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  • I played WAR beta. I did not buy WAR. I just dinged my Death Knight to 71 today though.

    ;)

  • have u ever played WoW....if so...do u suggest this or WoW?

    so hard to go with this or stay with wow

    agghhhhhhh

  • If you want to choose WoW - buy it with ALL extensions (wrath of the lich king included) - still, WAR is great antagonist for WoW, it's simple great mmorpg. I would suggest buying WAR instead.

  • Warhammer online for sure. Wows cool and all, but WAR blows wow away. It has huge epic battles and RVR. You can fight agianst other castles and kindoms and you can try to break into the castles. Your always at war and your city can be raided anytime. The gameplay is so amazing you can really get into the game. Wows more of an arcade style. You wow fans can get mad all you want but it's the truth. Wow doesnt offer the epic battle that Warhammer has. You can play it for yourself get the trial free

  • I wish one of the classes dual wielded shields. Who the hell needs an Axe and a claw when you can have two steel boards of doom?

  • Can s warrs have dark cpapes an hoods :D

    Cos that one looks to glam to hold the name "shadow warrior" :x

  • great video mate, all those action made me wanna play the game even more now. I have a question. What keys did you bind to on all you primary attack skill? and also those quick stance change? : D

    thx in advance

    Oh yea i also want to know which method you use to lvl up? do you use 100% bow attack on mobs or do you switch to sword and spam attack? I got tired from spamming sword attack when a monster get close to me.

    : )

  • what is the name of that song in the video:)

  • 1. "Last Things" - KMFDM

    2. "Control" - MDFMK

  • Well nice video, good gameplay skills, what's more, seems like the shadow warrior will be a VERY popular character xD I will for sure try it out xD

    Hope the game owns, cause I'm tired of wow's sh** xD

  • Haha, thanks.

    Yeah, I'm probably not going to buy this game even though I want to extremely badly.

    I have this problem with getting too involved the games I play, so I don't want to spend too much time with this one.

  • aha kk, ty

  • You are welcome. :D

  • WAR is gonna be facking great..

  • Hehe, probably. It's shaping up to be a fairly nice game.

    I dunno if it'll take me away from my FPS games, but it might. :)

  • You mabye said this earlyer but what is your spec?

  • Well, in this vid, I just dinged 10 or 11 and I either have one or no spec points.

    But my planned spec is something like 11 Scout/14 Skirmish

    In fact, I'll pm it to you since I can't post a wardb URL here. :(

  • ha great video mate, what FPS game is your current favorite?

    and why ^.^

    oh yea... what keys did you set your skills to for your SW? :D thx in advance.

    fav!

  • has the sw an attack that slows the enemy down?

    if he/she has , do u have to stab someone or do u have to shoot to cripple ur enemy?

  • SW has a ranged snare called "Takedown". It's a 40% speed debuff that you can fire while moving. You also get an ability called "Vengeance of Nagarythe" which increases your damage by 50% for 10-15 secs., I can't recall exactly.

    But, if you use "Takedown" while your "Vengeful", it'll knock people down instead of snaring them.

    Shadow Warriors are straight dirty. :P

  • All of the elf careers look awesome, but im probably gonna main a Scout/Assault Shadow Warrior ftw

  • Not a bad idea. I'd go Scout/Skirmish though.

    I think the "Mortal Strike" (i.e. 50% healing debuff) shot from Path of the Skirmisher is tough to beat, but games are supposed to be fun, and well, it's nice to see someone who just wants to play a class the way they want to play it.

    Min/maxing makes these games so boring.  :D

  • It looks really good. Are the video settings on high? I would like to play the game when it comes out but i really dont want to get another graphics card just to play. I have an HD3650 atm.

  • HD 3650 should be fine.

    From what my friends tell me, one of the major bottlenecks for their systems has been RAM.

    Once they upgrade to 2GB and 4GB respectively, both their lag issues went away.

  • woah! good vid there mate :)

    now im in a crossroad :P to be an engenieer or shadow warrior :P

  • Shadow Warrior.

    Unless you like dwarves. :)

  • can i do good meele pvp with a shadow warrior? or is he only for distance?

