And it is true. Mostly white people are Athiest who do not believin God. And it states in the bible that God had skin of BRONZE and Hair of WHOOL... like SHEEP WHOOL. God was a black man. A hebrew and the original hewbrews where Africans/black people... So white ppl are saying Gods not real cause they know he's black... People that died and went to heaven and came back to life have said it themsleves. They seen a black God when they died. God is real people believin him.
You know what I believin The Lord Jesus Christ I do not care what anyone or any athiest says. God is real... People have actually died and went to heaven and came back to life, and every story told by ppl who expierienced that told the same story cause they experienced the same exact thing... And ppl have also died and went to Hell and came back to life and each story told by each expirience was the same. Those that do not believin God are against God and they will go to hell with the devil.
And the genisis story of god creating the universe in 5 days I belive is like a fantasy story as of also most or some of the old testiment used mainly of only for proverbs and life goals/ lessons from god to Moses etc.so I belive the bang theory very well had happened just only with the help of god.
I also think Stephan hawking only promotes the theory of no god is because he is angry. With the rare birth defect he has he is probobly tortued every day of life (like every one) and he wants to get bak at whatever created him and by doing that he turns others fate.
The big bang thirty sais matter was pullled by gravty to overcome all odds and creat a nucleor reaction and make a explosion so big it created life time and space itself. Which is impossible. If there was nothing there where did the matter come from or where did the gravity come from??? Answer it plz . C there is no answer
God created man in his image but with free will/choices. He allows it because he allows it he does not creat suffering Saten does that all the bad evil in our world are from temptations from him and if there was no god or creater how could the universe be made????the big bang theorie does not work
God did not create evil. He made man with a freewill. Lucifer was made perfectly but chose to rebel against God.He chose evil.God doesn't force anyone & He can never be blamed for the result.He hasn't been silent about this.He gave His book.He gave His Son.He is waiting for you to believe HIm.Jesus said:"The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life& that they might have it more abundantly.
2) If you say he 'always existed', then how long? I mean put a number - 1 billion years, 1 trillion trillion years?
3) Why did God, if he exists, put humans and animals into so much of pain? Almost all the religious texts say that God is all powerful and merciful - is this his mercy?
4) Bible says we should not get astray by the evil, but who created evil - the almighty God? Why did he do that? To derive pleasure?
@GTechZero You don't need to be an atheist. Why?Give it a try. Try to talk to the invisible God directly and ask Him questions. He is powerful enough to answer your questions. Everything on earth and outside point to the existence of a creator, a designer.I challenge you to try talking to the Lord and see what He would say...
@sg51863 mate, you don't make any sense... i don't need to be an atheist because i can ask some invisible god some questions? (yes i can ask something, but i wouldn't get an answer, you know why? because he doesn't exist.) and if you hear answer from god, then you need to see a doctor.
@GTechZero Please watch Mary k Baxter & Tamara (American), Angelica Zambrano (ecuadorian), Bill Wiese-23 mins in hell, 7 Columbians who went to hell, Nasir Saddiki, Khalil, Muhamed who all saw Jesus and became Christians. These are true to life experiences and telling the same things. Be warned, a lot of chances already, don't miss another chance of accepting Jesus Christ into your life as Lord and Savior.
@GTechZero You don't get an answer because you don't believe."When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures."James 4:2-4; "Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows."Galatians 6:6-8; "But the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming."Psalm 37:12-14
@sg51863 He gives me multiple answers. Don't challenge others, ask yourself a series of questions and you would soon be lost. Ask, who am I? Who are you, God? What is the purpose of all this? Why is there so much hatred? Who made you? How could you exist forever? Why don't you show up? Why did you create evil? Can you show me a glimpse of heaven? Why are there so many messengers and books and confusion? Don't you love me? If yes, then why did you create evil? Why doesn't Einstein believe in you?
