excommunication is Biblical, but only God can declare someone apostate. Man's power and authority do not extend to the ability to declare someone saved or lost.. I know an LDS guy whose daughter was excommunicated because of gross misconduct, and she went to an evangelical church, and is now happy and spiritually healthy, and declares that Jesus is her savior. He admitted that going to that church had done what the LDS church couldn't, but didn't acknowledge that the LDS church was wrong
I would like some stats as to where Shawn knows that some people who want their name taken off the church are just then excommunicated instead. And also, since he rarely tells, where does he get the facts to back up his stats.
there is not an Oasis book store in that area, I live there, I know. I am not a mormon, just tired of this kind of weirdo spreading evil will about my good neighbors. I guess freedom of religion does piss people off still to this day.
@sureman1964 if Shawan says there is an Oasis bookstore that this young man went to, then there is an Oasis bookstore that this young man went to. The only lie is that salvation is by or through some sort of man run organization, and not directly through Jesus Christ. He may have made a mistake pertaining to the location of the bookstore, but he is not prone to making up stories or lies. A witness who did that would be found out and outed in a major way.
that the mormon religon is fake is always backed up by sketchy stories and wack-jobs. In every religon there are plenty of those but just becuase you "heard" a "story" about some crazy mormon that doesnt mean the whole church is fake. This goes for ALL religons.
You should move out of the United Satates if you do not believe or follow the U.S constitution. AMendment 1 gives us the right to freedom of religon. Disliking a church is one thing but my attacking it and telling people to stop going to it is against everything we fought for. And im not just taking up for mormons im talking about ALL religons. If you spent as much time reading the bible, praying and living a christ like life then you would be surely saved. one more thing all of your "proof"
actually, freedom of speech guarantees us the right to say anything we want about anyone, or anything, as long as it is not libelous. If someone sees people joining churches that they believe will cause them to not be saved, and go to an eternity in hell, and they DON"T say something, they are a lot more guilty before God than they are before man by "attacking" a particular church or organization. I don't agree with everything Shawn says or does, but I do believe he cares about LDS people
this is made up and if it wasnt then that bishop is stupid and should be released. If this were true thats one person doing something wrong not the whole church. If this were real the bishop messed up not the church of jesus christ. why do you attack mormons so much. you talk about being "christian and "christ like" in other videos yet you attack mormons. I guarantee that's not what christ would do and ontop of all that it's not constitutional.
Mormonism likes to play their "Christian card" when they R trying to suck in people from actual Christian faiths. But the real anti-Mormons, the Mormon false prophet & false apostles, who know Mormonism is a lie, but sell it anyway 2 gain the world in exchange for their souls, realize that they stand to loose a lot of Money, if their members ever discover who the Real Jesus Christ really is. When the real Jesus Christ gets a hold of a person they are not going to follow Mormonism for very long.
So what would you be doing if you weren't persecuting Christ's church? Anything? I'm thinking drug dealer..you're about as destructive. GLAD I'm not you...btw I've trumped you every time however I think it best to ignore you and let the investigation continue..it only gleans the honest in heart and revelation worthy. Too many scriptures condemn what you are doing specifically..shows that you and those that agree with you have no eyes to see or ears to hear. BTW your evidence sinks quickly!~
If you put the same amount of effort as you do on complaining about mormons, into your own personal salvation. You may have a chance to be saved. Until then brother, you are just a man, with the spirit of contention. You need to stop this for the sake of your own soul.
'Cult' is a common term (except in Mormon circles for obvious reasons!) that basically means any group that exercises *unreasonable* control over its adherents.
By unreasonable we mean this:
Controlling what you can and cannot read, wear, eat, say or think.
Mormonism, by its very nature is a cult.
It systematically takes the place of the Holy Spirit. The church does the leading, the calling, the excommunicating, the blessing, not the Holy Spirit.
Made up story. What do u have against the LDS church? We teach people to be accepting. Truthful. Honest. Full of service. And Christlike ,, is that a bad thing?! Maybe a few things may sound a little different but that's because u don't understand or u have been told false objections.
@BaurakAle7 Do you even have any idea how much costs in Haiti? Don't said it ten or hundred. They are way too high than you can afford it. Houses, schools, building, foods, death tolls and etc in Haiti is too high. You know why? They don't have electric power for tv news that why, many people died.
@BaurakAle7 If are you saying Mormonism isn't involved but clearly they are involved with Humanitarian because LDS have billions dollars to supporting. Think about world for minutes. If Haiti got earthquake and high toll that people died, houses and buildings destroyed. That tolls is rise to billions and few hundred dollars that they need to owned. Guess what they reply on. LDS have billion to supports them for foods, houses, death tolls, medicines, clothes, rebuild their houses.
@BaurakAle7 ...Wtf? Mr. Gate? What kind of name is that? I not holding the gate for car going through the gate? What is wrong with you? Are you drinking the beer again while you typing your comments? UPS isn't alone, any companies and churches like Mormonism are helping and supporting the World need. Now you being hate on Mormon then shame on you. Are you seriously they pay the billion dollars on crossroads, mall or everything then what the world they would do that??
@BaurakAle7 mall? Actually they do. Any church can supporting with Humanitarian Aid but dishonest? Rebuild the Mall? Did the Mall collapse themselves? What the world are you talking? If Mall is rebuild, then why LDS church pay for that? They are supporting to Humanitarian Aid. If you don't believe then go to google and find out.
@BaurakAle7 oh yeah, you are right that Satan want God and Glory but also Satan want us to be slavery without our independent. That why, you or 42apostate or Whyzitsough or entire people( before we were born on the earth) including me had chosen Jesus to be God over Satan so Satan was angry with Jesus and God the Father and fought against them. You did met Jesus and God the Father before you came here. So we did met him but we forgot them when we were born.
@BaurakAle7 That I was saying that to 42apostate or Whyitzsothough but they won't even listen to me and keep insulting me so I fighting back. But LDS church is also helping with Humanitarian Aid Donation. Mormons are helping their Church, Church helping Humanitarian Aid Donation and HAD helping the World. LDS got money from us that why, this Church is important to us and World.
@42apostate You didn't asked any question at all. This is your comments.
"If my guess is correct, you, dunooooo, have a dark skin. How long have you been a Mormon? Has your skin gotten lighter since joining? That's the promise made to all dark skinned people who join Mormonism. That promise is made in YOUR OWN Book of Mormon."
Oh amused me that I am a black race, oh wonderful but you are mistake me as black. And that what I meant "misled". Seriously.
Also, I did NOT say you were "black". That's YOUR word. I said "dark skinned". Dark skin can be the Chineese people, the Malasians, Polynesians, Mexican, South Americans, India Indians, Japanese, Eskimo, American Indians, Puerto Rican, Arab, etc. I meant no disrespect--in spite of your wish that I did!
@42apostate No lies? I did threw a insulting on you after you insulting me. But you didn't show a proof that false church as you kept insulting in misleading way. That why we ignored you and give you a little or way insults because you keep bugging us in another video. We did give you a proof but you said Mormon is false cult...Jeez please? If we are cult then Book of Mormon is cult and why you read them anyway? Book of Mormon is already labeled itself as LDS. Then why you reading LDS book?
@IMSaura Definitely your language is not English because having and getting in last sentences aren't suppose in same line. Possibly, you are from Mar that where you birth from Freaking Alien. Get it, Marget.
@42apostate And what Omeimo did to you? She just saying about how beautiful Church and God is kindly but u went screwing her over that. That why, Omeimo is nice person so back off of her, would you, Jeez
First, it's OMIOLO not Omeimo. Second, omiolo is a MAN not a woman.
Third, I have not written to omiolo for 3 or 4 weeks. When I DO write to him it is ALWAYS to counter a lie that he is telling at the time. He get's very upset when I do that because he KNOWS I'm correct, so starts making insulting remarks--instead of dealing with the point in question.
@42apostate Uh uhh..First, how you know that Omeimo is a guy ? And he is her...
...No. If members don't want to pay then that fine. It your freedom choose.
About Celestial Kingdom, if you want to go to Heaven then you have to keep his commandant as always. Do not curse, dirty thought, killing or etc. Have to keep yourself as saint. If not then you know where to go,
I know omiolo is man because he said he was a "High Priest". Unless the Mormon church has changed it's policy and now allows women to hold priesthood (a GREAT change), omiolo is a MAN!
I was a Mormon for 50 years so I know more Mormonism than you'll EVER know. I have been to the temple at least 10 times. I KNOW what goes on there.
Tithing IS NOT used for charity. It is the "Welfare Fund" that helps people NOT TITHING,
You show me where I called Mormon a cult! I DID NOT! You LIE!!
You pay tithing to the bishop NOT at the temple. He asks if you pay full tithing. If you say yes you get to go to temple. If you say no, you cannot go. If you cannot go you cannot get your Endowments. If you cannot get Endowments, you cannot go to heaven (highest degree of Celestial K). You HAVE to PAY TITHING to get there. That's why I say you have to pay a FEE (tithing) to get there. Comprende'?
@42apostate yes, you did lies and call me a cult from another video. ALso you blaming everything on me as Mormon cult. I was like wow, you might be a kid wrote your comments. Again with pay tithing, I already told you thousand times, It not about paying tithes to get temple. I can go temple as long, I continue to go to Church.
