"Indeed, the failed effort to close Guantanamo was reflective of the aspects of Obama’s leadership style that continue to distress his liberal base — a willingness to allow room for compromise and a passivity that at times permits opponents to set the agenda." --Washington Post, April 23, 2011
Liberals and progressives are now collectively shitting themselves because they realize America is on to their lies. The mainstream media in this Country is a joke and people are starting to realize it. They realize that you push your agenda behind the P.C. and racist armor. If someone disagrees with you then you call them a racist. Well, my aclu friends, those days will soon be over. You have awoken a sleeping giant. A giant that is bigger, smarter, stronger and more mentally tough than you.
Your whole argument mind blowing and ignorant. First, this ultra, nut job, wacko progressive video starts with "in a report by a UN panel". Well, there is your first problem genius. The UN is nothing more than a bunch of trust fund misfits with too much time on their hands who wouldn't know how to defend right from wrong if someone held a gun to their heads. They base their decisions on the politically correct misguided liberal views of Europe instead of common sense. You are a disgrace to all!!
IN RESPONSE TO BEALE64: Your opening sentence is the problem because you leave no room for common sense. You say "the detainees at gitmo are not terrorists". Do you really believe that? Do you really believe we would pay to hold "innocent" people? What is wrong with Gitmo? Yes, these people need trials, but not in NY. Do you think these scumbags are boy scouts? If they could they would cut your head off just like Daniel Pearl! Answer me one question. Where were you on 911 when the towers fell?
Are we going to start shutting everything down where human rights were violated? Lets shut down the University of Alabama and Texas while we're at it. Personally, I don't think anything was violated and this debate is just another liberal offensive. Liberals just love to put their agendas above what is best for the country. We don't need lectures on morality and human rights from baby killing race baitors who've been weakening our country since the start of the war on terror.
dumbass , every time i here the word liberal agenda i want to puke there is no war on terror just some white idiots waving flags and crying about there freedom, tell that to a native american you jerkoff
Baby killing race-baitors? It's funny how stupid you actually are, but then I realize you're real, and then I throw up a little.
Republicans, or more specifically FOX news commentators, are the most recent race-baitors.
War-on-terror? There isn't one. A war is generally between two states. There has ALWAYS been extremism and terrorism. Even in the United States, but when the actions were done by white-AMERICANS, it's not that big of a deal.
I agree with the proposal to close the prison, which is no doubt a place where human rights are being violated, yes! the standards of justice have been lowered against these folks and they are doing it in Cuban soil, don't care about the naval base might as well stay there forever...but the prison camp delta should close down.
Obama is backing what the Bush Administration started ten fold. He's a Fascist power tripping parasite that's all for world governance. Who ever says different is uneducated on the big picture. Obama says he will do one thing just to win the people, then turn around and do the reverse. He's a puppet being lead by the puppet master.
NOBODY WANTS THEM IN GUANTANAMO BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT BE TERRORIST
NOBODY WANTS THEM IN STATES BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT BE TERRORISTS
ITS FUNNY BECAUSE WE TAKE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONVICTED SERIAL KILLERS RAPISTS MOLESTERS IN OUR STATES BUT IF THEYRE FOREIGN AND PRESUMED TERRORISTS THEY CANT HAVE THEM IN THE STATES
EVERY STATE ASSUMES THEYRE TERRORISTS AS WELL.
TO EVERYONE WHO SAYS THEY DONT WANT TERRORISTS IN AMERICA BUT DONT WANT THEM OVERSEAS
I really want you Conservative idiots to know something: The detainees at Guantanamo Bay are not terrorists, they're terror suspects. And since the year 2001, only three detainees were convicted terrorists. So, in seven-and-a-half years, we only got three guys and you think Guantanamo Bay is a success? By the way, why hasn't there been any terrorist attacks since George W. Bush released two-thirds of the detainees?
We built a prison to hold terrorist, some of whom were directly implicated in 9/11, then we rough some up in order to try and gain information on possible future attacks! OMG we are terrible people! Remember President Truman order the use of atomic weapons on civilian targets: Hiroshima and Nagasaki killing a couple hundred thousand innocent Japanese civilians. Keep GITMO open, treat these guys like POW's and hold them until the war(s) are over..................
millitary commisions are another bush administration war crime under common article 3 of the geneeva conventions. Execute the war criminals bush and chenny!
A torture camp? water boarding was only used on 3 people who were the highest ranking terrorist there. But, democrats make it sound like it was used every day.
If it were NORTH KOREA or IRAN, they would chop their enemies up and feed them to the lions in the zoo. PROBLEM SOLVED! Don't waste tax payers money by feeding terrorists, giving them access to even a library of videos to watch movies! What the fuck!!!
Obama and his wife are COMMUNISTS and ANTI- AMERICAN! THEY WANT TO BRING TERRORISTS CLOSER ON AMERICAN SOIL to RUIN AMERICA!
We have enough crime in AMERICA with gangs, drugs, murders, we do not need TERRORISTS TO COME TO AMERICA AND START BLOWING UP MORE BUILDINGS LIKE THEY DID TO THE TWIN TOWERS IN NEW YORK!!
Problem...THESE ARE NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS! THEY ARE NOT CRIMINALS, THEY ARE NOT POWS.
This sounds all idealistically cushy feely great, until you close gitmo, release the bastards on US soil and they blow up a school, or release them back to their own countries where they pick up AK47s again and start killing our troops. Thank you liberals for caring more about those terrorist bastards' "rights" than the lives of our soldiers and citizens. sarc/
a torture camp? the fucking UN is full of bullshit! they complain about our prisons, but yet they have not seen terrorist prison camps. People are be-headed, they are decapitated, they are tortured for no reason, they kill innocent civilians, and they murder. we do not in fact, torture. water-boarding is not torture. It does not cause pain and it cannot kill people. Maybe the UN should shut the fuck up and pay attention to what is happening around the world, instead of America.