@abhisheksuraj Eistein chose not believe.God did not create evil. He made man with a freewill. Lucifer was made perfectly but chose to rebel against God.He chose evil.God doesn't force anyone & He can never be blamed for the result.He hasn't been silent about this.He gave His book.He gave His Son.He is waiting for you to believe HIm.Jesus said:"The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life& that they might have it more abundantly.
@GTechZero Dude, I don't give a shit to old/new/shit testament. I believe that if God exists then he should speak to my heart. He doesn't have to rely on any messengers and create so much confusion (btw,who is the real messenger - jesus, mohammad or some other crap?). You say God is cruel, he created evil and he wants me to resist evil so that I could get entry into God's heaven. Sounds like God is a rude experimenting child and we are his toys. I simply deny your shitty explanation.
@abhisheksuraj If you created the computer, does it know everything about you?Can it tell your emotions, your dreams, your future?Your creation is limited and could never be more intelligent than you are.God created us and we don't know everything.He does, so I challenge you to ask the invisible God your questions and see what He would tell you.
@sg51863 first of all a computer isn't a living thinking creature, it's just a tool... and if you are comparing humans to computers that means you think we are tools of god, what fucking use could we serve him? our creations aren't limited, someday the computer could be smarter that us (and that's true), fuck it if there is a limit to our creations then we haven't yet seen the limit, so we cannot prove that it exists.
@GTechZero If you have created something, it couldn't be smarter than you are. God created man and we couldn't be smarter than He is.If you don't believe Him what can I do. Honestly it doesn't affect me in anyway because my soul is saved already.I just take time talking with you guys because I want other people to enjoy eternity,too.Hell is forever,soul is forever alive. If you go to hell,you will be there forever and God doesn't like that to happen,He already sent His Son to save.
Computers, like the one you have used to post this video, are made of highly complex and precise parts that work together in a very organized fashion (much like a human being) creating a highly complex system that produces the ability to do multiple tasks. Just like a human being.
Now, without using any form of creation as an answer, tell me: Where did the computer come from?
@shauntattoos1 I plan on asking him upon having the chance. For now, that's 2 dimensions out of our Time/Space/Matter realm. I wouldn't know, and we'll have to see if our creator does.
@shauntattoos1 If you have created something,it couldn't be smarter than you are. God created man &we couldn't be smarter than He is.If you don't believe Him what can I do. Honestly it doesn't affect me in anyway because my soul is saved already.I just take time talking with you guys because I want other people to enjoy eternity,too.Hell is forever,soul is forever alive. If you go to hell,you will be there forever & God doesn't like that to happen,He already sent His Son to save.
@Dapowerofear I don't think anyone is questioning whether a computer was an act of deliberate design or a natural/biological process. The argument that goes "because computers are complex and were designed, then everything complex also necessarily has a designer" is juvenile. Especially when we have something as beautiful and coherent as natural selection to explain biological evolution on this planet.
Surely you must agree that evolution is at least a possible explanation of how we got here?
@snoopytroops Evolution still has a missing link.If you don't believe the Bible, then hope you wonder about the universe, humans, animal kingdom. oxygen, water etc.Who created these things, the pattern, the order?Without God, maybe some would have ten legs, five heads etc.Earth must have gone to the spiral galaxy without the control of God.Try to ask the invisible God about these things and see what He would tell you.
maybe if computers shat out other computers your argument would be relevant, but alas, computers are highly complex pieces of plastic and we are highly complex organic organisms.
The perfection of creation, and the order of the univerce areproof enough for God's existance. I am not only talking about things one can see. Perfection and order are there wherever we look. Zoom in into an atom and see the order there.
I was athiest until I red the first 4 pages of Quran, the muslimd holly book. what I read in those pages were enough for me to admt God exists. I hope you will spend some time reading this Book if you want to spend time finding out about the trouth.
Hi. I am glad you replied so fast. My dear The Good machine is a proof of a clever designer.
