fighting any battle, mania MUST be turned on)

[stupogo0]

3rd playthought

[ihavemadskillzzzzzz]

I went from level 5 to level 31 after this battle...Of course, I was on 10x EXP

[inoluvshikamaru]

lol, usually in fights like these, the battle gets interrupted... xD

[GeradGerard]

haha wat i thought was kinda retarded though is how even after u win, the game still thinks as if u lost and that lloyd won easily.

[MeowMatsumie]

unknown mode is just like, realllly hard isn't it?

[Samusbobs]

Raine: I need to analyze that battle.

RM Emil: Who cares? You win a battle on instinct.

Genis: (snickers) Stupid Neanderthal.

RM Emil: What did you say?!

Marta: That's not true! Emil is just stupid!

RM Emil: Ah-da...I'M NOT STUPID!!!!

(Heard at the end of a battle, b4 a pact is forged)

[Samusbobs]

What the heck?! How'd you skip te scene??!

[timtimtimmaah]

press a and b together

[toonstrick32]

Coolness!!! Noishe actually fights

[timtimtimmaah]

it looks like Noishe but that was actually a monster called Orion; it evolves from a light elemental beast which evolves from a wolf

[Animeforever15]

Just like the orion, the Simurgh (birdy with same colors of orion) you need the same things to synthesize it to aracrum( i believe that's how it's spelled) wings and equip it to your raven. That's what i did anyway.

[Animeforever15]

even if i win, hearing "i'm sorry...dad" doesn't make it a very celebraty mood. D=

[shadowtTl]

the easiest way to get the philsophers stone:

when you have collete in your party, you have to go to the temple of lightning then go the machine with the yellow blocks in the back. When you do it wrong a monster will attack you. Sometimes this monster is a gaint chimera, now steal with collete's item thief the philsophers stone from the chimera.

[timtimtimmaah]

or use marta's phoenix thingy attack on it, that steals stuff too

[cyclonegale]

u also find philsophers stonee by doing master rank in meltokio's tornament

[lilshokan]

as well stealing one from ricther

[timtimtimmaah]

r u serious! that is awesome!

[FateOfTime]

+20 lvl!!???

[ninjamonkey8]

how can u get unkown mode

[MegaMythix]

Beat Mania 1st I Think.

[Samusbobs]

Actually, fight a whole playthrough on Hard OR Mania, and NEVER switch. You must keep playng on one or the other to acquire it. If you EVER go back to Normal on a playthrough, you lose Unknown.

[xComputer2musicgeekx]

Seeing as how there is a lot of confusion on obtaining the Orion, I'll try to explain. First, you need a Wolf. You need to level it up to 24, nothing less because that's the level you need to evolve it into a Padfoot. Now just level up the Padfoot, and get a Feral Shadow statue. To get it, you need Ogre's Blood, Evil Eye, Philosopher's Stone, and a Quality Stone. To get the Ogre's Blood, it's a drop from Ogres. Evil Eye is a drop from a Basilisk, Moon Rock, or Echidna.

[xComputer2musicgeekx]

To get the Philisopher's Stone, there are multiple methods, like stealing it from bosses, drops from bosses, and certain chests across the game. The Quality Stone is also a drop, and an item you can get in the Ice Fishing Minigame. Note that all of the items can be acquired through A-S ranked missions. When you have all the items, go to synthesize the Quality Stone and pick the Feral Shadow.

[xComputer2musicgeekx]

After that, equip it to the Padfoot, and if you feed it, (Of course only if it's Lv 30 or higher) then the option for the Orion should be available and not blacked out. After that, have fun with your Orion.

[ppowerman1]

that water monster was insanely strong, its splash did almost 20,000 damage

[Eternium00]

Dude. You just denied Lloyd trying to kick yer ass. NICE! lol

[Fragbug]

Why do I find Lloyd's pose when he gets hit very funny and awkward?

[cabalk1]

i beat the game and i couldnt start over wit any of my profile how do i

[windknight111]

How is there a Noishe wanna be there???

[Celvin33]

Thats not NOishe

[flickersowner]

that is a creature called Orion. Noishe was obviously evolved to become that monster. Which is why they looked alike

[windknight111]

Cool. Thanks For Clearing That Up.

[moomaxx]

noishe? whys he fighting llyod lol

[kratorions]

yay u take the same way as me to kill him!omg i was so laughing when i saw that my monster were the same lvl as when ive finish the game for the first time lol.good vid man!

[ImGoing2MarsXD]

to omega's description

oh 10 secs? you think thats bad, try playing through for the first time and just have all ur party members including yourself rush at him at once and lloyd doing beast on all of you on the very first second the fight starts.

geez idk wuts more embarrassing, that or despite the fact that even if you do beat him, he still kicks ur ass offscreen. man lloyds changed these pasts years. changing from a gentle, idealistic, dumbass into a wise, kratos role replacing pimp.

[mo0o]

sorry if this is a nub question, but how do you get your monsters past level 100?

[JUWON4LIFE]

how the crap are your monsters that strong?!

[Eternium00]

It's the third Playthrough. there's an option you can choose with your grade to let you keep the monster levels the same I think... Dont know.