So Obama want's to let gitmo terrorists run the streets of America, to "start a new life"....He has no brains...and i believe he is NOT ready to lead our country...
Completely agree! Especially when the governments that are screaming for these murderers to be let go have in the past and most likely in the future torture Americans and there own people.
i believe your right...its not ethical to torture...Terrorists will be punished in the after life most likely...I think we should try to lock them up in a room and teach them about Christianity and make them ask for forgiveness....But i do not like teorists at all
Okay people, obviously it would be a bad idea to let everyone go loose, but why not give them a trial... why not give them POW status! Its proven that when put under pressure (aka torture) you can get people to say anything, including confess to something they didn't do. I'm not saying all these people aren't terrorist, but obviously there is a more humane way to do this. If we just shoot them on the spot and torture THEM, are we doing the same thing we criticize THEM for??? Think people!
POW stands for Prisoner of War. Terrorists are not protected under the Geneva convention which most people claim protects them. Do some research it protects NON-Combatants and uniformed soldiers. Terrorists are not soldiers they are murderers. You also state that we are doing the same thing we accuse them of! Really we do not send troops in to PINPOINT civilians! Do civilians get hurt unfortunately yes they do but every precaution is taken to keep them safe from harm.
As I reflect upon American crimes against humanity today, in places like Gitmo & Abu Ghraib prison, it is no surprise that America is forever destined to carry the sign of Cain for the Hiroshima & Nagasaki bombings!
The longest America has gone without bombing someone is 2 years; America simply used the Nuremberg show-trials to hide itself in a haze of moral superlatives!
This is disgusting. We should shoot on sight then we wouldnt have to worry about their trials or their detention. Hell , no one would even know they are gone.
Terrorists in Gitmo aren't human beings. They're predatory killing machines who have no regard whatsoever for human life. They are not legal soldiers and they are not protected by the Geneva Conventions. We should question them on the battlefield and then summarily shoot them. We did it during WW2 and we should do it now.
And in WW2 those men were soldiers. In the initial invasion of Iraq, the US military showed surrendering uniformed soldiers great respect, even allowing Iraqi officers to keep their sidearms to keep their own men in line.
Just like the U.N. the U.S. government has been infiltrated by Socialist leftist idiots and will destroy this country eventually. And WE, THE PEOPLE are just silent or just sit quietly while these people are taking our government and make this country a tyrannical country.
I pray that ACLU members and NAACP will be attacked first by these terrorist when they are released here in the US. Their leftist agenda has gone too far. If these terrorist have their way in our US Courts, we are doomed as a country. They will use our laws against us.
Obviously, Obama is not going to let these people go free. Your ignorance and delusion is kind of funny. Obama said within 1 year, Gitmo will be closed. He obviously already knows where the prisoners are going, but it would be dumb to announce it a year in advance. That is just asking for problems. Imagine if he said that they will set up a prison in Kuwait. The terrorists would have a year to plan how to blow it up, break in, etc.
ACLU has gone overboard to giving these terrorist rights as US Citizens. These are the people who killed our military personnel. Secondly, these are civilian combatants and terrorist who does not belong to any regular army. WHy would these leftist idiots want to give them rights according to Geneva Conventions. The leaders in this country has gone NUTS. IDIOTS!!!
LOL yeah close guantanamo bay! yeeeey -terrorists you are welcome to the U.S.S.A. united socialists states of america and blew up as many american people as you want to, because finally we have a president who will stand by your side and defend you to the fullest extent of his power so go ahead feel free to bring as many suicide bombers as you want, our most mercifull lord messiah barack obama will always stand by your side and who knows you may even end up getting a green card LOLala verga puto
Do anyone of you stupid morons realize how many men bleed to keep our moral standing by not torturing, are you all completely mad. Never mind the fact that the constitution is based on human rights. What if they decided each of you were terrorist would you be able to convice them other wise. Try this on for size as well you mental migets, try waterboarding yourselves and tell me what you think after. If they are guilty of anything then prove it, by our laws. Other then that let them go.
You and Obama are Marxist dirt bag traitors. I would bet any amount of money, if the towelheads had flown there planes into a NAACP building, Obama would have not given the order to close the place down, HELL NO, he would go over there and BUST A CAP in there ass. Then CNBC would come on the air and do a 48 hour brain wash news cast saying he did the right thing by killing those bad,bad people.
They should be tortured on live television where their families and all other terrorists can see what happens to those low life scum sucking worthless pieces of worm ridden filth that attacked our countryl.
Even if you were to be given a sentence and proven innocent, you would still have to sent back to Guantanamo. It is horrible that this is happening, but it is the sad truth. America - truly the land of the free?
Gitmo = no habeas corpus & many died during torture
New book by Former Gitmo Sec Off writes that our torturing at Gitmo is not only a heinous & useless abomination; it is in fact the direct cause of the deaths of over 3000 US Soldiers!
Why is there torture by Americans?
Likely these abominations of war & torture are merely an extension of the typical Americans brutal mind; a mind corrupted by a pathological disassociation of compassion that is inherent to the corporate working stiff
Sami al-Hajj, Khaled al Masri, the list of completely innocent people picked up and thrown in Gitmo goes on and on. Bush has even managed to piss off Canada by picking up innocent Canadian Maher Arar and throwing him in a Syrian torture chamber for a year before he was released. Sorry, we got the wrong guy. George Bush hates us because of our freedoms.
I thik the ACLU is great but the people in GITMO probably are terrorists. Why else would our military want to keep them, torture them, deny them rights, and even kill so many?
I saw a movie called "lion of the desert" Anthony Queen captured Italian solders in the battle field and he was about to let them go...one of his solders said "we should kill them...they do it to us" Anthony Queen (as Omar Al-mukhtar) replied: They are not our teachers. And the same apply here...even though they might be terrorists;...they should not be our teachers in how we should conduct ourselves and administer justice...