  • SW has solid melee damage, but the class is too fragile to stay in melee for long, so you have to hit and run.

  • Do Shadow Warriors really aim their bow that high after almost every single shot? I don't know why it annoys me, but it does. I have seen videos where a Shadow Warrior is fighting someone near point blank and they still aim their bow up..

  • Yeah.

  • I like your playstyle, what server will you be on?? ^^

  • I'm actually uncertain right now. Also, I'm possibly playing Destruction now, but keep in touch and I'll let you know. :D

  • does this game go on forever

  • Something like that. The level cap is set at 40, but there are a ton of "renown" levels that you get from killing players and completing RvR objectives.

    The renown levels grant access to gear rewards and abilities that additional mastery points that enhance your character.

  • Thanks for the quick reply. However, I'm talking about the build. Scout and Skirmisher I believe are what the two range builds are called?

  • Scout spec will probably be the most tried, true and common spec for all types of players.

    However, with a level 31 template toon, I found Skirmish to be pretty powerful. I basically play the same way you see in this video.

    I dps healers from long range, and then I harass, cc, and help kill melee. I don't know if it's best spec. It probably isn't. But I love Skirmish spec and OK with it.

    IMO Scout/Skirmish split is best. Festering Arrow & %50 Healing debuff (MS shot).

  • Which do you find better? Scout or skirmish?

  • They're all good. Just bind them and swap them accordingly.

    Scout stance gives +10% range and adds Ballistics skill, which makes it pretty easy to pick off lazy sorcerers.

    Skirmish gives you +Toughness and +5% crit which is also nice. I primarily play in Skirmish stance, but I switch all the time.

    I like to use scout stance when I'm just hanging out in the zerg picking people off, and skirmish for when I'm being more aggressive.

  • How about that helm, can you hide it?

  • In release, I believe you're going to be able to hide cloaks and helms, but I haven't gotten it to work yet in beta.

    High Elves have ludicrous helmets. It's a fact. But I find it rather humorous, so I don't mind. :)

  • are you able to "dye" your clothes different colours?

  • Yes. There are a variety of a colors to choose from currently, and from what I understand, more will be added before release.

  • No more colors ar to be put in to the game to the relese that i have heard but there will be rare colors that drop from bosses. Like Chaos Black and Blood Red. Wich is really cool

  • I see.

  • yeh there are witch makes me totally hyped !!! i mean that is somethingthey should have done in wow

  • Yeah in WoW, no matter how badass your character got in terms of progression, you still looked like every other "badass" looking character in the game.

    Woo! I've got full tier whatever! My toon looks... just like that other guy over there....

  • what stance are u on?

  • This video is awesome compared to other WAR Gameplay vids out there. I dont mind the jumping cause i do that ALL the time in WoW. But anyway.... everytime i watch this.. i cant wait till the Open Beta starts... Go Go SW!

    Ohh!! I always wanted to know what is that ability where you punt the guy like 100 ft back when they approach you?!?!?!

  • It's called "Point-Blank", and it's a level 1 morale ability on a 60-second timer that does damage + knockback effect. :)

  • How's the melee based attacks on the Shadow Warrior.... are there any? the name Warrior leads me to believe that the class, or career as they call it, should have some sort of melee attacks am i right or no? I have been look at all the classes and this seems to be Competing with Bright wizard for my favorite one. I really like the Magus on the Destruction side though... the Disc it floats on is sweet looking lol

  • You have melee abilities including a "backstab" that you can spec to have it ignore armor, but, it's on a 10-second timer, so it's not useless, but, as a SW, you never want to be in melee range for long.

    Magus is shaping up to be a mid-to-close range caster with a variety of utility abilities and debuffs.

    Overall, I'm sure it's great. Like the engineer, you get turret pets, but I prefer things simple, and I find BW/SW better for me because the gameplay requires less micromanagement.

  • yea lol i really liked the bright wizard at first but after looking at this shadow warrior i couldn't help but notice how much a BAMF they look like in all the concept art and stuff LOL

    Another class on Destruction side i was looking at was Shaman.... for some reason they seem more like the Warlocks from WoW then the shamans from WoW lol but they really seem to be a heavy hitter.