You are Mormon for 50 years? I went to your profile that you are 52 yrs old. So you rises in Mormon Church and you quit as exmormon like what 25 years ago?
@42apostate No, I told bishop that I didn't pay then he still can let me go to temple. He just ask me few questions and go to Temple, that all. But I bet you getting old because your memory is losing even though you are 52 yrs old. Good luck to tried prove your false evidence. Have a good time.
@42apostate Your proof? Okay I am still member of LDS, I know all things in temple but you are not LDS then how you know all things? I went to Temple with my family, it was free. It about baptize ourselves to spirit world that whom already died.
Byway, we paying for our tithing for Humanitarian Aid and we still get a blessing. Seriously, each churches are worthy in many States and World. There is no ways that we call an cult? We giving more than $200 for their help.
@42apostate We just helping humanitarian Aid but right now, everything in ruined. Iraq killing America and Iraq's people by using humans suicide, Mexico's drug wars fought with polices and won over the Mexico but now America sent army to fighting against them, I heard some Africa's mobs killing people but I don't know when that happen and finally nature disaster came unto our countries. Africa, Haiti, Australia and everywhere. Humanitarian Aid is trying to recover the world as possible but cont
"I have the feeling that even if we supply the proofs you won't accept them--no matter HOW solid the proofs are. Isn't that about right, dunnooooo? NO proof would EVER be good enough."
Oh if you have supply then why you misleading us to your silly false and rubbing our face like that? Serioulsy, you threw so many lies and insulting poor Omeimo. And you threw your insulting comments at my posts. That why, I don't accept you or your pathetic comment
I said NO LIES to Omiolo OR you. You and omiolo are the ones that were throwing insults. I returned them. I have not learned yet to "turn the other cheek". Maybe some day I will. But, until then I will not take your (or omiolo's) lies and slander without a "quid pro quo" response. IOW, you talk trash to me, I'll likely throw it right back.
Does this mean you don't want to hear my proof that LDS is a false church? If you don't,
If my guess is correct, you, dunooooo, have a dark skin. How long have you been a Mormon? Has your skin gotten lighter since joining? That's the promise made to all dark skinned people who join Mormonism. That promise is made in YOUR OWN Book of Mormon.
@Whyzitsotough Oh my god, I already gave you a proof, idiot. Now I already asked you where's your proof? If you have no proof then oh well, we won't believe you.
@Whyzitsotough lovebabybluez, eitoobmiz and chainstick are your aka. Idiot. Like I already told you. Now see here ppl, this is lowest pathetic human being have ignored my question and avoided it. Epic failure of you and non-proof. Calling me a lies isn't get you great or somewhat are u...
I already gave you a proof and you chosen to ignored my facts. What a loser.
@dunnooooo1234789 Where the fucks the proof asshole... DIDNT THINK SO.. YOURE JUST ANOTHER LYING INBRED ILLITERATE MORMON WHO CANT USE PROPER GRAMMAR TO SAVE YOUR LIFE.. WHERES THIS PROOF..YOURE ANNOYING WITH NO LIFE.. GO MEET A FAT MORMON GIRL AND GET MARRIED AND LEAVE GODS CHILDREN ALONE YOU SATANIC MORMON.. I KNOW YOURE FROM A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY RETARD I KNOW YOU ARE.. THE WAY YOU TALK IS MORE THEN PROOF
@Whyzitsotough I did my part but you didn't give out your evidence which you're truly failure. Now where's your proof? By way you are not one of god of child, due to your lies, mental thought problem and your error grammars. I guess you did have children but you marry fat wife, y have. Third world? Y know this is 2011? No life? I still alive so are ya. Well have a pathetic life.
@Whyzitsotough You are very retard, that is very sad. I not really pity on you but your grammars is making me feels great. Well thank you, sir. Have a miserable life while you're drinking a beer on your couch and be abusive. You have written alot of comments about yourself in many videos but I laughed at your comments.
Would God Almighty charge his children (we humans) MONEY to get into heaven? A "ticket" to heaven for a price? A FEE to be able to go thru those Pearly Gates?
What would you say is the likelihood of THAT church being GOD'S CHURCH--a "TRUE" church?? I, personally, would give it ZERO chance. I mean, COME ON!! A ticket to heaven costs money??
Here's the proof.
The Mormon Church is the ONLY CHURCH I know of that CHARGES it's members to go to Heaven!
I have the feeling that even if we supply the proofs you won't accept them--no matter HOW solid the proofs are. Isn't that about right, dunnooooo? NO proof would EVER be good enough.
@42apostate ...Give me a break, did you made it up about pay the fee to able go to Heaven? That stupid I've ever readied. God have everything like power, population, religion and WORLD. Why money? How this money need to own the Heaven? God like Jesus can do everything with his own POWER! He need some money?...That didn't sense at all. You guessed wrong, by way you are actually proved was false and legally fail in life. That how you misread in your Book of Mormon. But why hate on Mormon?
FIRST! Calm yourself down and take a deep breath. Chill!
All I said was that I had proof that the Mormon Church was not what it claimed. I didn't even get to explain what I meant by a "fee to get to heaven", before you went balistic! I'm interested in hearing your side, your explanation. It bothers me--but, maybe you have a reasonable explanation for it. Are you calmed down enough to be able to answer? If so I'll explain my problem with it. Want to hear it?
@42apostate Byway You possibly have dark skinned so did you paint yourself an tan? Does it work for you because you are in white community. How stupid. What the supply the proof you have ? You just point it out tha was misled. We have a proof in Bible and Book of Mormon but you the one who don't accept them like Whyzitsotough refused to prove anyway.
If I misinterpreted this scripture, please explain how and why I got it wrong. I am a reasonable person. If you explain it sufficiently I can admit my error.
I know you have a problem with English, but if you calm yourself down I can probably figure out what you're trying to say.
@42apostate You prefer dark skinned that is black.Period.
Remember Nephi and Laman were brother. Laman was angry with Nephi so he want to separate from his brother. He took his wife and his another brother to go far away. He and Nephi became to be enemies each other. One day, he want to kill his own bro so he took a sword and fought against him but died. His children grew up to be wicked so that when God cursed them into dark skinned which called black. 2 Nephi 5:3-23
@42apostate But I did said we have responsibly to pay the fee because we loan from them for pay what we own them. For example: if I don't have a money to pay the bills then I talk with church to loan then they will proved me and I pay the bills but in one condition, I must pay in every months.
Another reason, we have to pay them to help the people to the world like homeless, financial problem and everything. You have no idea what happening in this world.
@42apostate War crime (non-Mormons) kills many of people and destroy the cities, house, land and etc. Who going to help the poor defenseless people and children? Let me ask you; you want leave them in war zone? Do you?
I'm still listed as a member of the LDS church, though I know it's a heretical sect. My poor old Mom doesn't need any problems from local membership if I publicly renounced that sect right now, so I'll wait until after she dies to submit my resignation. I have power of attorney and I will not tolerate a Mormon-style funeral. My Mom's dead body does not need to be dressed in funny clothing, thanks.
LDS membership roles say that there are approx 10-13 million actual members of the LDS. Of that 13 million there are between 1.5 and 2.5 million who are inactive (some figures reflect as many as 3 million inactive). That leaves about 9-11 million active Mormons. If you take out the non-adults who are carried on the roles you have about 7 million active Adult Mormons. A marginal group at best and mostly isolated in Utah. Worldwide Mormonism is even more marginal. Islam has 1.5 BILLION members.
A former Mormon Church stake president, Clayton Hildreth, 51, pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court in Boise to a charge of interstate travel with intent to have sex with a minor. He faces a maximum sentence of 30 years in prison and a fine of $250,000.
Matt 7. Know them by their fruits. You're fruits are destructive Obviously.. What does LDS religion teach? Love God with all your Heart & mind and strength. Love One another,.. forgive one another, Be impeccable with your word, Do your best, turn the other cheek, communicate don't hate.
The New testament teaches this, & so does the Catholic Church. A man that has Anger in his Heart has Hate. A man that Hates has Murder in his heart. I am going to pray for you that your heart will look to God.
You need to re read my statements, (a few times Im guessing).. Whether he was exed or name removed he may have members of the church ask him what happened. It doesn;t matter. The Church knows this.. Shawns lie is based that excommunication HAS to HAPPEN for public view. this is a Lie. you can't prevent free will and agency. If the person is exed its because of Immorality Apostasy, illegal acts or all of the above. Bottom line
@Whyzitsotough I can refute anything you claim against the LDS faith. If you want Scripture I can do Scripture for scripture. If you want Secular I can go that rout just as easy.
At the end of the day, the Bottom line is whether or not you Believe in Christ. & the only thing to expose with the LDS religion is that you have the freedom and opportunity to believe what you want. If you want to be lds great, come on in . If you dont want to be LDS thats your choice, see ya.. wouldn't wanna be ya.