I never ever said or thought "we should do it to them because they did it to us"
I only said we should only do it if it would save one American life. We don't have to use fear or even cruel torture. Certain drugs have their ways of drawing the truth out from a partially conscious psyche.
Yeah, okay. I understand were you are coming from. My problem is, what justice system do we try the terror suspects in front of? There is no international judicial system that has the power to enforce punishment. Yes, they can rule, but as far as the system goes, they cannot force punishment because the home state of the suspects is the only place that can enforce rulings. It's called sovereignty. Anarchy of the international system is what prevents us from closing the prison. Sucks.
i just saw the movie "W." a couple days ago. in it, it seemed like cheney was the one who really started it and bush didnt read through the plans for gitmo completely. either way, gitmo needs to be shut down. however, i do believe some people in there r terrorists. they should move everyone to maximum security prisons or something and give them a speedy trial like were supposed to. they also need to interrogate them, but not torture them. what ever happened to the polygraph?
I wouldn't go that far. I have no idea why Bush wasn't impeached though or we let this happen in the first place. Too bad Bush used the same "rush in there scare everybody so we can get through what ever we want as fast as we can with as little debate as possible" attitude about the financial meltdown.
I don't know. Some people in there really are terrorists, I believe. Our government is corrupt but not everyone in the military. I totally think the ACLU is a GREAT institution but if you have to torture a few souls who threaten the lives of thousands of americans or even one US soldier I am inclined to say DO IT. I do NOT want to lower or standands of justice but at the same time I don't want to lower our effectiveness at stopping potential terrorism. I guess it's a tricky fine line.
We should not close Gitmo because the UN says we should. They have no authority over us.
We should close Gitmo because WE want to close Gitmo. Screw everybody else - We are not seeking their approval. We should close Gitmo because AMERICANS believe in liberty and justice, and see it as a violation of our philosophy of freedom.
I fear that it sets a bad example. We are a sovereign nation. If we start saying that our laws and rules bow to international laws and rules made by non-Americans, we've lost our sovereignty.
And I don't know about you, but I think that our Constitution is better than all the other ones out there - and I don't want to lose it.
Besides, we have more than enough grounds in the Constitution (it's pretty clear on 'Cruel and Unusual Punishment') without bowing to the international community.
We agree that GITMO should be closed; however, disregarding what the UN says should not an option. Isn't there a UN resolution calling for Iran to quit enriching uranium? According to your thinking, Iran could do whatever it wants. How can you expect Iran to comply with the UN if the USA does not?
I don't know. Some people in GITMO really are terrorists, I believe. Our government is corrupt but not everyone in the military is. I totally think the ACLU is a GREAT institution but if you have to torture a few souls who threaten the lives of thousands of americans or even one US soldier I am inclined to say DO IT. I do NOT want to lower or standands of justice but at the same time I don't want to lower our effectiveness at stopping potential terrorism. I guess it's a tricky fine line.
The UN is a useless organization. Case in point - Iran.
UN tells Iran to stop enriching Uranium, Iran (of course) does not, because the UN has no teeth. What is the UN going to do? Go to war? Of course not.
The UN will impose sanctions (which is an act of war anyway), which doesn't hurt the ruling class. It starves the children, and forces the poor out of their homes.
So Iran is going to do whatever it wants REGARDLESS of whether we listen to the UN or not.
Israel is going to attack Iran while Bush is in office soon!They don't trust Obama!Plus Russia will be finished putting in a new high tech missle defense system for Iran the 1st of next year.They finally got Olmert to resign after 2 yrs of pressure.70% of Israelis
have wanted him Olmert out since he showed incredible weakness when Hezbollah launched over 2,000 rockets at them from Lebanon!They
want HARDLINER Benjamin Netanyahu back in power.He & his party are in a struugle with Olmerts
Nobody listens to the UN. Why do we have it? The only thing its good for is undermining the sovereignty of legitimate nations on the grounds of some abstract power called "international consensus".
... this while China and Russia (and the US) has veto power, and while a good portion of the world still operates under various dictatorial regimes.
Not only doesn't the world regularly -not- listen to the UN, it's probably better off that way. Let's close it down.
But there are places where the US interrogators use worse torchuring methods than what happened in Guantanamo, namely those in Djibouti, Ethiopia, Kenya, South Africa, Philippines and Russia. and I want to see not only Guantanamo closed but I want to see all the remaining closed.
Don't forget Romania. That's where the really bad CIA-run ones were.
UN "peacekeepers", IE - foreign troops, are regularly sent into sovereign lands. There, they have diplomatic immunity, and have been known to RAPE civilians.
This while they decry rape camps in other countries.
UN Officials steal millions in foreign aid. It's wrought with scandal.
And yet they decry corrupt governments elsewhere.
There's a distinct double standard, that includes the US. Our torture camps seem OK to them.
As I have said, you hypocrites pick on Israel, but you say nothing about Robert Mugabe turning a once-beautiful Rhodesia into the hellhole known as Zimbabwe. You "human rights" people say NOTHING about the persecution of Copts in Egypt or Maronites of Lebanon. You show no outrage when Iran stones women and kills homosexuals.
For too long we have sacrificed freedom and basic decency in the name of almighty fear. For too long we have listened to the siren song of "there's danger, do whatever it takes, and to hell with human rights!"
America is supposed to be the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. Are we brave enough to be free, or do we throw it all away because we are afraid?
What's too long? seven years? I voted for Obama but if he captures bin laden I personally hopes he burns and tortures him for months until he gives up all the plans he may have set afoot that would hurt even ONE american.
And that's what Obama will do... if all he cares about is thumping his chest and trying to convince people how knee-shudderingly tough he is. But if he wants any good intelligence, he won't.
Torture is a great way to get people to confess to witchcraft.
"AAAAHHHHHHH YES I FLY ON A BROOMSTICK!"