The designer we are talking about one thig design. just think about the solar system and the balance position of earth to the sun, and the speed of rotation around itself. If the earth was rotating few hours sloweraround itself it would be slow enough to freez the dark side of the earth and burn the light side of it. I hope you will find an english translation og Quran.
take some petroliom, and sand and put them besids eachothers and wate until the day of judgment and see if they will turn into a mobile phone. or put some dirt afer burning it in distilled water and close the jar and wate until day of judgment. If any living thingapears in the water I will agree with you. God has created every thing. Show us if you can create any thing (a moskito wing will be fine with me).
@Urarto If there were such a thing as actual "order", there would be no change. At all. Change relies on the random and it's reactions.
Either way, if your argument is reinforced with "I read the first 4 pages of a book", then you're horribly easy to convince about anything. That's pretty fucking sad, really.
I have read the hole Book several times by now. God didn't say thet the world if not changing. He said that the matter and space were one thing and they were splitted apart and he also sait that he has created the world and it is expanding. He also said thet he will bring the world together as it began. This is in Quran. I really woud advise you to read it some time. You may have used some of your time reading stories. Just take the quran as one of them and read. good luck.
@KajexFiredrake If you created the computer, does it know everything about you?Can it tell your emotions, your dreams, your future?Your creation is limited and could never be more intelligent than you are.God created us and we don't know everything.He does, so I challenge you to ask the invisible God your questions and see what He would tell you.
God said in Quran "We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?" Fussilat- 52
O people, an example is presented, so listen to it. Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose. And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued." Al-Haj 73
There's nothing difficult to understand about the Qur'an- it's an oudated ancient text with no bearing on how people live nowadays. That you attempt to use it as proof of ANYTHING is completely moronic. We're not angry with you- we LAUGH at people like you because you could never be taken seriously in the real world.
I don't lough at you. I hope one day you will aske yourself what is the reason of life and what am I supposed to do during my life. When you aske yourself this question, then I would recommend you to read the Quran among other things you will read. After that well see if you are going to laugh.
See here's the biggest difference between you and me- you need someone to tell you what the meaning to your life is. I don't. I don't need a temperamental, genocidal being of immortality to tell me how to live my life, when neither he nor you can prove he hand a hand in it.
What, pray tell, would be the point of telling you that? Stay on topic instead of throwing out a red herring. If you claim to make a rational argument, you need to make it from rational sources, not some ancient text that only a fraction of the earth's population believes in.
But your assumption is working on the idea that you
You didn't ask a question. Oh certainly, you might have tried to, but all you did was attempt to change the subject with an irrelevant question- ignoratio elenchi, informally a "red herring".
If you want an answer? I don't believe in anything that doesn't present itself with viable proof. I neither confirm nor refute the idea of nonexistence beyond death.
But see, that would be missing the point- the burden of proof is still on YOU to prove god rationally, not through faith.
You know what. I don't want to waste my time on pethatic talk. I aske you to spend some time reading Quran then lets discuss thise subjects. till then have a mice life.
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@Urarto The Bible is the Word of God, it should be the basis of our faith and principles in life. Pls watch Angelica Zambrano, Khalil & Nasir Saddiki who met Jesus Christ and be blessed!
Have they really? Wher did that hapend? I dont worship pepople who God has created. People who were neady. People who had to eat and dring to stay alive. Peopel who used the toilet to get red of what they ate and drank. By the way. No where in the Bible is written that Jessus said I am Gor, or he said Woship me. What kind of a god is that one which other people can beat and chrusify.
@Urarto Jesus said: “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” Rev.1:8 & 17; "When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades" . God bless
I am the alpha and the Omega, doesn't mean any thin. Alpha could be an alph wolf.
The secind caption from the Bible, is some thing some one said about Jesos not what jesos said.
If Jesos was God he would have said it in front of the thousands who witnessed his prophessy, and his miracles. Why did he hide such an important fact to tell it to one person. If this person was not a layer.
@Urarto “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”
John 8:57-; "No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God & is in closest relationship with the Father,has made him known." John 1:17-;
"When I saw him,I fell at his feet as though dead.Then he placed his right hand on me & said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever & ever! And I hold the keys of death & Hades."