@Sephuskal Good luck with trying to win a debate with this Catholic, you will be like all other mormons who got shut down by the Catholics. Remember something idiot, Jesus was alive when he restored the Church and handed it to St. Peter. Now there are 1.5 Billion of us and STILL GROWING to your 13 million satanic cult in which only 4 million are active. Its been proven by thousands out there throughout the decades that satan and prophet of satan joseph smith invented mormonism
@Sephuskal So satan and prophet of satan joseph smithe USED Jesus Christ name on the mormons SO CALLED church just to try and fool Gods children and try to lure us away from God to join satan and prophet of satan joseph smith
@Sephuskal The mormons are the first to call Gods children satan because its a known fact that it is satan who invented mormonism and chose that pig shit joseph smith as satans prophet
@Whyzitsotough Nice personal Message "Youre another mormon asshole whos trying to annoy me, like satan tries to annoy Gods children. One more Email from you I promise you that you will need a new computer within 6wks.. not say that I will do anything but its just a promise that Im making.. ok satanic mormon boy!"
You have an open threat to throwing me a worm through Youtube?
@Whyzitsotough My reply to a Psycho who claims to be Christian private messaging me. "Why dont you give me your phone number you coward mormon piece of shit.. lets see if we can have this conversation on the phone.. I figured that you will make an excuse as to why you wont give me your number beings that you mormon fags who hide behind computer screens and use it to open your big mouth then hide.. go hail your filthy piece of shit mormon prophet of satan joseph smith
@Sephuskal Im not chainsticks asshole, show me physical proof of this claim, love it when the mormons feel exposed they throw out false claims, when they can't provide the proof then they are proven a liar
@Whyzitsotough To Me continued" and while youre at it, take your freakin dog to his grave to let him take a shit on smith, afterall his grave is every dogs favorite place to take a dump"
Do you who "claim to be Christian" Support this degenerate helping you with attacks on LDS members? is this good fruit or Bad fruit from this false Prophet Harassing me? Matt. 7.
@Sephuskal Yeah thats right a mormon calling Gods children unChristian.. listen mormon child of satan just keep it up, keep up the harassment and you will be another mormon who will be under yet another Catholics wrath.. I dont take shit bitch, I will trash you world! Go rot in hell with joseph smith
@Whyzitsotough Yeah, Joe Smith was a skullduggering reprobate who swindled people with false gold claims and was known to have 'salted' manys a mine in the early days when he was desperate for money and, of course, would not stoop to menial labour - he was too good for that. What a total arsehole in every sense. Yet, there are enough fools on earth to actually believe in his fairy tales. AMAZING!
@Whyzitsotough You're right. I have never heard them talk about Jesus, but only about how great Joe Smith was. Proof there's a fool born every second.
@Whyzitsotough I think that there has been an error in the spelling of Mormon at some time. There's one 'm' too many...shouldn't it be 'Moron?' I mean, in their books they talk about the 'Moroni'. Isn't that word just the plural of 'Moron?'
@Whyzitsotough I'm not anti-mormon, or anti-Bigfoot, or anti-Elvis-is-still-alive. I just don't believe it. They call people anti so they can act all persecuted and trodden upon, when really we just don't give a fuck about their kooky cult. I'm also not anti-jackalope.
Nailed it. When someone starts saying "You are just anti-...", it also shows that one has no backbone and is unwilling to see an argument through with their whole mind.
@dunnooooo1234789 Oh shut the fuck up you lying mormon you are patsaints and I ONLY HAVE ONE NAME YES THERE ARE A LOT MORE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD THAT HATE MORMONS THEN THOSE WHO DONT DONT SINGLE ME OUT AS IM JUST THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD WHO HATES MORMONS YOU ARE SO WRONG
@Whyzitsotough Ah. You have been exposed! Yes, screaming at me when you afraid to be corner...Lol that what you told me from last month. But my gosh, you still telling anyone that Mormonisms are false? Most of us had been telling you to prove it but you didn't prove in your pathetic and miserable life. You have one username? Yeah right, when I replied on you like five minutes then your aka, lovebluezbaby replied on my comment said,"Mormon are Satanic oh my gosh! Mormon are worshiping to devil"
@Whyzitsotough Oh now, I'm satanic? Yeah right. U the one want to replace Jesus because you kept saying that you are child of god but you're not exactly child even 34 years old man and you not god. You just biggest stupidity faggot I ever replied with.
@dunnooooo1234789 Wow that is so evil.. any child of God knows that we are children of God, satans mormons children try to twist that around like you just did
@Whyzitsotough See, again with Children of God. Why you keep mention about Children of God to yourself? No one are perfect and including me and Mormonism after all. I don't remember I recalled myself as perfect? Beside you the one loves to brought about Satan as always. What I did? My gosh, you possibly typing in gibberish?
@Whyzitsotough Umm first of all, you been typing with big capital when I gave a facts and all you keep saying Satan repeating...So that meant you are one of Satan follower and lover. That is very nice of you because he is very lonely. Again, you are not child since you are 34 years old. Don't call yourselves an God. Secondly, I think you are blind. I typing right now is entirely English. Go back to educational, they'll teach you something uselful.
@dunnooooo1234789 You like all mormons have not stated one single fact yet.. and your english is horrific, again I will ask you what is your nationality
@Whyzitsotough See, what kind of children of god are u? Telling lies, uses many aka user names and calling us asshole like you do now. That why, we don't even listen to your lies. That why you're Satan's follower.
@Whyzitsotough Yeahhh *roll eyes*. I do have a proof. Here it is. Your aka:lovebabybluez, eitoobmiz and chainstick. Is all your user names? Also I have someone already quoted on another video.
"FYI, chainsticks and secretbandmember are the same person. he has a few other names he uses as well. This is what he does all the time. He trolls for those that will respond to his hateful comments. He has NO intention of researching anything"
And everything are proof in another video that (cont.)
@Whyzitstough You, patsaints and I fought each other.
If anyone interest to see our comments, then type in ""God Of Our Fathers" - 'The Mormon Tabernacle Choir' audio". Everything are in there. Finally, I 'm typing in English, lover.
@Whyzitstough oh my bad, I mean't Patsaints and I fought with you, isn't that proof enough for you. Now your turn to show me some proof without repeating "Satan".
@Whyzitsotough that why I noticed that was you. I never replied on anyone on anyone than you. I remember that I was always replied on you but you and other akas just screamed at me like you do right now.
I proved him in this video lieing, and this is a (He said She said) Video. And I still exposed his evil fruit as stated in Matt 7. You want me to spend all night here with you going through Mcrannys videos to help you see Lucifers son who you worship as your prophet? Good Pastor Shawn Mccrany?
Is that what your needing from me? Tell you what The next time I have this much time I'll surf all the shawn videos I can for you ok buddy? I'll send you a message to get your dissaproval on them.
Again, why doesn't the church care,...because anyone with half a brain knows you can't run interference with free agency. You trash talkers will trash talk regardless. The Church has one objective thats to Govern through the ordinances and laws of God, so those who truly love God can get to him, or get out.The choice is theirs.
LOL friends from Church make up the church. Its a network organization Holmes. Let me help you learn a little mormon secret,... shhhh this is just between you and I now Ingle,...Christ and his word is greater than any members influence, leaders know this, so their not really worried what I say or you say or any other sap, the work will roll on with or with out us. Here's another secret, shhh Mcrnny knows this. He just lies by saying the church exes to look good. Again the church doesn't care,..
Mccraney's aim is to discredit the church by saying it keeps them looking good in public view. This is a blatant lie because they cant control what the persons going to do think or say regardless. If the person wanted the name removed he will talk trash or not, If hes exed like Mccranny he will probably definitely talk trash lol. So its just another tool of the Mccranney devils handbook
LOl ok. "what they do you see, if you have your name removed, people might have a chance to say see, what happened was I got a library card and started reading blah blah blah." K Bishop Mccranny. The fact is you are apostasizing or not, you are either in or you are out,. The church could careless, because if your gong to talk trash, your going to do it either way, you hate the Church any way, so why does it matter?
Well,just pointing out false prophets here like your self.teaching lies like McCraney. You can stop any time. FACTS? :P U kidding me? Your facts suck man. BTW 25 % of 2 million is plenty of wiggle room to find non "Faith with out works is dead" people killing themselves for the states statistics.
You're offended. My words have offended thee havent they. The wicked take the truth to be Hard.
@Ingle92 K. with 75% of the population being LDS U think I would have ran across at least 1 poor beat down suicide victim whos parents made him go to church with them & do scouting and hunting and fishing and service projects for eagle scouts like the sick sadistic bastards they were. in 15 yrs not 1!. But what do I know I only Counsel Kids and families who come through the court system. Just sayin. BTW went to Utahdotgov. 99Utah was 5th,04 it dropped to 7th.Liars go to Hell you know. careful
@Ingle92protege Well I have been working with Families & at risk youth for over 15 years. I have been privy to 6 teenage suicides in that time, & I can tell you that ALL 6 came from broken homes and families who could careless about the Gospel, be it LDS or Bible only. They came from places the LDS prophets have warned us to avoid in their lives. So that theorys out & I know this's a fact. The people that are drug addicts are always pretty self centered, Priesthood is service oriented. The end
@Ingle92protege I told you JOD was historical at best. The quote I gave you was Historically accurate. I thought you would enjoy it since you guys love JOD
@Ingle92protege Hrmm,never been to church and they preached Drug Sex and rock n roll from the pulpit. Actually I have family that have done all that and they rejected the prophets just like you, So theres the problem. post the poll that states Utah as the Highest rated. I bet you can't. I never met someone who followed the commandments who had a problem with screwing people over. I lived in St George and seen Mt meadows, Studied it,no doubt it was settlers, but not Apostles. Proofs there.
neither war nor bloodshed. Yet our enemies cry out "bloodshed," and "oh, what dreadful men these Mormons are, and those Danites! how they slay and kill!" Such is all nonsense and folly in the extreme. The wicked slay the wicked, and they will lay it on the Saints.