"AAAAHHHHHHH YES MY NEIGHBOR'S A WITCH TOO!!"
"AAAAHHHHHHH YES SATAN'S DORK IS COLD AND SCALY!!!"
It's worthless for getting anything that can actually protect Americans.
I am not sure what you are saying SailorBlossom. You want Obama to close GITMO because the intelligence we are getting from there is bad, right? Like forcing people to confess to witchcraft and things that are untrue? You may be right but I think our military, even through torture, could surely sift through the lies and coerced admissions to find relevant information.
We can do this,let us regain our dignity as a constitutional nation of equality loving Americans and close this torture chamber called guantanomo TODAY!
It is outrageous! How would you feel if you were held there,tortured for yrs. without a fair trial,without basic human dignity/rights? This is Bush evil at it's worst!
Slumber*Time is over, N.O.W. - We*Stretch before the true work begins, take stock of the situation, a bit of a rest and then We*Play, as the cycle of human life, fully takes on its mantle of compassionate humanity...
It appears that the devil is in the details. Today the White House floated a trial balloon saying it is considering reestablishing the military commissions it so sanctimoniously had cancelled for 13 detainees. It appears the president is learning that it is harder to run the country than to run for office. Thank God the president is not as naive as your average MSNBC viewer.
Obama said he's close it and still hasn't. WTF is the hold up?
MegaRobin321 2 months ago
This is exactly what i was looking for. thank you for this.
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"Indeed, the failed effort to close Guantanamo was reflective of the aspects of Obama’s leadership style that continue to distress his liberal base — a willingness to allow room for compromise and a passivity that at times permits opponents to set the agenda." --Washington Post, April 23, 2011
hookalakah 9 months ago
Oh, and by the way, I just signed your petition. I am the one who signed under the name Mr. OvermydeadbodyGofuckyourself!
MrLandscraper 1 year ago
Liberals and progressives are now collectively shitting themselves because they realize America is on to their lies. The mainstream media in this Country is a joke and people are starting to realize it. They realize that you push your agenda behind the P.C. and racist armor. If someone disagrees with you then you call them a racist. Well, my aclu friends, those days will soon be over. You have awoken a sleeping giant. A giant that is bigger, smarter, stronger and more mentally tough than you.
MrLandscraper 1 year ago
Your whole argument mind blowing and ignorant. First, this ultra, nut job, wacko progressive video starts with "in a report by a UN panel". Well, there is your first problem genius. The UN is nothing more than a bunch of trust fund misfits with too much time on their hands who wouldn't know how to defend right from wrong if someone held a gun to their heads. They base their decisions on the politically correct misguided liberal views of Europe instead of common sense. You are a disgrace to all!!
MrLandscraper 1 year ago
IN RESPONSE TO BEALE64: Your opening sentence is the problem because you leave no room for common sense. You say "the detainees at gitmo are not terrorists". Do you really believe that? Do you really believe we would pay to hold "innocent" people? What is wrong with Gitmo? Yes, these people need trials, but not in NY. Do you think these scumbags are boy scouts? If they could they would cut your head off just like Daniel Pearl! Answer me one question. Where were you on 911 when the towers fell?
MrLandscraper 1 year ago
I want to close Gitmo
But where will keep the detaines until trial?
GovernmentSham912 1 year ago
The only petition i will sign is death by hanging for these Islamic rodents.
Dblitzen 1 year ago
Are we going to start shutting everything down where human rights were violated? Lets shut down the University of Alabama and Texas while we're at it. Personally, I don't think anything was violated and this debate is just another liberal offensive. Liberals just love to put their agendas above what is best for the country. We don't need lectures on morality and human rights from baby killing race baitors who've been weakening our country since the start of the war on terror.
hatfisc 1 year ago
dumbass , every time i here the word liberal agenda i want to puke there is no war on terror just some white idiots waving flags and crying about there freedom, tell that to a native american you jerkoff
looolz26 1 year ago
Baby killing race-baitors? It's funny how stupid you actually are, but then I realize you're real, and then I throw up a little.
Republicans, or more specifically FOX news commentators, are the most recent race-baitors.
War-on-terror? There isn't one. A war is generally between two states. There has ALWAYS been extremism and terrorism. Even in the United States, but when the actions were done by white-AMERICANS, it's not that big of a deal.
tumadros 1 year ago
Deadline is here barack,its still open -another lie perhaps ?
Dblitzen 2 years ago
I agree with the proposal to close the prison, which is no doubt a place where human rights are being violated, yes! the standards of justice have been lowered against these folks and they are doing it in Cuban soil, don't care about the naval base might as well stay there forever...but the prison camp delta should close down.
EstradaBank 2 years ago
Just Shoot them & close Gitmo. Problem solved!
sogairborne 2 years ago
this is A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC not a democracy
RIEKSONE 2 years ago
Obama is backing what the Bush Administration started ten fold. He's a Fascist power tripping parasite that's all for world governance. Who ever says different is uneducated on the big picture. Obama says he will do one thing just to win the people, then turn around and do the reverse. He's a puppet being lead by the puppet master.
rewilkins2 2 years ago
NOBODY WANTS THEM IN GUANTANAMO BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT BE TERRORIST
NOBODY WANTS THEM IN STATES BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT BE TERRORISTS
ITS FUNNY BECAUSE WE TAKE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONVICTED SERIAL KILLERS RAPISTS MOLESTERS IN OUR STATES BUT IF THEYRE FOREIGN AND PRESUMED TERRORISTS THEY CANT HAVE THEM IN THE STATES
EVERY STATE ASSUMES THEYRE TERRORISTS AS WELL.
TO EVERYONE WHO SAYS THEY DONT WANT TERRORISTS IN AMERICA BUT DONT WANT THEM OVERSEAS
MAKE UP YOUR GOD DAMN MlND.