  • Overall I consider Shamans to be quite powerful. They're damage is nothing to be ignored, and they have outstanding healing capability, as well as Gork Sez Stop, and other utility spells.

    Last time I played a Shaman template, I spent most of my time removing BW hexes. I don't think most people think to do that in zerg vs. zerg fight, but it really helps save lives.

  • yeh in warhammer (the ip), shamans are a straight up clothy wizard type used by greenskins

  • yo i tryed DLing Last Things by KMFDM but all i got are a bunch of heavy metal songs

  • You may have gotten some of the other tracks on KMFDM's "WWIII" album.

    "Last Things" is something of an atypical song for KMFDM as far as the way it sounds and the vocals.

    Most of their songs feature male vocals, and "WWIII" has some pretty heavy guitar riffs.

  • The way he shoots up in the air is kind of annoying.

    Nice vid though, I played a hunter in WoW the same way lol

  • Thanks. I'm glad you like it. :)

  • Congratz, You have one of the best WAR videos up. I loved it alot. thanks a ton, Now if you could answer some quetions for me. this may sound bossy but please answer then in the order from 1-ect. please if you do. =-D

    1. Is the place you are fighting in a BG (WoW) , Like a instanced pvp fight, Or is that a RVR Area?

    2. Is the world big and non repetative?

    3. What was the level range in the fight?

    4. Can a level 1 go into a level 40 area and fight there.

    5. how is the seige weapons? PLEASE.

  • 1. This is an open-world RvR area with rewarding and fun objectives to secure.

    2. The world is large and the look, atmosphere, and color palette varies from zone to zone.

    3. 4-11. In this video, I'm level 11 with really good gear.

    4. No. The game zones are divided into "tiers", 1-11, 12-21, and so on. One you level out of a tier, you can't RvR in a lower tier.

    5. The siege weapons are effective. They're easy to use and target, and they do solid damage without being game-breaking.

  • u have no idea how fucking pissed off i am right now -_- i tryed signing up for the beta on the 7th but someone idk wtf had my email so now i tryed again and they never sent the message 2 the other email i typed in -_- do u know how i can get in contact with them? and find out wtf is going on cuz i dont wana type my reason for beta again it was perfect XD lol

  • It's actually too late to get into closed beta but it might be possible to get into Open beta provided that you pre-ordered the game and have the relevant code.

  • ya man i got it i fullyed payed it off XD but its not working lol i forgot i tryed for the closed bate back when my computer was trash and they rejected me so now i cant use my email 2 get into the open bate :(

  • lol np man u rocked a ShadowWarrior also ur lucky u can play beta i gota w8 till 7th since i pre ordered wish i could play now lol....yo but whats the name of the first song u use?

  • 1st: "Last Things" - KMFDM

    2nd: "Control" - MDFMK

  • dang ShadowWarriors are sexy im so lvling 1 after a WarriorPriest...gg man

  • Thanks. Yeah Warrior Priest is a lot of fun too; quite challenging.

  • hey man awesome vid... wat program u use to capture it?

  • I used fraps for recording, but even with a decent PC, I had to set the framerate to 20fps and turn off sound.

    In fact, there was another 1:30 or so of footage that I trimmed simply because my framerate dropped to 1-3 fps, and I was basically playing a slideshow at that point.

  • if u guys wanna watch in high def, add &fmt=18 to the end of URL makes it look wayyy better.

  • Thanks a ton for this.

    I'll add it to the video description later. :)

    <3

  • no probelm man, by the way, nice playstyle/vid, thanks for the upload.

  • After seeing this great clip, my main will definitely be SW. Thanks for taking the time to make it.

    Also, I liked the song alot. What's the name of the band & song?

    Thanks!

  • You're welcome.

    More will follow once open beta starts, but I'll be playing Destruction from now on, so I'm not certain what careers I'll be posting.

    I'm looking at Zealot, Chosen, and Marauder as my top choices for release, but I'm still undecided. They're all too good.

    At first, I was dead-set on a ranged class for sieges, but melee is so fun, and I'm sure I can make any career work.