There's your JOD forthe day.
Don't give me your Grace Spiel.Only fools think you can spit in the eye of the Savior and his Father, Breaking the commandments God said we could prove we love him by & think Celestial Glory is coming.
With the help of imaginative writers, the mysterious “Danites” took on the status of an “urban legend” as a shadowy, mysterious vigilante group which enforced the will of church leaders by practicing blood atonement on those who opposed them. Brigham Young gave his opinion of such rumors during a conference talk on April 7, 1867 when he said: Is there war in our religion? No;
@Ingle92protege Bull...Hinckley Show me what Hinckley says about them. Cite sources. and the men who were in the Danites were joining as militia. Dr. Sampson Avard led them ans was a fanatic. Most men (esp Rockwell) left the group early on seeing it for what it was. The ones that stayed on were exed. clearly repudiated both the organization and Avard. This is the history of the Danite band, "which", says the Prophet Joseph, "died almost before it had an existence." BH Roberts. MO Persecutions
Poor Shawn.You werent a sicko for drugs sex and rock n roll prior to your mission. You werent a sicko for Drugs sex and rock n roll out side your marriage. Your not a sicko now for saying your still a sinner with no shame or regret in regards to drugs sex and rock n roll. Every ones a victim and LDS are the perpetrators huh buddy.
@Ingle92protege He says we harbored danites when in factthey were a secret society. he says Leaders were behind Mountain Meadow Massacre, and Bear river masscre. They werent. All he does is stir the pot up of Hatred and your either a Pawnor a key player. So which one are you? you a pawn or a key player in destruction DUDE!!?
What the Hell do you want? Me to baby you? I cant help you if your too stupid to tie your own retarded velcroe sandals. I told you JOD is mis used and invalid. He taught he married and had sex with a 14 yr old girl. thats false it was a sealing and never lived with her. He was sealed to her family even her father. He said Young preached blood atonement. False! early apostles referred to it in a complete theocratic environment from prophets passed. Grace versus works. we teach a combo of all 3
@Ingle92protege I think you should read his book then. Because the way it went down, he had to get exed for "Things he did" then he got called out on the real reasons why by a caller on his show live, and thats when he admitted to everything. Otherwise he'd look like an idiot. (Not that that would help) I think Chasing prescription pain killers with Vodka is more than being ON "prescription drugs", Cheating on his wife is a symptom from his early days of treating girls like toilets.
@Ingle92protege I could write a webster dictionary sized book on Shawns lies if I he was worth the reveal. He's a bitter excommunicated drug using adulterer who lied about that. Since he knew he would never rise through the mormon ranks to be bishop and higher leader, he knew he was screwed and became his own pastor of his false church. HIs cult. a BITTER "never will be". so cause problems with LDS here on out then. JOD doesn't exist in lds dot org does it? hrm becuz its not accurate thats wy
@Ingle92protege Go to LDSDOTorg and search using the JOD. Its a historical document at best, second third fourth hand info at best. It was written by nearly a dozen different people and published often with out an apostles approval. So if you use JOD to discredit claims, You may as well be using Mark Hoffman forged salamander letters with it man c;mon. Natureof God, blood atonement J.S. married a young girl, Grace works, priesthood, Contradiction, premortal life, Shawn Sheep wolfed all those
One thing I learned a longtime ago, there are three sides to every story. Their side, and their side, and the truth in the middle.
Thats something the excommunicated Shawn McCraney has yet to treasure. I'm sure this topic is near and dear to his heart. Nice objective view there Shawn. Lets not hear the Bishops side, The Teenager is 100% correct automatically, and his justification, and victimization are sound enough for judge jury and execution.
@Ingle92protege I've caught Shawn in plenty of lies and refuted them in open forums. The fact that he quotes out of JOD most the time is an easy slamDunked doughnut.
Mormon Social Stigma works at its best in Mormon so-called Disciplinary Councils, Do you think my own Former Mormon Ecclesiastical Leaders want to confront me, their way too nervous to do so, because I am Redeemed and I have seen the real light and that is more powerful than any Anti-mormon propaganda I could use.
Maybe he just needed a bookmark.
tarantulady 3 weeks ago
excommunication is Biblical, but only God can declare someone apostate. Man's power and authority do not extend to the ability to declare someone saved or lost.. I know an LDS guy whose daughter was excommunicated because of gross misconduct, and she went to an evangelical church, and is now happy and spiritually healthy, and declares that Jesus is her savior. He admitted that going to that church had done what the LDS church couldn't, but didn't acknowledge that the LDS church was wrong
apologeticsman 2 months ago
I would like some stats as to where Shawn knows that some people who want their name taken off the church are just then excommunicated instead. And also, since he rarely tells, where does he get the facts to back up his stats.
allmetal71 4 months ago
there is not an Oasis book store in that area, I live there, I know. I am not a mormon, just tired of this kind of weirdo spreading evil will about my good neighbors. I guess freedom of religion does piss people off still to this day.
sureman1964 4 months ago
@sureman1964 if Shawan says there is an Oasis bookstore that this young man went to, then there is an Oasis bookstore that this young man went to. The only lie is that salvation is by or through some sort of man run organization, and not directly through Jesus Christ. He may have made a mistake pertaining to the location of the bookstore, but he is not prone to making up stories or lies. A witness who did that would be found out and outed in a major way.
apologeticsman 2 months ago
@Keruran
Yes i am.
jonnyboy1411 5 months ago
that the mormon religon is fake is always backed up by sketchy stories and wack-jobs. In every religon there are plenty of those but just becuase you "heard" a "story" about some crazy mormon that doesnt mean the whole church is fake. This goes for ALL religons.
jonnyboy1411 6 months ago
You should move out of the United Satates if you do not believe or follow the U.S constitution. AMendment 1 gives us the right to freedom of religon. Disliking a church is one thing but my attacking it and telling people to stop going to it is against everything we fought for. And im not just taking up for mormons im talking about ALL religons. If you spent as much time reading the bible, praying and living a christ like life then you would be surely saved. one more thing all of your "proof"
jonnyboy1411 6 months ago
@jonnyboy1411
You're a Mormon aren't you jonnyboy1411.
Keruaran 5 months ago in playlist FUNNY stuff... not harmful...HAHAHHAHAHHAA
@jonnyboy1411 I think you make some very valid points and I think you're trying to make them in a non-offensive way. Thanks for that.
magilojoh 5 months ago
actually, freedom of speech guarantees us the right to say anything we want about anyone, or anything, as long as it is not libelous. If someone sees people joining churches that they believe will cause them to not be saved, and go to an eternity in hell, and they DON"T say something, they are a lot more guilty before God than they are before man by "attacking" a particular church or organization. I don't agree with everything Shawn says or does, but I do believe he cares about LDS people
apologeticsman 2 months ago
this is made up and if it wasnt then that bishop is stupid and should be released. If this were true thats one person doing something wrong not the whole church. If this were real the bishop messed up not the church of jesus christ. why do you attack mormons so much. you talk about being "christian and "christ like" in other videos yet you attack mormons. I guarantee that's not what christ would do and ontop of all that it's not constitutional.
jonnyboy1411 6 months ago
Cuckoo.
fepacommish 7 months ago
Mormonism likes to play their "Christian card" when they R trying to suck in people from actual Christian faiths. But the real anti-Mormons, the Mormon false prophet & false apostles, who know Mormonism is a lie, but sell it anyway 2 gain the world in exchange for their souls, realize that they stand to loose a lot of Money, if their members ever discover who the Real Jesus Christ really is. When the real Jesus Christ gets a hold of a person they are not going to follow Mormonism for very long.
1stcorinthians1vrs18 7 months ago
So what would you be doing if you weren't persecuting Christ's church? Anything? I'm thinking drug dealer..you're about as destructive. GLAD I'm not you...btw I've trumped you every time however I think it best to ignore you and let the investigation continue..it only gleans the honest in heart and revelation worthy. Too many scriptures condemn what you are doing specifically..shows that you and those that agree with you have no eyes to see or ears to hear. BTW your evidence sinks quickly!~
DuBarryFilms 8 months ago
@BaurakAle7 You doesn´t bring the fruit of peace.
dorisfenella 9 months ago
Shawn McCraney is a liar.
LDS4Life71 9 months ago
All religions are cults, the Mormons aren't special in that regard.
imperialme 9 months ago
No this guy is doing the right thing
bobbyraejohnson 9 months ago
If you put the same amount of effort as you do on complaining about mormons, into your own personal salvation. You may have a chance to be saved. Until then brother, you are just a man, with the spirit of contention. You need to stop this for the sake of your own soul.