ZEROEVILDARKCOOL 2 years ago
I really want you Conservative idiots to know something: The detainees at Guantanamo Bay are not terrorists, they're terror suspects. And since the year 2001, only three detainees were convicted terrorists. So, in seven-and-a-half years, we only got three guys and you think Guantanamo Bay is a success? By the way, why hasn't there been any terrorist attacks since George W. Bush released two-thirds of the detainees?
Beale64 2 years ago 4
do you know anyone in guatanamo bay
then stfu
RIEKSONE 2 years ago
How many people do you know at Guantanamo Bay?
Beale64 2 years ago
@Beale64 dont breed
hatfisc 1 year ago
We built a prison to hold terrorist, some of whom were directly implicated in 9/11, then we rough some up in order to try and gain information on possible future attacks! OMG we are terrible people! Remember President Truman order the use of atomic weapons on civilian targets: Hiroshima and Nagasaki killing a couple hundred thousand innocent Japanese civilians. Keep GITMO open, treat these guys like POW's and hold them until the war(s) are over..................
Ustare411 2 years ago
thank you...fucking asshole liberals
strawberEfieldz4ever 2 years ago
millitary commisions are another bush administration war crime under common article 3 of the geneeva conventions. Execute the war criminals bush and chenny!
dsspike51 2 years ago
A torture camp? water boarding was only used on 3 people who were the highest ranking terrorist there. But, democrats make it sound like it was used every day.
redo123123 2 years ago
THEY CAN STAY AT MY HOUSE!
adsfgasdfvwdfv 2 years ago
If it were NORTH KOREA or IRAN, they would chop their enemies up and feed them to the lions in the zoo. PROBLEM SOLVED! Don't waste tax payers money by feeding terrorists, giving them access to even a library of videos to watch movies! What the fuck!!!
dan3956 2 years ago 2
OBAMA SHOULD CLose GITMO CAMP and THEN release all those TERRORISTS in HIS OWN BACKYARD in WASHINGTON. Don't bring terrorists to any states!!!!
dan3956 2 years ago 2
Obama and his wife are COMMUNISTS and ANTI- AMERICAN! THEY WANT TO BRING TERRORISTS CLOSER ON AMERICAN SOIL to RUIN AMERICA!
We have enough crime in AMERICA with gangs, drugs, murders, we do not need TERRORISTS TO COME TO AMERICA AND START BLOWING UP MORE BUILDINGS LIKE THEY DID TO THE TWIN TOWERS IN NEW YORK!!
dan3956 2 years ago
I AM SURE THE TERRORISTS TORTURED THE HELL OUT OF U.S. SOLDIERS WHEN CAPTURED TOO!
IF YOU ARE TOO WEAK TO DEFEND YOUR COUNTRY THAN YOU SHOULD NOT JOIN THE MILITARY FUCKING PANSY! MOVE TO AFGHANISTAN and HIDE OUT WITH THE TERRORISTS!
dan3956 2 years ago
put them in chicago and let them participate in a work release program so they can benefit the community.
f350powerstroke 2 years ago 2
Problem...THESE ARE NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS! THEY ARE NOT CRIMINALS, THEY ARE NOT POWS.
This sounds all idealistically cushy feely great, until you close gitmo, release the bastards on US soil and they blow up a school, or release them back to their own countries where they pick up AK47s again and start killing our troops. Thank you liberals for caring more about those terrorist bastards' "rights" than the lives of our soldiers and citizens. sarc/
Antiworld23 2 years ago
a torture camp? the fucking UN is full of bullshit! they complain about our prisons, but yet they have not seen terrorist prison camps. People are be-headed, they are decapitated, they are tortured for no reason, they kill innocent civilians, and they murder. we do not in fact, torture. water-boarding is not torture. It does not cause pain and it cannot kill people. Maybe the UN should shut the fuck up and pay attention to what is happening around the world, instead of America.
redskinsfaniam2 2 years ago 2
i was watching tv and i found out THEY GET TO EAT MCDONALDS WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!
and yet theyr complaining
mzh3000 2 years ago
So Obama want's to let gitmo terrorists run the streets of America, to "start a new life"....He has no brains...and i believe he is NOT ready to lead our country...
Rgunit21 2 years ago
Well said pinky6306. I totally agree!
jyoungblood3960 2 years ago
fuck it keep the place open torture terrorists, they killed 3,000 people
fawas92 2 years ago 2
Completely agree! Especially when the governments that are screaming for these murderers to be let go have in the past and most likely in the future torture Americans and there own people.
LightScout03 2 years ago 2
No matter how you look at it...........TORTURE is wrong!!! Period!!! THINK!!!
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jyoungblood3960 2 years ago
fuck you
fawas92 2 years ago
i believe your right...its not ethical to torture...Terrorists will be punished in the after life most likely...I think we should try to lock them up in a room and teach them about Christianity and make them ask for forgiveness....But i do not like teorists at all
Rgunit21 2 years ago
Yess!!!
Let's let these terrorists out!
Morgoth295 3 years ago
Okay people, obviously it would be a bad idea to let everyone go loose, but why not give them a trial... why not give them POW status! Its proven that when put under pressure (aka torture) you can get people to say anything, including confess to something they didn't do. I'm not saying all these people aren't terrorist, but obviously there is a more humane way to do this. If we just shoot them on the spot and torture THEM, are we doing the same thing we criticize THEM for??? Think people!
pinky6306 3 years ago 2
POW stands for Prisoner of War. Terrorists are not protected under the Geneva convention which most people claim protects them. Do some research it protects NON-Combatants and uniformed soldiers. Terrorists are not soldiers they are murderers. You also state that we are doing the same thing we accuse them of! Really we do not send troops in to PINPOINT civilians! Do civilians get hurt unfortunately yes they do but every precaution is taken to keep them safe from harm.
LightScout03 2 years ago
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As I reflect upon American crimes against humanity today, in places like Gitmo & Abu Ghraib prison, it is no surprise that America is forever destined to carry the sign of Cain for the Hiroshima & Nagasaki bombings!