@Urarto But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5:7-9). Christ died on the cross to pay for our sins. Salvation is now available to everyone who would repent and receive Him as Lord and Savior. I don't worship idols or people, too.
You are fucking retarded. Lemme know when the next major earthquake is, so that way we'll know when to expect the next change in an area- after all, if natural change isn't random, you should be able to predict it, right?
Relax. Why are you so angry. Take it easy. If you are right why should you bother with what others think? If you deny your creator, it is you who has a problem not me. I have nothing to do with it. I cant do more than asking God to guide you to the right path. Regards.
I agree with you man.If there is a GOD.He or she Enjoys evil.All of the stories in the bible is so fucking made up to mind control everyone.People need to wake up and get out of this religion mind control game because its getting people nowhere.Everybody's arguing and fighting and killing to improve what......NOTHING
@votar109 You mean we just existed on earth without any creator? How can that be? How come we all have two eyes, one mouth and a nose but nobody looks the same?What about stars, planets, animals,mountains, volcanoes, clouds, seas..who made them?The oxygen you breathe and water you drink, Please be kind to your soul, try to ask the invisible God directly if He exists and see what He would tell you..
You are a good lad.
fintan1471 1 week ago
God is not, black or white he's god he can be pink for all we know you've never met the guy.
natshenkin 1 month ago
And it is true. Mostly white people are Athiest who do not believin God. And it states in the bible that God had skin of BRONZE and Hair of WHOOL... like SHEEP WHOOL. God was a black man. A hebrew and the original hewbrews where Africans/black people... So white ppl are saying Gods not real cause they know he's black... People that died and went to heaven and came back to life have said it themsleves. They seen a black God when they died. God is real people believin him.
MizzShadaeProduction 1 month ago
You know what I believin The Lord Jesus Christ I do not care what anyone or any athiest says. God is real... People have actually died and went to heaven and came back to life, and every story told by ppl who expierienced that told the same story cause they experienced the same exact thing... And ppl have also died and went to Hell and came back to life and each story told by each expirience was the same. Those that do not believin God are against God and they will go to hell with the devil.
MizzShadaeProduction 1 month ago
it's always white people who make these types of videos...hmmmmmmmmmm
Mr1991Wright 1 month ago
And the genisis story of god creating the universe in 5 days I belive is like a fantasy story as of also most or some of the old testiment used mainly of only for proverbs and life goals/ lessons from god to Moses etc.so I belive the bang theory very well had happened just only with the help of god.
xEFOWxMONTAGEx 2 months ago
I also think Stephan hawking only promotes the theory of no god is because he is angry. With the rare birth defect he has he is probobly tortued every day of life (like every one) and he wants to get bak at whatever created him and by doing that he turns others fate.
xEFOWxMONTAGEx 2 months ago
The big bang thirty sais matter was pullled by gravty to overcome all odds and creat a nucleor reaction and make a explosion so big it created life time and space itself. Which is impossible. If there was nothing there where did the matter come from or where did the gravity come from??? Answer it plz . C there is no answer
xEFOWxMONTAGEx 2 months ago
God created man in his image but with free will/choices. He allows it because he allows it he does not creat suffering Saten does that all the bad evil in our world are from temptations from him and if there was no god or creater how could the universe be made????the big bang theorie does not work
xEFOWxMONTAGEx 2 months ago
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God did not create evil. He made man with a freewill. Lucifer was made perfectly but chose to rebel against God.He chose evil.God doesn't force anyone & He can never be blamed for the result.He hasn't been silent about this.He gave His book.He gave His Son.He is waiting for you to believe HIm.Jesus said:"The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life& that they might have it more abundantly.
sg51863 2 months ago
God doesn't exist, here's why:
1) If God created all of us, who created God?
2) If you say he 'always existed', then how long? I mean put a number - 1 billion years, 1 trillion trillion years?
3) Why did God, if he exists, put humans and animals into so much of pain? Almost all the religious texts say that God is all powerful and merciful - is this his mercy?