1steviewonder1 9 months ago
'Cult' is a common term (except in Mormon circles for obvious reasons!) that basically means any group that exercises *unreasonable* control over its adherents.
By unreasonable we mean this:
Controlling what you can and cannot read, wear, eat, say or think.
Mormonism, by its very nature is a cult.
It systematically takes the place of the Holy Spirit. The church does the leading, the calling, the excommunicating, the blessing, not the Holy Spirit.
Sk8er408: You're in a cult.
thesignsoflife7 10 months ago
Made up story. What do u have against the LDS church? We teach people to be accepting. Truthful. Honest. Full of service. And Christlike ,, is that a bad thing?! Maybe a few things may sound a little different but that's because u don't understand or u have been told false objections.
Cono1515 11 months ago
@PaleoBarbie
the host name is shawn mccraney
the radio show is heart of the matter
wonderwomansay 11 months ago
Hi how to removed from my record..
aasshhlleeyy100 11 months ago
@aasshhlleeyy100
I hear you can resign online now days and have your name removed from the lds cult.
go to mormon no more.com to find out how to resign from the mormon cult.
wonderwomansay 11 months ago
@wonderwomansay
Cult... are you also a member of a cult or are you religionless?
Sk8er408 11 months ago
@BaurakAle7 Do you even have any idea how much costs in Haiti? Don't said it ten or hundred. They are way too high than you can afford it. Houses, schools, building, foods, death tolls and etc in Haiti is too high. You know why? They don't have electric power for tv news that why, many people died.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 If are you saying Mormonism isn't involved but clearly they are involved with Humanitarian because LDS have billions dollars to supporting. Think about world for minutes. If Haiti got earthquake and high toll that people died, houses and buildings destroyed. That tolls is rise to billions and few hundred dollars that they need to owned. Guess what they reply on. LDS have billion to supports them for foods, houses, death tolls, medicines, clothes, rebuild their houses.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 ...Wtf? Mr. Gate? What kind of name is that? I not holding the gate for car going through the gate? What is wrong with you? Are you drinking the beer again while you typing your comments? UPS isn't alone, any companies and churches like Mormonism are helping and supporting the World need. Now you being hate on Mormon then shame on you. Are you seriously they pay the billion dollars on crossroads, mall or everything then what the world they would do that??
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 I have found another Mormon is actually in Haiti. They are helping Humanitiarian Aid.
watch?v=10nYiW88fNw
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 I meant Australia. Sorry I just thought it was Haiti but I'm mistake.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 watch?v=nCwkYqsoXZk&f
I found this youtube. Mormon are helping the people in Haiti after earthquake.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 mall? Actually they do. Any church can supporting with Humanitarian Aid but dishonest? Rebuild the Mall? Did the Mall collapse themselves? What the world are you talking? If Mall is rebuild, then why LDS church pay for that? They are supporting to Humanitarian Aid. If you don't believe then go to google and find out.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 oh yeah, you are right that Satan want God and Glory but also Satan want us to be slavery without our independent. That why, you or 42apostate or Whyzitsough or entire people( before we were born on the earth) including me had chosen Jesus to be God over Satan so Satan was angry with Jesus and God the Father and fought against them. You did met Jesus and God the Father before you came here. So we did met him but we forgot them when we were born.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 That I was saying that to 42apostate or Whyitzsothough but they won't even listen to me and keep insulting me so I fighting back. But LDS church is also helping with Humanitarian Aid Donation. Mormons are helping their Church, Church helping Humanitarian Aid Donation and HAD helping the World. LDS got money from us that why, this Church is important to us and World.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789
I insulted you by asking you a question??
42apostate 1 year ago
@42apostate You didn't asked any question at all. This is your comments.
"If my guess is correct, you, dunooooo, have a dark skin. How long have you been a Mormon? Has your skin gotten lighter since joining? That's the promise made to all dark skinned people who join Mormonism. That promise is made in YOUR OWN Book of Mormon."
Oh amused me that I am a black race, oh wonderful but you are mistake me as black. And that what I meant "misled". Seriously.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789
I DID ask questions. See the 2 questionmarks?
Also, I did NOT say you were "black". That's YOUR word. I said "dark skinned". Dark skin can be the Chineese people, the Malasians, Polynesians, Mexican, South Americans, India Indians, Japanese, Eskimo, American Indians, Puerto Rican, Arab, etc. I meant no disrespect--in spite of your wish that I did!
42apostate 1 year ago
@42apostate No lies? I did threw a insulting on you after you insulting me. But you didn't show a proof that false church as you kept insulting in misleading way. That why we ignored you and give you a little or way insults because you keep bugging us in another video. We did give you a proof but you said Mormon is false cult...Jeez please? If we are cult then Book of Mormon is cult and why you read them anyway? Book of Mormon is already labeled itself as LDS. Then why you reading LDS book?
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789
I gave you the proof.
Is it true that members MUST pay tithing to get temple Recommend? YES!
Is it true that membs MUST have Endowments done in temple? YES!
Is it required by LDS that menbers have Endowments BEFOR they are "saved in Celestial Kingdom (highest degree)? YES!
SO. Member MUST PAY MONEY (tithing) to go to temple for Endowments so they can live with God.
Plainly said, LDS members MUST PAY money to live with God. I call that paying a FEE to get to heaven.
42apostate 1 year ago
@dunnoooo1234789
If you can't understand this simple concept, then I leave you to your delusions and false beliefs. Have a happy life.
42apostate 1 year ago
@42apostate dunnoooo's first language obviously isn't English, so maybe that's why he's having trouble getting it?
IMSaura 11 months ago
@IMSaura Definitely your language is not English because having and getting in last sentences aren't suppose in same line. Possibly, you are from Mar that where you birth from Freaking Alien. Get it, Marget.
dunnooooo1234789 11 months ago
@dunnooooo1234789 LOL, fucking idiot! Thanks for the laugh though!
IMSaura 11 months ago
@IMSaura Yeah, your asshole is laughing.
dunnooooo1234789 11 months ago
@42apostate And what Omeimo did to you? She just saying about how beautiful Church and God is kindly but u went screwing her over that. That why, Omeimo is nice person so back off of her, would you, Jeez
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789
First, it's OMIOLO not Omeimo. Second, omiolo is a MAN not a woman.
Third, I have not written to omiolo for 3 or 4 weeks. When I DO write to him it is ALWAYS to counter a lie that he is telling at the time. He get's very upset when I do that because he KNOWS I'm correct, so starts making insulting remarks--instead of dealing with the point in question.
42apostate 1 year ago
@42apostate Uh uhh..First, how you know that Omeimo is a guy ? And he is her...
...No. If members don't want to pay then that fine. It your freedom choose.
About Celestial Kingdom, if you want to go to Heaven then you have to keep his commandant as always. Do not curse, dirty thought, killing or etc. Have to keep yourself as saint. If not then you know where to go,
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789
I know omiolo is man because he said he was a "High Priest". Unless the Mormon church has changed it's policy and now allows women to hold priesthood (a GREAT change), omiolo is a MAN!
I was a Mormon for 50 years so I know more Mormonism than you'll EVER know. I have been to the temple at least 10 times. I KNOW what goes on there.
Tithing IS NOT used for charity. It is the "Welfare Fund" that helps people NOT TITHING,
42apostate 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789
You show me where I called Mormon a cult! I DID NOT! You LIE!!
You pay tithing to the bishop NOT at the temple. He asks if you pay full tithing. If you say yes you get to go to temple. If you say no, you cannot go. If you cannot go you cannot get your Endowments. If you cannot get Endowments, you cannot go to heaven (highest degree of Celestial K). You HAVE to PAY TITHING to get there. That's why I say you have to pay a FEE (tithing) to get there. Comprende'?
42apostate 1 year ago
@42apostate yes, you did lies and call me a cult from another video. ALso you blaming everything on me as Mormon cult. I was like wow, you might be a kid wrote your comments. Again with pay tithing, I already told you thousand times, It not about paying tithes to get temple. I can go temple as long, I continue to go to Church.
You are Mormon for 50 years? I went to your profile that you are 52 yrs old. So you rises in Mormon Church and you quit as exmormon like what 25 years ago?
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@42apostate No, I told bishop that I didn't pay then he still can let me go to temple. He just ask me few questions and go to Temple, that all. But I bet you getting old because your memory is losing even though you are 52 yrs old. Good luck to tried prove your false evidence. Have a good time.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@42apostate Your proof? Okay I am still member of LDS, I know all things in temple but you are not LDS then how you know all things? I went to Temple with my family, it was free. It about baptize ourselves to spirit world that whom already died.
Byway, we paying for our tithing for Humanitarian Aid and we still get a blessing. Seriously, each churches are worthy in many States and World. There is no ways that we call an cult? We giving more than $200 for their help.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@42apostate We just helping humanitarian Aid but right now, everything in ruined. Iraq killing America and Iraq's people by using humans suicide, Mexico's drug wars fought with polices and won over the Mexico but now America sent army to fighting against them, I heard some Africa's mobs killing people but I don't know when that happen and finally nature disaster came unto our countries. Africa, Haiti, Australia and everywhere. Humanitarian Aid is trying to recover the world as possible but cont
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@42apostate Now are you saying we are cult, give me a break.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@42apostate This is another comments of your.