The longest America has gone without bombing someone is 2 years; America simply used the Nuremberg show-trials to hide itself in a haze of moral superlatives!
sugarpuddin88 3 years ago
This is disgusting. We should shoot on sight then we wouldnt have to worry about their trials or their detention. Hell , no one would even know they are gone.
937irish 3 years ago
I don't understand the stupid herd keep saying Obama's closing Guantanamo. He's just changing the name and location of it!!!! Freaken retards!
By the way... I think we should close San Quentin... at least those rampaging murderers are American!
heliman29 3 years ago
How can you call them a terrorist if you don't even charge them? It's like calling someone guilty before you put them on trial.
scj16 3 years ago
Terrorists in Gitmo aren't human beings. They're predatory killing machines who have no regard whatsoever for human life. They are not legal soldiers and they are not protected by the Geneva Conventions. We should question them on the battlefield and then summarily shoot them. We did it during WW2 and we should do it now.
TysterS 3 years ago
And in WW2 those men were soldiers. In the initial invasion of Iraq, the US military showed surrendering uniformed soldiers great respect, even allowing Iraqi officers to keep their sidearms to keep their own men in line.
Back2BackJack 3 years ago
You shoot at a coalition soldier on the battle field:
-Gitmo till Al Quaeda surrenders
- Gitmo for life
-Death
Liberals need to educate themselves in a subject area in which they are woefully ignorant.
Kriegbell 3 years ago
IF YOU DON"T SUPPORT TERRORISTS YOU CAN GET OUT!
it feels so good saying this ...aaahhh.
inspktr51 3 years ago
Just like the U.N. the U.S. government has been infiltrated by Socialist leftist idiots and will destroy this country eventually. And WE, THE PEOPLE are just silent or just sit quietly while these people are taking our government and make this country a tyrannical country.
DarthMai 3 years ago 2
IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT OUR PRESIDENT YOU CAN GET OUT!
It feels so good saying this.
Joe402 3 years ago
I pray that ACLU members and NAACP will be attacked first by these terrorist when they are released here in the US. Their leftist agenda has gone too far. If these terrorist have their way in our US Courts, we are doomed as a country. They will use our laws against us.
DarthMai 3 years ago
Obviously, Obama is not going to let these people go free. Your ignorance and delusion is kind of funny. Obama said within 1 year, Gitmo will be closed. He obviously already knows where the prisoners are going, but it would be dumb to announce it a year in advance. That is just asking for problems. Imagine if he said that they will set up a prison in Kuwait. The terrorists would have a year to plan how to blow it up, break in, etc.
Shabaka87 3 years ago
That's a good idea. Kill those who think differently from you. You are brilliant!
Stevenlurvsjulie 2 years ago
ACLU has gone overboard to giving these terrorist rights as US Citizens. These are the people who killed our military personnel. Secondly, these are civilian combatants and terrorist who does not belong to any regular army. WHy would these leftist idiots want to give them rights according to Geneva Conventions. The leaders in this country has gone NUTS. IDIOTS!!!
DarthMai 3 years ago
LOL yeah close guantanamo bay! yeeeey -terrorists you are welcome to the U.S.S.A. united socialists states of america and blew up as many american people as you want to, because finally we have a president who will stand by your side and defend you to the fullest extent of his power so go ahead feel free to bring as many suicide bombers as you want, our most mercifull lord messiah barack obama will always stand by your side and who knows you may even end up getting a green card LOLala verga puto
inspktr51 3 years ago
fuck yobama
zillsbury 3 years ago
Do anyone of you stupid morons realize how many men bleed to keep our moral standing by not torturing, are you all completely mad. Never mind the fact that the constitution is based on human rights. What if they decided each of you were terrorist would you be able to convice them other wise. Try this on for size as well you mental migets, try waterboarding yourselves and tell me what you think after. If they are guilty of anything then prove it, by our laws. Other then that let them go.
Bruceas 3 years ago
You and Obama are Marxist dirt bag traitors. I would bet any amount of money, if the towelheads had flown there planes into a NAACP building, Obama would have not given the order to close the place down, HELL NO, he would go over there and BUST A CAP in there ass. Then CNBC would come on the air and do a 48 hour brain wash news cast saying he did the right thing by killing those bad,bad people.
StopThemNow08 3 years ago
Obama is just a piece of shit,plain and simple
rhs6520 3 years ago
This is stupid, does anyone realize how much Intel we get out of that place?
logg0n 3 years ago
Let the detainees live with Polosi and Reid.
Dblitzen 3 years ago
chop off thier heads then close it
scalplifter55 3 years ago
Have the trails and hang each one that deserves it!
golf7272 3 years ago
Keep it open!
vmahodge 3 years ago
You sir are a traitor to your country.
These animals torture and kill americans.
They deserve worse than torture.
They should be tortured on live television where their families and all other terrorists can see what happens to those low life scum sucking worthless pieces of worm ridden filth that attacked our countryl.
darkfall35 3 years ago
Close it Obama! ;)
MothaFuckthePolice 3 years ago
What if these POOR detainees put your son against a wall and shot him? At least they will get a trial of sorts before they hang them.
HitmanStanDaMan 3 years ago
read "Lone Survivor"
by former US Navy SEAL Marcus Luttrell
this is the kinda crap that got those 19 soldiers killed
and unconstitutional?
how about Obama running for president with all the evidence pointing to the fact that he is constitutionally ineligible
relientkse 3 years ago
The only evidence for your baseless reasoning is sheer tinfoil mania.
mixmatosis 3 years ago
Even if you were to be given a sentence and proven innocent, you would still have to sent back to Guantanamo. It is horrible that this is happening, but it is the sad truth. America - truly the land of the free?
catsboyscandy 3 years ago
Where are the protests against radical Islam?