4) Bible says we should not get astray by the evil, but who created evil - the almighty God? Why did he do that? To derive pleasure?
abhisheksuraj 2 months ago
@abhisheksuraj
1) no one can prove anything like that, like atheists can't prove certain things too.
2) that's irrelevant, numbers don't mean shit.
3) read the old testament, god isn't merciful, god is cruel. Never forgives you shit.
4) god created evil, want to know why? because he want's to test us before we go to heaven, we have to resist evil.
I'm an atheist, i'm against the existence of god. But for fuck sake if you are going to make an argument about god, make it at least good.
GTechZero 2 months ago
@GTechZero You don't need to be an atheist. Why?Give it a try. Try to talk to the invisible God directly and ask Him questions. He is powerful enough to answer your questions. Everything on earth and outside point to the existence of a creator, a designer.I challenge you to try talking to the Lord and see what He would say...
sg51863 2 months ago
@sg51863 mate, you don't make any sense... i don't need to be an atheist because i can ask some invisible god some questions? (yes i can ask something, but i wouldn't get an answer, you know why? because he doesn't exist.) and if you hear answer from god, then you need to see a doctor.
GTechZero 2 months ago
@GTechZero Please watch Mary k Baxter & Tamara (American), Angelica Zambrano (ecuadorian), Bill Wiese-23 mins in hell, 7 Columbians who went to hell, Nasir Saddiki, Khalil, Muhamed who all saw Jesus and became Christians. These are true to life experiences and telling the same things. Be warned, a lot of chances already, don't miss another chance of accepting Jesus Christ into your life as Lord and Savior.
sg51863 2 months ago
@GTechZero You don't get an answer because you don't believe."When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures."James 4:2-4; "Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows."Galatians 6:6-8; "But the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming."Psalm 37:12-14
sg51863 2 months ago
@sg51863 He gives me multiple answers. Don't challenge others, ask yourself a series of questions and you would soon be lost. Ask, who am I? Who are you, God? What is the purpose of all this? Why is there so much hatred? Who made you? How could you exist forever? Why don't you show up? Why did you create evil? Can you show me a glimpse of heaven? Why are there so many messengers and books and confusion? Don't you love me? If yes, then why did you create evil? Why doesn't Einstein believe in you?
abhisheksuraj 2 months ago
@abhisheksuraj Eistein chose not believe.God did not create evil. He made man with a freewill. Lucifer was made perfectly but chose to rebel against God.He chose evil.God doesn't force anyone & He can never be blamed for the result.He hasn't been silent about this.He gave His book.He gave His Son.He is waiting for you to believe HIm.Jesus said:"The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life& that they might have it more abundantly.
sg51863 2 months ago
@GTechZero Dude, I don't give a shit to old/new/shit testament. I believe that if God exists then he should speak to my heart. He doesn't have to rely on any messengers and create so much confusion (btw,who is the real messenger - jesus, mohammad or some other crap?). You say God is cruel, he created evil and he wants me to resist evil so that I could get entry into God's heaven. Sounds like God is a rude experimenting child and we are his toys. I simply deny your shitty explanation.
abhisheksuraj 2 months ago
@abhisheksuraj If you created the computer, does it know everything about you?Can it tell your emotions, your dreams, your future?Your creation is limited and could never be more intelligent than you are.God created us and we don't know everything.He does, so I challenge you to ask the invisible God your questions and see what He would tell you.
sg51863 2 months ago
@sg51863 first of all a computer isn't a living thinking creature, it's just a tool... and if you are comparing humans to computers that means you think we are tools of god, what fucking use could we serve him? our creations aren't limited, someday the computer could be smarter that us (and that's true), fuck it if there is a limit to our creations then we haven't yet seen the limit, so we cannot prove that it exists.