"I have the feeling that even if we supply the proofs you won't accept them--no matter HOW solid the proofs are. Isn't that about right, dunnooooo? NO proof would EVER be good enough."
Oh if you have supply then why you misleading us to your silly false and rubbing our face like that? Serioulsy, you threw so many lies and insulting poor Omeimo. And you threw your insulting comments at my posts. That why, I don't accept you or your pathetic comment
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789
I said NO LIES to Omiolo OR you. You and omiolo are the ones that were throwing insults. I returned them. I have not learned yet to "turn the other cheek". Maybe some day I will. But, until then I will not take your (or omiolo's) lies and slander without a "quid pro quo" response. IOW, you talk trash to me, I'll likely throw it right back.
Does this mean you don't want to hear my proof that LDS is a false church? If you don't,
I'll explain it to everyone else here.
42apostate 1 year ago
Thank You!!! Thank You, thank you. Great video.
Jubjub1878 1 year ago
@Whyzitstough Because he can testify for a evidence?
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789
If my guess is correct, you, dunooooo, have a dark skin. How long have you been a Mormon? Has your skin gotten lighter since joining? That's the promise made to all dark skinned people who join Mormonism. That promise is made in YOUR OWN Book of Mormon.
How's that working for you??
42apostate 1 year ago
@Whyzitstough do you want me to bring patsaint for you until you satisfy?
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789 Yeah ok asshole, two lying ass mormons.. wheres your prof, where is is.. whats your nationality you fucking hindu
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough Oh my god, I already gave you a proof, idiot. Now I already asked you where's your proof? If you have no proof then oh well, we won't believe you.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789 Where THE HELL IS YOUR PROOF YOU LYING EFFIN MORMON WHERE IS IT.. WHERE IS THIS EFFIN PROOF THAT i HAVE ALL OF THESE NAMES.. WHERE
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough lovebabybluez, eitoobmiz and chainstick are your aka. Idiot. Like I already told you. Now see here ppl, this is lowest pathetic human being have ignored my question and avoided it. Epic failure of you and non-proof. Calling me a lies isn't get you great or somewhat are u...
I already gave you a proof and you chosen to ignored my facts. What a loser.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789 Wheres YOUR FUCKING PROOF ASSHOLE.. YOU ARE SUCH A LIA WHERES YOUR FUCKING PROOF
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough Y know what, all I can see your comments went blah, blah, blah...Dunno what are you talking.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@Whyzitough Puss Cult.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789 I rest my case you cannot provide proof of your false accusations another mormon slammed to the ground
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough I did gave you a proof three times but your pussy cat can't even proof. Now I rest my case, due your ass get fuck.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789 Wheres you EFFIN proof you lying mormon.. havent seen it bitch
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough I already gave you a proof, you piece of lies homo. Where your proof?
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789 Where the fucks the proof asshole... DIDNT THINK SO.. YOURE JUST ANOTHER LYING INBRED ILLITERATE MORMON WHO CANT USE PROPER GRAMMAR TO SAVE YOUR LIFE.. WHERES THIS PROOF..YOURE ANNOYING WITH NO LIFE.. GO MEET A FAT MORMON GIRL AND GET MARRIED AND LEAVE GODS CHILDREN ALONE YOU SATANIC MORMON.. I KNOW YOURE FROM A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY RETARD I KNOW YOU ARE.. THE WAY YOU TALK IS MORE THEN PROOF
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough I did my part but you didn't give out your evidence which you're truly failure. Now where's your proof? By way you are not one of god of child, due to your lies, mental thought problem and your error grammars. I guess you did have children but you marry fat wife, y have. Third world? Y know this is 2011? No life? I still alive so are ya. Well have a pathetic life.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough You are very retard, that is very sad. I not really pity on you but your grammars is making me feels great. Well thank you, sir. Have a miserable life while you're drinking a beer on your couch and be abusive. You have written alot of comments about yourself in many videos but I laughed at your comments.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789 Wheres the proof you lying mormon from a third world country
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough Where your proof? Pussy cult.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789
I have the proof.
Would God Almighty charge his children (we humans) MONEY to get into heaven? A "ticket" to heaven for a price? A FEE to be able to go thru those Pearly Gates?
What would you say is the likelihood of THAT church being GOD'S CHURCH--a "TRUE" church?? I, personally, would give it ZERO chance. I mean, COME ON!! A ticket to heaven costs money??
Here's the proof.
The Mormon Church is the ONLY CHURCH I know of that CHARGES it's members to go to Heaven!
42apostate 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789
I have the feeling that even if we supply the proofs you won't accept them--no matter HOW solid the proofs are. Isn't that about right, dunnooooo? NO proof would EVER be good enough.
42apostate 1 year ago
@42apostate ...Give me a break, did you made it up about pay the fee to able go to Heaven? That stupid I've ever readied. God have everything like power, population, religion and WORLD. Why money? How this money need to own the Heaven? God like Jesus can do everything with his own POWER! He need some money?...That didn't sense at all. You guessed wrong, by way you are actually proved was false and legally fail in life. That how you misread in your Book of Mormon. But why hate on Mormon?
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789
FIRST! Calm yourself down and take a deep breath. Chill!
All I said was that I had proof that the Mormon Church was not what it claimed. I didn't even get to explain what I meant by a "fee to get to heaven", before you went balistic! I'm interested in hearing your side, your explanation. It bothers me--but, maybe you have a reasonable explanation for it. Are you calmed down enough to be able to answer? If so I'll explain my problem with it. Want to hear it?
42apostate 1 year ago
@42apostate Byway You possibly have dark skinned so did you paint yourself an tan? Does it work for you because you are in white community. How stupid. What the supply the proof you have ? You just point it out tha was misled. We have a proof in Bible and Book of Mormon but you the one who don't accept them like Whyzitsotough refused to prove anyway.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789
Is the Book of Mormon "stupid"?
You can read all about the promise to dark skinned members of the church, that they will become "fair" skinned
once in the church. Read it at 3Nephi 2:11-17.
If I misinterpreted this scripture, please explain how and why I got it wrong. I am a reasonable person. If you explain it sufficiently I can admit my error.
I know you have a problem with English, but if you calm yourself down I can probably figure out what you're trying to say.
42apostate 1 year ago
@42apostate You prefer dark skinned that is black.Period.
Remember Nephi and Laman were brother. Laman was angry with Nephi so he want to separate from his brother. He took his wife and his another brother to go far away. He and Nephi became to be enemies each other. One day, he want to kill his own bro so he took a sword and fought against him but died. His children grew up to be wicked so that when God cursed them into dark skinned which called black. 2 Nephi 5:3-23
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
Now enough with your hate on Mormon. Jeez just move on with your own life.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@42apostate But I did said we have responsibly to pay the fee because we loan from them for pay what we own them. For example: if I don't have a money to pay the bills then I talk with church to loan then they will proved me and I pay the bills but in one condition, I must pay in every months.
Another reason, we have to pay them to help the people to the world like homeless, financial problem and everything. You have no idea what happening in this world.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@42apostate War crime (non-Mormons) kills many of people and destroy the cities, house, land and etc. Who going to help the poor defenseless people and children? Let me ask you; you want leave them in war zone? Do you?
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
I'm still listed as a member of the LDS church, though I know it's a heretical sect. My poor old Mom doesn't need any problems from local membership if I publicly renounced that sect right now, so I'll wait until after she dies to submit my resignation. I have power of attorney and I will not tolerate a Mormon-style funeral. My Mom's dead body does not need to be dressed in funny clothing, thanks.
eeikman 1 year ago
LDS membership roles say that there are approx 10-13 million actual members of the LDS. Of that 13 million there are between 1.5 and 2.5 million who are inactive (some figures reflect as many as 3 million inactive). That leaves about 9-11 million active Mormons. If you take out the non-adults who are carried on the roles you have about 7 million active Adult Mormons. A marginal group at best and mostly isolated in Utah. Worldwide Mormonism is even more marginal. Islam has 1.5 BILLION members.
hammerogod 1 year ago
@hammerogod
Additionally:
~ 1.1 Billion Catholics Worldwide.
~ 33 Million Baptists just in N.America (The Baptist World Alliance reports more than 37 million Worldwide).
7 Million Mormons compared to just the figures for Islam or Catholicism is like comparing a a cup full water to the Ocean.
Of course, I wouldn't want them all on my doorstep.
hammerogod 1 year ago
LDS BISHOP ARRESTED FOR PONZI SCHEME
Shawn Merriman is under arrest after stealing $20 million
from investors in multiple states. A former bishop of an
LDS Mormon church, Shawn Merriman spent his stolen wealth on cars,
original artwork, and his lavish homes throughout the United States.
Is this proof that Mormons are no better than Muslims?
thebigkahunafan 1 year ago
Lawyer Sees Pattern in Mormon Abuse
By Allison Landa
Tim Kosnoff sees a pattern.
Last March, the Bellevue, Washington-based attorney filed suit
against the Mormon Church and a former bishop in Portland, Oregon.