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
Gitmo = no habeas corpus & many died during torture
New book by Former Gitmo Sec Off writes that our torturing at Gitmo is not only a heinous & useless abomination; it is in fact the direct cause of the deaths of over 3000 US Soldiers!
Why is there torture by Americans?
Likely these abominations of war & torture are merely an extension of the typical Americans brutal mind; a mind corrupted by a pathological disassociation of compassion that is inherent to the corporate working stiff
sugarpuddin88 3 years ago
BOMB Gitmo after all personnel have been removed.
WIMHOA 3 years ago
Sami al-Hajj, Khaled al Masri, the list of completely innocent people picked up and thrown in Gitmo goes on and on. Bush has even managed to piss off Canada by picking up innocent Canadian Maher Arar and throwing him in a Syrian torture chamber for a year before he was released. Sorry, we got the wrong guy. George Bush hates us because of our freedoms.
thepatriotacts83 3 years ago
And I voted for Obama. I just don't think it is possible to close the prison without endangering the world.
softballanday33 3 years ago
softball, If you're going to keep it open, you're endangering American citizens to their government. We have rights.
MooseOfReason 3 years ago
Did you read my other comment? I'm not saying it should be open. I'm saying that it probably is not possible for it to close in our lifetime.
softballanday33 3 years ago
I agree with softballanday3
I thik the ACLU is great but the people in GITMO probably are terrorists. Why else would our military want to keep them, torture them, deny them rights, and even kill so many?
Anus2Mouth 3 years ago
I saw a movie called "lion of the desert" Anthony Queen captured Italian solders in the battle field and he was about to let them go...one of his solders said "we should kill them...they do it to us" Anthony Queen (as Omar Al-mukhtar) replied: They are not our teachers. And the same apply here...even though they might be terrorists;...they should not be our teachers in how we should conduct ourselves and administer justice...
someoneinlv 3 years ago
I never ever said or thought "we should do it to them because they did it to us"
I only said we should only do it if it would save one American life. We don't have to use fear or even cruel torture. Certain drugs have their ways of drawing the truth out from a partially conscious psyche.
Anus2Mouth 3 years ago
Yeah, okay. I understand were you are coming from. My problem is, what justice system do we try the terror suspects in front of? There is no international judicial system that has the power to enforce punishment. Yes, they can rule, but as far as the system goes, they cannot force punishment because the home state of the suspects is the only place that can enforce rulings. It's called sovereignty. Anarchy of the international system is what prevents us from closing the prison. Sucks.
softballanday33 3 years ago
i just saw the movie "W." a couple days ago. in it, it seemed like cheney was the one who really started it and bush didnt read through the plans for gitmo completely. either way, gitmo needs to be shut down. however, i do believe some people in there r terrorists. they should move everyone to maximum security prisons or something and give them a speedy trial like were supposed to. they also need to interrogate them, but not torture them. what ever happened to the polygraph?
333poison07 3 years ago
y los gringos hablan de democracia y respeto a los derechos humanos....eso solo mientras les conviene
rblascll 3 years ago
I Hope America returns to democracy, because what the US Empire does affects all other contries.
darkapitude 3 years ago
Hitler was kidding around compared to this.
mcgrawHNIC 3 years ago
I wouldn't go that far. I have no idea why Bush wasn't impeached though or we let this happen in the first place. Too bad Bush used the same "rush in there scare everybody so we can get through what ever we want as fast as we can with as little debate as possible" attitude about the financial meltdown.
DouglasinPhily 3 years ago
I don't know. Some people in there really are terrorists, I believe. Our government is corrupt but not everyone in the military. I totally think the ACLU is a GREAT institution but if you have to torture a few souls who threaten the lives of thousands of americans or even one US soldier I am inclined to say DO IT. I do NOT want to lower or standands of justice but at the same time I don't want to lower our effectiveness at stopping potential terrorism. I guess it's a tricky fine line.
Anus2Mouth 3 years ago
We should not close Gitmo because the UN says we should. They have no authority over us.
We should close Gitmo because WE want to close Gitmo. Screw everybody else - We are not seeking their approval. We should close Gitmo because AMERICANS believe in liberty and justice, and see it as a violation of our philosophy of freedom.
Jaspian 3 years ago 2
But until this happens it will take International Bodies calling you out on it.
I agree, act unilaterally --but the UN is in the right here.
elmoboy86 3 years ago
I fear that it sets a bad example. We are a sovereign nation. If we start saying that our laws and rules bow to international laws and rules made by non-Americans, we've lost our sovereignty.
And I don't know about you, but I think that our Constitution is better than all the other ones out there - and I don't want to lose it.
Besides, we have more than enough grounds in the Constitution (it's pretty clear on 'Cruel and Unusual Punishment') without bowing to the international community.
Jaspian 3 years ago
We agree that GITMO should be closed; however, disregarding what the UN says should not an option. Isn't there a UN resolution calling for Iran to quit enriching uranium? According to your thinking, Iran could do whatever it wants. How can you expect Iran to comply with the UN if the USA does not?
It only shows that the UN needs to be reformed.
titotoro 3 years ago
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I don't know. Some people in GITMO really are terrorists, I believe. Our government is corrupt but not everyone in the military is. I totally think the ACLU is a GREAT institution but if you have to torture a few souls who threaten the lives of thousands of americans or even one US soldier I am inclined to say DO IT. I do NOT want to lower or standands of justice but at the same time I don't want to lower our effectiveness at stopping potential terrorism. I guess it's a tricky fine line.
Anus2Mouth 3 years ago
The UN is a useless organization. Case in point - Iran.
UN tells Iran to stop enriching Uranium, Iran (of course) does not, because the UN has no teeth. What is the UN going to do? Go to war? Of course not.
The UN will impose sanctions (which is an act of war anyway), which doesn't hurt the ruling class. It starves the children, and forces the poor out of their homes.
So Iran is going to do whatever it wants REGARDLESS of whether we listen to the UN or not.
We should just get rid of the UN.