[oirald]

wow, I beat lloyd with a 10x exp multiplier and I didn't lvl up 20 friggin times

[Nightwolf541]

Dam -.- the max of the 3 monsters I train the most is only lv 100 :(

[ChiyoMihama]

Holy crap, GRADE. xDD

Good work ( '_' )b

[Tedikiller]

LoL dude i was rooting for lloyd the whole time, but lloyd's my dog, you cant beat the original =P

[YuseiStardust]

how do you skip cutscenes

[furyberserk]

B button if you aren't playing.

[XmasterlinkxX]

how did you hold 29 life bottles? i can only hold 20

[waldoperson]

After you beat the game you can buy it in the grade shop

[furyberserk]

Beat the game. Grade points. 30 items.

[ShaowNecroX101]

Grade shop.

[sebitecs69]

wtf

need this game :(

[NekoMageLycra]

Wgere did you get the huge dog

[waldoperson]

you have to level up a wolf to a hell hound then a padfoot then get a statue to level it up in to that

[galboil]

isn't it from wolf to padfoot directly?

[waldoperson]

i dont think so.

[narutosasuke1512]

no. The wolfs chain is Wolf-Black Wolf-Fenrir repeat. To get padfoot i think you have to befriend him in battle

[shadowtTl]

Wolf Lv.10 => Black Wolf Lv.26 => Fenrir

Wolf Lv.22 => Hell Hound Lv.25 => Cerberus

Wolf Lv.24 => Padfoot Lv.30 => Orion

[narutosasuke1512]

nah you have to befriend padfoot wolf doesnt evolve into hell hound

[furyberserk]

Upgrade. Synthesize. Evolve.

[leftunder334]

OWNED

[Animeforever15]

how come i can't make my wolf into the orion??? it says it but you can't  click it..

[FalconX56]

Its because you need a statue to evolve it its called feral shadow you have to synthesize it.

[NekoMageLycra]

Fedel shadow synthesize from what?

[flickersowner]

Feral Shadow with a philosopher stone, quality stone and some stuffs that i forgot.

The problem was, philosopher stone was very rare

[narutosasuke1512]

you need the statue Feral Edge or whatev its called

[flickersowner]

you need feral shadow statue

[nevrest]

It breaks my heart to see Lloyd die so quickly...

[chatofona]

Emil

Killed

Lloyd

and

died

= P

[uh777]

lmao the first time i did this i didnt know what was happening and i though i could actually fight him so... he does rising falcon and hits marta and me and my gay little wolf and we all die and im sitting there staring at the scr4een... wtfff?

[shizuka85]

Where did you get the monster that looks like Noishe? I want one!

[hellopeoples8]

How you get unknown mode?

[xheatx]

do every battle on ur second playthough on mania mode. ull get unknown on ur third playthrough

[Kiba088]

can i play this game with a game cube oder classic controller?

[Wowplestory]

nope

[evry1knowsitsbutters]

what u have to run away to get one of the skits...gah! i dont like to run

[GXrst64tlc]

Has anyone noticed that Sail (the Orion) looks so much like Noishe

[gnahzdivad]

First thing every ToS fan said when they saw him

[BaoZakeruga]

lol 0:23 Lloyd was on crack

[empoleon9999]

Where did you get all of the items to make the Feral Statue to make your Orion?

[Kang404]

The moment the battle started for me was also when the battle ended... Lloyd used Double Demon Fang the moment the fight began... the first fang hit Emil, the second hit Marta and before I knew it, it was over. T_T

[DevaKnight]

omg level 4 how could u do that

[DarkLinkRevolution]

Read the description "3rd Playthrough"

[typoguy13]

Lol. at around 2:49, it sounded like Lloyd said "Your mother Tiger blade!!"

[typoguy13]

I meant 0:47. lol. :P

[AeonRose7]

LOL it DOES

[ShiningPhoenix92]

I really f*cking thought that was Noishe D:

Then Wikipedia ruined my hopes and dreams.

[sokotsu1111]

does any body notice why he keeps saying im sorry dad when he loses and umm which dad

[HighPriestNorb]

Maybe because his dad [Kratos] kept saying like a million times on Symphonia: "DON'T DIE, LLOYD!"... And in the end, he goes again: "Don't die before I do, Lloyd, my son...". Taken that half-elves live only about one thousand years, I'd say Lloyd would be sorry anyway :D

[gnahzdivad]

Lloyd would then be 1/4 elf?

[IidoTheEevee]

I know it's not really Noishe, but I keep imagining that monster as Noishe kicking Lloyd's ass for turning evil.

[harvestguy204]

I did this in mania too...... at level 2 and i beat him....

[chrisw511]

i never run from any battles =0

[SeyrenKMW]

easy way to get a good 60 levels right after this fight. have the monsters attack lloyd until he is stunned then have two players combo him with marta and emil. Turn the monsters strategy to hold position and go till it's a 999 combo then return the monsters to normal. You'll get 999,999 bonus exp

[KYONOUCHI]

x10 gets you to 24, I've just done that on my 3rd playthrough.

Or did you just kill him in like ...5 seconds? o.O