His client, 19-year-old Jeremiah Scott, says he was molested from ages
9 to 10. Repeatedly. By someone he trusted. By a man of God.
thebigkahunafan 1 year ago
2 lds bishops busted
1. (2001) Three young women in our ward went
to the bishop to report physical and sexual
abuse by their father. Their father was the
Elders Quorum Pres. The bishop counselled them
and their father, but did not report the situation
to authorities. A year later the girls filed criminal
charges against their father. The bishop's wife was a
character witness for the father in the trial.
He was convicted and sent to prison for 6 yrs.
thebigkahunafan 1 year ago
A former Mormon Church stake president, Clayton Hildreth, 51, pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court in Boise to a charge of interstate travel with intent to have sex with a minor. He faces a maximum sentence of 30 years in prison and a fine of $250,000.
thebigkahunafan 1 year ago
Matt 7. Know them by their fruits. You're fruits are destructive Obviously.. What does LDS religion teach? Love God with all your Heart & mind and strength. Love One another,.. forgive one another, Be impeccable with your word, Do your best, turn the other cheek, communicate don't hate.
The New testament teaches this, & so does the Catholic Church. A man that has Anger in his Heart has Hate. A man that Hates has Murder in his heart. I am going to pray for you that your heart will look to God.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
LOL He's a dummbass. To bad the guys who read this dont know.
chrstilen5 1 year ago
You need to re read my statements, (a few times Im guessing).. Whether he was exed or name removed he may have members of the church ask him what happened. It doesn;t matter. The Church knows this.. Shawns lie is based that excommunication HAS to HAPPEN for public view. this is a Lie. you can't prevent free will and agency. If the person is exed its because of Immorality Apostasy, illegal acts or all of the above. Bottom line
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Sephuskal Yeah bullshit, the mormons are getting exposed more and more.. deal with it
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough I can refute anything you claim against the LDS faith. If you want Scripture I can do Scripture for scripture. If you want Secular I can go that rout just as easy.
At the end of the day, the Bottom line is whether or not you Believe in Christ. & the only thing to expose with the LDS religion is that you have the freedom and opportunity to believe what you want. If you want to be lds great, come on in . If you dont want to be LDS thats your choice, see ya.. wouldn't wanna be ya.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Sephuskal Good luck with trying to win a debate with this Catholic, you will be like all other mormons who got shut down by the Catholics. Remember something idiot, Jesus was alive when he restored the Church and handed it to St. Peter. Now there are 1.5 Billion of us and STILL GROWING to your 13 million satanic cult in which only 4 million are active. Its been proven by thousands out there throughout the decades that satan and prophet of satan joseph smith invented mormonism
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
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@Sephuskal So satan and prophet of satan joseph smithe USED Jesus Christ name on the mormons SO CALLED church just to try and fool Gods children and try to lure us away from God to join satan and prophet of satan joseph smith
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough That wasn't very "ChristLike".. Are you sure you're Catholic?
Because you private messaging and swearing at me so the public wont see your antichrist ways doesn't hide your deeds from God my friend.
If you truly Claimed Christ you would emulate him better.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Sephuskal The mormons are the first to call Gods children satan because its a known fact that it is satan who invented mormonism and chose that pig shit joseph smith as satans prophet
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough Nice personal Message "Youre another mormon asshole whos trying to annoy me, like satan tries to annoy Gods children. One more Email from you I promise you that you will need a new computer within 6wks.. not say that I will do anything but its just a promise that Im making.. ok satanic mormon boy!"
You have an open threat to throwing me a worm through Youtube?
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough My reply to a Psycho who claims to be Christian private messaging me. "Why dont you give me your phone number you coward mormon piece of shit.. lets see if we can have this conversation on the phone.. I figured that you will make an excuse as to why you wont give me your number beings that you mormon fags who hide behind computer screens and use it to open your big mouth then hide.. go hail your filthy piece of shit mormon prophet of satan joseph smith
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Sephuskal Go hail your filthy piece of shit prophet of satan joseph smith
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
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@Whyzitsotough Have a blessed day.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
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Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough I said have a blessed day Chainsticks88
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Sephuskal Im not chainsticks asshole, show me physical proof of this claim, love it when the mormons feel exposed they throw out false claims, when they can't provide the proof then they are proven a liar
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough To Me continued" and while youre at it, take your freakin dog to his grave to let him take a shit on smith, afterall his grave is every dogs favorite place to take a dump"
Do you who "claim to be Christian" Support this degenerate helping you with attacks on LDS members? is this good fruit or Bad fruit from this false Prophet Harassing me? Matt. 7.
Just curious.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Sephuskal Yeah thats right a mormon calling Gods children unChristian.. listen mormon child of satan just keep it up, keep up the harassment and you will be another mormon who will be under yet another Catholics wrath.. I dont take shit bitch, I will trash you world! Go rot in hell with joseph smith
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough Yeah, Joe Smith was a skullduggering reprobate who swindled people with false gold claims and was known to have 'salted' manys a mine in the early days when he was desperate for money and, of course, would not stoop to menial labour - he was too good for that. What a total arsehole in every sense. Yet, there are enough fools on earth to actually believe in his fairy tales. AMAZING!
zideffil 1 year ago
@zideffil And to think that the mormons put that piece of crap joseph smith above Jesus Christ..
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough You're right. I have never heard them talk about Jesus, but only about how great Joe Smith was. Proof there's a fool born every second.
zideffil 1 year ago
@zideffil Haha I love how the mormons act sooo shocked and ask why are you anti mormons? I tell them because anti mormon means anti satan LOL
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough I think that there has been an error in the spelling of Mormon at some time. There's one 'm' too many...shouldn't it be 'Moron?' I mean, in their books they talk about the 'Moroni'. Isn't that word just the plural of 'Moron?'
zideffil 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough I'm not anti-mormon, or anti-Bigfoot, or anti-Elvis-is-still-alive. I just don't believe it. They call people anti so they can act all persecuted and trodden upon, when really we just don't give a fuck about their kooky cult. I'm also not anti-jackalope.
sparky7718 1 year ago
@sparky7718
Nailed it. When someone starts saying "You are just anti-...", it also shows that one has no backbone and is unwilling to see an argument through with their whole mind.
sunskywindshane 1 year ago
@sparky7718 Don't listen to him, he have so many akas to fool anyone.
His aka is whyitztough, lovebluezbaby and etc.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789 Oh shut the fuck up you lying mormon you are patsaints and I ONLY HAVE ONE NAME YES THERE ARE A LOT MORE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD THAT HATE MORMONS THEN THOSE WHO DONT DONT SINGLE ME OUT AS IM JUST THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD WHO HATES MORMONS YOU ARE SO WRONG
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough Ah. You have been exposed! Yes, screaming at me when you afraid to be corner...Lol that what you told me from last month. But my gosh, you still telling anyone that Mormonisms are false? Most of us had been telling you to prove it but you didn't prove in your pathetic and miserable life. You have one username? Yeah right, when I replied on you like five minutes then your aka, lovebluezbaby replied on my comment said,"Mormon are Satanic oh my gosh! Mormon are worshiping to devil"
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789 ahh really im exposed show proof you satanic lying mormon asshole
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough Oh now, I'm satanic? Yeah right. U the one want to replace Jesus because you kept saying that you are child of god but you're not exactly child even 34 years old man and you not god. You just biggest stupidity faggot I ever replied with.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789 Wow that is so evil.. any child of God knows that we are children of God, satans mormons children try to twist that around like you just did
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough See, again with Children of God. Why you keep mention about Children of God to yourself? No one are perfect and including me and Mormonism after all. I don't remember I recalled myself as perfect? Beside you the one loves to brought about Satan as always. What I did? My gosh, you possibly typing in gibberish?
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789 The devil and his mormon children dont like when we are children of God
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789 Oh what is your native language its definiatly NOT english.. what nationality are you
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough Umm first of all, you been typing with big capital when I gave a facts and all you keep saying Satan repeating...So that meant you are one of Satan follower and lover. That is very nice of you because he is very lonely. Again, you are not child since you are 34 years old. Don't call yourselves an God. Secondly, I think you are blind. I typing right now is entirely English. Go back to educational, they'll teach you something uselful.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789 You like all mormons have not stated one single fact yet.. and your english is horrific, again I will ask you what is your nationality
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough See, what kind of children of god are u? Telling lies, uses many aka user names and calling us asshole like you do now. That why, we don't even listen to your lies. That why you're Satan's follower.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@dunnooooo1234789 SHow me this proof you mormon LIAR that I have all of these USER names.. show me this proof.. WHAT NATIONALITY ARE YOU
Whyzitsotough 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough Yeahhh *roll eyes*. I do have a proof. Here it is. Your aka:lovebabybluez, eitoobmiz and chainstick. Is all your user names? Also I have someone already quoted on another video.
"FYI, chainsticks and secretbandmember are the same person. he has a few other names he uses as well. This is what he does all the time. He trolls for those that will respond to his hateful comments. He has NO intention of researching anything"
And everything are proof in another video that (cont.)
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@Whyzitstough You, patsaints and I fought each other.