    1st song - "Last Things" - KMFDM

    2nd song - "Control" - MDFMK

  • yes its not cool to see that arc wen the target is 10 m away .. they could have put a distance control there so wen the target is far away u can arc

  • Yeah it would be nice if the arrow didn't arc when firing at close targets.

    It looks kind of funny that way.

  • Great video and skill. Nice music aswell.

    Would the SW make a good damage dealer (compared to the BW) or is it more a hybrid class?

  • I wouldn't call Shadow Warrior a hybrid, more like Ranged DPS/utility.

    BW has higher burst damage and is more fragile.

  • Great video mate, nice to see someone who knows whats PVP about :)

    I cant wait to run a SW this style (well maybe with a litte less jumpin ;P ) For me it looks like the ultimate killing machine when played properly :D

  • Thanks :)

  • one more question. i was wondering if sw's were good at mele, and my real question, if i am going for a dps class that can do damage but also has good survivalbility should i go w/ a white lion or sw? i dont know much about either.

  • While White Lions have better armor, I'd wager that a Shadow Warrior has a ton more survivability provided you are hyper-vigilant and evasive.

    Since you're at range, you can see people coming a mile away if you constantly pan your camera. So you can just run.

    The only ones you won't see coming are Witch Elves since they can stealth one a minute or so, and smart players who set up ambushes and attack from funny angles.

    And you can outwit those guys. I'd say range is better if you're smart.

  • was the char in the vid a male or female?

  • Male.  It's difficult to tell with elves. :)

  • I accidentally removed a comment from someone who said they'd seen the high-res version.

    I'm glad you liked it. :)

  • Hey man, Thx for great vidio :) best SW movie iv seen so far, you can handel the class well. im gonna roll SW on EA. take care buddy

  • Thanks. I'm glad you liked it. :)

  • i am thinking about sw or sm. could you tell me your thoughts on both. i was leaning towards sm but i have heard they are more of a surviving class and not a dps class. the sw looks more dps which is what im going for

  • Basically, what it comes down to for me is, tanks die a lot. You're forced to rely a great deal on healing, and your healers may not be up to the task.

    With a ranged class, if you play well, you will not die. Period. When you occasionally do die, it's no big deal.

    Tanks aren't DPS classes in this game, but, with the correct tactics and stats, all tanks can produce effective DPS, at the cost of survivability.

    You won't have the burst that a DPS class has however, but good, consistent dps.

  • Does the SW always arc the bow like that in Scout stance? Really takes me out of the game (watching) when their target is so close). Just mho tho. to each his own. But is it always like that in Scout? Thanks!

  • Well, you can use "Eagle Eye", the 2.0 cast DD shot in any stance, and yes it always arcs.

    The stances each have abilities that are specific to that particular stance, but many of the abilities can be used in two out of three, or all three stances.

    Scout = 10% Range increase and + Ballistic skill

    Assault = +100% Armor and + Melee Weapon Skill

    Skirmish = +Toughness, and +5% crit chance.

    I usually stay in Skirmish stance for the +5% crit and +Toughness, all the stances have their uses.

  • my prefrence's probally go shadow warrior, warrior priest, rune priest , engineer then iron breaker and maybe sword master

  • I agree, there are too many great careers on Order side to choose just one.

    I quite possibly might be rolling a tank. :)

  • From the very beginning i wanted to play a Shadow Warrior, but over time i've seen alot of potential in Bright Wizard as well. And also the Dwarf Engineer looked cool, but he seem to be the kind of character thay stays in 1 area. Shadow Warrior seem to be better than Bright Wizard in a way that he can counter melee classes better.. But i may be way off, since the only experience i've got is from movies. Whats your opinion?

  • Well, one of the things that excites me about Shadow Warrior, is that they are skirmishers. Skirmishers exist in virtually every medieval RTS game I've played, but I've never seen them in an MMO.

    Basically, you're a mobile, lightly armored, short range melee support that specializes in harassing the enemy front lines.

    But, you also have the long range abilities and burst damage to wreck Sorcerers and healers who like to DPS.