GTechZero 2 months ago
@GTechZero If you have created something, it couldn't be smarter than you are. God created man and we couldn't be smarter than He is.If you don't believe Him what can I do. Honestly it doesn't affect me in anyway because my soul is saved already.I just take time talking with you guys because I want other people to enjoy eternity,too.Hell is forever,soul is forever alive. If you go to hell,you will be there forever and God doesn't like that to happen,He already sent His Son to save.
sg51863 2 months ago
also it forgot to mention the animals that were either asexual and bisexual, it only mentions males and females.
doombybbr 2 months ago
All right then. Ponder on this for a bit:
Computers, like the one you have used to post this video, are made of highly complex and precise parts that work together in a very organized fashion (much like a human being) creating a highly complex system that produces the ability to do multiple tasks. Just like a human being.
Now, without using any form of creation as an answer, tell me: Where did the computer come from?
Dapowerofear 3 months ago
@Dapowerofear u cnt but i no wat ur sayin so if god made us who or wht made god
shauntattoos1 3 months ago
@shauntattoos1 I plan on asking him upon having the chance. For now, that's 2 dimensions out of our Time/Space/Matter realm. I wouldn't know, and we'll have to see if our creator does.
Dapowerofear 3 months ago
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@shauntattoos1 If you have created something,it couldn't be smarter than you are. God created man &we couldn't be smarter than He is.If you don't believe Him what can I do. Honestly it doesn't affect me in anyway because my soul is saved already.I just take time talking with you guys because I want other people to enjoy eternity,too.Hell is forever,soul is forever alive. If you go to hell,you will be there forever & God doesn't like that to happen,He already sent His Son to save.
sg51863 2 months ago
@Dapowerofear I don't think anyone is questioning whether a computer was an act of deliberate design or a natural/biological process. The argument that goes "because computers are complex and were designed, then everything complex also necessarily has a designer" is juvenile. Especially when we have something as beautiful and coherent as natural selection to explain biological evolution on this planet.
Surely you must agree that evolution is at least a possible explanation of how we got here?
snoopytroops 2 months ago
@snoopytroops Evolution still has a missing link.If you don't believe the Bible, then hope you wonder about the universe, humans, animal kingdom. oxygen, water etc.Who created these things, the pattern, the order?Without God, maybe some would have ten legs, five heads etc.Earth must have gone to the spiral galaxy without the control of God.Try to ask the invisible God about these things and see what He would tell you.
sg51863 2 months ago
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@Dapowerofear
maybe if computers shat out other computers your argument would be relevant, but alas, computers are highly complex pieces of plastic and we are highly complex organic organisms.
cookedcrackslaps 2 months ago
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Hey mate you believe in life? Yes? Then you believe in God.
jpgrygus 3 months ago
nobody can disprove leprechauns either
charyoshi1 3 months ago
@charyoshi1 thts my point u cnt prove it eaithr but sciance says other wise
shauntattoos1 3 months ago
God points, all bud!! Cheers from a Yank!!
2eelShmeal 3 months ago
The perfection of creation, and the order of the univerce areproof enough for God's existance. I am not only talking about things one can see. Perfection and order are there wherever we look. Zoom in into an atom and see the order there.
I was athiest until I red the first 4 pages of Quran, the muslimd holly book. what I read in those pages were enough for me to admt God exists. I hope you will spend some time reading this Book if you want to spend time finding out about the trouth.
Urarto 3 months ago
@Urarto ok but thts nt proof tho can u shw me proofe just because sum thing has order dosent mean there is a god.
shauntattoos1 3 months ago
@shauntattoos1
Hi. I am glad you replied so fast. My dear The Good machine is a proof of a clever designer.
The designer we are talking about one thig design. just think about the solar system and the balance position of earth to the sun, and the speed of rotation around itself. If the earth was rotating few hours sloweraround itself it would be slow enough to freez the dark side of the earth and burn the light side of it. I hope you will find an english translation og Quran.
Urarto 3 months ago
@shauntattoos1
take some petroliom, and sand and put them besids eachothers and wate until the day of judgment and see if they will turn into a mobile phone. or put some dirt afer burning it in distilled water and close the jar and wate until day of judgment. If any living thingapears in the water I will agree with you. God has created every thing. Show us if you can create any thing (a moskito wing will be fine with me).