If anyone interest to see our comments, then type in ""God Of Our Fathers" - 'The Mormon Tabernacle Choir' audio". Everything are in there. Finally, I 'm typing in English, lover.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@Whyzitstough oh my bad, I mean't Patsaints and I fought with you, isn't that proof enough for you. Now your turn to show me some proof without repeating "Satan".
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough and you don't even know what is celestial is!?
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotought *useful*
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough that why I noticed that was you. I never replied on anyone on anyone than you. I remember that I was always replied on you but you and other akas just screamed at me like you do right now.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
Like he tried to fooled me but I didn't kneeled down to ground.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
@Whyzitsotough Hi, Whyzitstough, I knew you are there. Still spreading old cult of your try to fool me with your own aka, sunskywindshane.
dunnooooo1234789 1 year ago
I proved him in this video lieing, and this is a (He said She said) Video. And I still exposed his evil fruit as stated in Matt 7. You want me to spend all night here with you going through Mcrannys videos to help you see Lucifers son who you worship as your prophet? Good Pastor Shawn Mccrany?
Is that what your needing from me? Tell you what The next time I have this much time I'll surf all the shawn videos I can for you ok buddy? I'll send you a message to get your dissaproval on them.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
cite the lawsuit. And how the church had to pay the 18 million
Sephuskal 1 year ago
Again, why doesn't the church care,...because anyone with half a brain knows you can't run interference with free agency. You trash talkers will trash talk regardless. The Church has one objective thats to Govern through the ordinances and laws of God, so those who truly love God can get to him, or get out.The choice is theirs.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
LOL friends from Church make up the church. Its a network organization Holmes. Let me help you learn a little mormon secret,... shhhh this is just between you and I now Ingle,...Christ and his word is greater than any members influence, leaders know this, so their not really worried what I say or you say or any other sap, the work will roll on with or with out us. Here's another secret, shhh Mcrnny knows this. He just lies by saying the church exes to look good. Again the church doesn't care,..
Sephuskal 1 year ago
Mccraney's aim is to discredit the church by saying it keeps them looking good in public view. This is a blatant lie because they cant control what the persons going to do think or say regardless. If the person wanted the name removed he will talk trash or not, If hes exed like Mccranny he will probably definitely talk trash lol. So its just another tool of the Mccranney devils handbook
Sephuskal 1 year ago
LOl ok. "what they do you see, if you have your name removed, people might have a chance to say see, what happened was I got a library card and started reading blah blah blah." K Bishop Mccranny. The fact is you are apostasizing or not, you are either in or you are out,. The church could careless, because if your gong to talk trash, your going to do it either way, you hate the Church any way, so why does it matter?
Sephuskal 1 year ago
Well,just pointing out false prophets here like your self.teaching lies like McCraney. You can stop any time. FACTS? :P U kidding me? Your facts suck man. BTW 25 % of 2 million is plenty of wiggle room to find non "Faith with out works is dead" people killing themselves for the states statistics.
You're offended. My words have offended thee havent they. The wicked take the truth to be Hard.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Ingle92protege PS love squashing your claims.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Ingle92 K. with 75% of the population being LDS U think I would have ran across at least 1 poor beat down suicide victim whos parents made him go to church with them & do scouting and hunting and fishing and service projects for eagle scouts like the sick sadistic bastards they were. in 15 yrs not 1!. But what do I know I only Counsel Kids and families who come through the court system. Just sayin. BTW went to Utahdotgov. 99Utah was 5th,04 it dropped to 7th.Liars go to Hell you know. careful
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Ingle92protege Well I have been working with Families & at risk youth for over 15 years. I have been privy to 6 teenage suicides in that time, & I can tell you that ALL 6 came from broken homes and families who could careless about the Gospel, be it LDS or Bible only. They came from places the LDS prophets have warned us to avoid in their lives. So that theorys out & I know this's a fact. The people that are drug addicts are always pretty self centered, Priesthood is service oriented. The end
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Ingle92protege I told you JOD was historical at best. The quote I gave you was Historically accurate. I thought you would enjoy it since you guys love JOD
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Ingle92protege Hrmm,never been to church and they preached Drug Sex and rock n roll from the pulpit. Actually I have family that have done all that and they rejected the prophets just like you, So theres the problem. post the poll that states Utah as the Highest rated. I bet you can't. I never met someone who followed the commandments who had a problem with screwing people over. I lived in St George and seen Mt meadows, Studied it,no doubt it was settlers, but not Apostles. Proofs there.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
neither war nor bloodshed. Yet our enemies cry out "bloodshed," and "oh, what dreadful men these Mormons are, and those Danites! how they slay and kill!" Such is all nonsense and folly in the extreme. The wicked slay the wicked, and they will lay it on the Saints.
There's your JOD forthe day.
Don't give me your Grace Spiel.Only fools think you can spit in the eye of the Savior and his Father, Breaking the commandments God said we could prove we love him by & think Celestial Glory is coming.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
With the help of imaginative writers, the mysterious “Danites” took on the status of an “urban legend” as a shadowy, mysterious vigilante group which enforced the will of church leaders by practicing blood atonement on those who opposed them. Brigham Young gave his opinion of such rumors during a conference talk on April 7, 1867 when he said: Is there war in our religion? No;
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Ingle92protege Bull...Hinckley Show me what Hinckley says about them. Cite sources. and the men who were in the Danites were joining as militia. Dr. Sampson Avard led them ans was a fanatic. Most men (esp Rockwell) left the group early on seeing it for what it was. The ones that stayed on were exed. clearly repudiated both the organization and Avard. This is the history of the Danite band, "which", says the Prophet Joseph, "died almost before it had an existence." BH Roberts. MO Persecutions
Sephuskal 1 year ago
Poor Shawn.You werent a sicko for drugs sex and rock n roll prior to your mission. You werent a sicko for Drugs sex and rock n roll out side your marriage. Your not a sicko now for saying your still a sinner with no shame or regret in regards to drugs sex and rock n roll. Every ones a victim and LDS are the perpetrators huh buddy.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Ingle92protege He says we harbored danites when in factthey were a secret society. he says Leaders were behind Mountain Meadow Massacre, and Bear river masscre. They werent. All he does is stir the pot up of Hatred and your either a Pawnor a key player. So which one are you? you a pawn or a key player in destruction DUDE!!?
Sephuskal 1 year ago
What the Hell do you want? Me to baby you? I cant help you if your too stupid to tie your own retarded velcroe sandals. I told you JOD is mis used and invalid. He taught he married and had sex with a 14 yr old girl. thats false it was a sealing and never lived with her. He was sealed to her family even her father. He said Young preached blood atonement. False! early apostles referred to it in a complete theocratic environment from prophets passed. Grace versus works. we teach a combo of all 3
Sephuskal 1 year ago
Mr pastor Mccraney wants to be the pastor of his church but misses all the points needed to be one in Timothy 3.
The fact that you love your wolf in sheeps clothing here, only proves its you who is an antichrist and follows after a false prophet
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Ingle92protege I think you should read his book then. Because the way it went down, he had to get exed for "Things he did" then he got called out on the real reasons why by a caller on his show live, and thats when he admitted to everything. Otherwise he'd look like an idiot. (Not that that would help) I think Chasing prescription pain killers with Vodka is more than being ON "prescription drugs", Cheating on his wife is a symptom from his early days of treating girls like toilets.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Ingle92protege I could write a webster dictionary sized book on Shawns lies if I he was worth the reveal. He's a bitter excommunicated drug using adulterer who lied about that. Since he knew he would never rise through the mormon ranks to be bishop and higher leader, he knew he was screwed and became his own pastor of his false church. HIs cult. a BITTER "never will be". so cause problems with LDS here on out then. JOD doesn't exist in lds dot org does it? hrm becuz its not accurate thats wy
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Ingle92protege Go to LDSDOTorg and search using the JOD. Its a historical document at best, second third fourth hand info at best. It was written by nearly a dozen different people and published often with out an apostles approval. So if you use JOD to discredit claims, You may as well be using Mark Hoffman forged salamander letters with it man c;mon. Natureof God, blood atonement J.S. married a young girl, Grace works, priesthood, Contradiction, premortal life, Shawn Sheep wolfed all those
Sephuskal 1 year ago
One thing I learned a longtime ago, there are three sides to every story. Their side, and their side, and the truth in the middle.
Thats something the excommunicated Shawn McCraney has yet to treasure. I'm sure this topic is near and dear to his heart. Nice objective view there Shawn. Lets not hear the Bishops side, The Teenager is 100% correct automatically, and his justification, and victimization are sound enough for judge jury and execution.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Ingle92protege I've caught Shawn in plenty of lies and refuted them in open forums. The fact that he quotes out of JOD most the time is an easy slamDunked doughnut.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
Mormon Social Stigma works at its best in Mormon so-called Disciplinary Councils, Do you think my own Former Mormon Ecclesiastical Leaders want to confront me, their way too nervous to do so, because I am Redeemed and I have seen the real light and that is more powerful than any Anti-mormon propaganda I could use.
billymeier182 1 year ago
@billymeier182 Well you're a real tough son of a Bitch aren't you.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
Cults don't have their own football teams . :)
mormonboy08 1 year ago
@mormonboy08 haha.. havnt seen one yet.
Cookster232 1 year ago
@mormonboy08 Nice
Sephuskal 1 year ago