    Most of my kills were on Sorcs, and Zealots on the front lines.

  • hey coolvideo, smooth. can you msg me your system specs? Thanks~

  • CPU: Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHz

    VGA: 8800GTS 512 MB (G92) oc'd 740/990 -core/ram

    RAM: 2GB GSkill pc6400 memory

    The rest is minor details like hard drive and optical drives and stuff, and most of those parts are really generic in my system.

    If I had a nicer rig, I could record in better quality. This vid is fairly low res, and the framerate is capped at 20 fps.

    I also record without sound, which is why I added music.

  • Could you list the songs used. I liked them a lot.

  • 1) "Last Things" - KMFDM

    2) "Control" - MDFMK

  • I don't mean to poke fun at the tactical situation threw the video. But its kinda poke'ish and just mob'ish back and forth(As an Army View not yourself). I haven't even played the thing but I'm guessing you were going for healers and what not. Though it just, the flow was way off it felt. Maybe its just the skirmish zone or map, Though I know you used skirmish stance a lot, have you tried the "Hide in a bush" Tactic in Scouting Stance yet? How did that go?

  • Well, skirmish stance can still be stronger than scout stance, even when casting abilities like Eagle Eye. The reason is, Skirmish stance add 5% crit chance.

    Scout Stance adds 10% more range, and makes your shots harder to block/do more damage.

    As for the stationary thing, I do it all the time, but I don't use bushes. I just flank people and fire at them from places they don't expect. Like the Zealot I killed around 1:14. I panned away so I could root that Marauder, but I got him. hehe

  • Sorcerer or Bright Wizard have the highest potential. burst damage of any class if I understand correctly.

    Witch Hunters and Witch Elves by design are supposed to have higher burst, but I find Sorc and BW to be more effective in that they never have to be in melee range, which can be a huge liability in this game.

  • sorry if i already posted a similar comment, i am not sure if it was posted. Does the Squig herder do similar damage?

  • No worries.

    The damage is similar, but given that the Shadow Warrior doesn't have to rely on a dodgy pet as part of it's DPS, I'd say the Shadow Warrior does better damage.

  • how is the damage compared to the Squig Herder? is it better or worse? and if the SW's damage is better is the SH's damage range close to that of the SW's damage range?

  • Shadow Warrior's do more bow damage than Squig Herders, and since I find the pet the to be unreliable, and therefore, an unreliable source of damage, the Shadow Warrior is far superior in my opinion.

    The same can be said of the Marauder in comparison with the White Lion. The White Lion, while sharing the same class Archetype is forced to rely upon an annoying pet whose controls are unresponsive at present.

    I'm hoping at launch, they'll have the pet mechanics worked out properly.

  • so who doe the most dmg ?? bw or shadow warrior at tier lvls ?

  • Bright Wizard and Sorceress have the highest ranged DPS. But they're squishier and damage themselves from time to time when they cast.

    Witch Hunter probably has the highest melee DPS.

    Witch Elf is supposed to be on par with Witch Hunter, but I am not exaggerating at all when I say that I can count on my fingers how many times I've been killed by Witch Elves.

    Witch Hunters are way nastier imo. They have a DoT finishing move that does close to 500 damage in tier 1 when every has 1-1.5k hp.

  • It looks almost like Third Person Shooter :D

  • Nice video. How is the damage of the shadow warrior?

  • Pretty sick. In tier 1, you don't get your bread and butter damage skills, but once you get "Festering Arrow" + the tactic that makes its damage ignore enemy resistances, you can get some pretty sick numbers.

    I find that SW does OK damage in tier also however. For ridiculous ranged damage however, you want to play Bright Wizard or Sorceress.

    They can get up to a +50% crit chance/+100% crit damage pretty much at the players discretion.

    But they're at a higher risk, and die more often.

  • Bad? At least this felt like a game and not some lame click competition :>

    I also have a similar playstyle in WaR beta that I adopted from WoW constant PvP and guess what ... it works, very efficient and with fast reactions you can help your side more than two players of same class , that just stand still letting themself get hit while keyboard turnin.

    Sorry for grammar mistakes.

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