Urarto 2 months ago
@Urarto If there were such a thing as actual "order", there would be no change. At all. Change relies on the random and it's reactions.
Either way, if your argument is reinforced with "I read the first 4 pages of a book", then you're horribly easy to convince about anything. That's pretty fucking sad, really.
KajexFiredrake 2 months ago
@KajexFiredrake
I have read the hole Book several times by now. God didn't say thet the world if not changing. He said that the matter and space were one thing and they were splitted apart and he also sait that he has created the world and it is expanding. He also said thet he will bring the world together as it began. This is in Quran. I really woud advise you to read it some time. You may have used some of your time reading stories. Just take the quran as one of them and read. good luck.
Urarto 2 months ago
@Urarto
You still haven't proven god exists. If your proof is an ancient text with no proof attached, you've still failed.
KajexFiredrake 2 months ago
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@KajexFiredrake If you created the computer, does it know everything about you?Can it tell your emotions, your dreams, your future?Your creation is limited and could never be more intelligent than you are.God created us and we don't know everything.He does, so I challenge you to ask the invisible God your questions and see what He would tell you.
sg51863 2 months ago
@KajexFiredrake
God said in Quran "We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?" Fussilat- 52
Urarto 2 months ago
@KajexFiredrake
God said in Quran
"He also said
O people, an example is presented, so listen to it. Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose. And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued." Al-Haj 73
Urarto 2 months ago
@Urarto
And stop using holy books to reinforce your point. They aren't proof.
Fussilat 52 more or less says "I'll leave behind clues so people catch the hint, but isn't it enough that I saw it?"
No. It isn't. It could mean you're a retarded LYING god who expects people to believe based on absolutely nothing.
KajexFiredrake 2 months ago
@KajexFiredrake
Pitty. I was expecting that your language skills were better than that. I am sorry I used text which you can't anderstand.
Urarto 2 months ago
@Urarto
This is coming from the fuckwit who can't even spell "pity" correctly.
KajexFiredrake 2 months ago
@KajexFiredrake
Not strange that you cant anderstand the language of Quran. you only know slang words.
Urarto 2 months ago
@Urarto
There's nothing difficult to understand about the Qur'an- it's an oudated ancient text with no bearing on how people live nowadays. That you attempt to use it as proof of ANYTHING is completely moronic. We're not angry with you- we LAUGH at people like you because you could never be taken seriously in the real world.
KajexFiredrake 2 months ago
@KajexFiredrake
I don't lough at you. I hope one day you will aske yourself what is the reason of life and what am I supposed to do during my life. When you aske yourself this question, then I would recommend you to read the Quran among other things you will read. After that well see if you are going to laugh.
Urarto 2 months ago
@Urarto
Yeah, I'm still laughing.
See here's the biggest difference between you and me- you need someone to tell you what the meaning to your life is. I don't. I don't need a temperamental, genocidal being of immortality to tell me how to live my life, when neither he nor you can prove he hand a hand in it.
I'm sorry that you do.
KajexFiredrake 2 months ago
@KajexFiredrake
So you want to tell me that you believe that you live and die and thats it?
Urarto 2 months ago
@Urarto
What, pray tell, would be the point of telling you that? Stay on topic instead of throwing out a red herring. If you claim to make a rational argument, you need to make it from rational sources, not some ancient text that only a fraction of the earth's population believes in.
But your assumption is working on the idea that you
KajexFiredrake 2 months ago
@KajexFiredrake
You didn't answer my question.
Urarto 2 months ago
@Urarto
You didn't ask a question. Oh certainly, you might have tried to, but all you did was attempt to change the subject with an irrelevant question- ignoratio elenchi, informally a "red herring".
If you want an answer? I don't believe in anything that doesn't present itself with viable proof. I neither confirm nor refute the idea of nonexistence beyond death.
But see, that would be missing the point- the burden of proof is still on YOU to prove god rationally, not through faith.