Jaspian 3 years ago
Israel is going to attack Iran while Bush is in office soon!They don't trust Obama!Plus Russia will be finished putting in a new high tech missle defense system for Iran the 1st of next year.They finally got Olmert to resign after 2 yrs of pressure.70% of Israelis
have wanted him Olmert out since he showed incredible weakness when Hezbollah launched over 2,000 rockets at them from Lebanon!They
want HARDLINER Benjamin Netanyahu back in power.He & his party are in a struugle with Olmerts
ifyourscaredsayur 3 years ago
The UN is a useless organization. Case in point - USA.
UN tells USA to not invade Iraq, USA (of course) does, because the UN has no teeth. What is the UN going to do? Go to war? Of course not.
So USA is going to do whatever it wants REGARDLESS of whether we listen to the UN or not.
mineoursyours 3 years ago
Exactly. :)
Nobody listens to the UN. Why do we have it? The only thing its good for is undermining the sovereignty of legitimate nations on the grounds of some abstract power called "international consensus".
... this while China and Russia (and the US) has veto power, and while a good portion of the world still operates under various dictatorial regimes.
Not only doesn't the world regularly -not- listen to the UN, it's probably better off that way. Let's close it down.
Jaspian 3 years ago
The US is the largest contributor to the UN and what thanks does America get? Terrorist appeasement, anti-Semitism, hypocrisy, theft, rape.
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
But there are places where the US interrogators use worse torchuring methods than what happened in Guantanamo, namely those in Djibouti, Ethiopia, Kenya, South Africa, Philippines and Russia. and I want to see not only Guantanamo closed but I want to see all the remaining closed.
wavaso 3 years ago
Don't forget Romania. That's where the really bad CIA-run ones were.
UN "peacekeepers", IE - foreign troops, are regularly sent into sovereign lands. There, they have diplomatic immunity, and have been known to RAPE civilians.
This while they decry rape camps in other countries.
UN Officials steal millions in foreign aid. It's wrought with scandal.
And yet they decry corrupt governments elsewhere.
There's a distinct double standard, that includes the US. Our torture camps seem OK to them.
Jaspian 3 years ago
Agreed. The entire secret rendition prison system needs to be shut down.
mixmatosis 3 years ago
Plus, the UN won't put Israel on the Human Rights COmmission. But they'll gladly give seats to Syria, Zimbabwe, China, and Vietnam.
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
Hmmm that's probably because of Israel's shocking human rights record.
mixmatosis 3 years ago
As I have said, you hypocrites pick on Israel, but you say nothing about Robert Mugabe turning a once-beautiful Rhodesia into the hellhole known as Zimbabwe. You "human rights" people say NOTHING about the persecution of Copts in Egypt or Maronites of Lebanon. You show no outrage when Iran stones women and kills homosexuals.
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
Besides, the UN makes excuses for jihadists and other terrorists.
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
We've lost who we are regardless of GITMO.
kookiemoose 3 years ago 3
For too long we have sacrificed freedom and basic decency in the name of almighty fear. For too long we have listened to the siren song of "there's danger, do whatever it takes, and to hell with human rights!"
America is supposed to be the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. Are we brave enough to be free, or do we throw it all away because we are afraid?
Close Guantanamo.
End torture.
Restore America.
SailorBarsoom 3 years ago 6
What's too long? seven years? I voted for Obama but if he captures bin laden I personally hopes he burns and tortures him for months until he gives up all the plans he may have set afoot that would hurt even ONE american.
Anus2Mouth 3 years ago
And that's what Obama will do... if all he cares about is thumping his chest and trying to convince people how knee-shudderingly tough he is. But if he wants any good intelligence, he won't.
Torture is a great way to get people to confess to witchcraft.
"AAAAHHHHHHH YES I FLY ON A BROOMSTICK!"
"AAAAHHHHHHH YES MY NEIGHBOR'S A WITCH TOO!!"
"AAAAHHHHHHH YES SATAN'S DORK IS COLD AND SCALY!!!"
It's worthless for getting anything that can actually protect Americans.
SailorBarsoom 3 years ago 4
I am not sure what you are saying SailorBlossom. You want Obama to close GITMO because the intelligence we are getting from there is bad, right? Like forcing people to confess to witchcraft and things that are untrue? You may be right but I think our military, even through torture, could surely sift through the lies and coerced admissions to find relevant information.
Anus2Mouth 3 years ago
Or they could just use techniques that work, instead of sifting through false positives from techniques which don't.
There's also the little matter of torture being morally wrong.
SailorBarsoom 3 years ago
Freedom and the love for it,
for some will seem infectious,
but I believe it is innate.
TakeOutMenu 3 years ago 2
We can do this,let us regain our dignity as a constitutional nation of equality loving Americans and close this torture chamber called guantanomo TODAY!
It is outrageous! How would you feel if you were held there,tortured for yrs. without a fair trial,without basic human dignity/rights? This is Bush evil at it's worst!
LovesDisciple 3 years ago
Slumber*Time is over, N.O.W. - We*Stretch before the true work begins, take stock of the situation, a bit of a rest and then We*Play, as the cycle of human life, fully takes on its mantle of compassionate humanity...
PeaceProfit 3 years ago
And all militar and civil personal involved in this crime against humanity should be hold responsible.
fernandomares 3 years ago
5 stars and added to favorites!
Anyone interested in the ACLU's detailed plan on how to heal the US Constitution should Google the words:
"Actions For Restoring America: How to Begin Repairing the Damage to Freedom in America After Bush"
Thanks for making and uploading this video :-)
LiberalViewer 3 years ago
It appears that the devil is in the details. Today the White House floated a trial balloon saying it is considering reestablishing the military commissions it so sanctimoniously had cancelled for 13 detainees. It appears the president is learning that it is harder to run the country than to run for office. Thank God the president is not as naive as your average MSNBC viewer.
brandywineraceway 2 years ago