KajexFiredrake 2 months ago
@KajexFiredrake
You know what. I don't want to waste my time on pethatic talk. I aske you to spend some time reading Quran then lets discuss thise subjects. till then have a mice life.
Urarto 2 months ago
@Urarto Thank you.
Your letter of resignation in this argument will be processed in due time- once we correct the major spelling mistakes. Please forward all viable evidence to this page after cleaning out your desk. Good day.
KajexFiredrake 2 months ago
@KajexFiredrake
hahaha
Urarto 2 months ago
@Urarto The Bible is the Word of God, it should be the basis of our faith and principles in life. Pls watch Angelica Zambrano, Khalil & Nasir Saddiki who met Jesus Christ and be blessed!
sg51863 2 months ago
@sg51863
Have they really? Wher did that hapend? I dont worship pepople who God has created. People who were neady. People who had to eat and dring to stay alive. Peopel who used the toilet to get red of what they ate and drank. By the way. No where in the Bible is written that Jessus said I am Gor, or he said Woship me. What kind of a god is that one which other people can beat and chrusify.
Urarto 2 months ago
@Urarto Jesus said: “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” Rev.1:8 & 17; "When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades" . God bless
sg51863 2 months ago
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sg51863 2 months ago
@sg51863
I am the alpha and the Omega, doesn't mean any thin. Alpha could be an alph wolf.
The secind caption from the Bible, is some thing some one said about Jesos not what jesos said.
If Jesos was God he would have said it in front of the thousands who witnessed his prophessy, and his miracles. Why did he hide such an important fact to tell it to one person. If this person was not a layer.
Urarto 2 months ago
@Urarto “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”
John 8:57-; "No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God & is in closest relationship with the Father,has made him known." John 1:17-;
"When I saw him,I fell at his feet as though dead.Then he placed his right hand on me & said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever & ever! And I hold the keys of death & Hades."
sg51863 2 months ago
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@Urarto But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5:7-9). Christ died on the cross to pay for our sins. Salvation is now available to everyone who would repent and receive Him as Lord and Savior. I don't worship idols or people, too.
sg51863 2 months ago
@KajexFiredrake
Change is not random. if it was so, you would change to a monkey by chance. After all you clame your ansesters were monkeys don't you?
Urarto 2 months ago
@Urarto
Wow.
You are fucking retarded. Lemme know when the next major earthquake is, so that way we'll know when to expect the next change in an area- after all, if natural change isn't random, you should be able to predict it, right?
KajexFiredrake 2 months ago
@KajexFiredrake
Relax. Why are you so angry. Take it easy. If you are right why should you bother with what others think? If you deny your creator, it is you who has a problem not me. I have nothing to do with it. I cant do more than asking God to guide you to the right path. Regards.
Urarto 2 months ago
Why do you need someone to prove to you that creativity comes from intelligence?
On what do you base your dismissal of intelligence for faith that inanimate matter can create?
lughcious 3 months ago
@lughcious ok i will tell u y if god made earth and ect WHO MADE GOD
sumthing or sum1 has to make sumthing things dont just apper i base my dismissal of god coz of what science has found out
shauntattoos1 3 months ago
if ne of the info bout bible i said in the is wrong am soz i said it to the best of my knowledge
shauntattoos1 3 months ago
religion is the reason 4 most of the wars
shauntattoos1 3 months ago
I agree with you man.If there is a GOD.He or she Enjoys evil.All of the stories in the bible is so fucking made up to mind control everyone.People need to wake up and get out of this religion mind control game because its getting people nowhere.Everybody's arguing and fighting and killing to improve what......NOTHING
votar109 3 months ago
@votar109 thnk u
shauntattoos1 3 months ago
@votar109 You mean we just existed on earth without any creator? How can that be? How come we all have two eyes, one mouth and a nose but nobody looks the same?What about stars, planets, animals,mountains, volcanoes, clouds, seas..who made them?The oxygen you breathe and water you drink, Please be kind to your soul, try to ask the invisible God directly if He exists and see what He would tell you..
sg51863 2 months ago