Why does it matter anymore wether someone's a brony or not? As long as they arent flaunting their dick everywhere with it, I dont give a fuck. Hell, I'm a brony, and i rarely mention the show itself (if not, small references) on my channel. But what's wrong with giving a little chuckle to the fact that some powerups are brony referenced, and love it too. I swear some people just live to sit and say, "derp, dis r gay". I don't even know meaning of troll anymore, i've lost all faith in humanity.
@FirstPistolSammy Sheol was the original Jewish hell. It was a place where all who died went, regardless of moral standing and it was described as a place abandoned by God.
i hope that all of the "bronies" making mlp references realize that you do have to kill up to four ponies everytime you play, it'd be hilarious if they were making pony reference comments without factoring in pony killing......
@mysticwolf109 If you're referring to the four horsemen of the apocalypse, then I hope YOU know that they appear randomly and it is not guaranteed that they will appear at all.
@ULTRAMARIOX I had Judas with 2 hearts and 7 Soul hearts, because i wasted 3 hearts buying brimstone and the nail. The nail does not work with brimstone, you cant attack.
pls, if you're reading this then PLS by ALL MEANS BUY THIS GAME! it's only 5$ for crying out loud!
I'm not trying to sponsor this game but McMillen (the creator of this game) worked on both Super Meat boy and this (both are awesome); the least we can all do is give him 5 bucks each; I mean, srly, these are good games! and 5 bucks won't kill you; I just want more games out of this guy!
@coppermalk You know when Isaac gives hearts to the devil? This time, the devil's asking for his whole soul. ._. You can do this by defeating Mom's heart ten times, then the door to sheol will open. Creepy stuff.
@STMikk1995 suppose it did. it was never used like the way the ponies used it. therefore it was used in a new and creative way, making it new again. this is the internet nothing is new.
have done it 10 times (and more) then just done the 11 but no new boss i found no new eve i did like 6 deals with the devil no new items (i think) did i do somethink rong?
Why? Because I expect some sort of stability and technical quality in the products I pay actual money for? Flash games can be great and I never said the game isn't good, however, unless the developer takes the time to improve the game in a progeamming enviroment that isn't shit, I won't bother with it.
And when that happens, I'll be greatful. Until then, I personally don't find enough work being done to the backend of the game to be truly great and be valuable enough to warrant any sum of money.
@Joroshira You know that this game has been out for a good while on steam right? Its not a flash game like Helicopter or cube runner or something off of adultswim. It's an actual game you tard. Its kinda like saying almost any indie game is just some crappy flash game.
Nope. Indie games like VVVVV, Dungeons of Dreadmor, Braid, Nimbus and even Super Meat Boy had the creators take the time to properly code their games in a C/C++ enviroment, your argument is invalid.
I'm sure you can make a great game from flash, but once you start asking for money for your product, you better be able to make the effort to warrent me to pay for it. I don't see enough effort, therefore I don't buy it.
@Joroshira But you know that this game looks, plays or is nothing like this trailer right? Couldn't tell if you did or not sorry. Well, one of the co-creators of SMB helped make this and after playing through it, i think it's a little more than just the average flash, but i also have 0% experience in flash so when it comes down to the c+++ w/e stuff, ima take your word for it
Yea, I did actually play this game (demo). On a website. That hosted it like it's other quality Flash games. Its fun and all, but what I'm saying that if the dev wants to convince me that they care about this game, then they need to go take the extra step to atleast make it better on a enviroment that doesn't run like crud.
@Joroshira VVVVVV was originally created, and sold, when in Flash. It wasn't even Terry who recoded it in C++, so you've thrown your argument out of the window there :)
@Joroshira Machinarium ran in flash and i could run that find on my old laptop that had 512mb of ram just fine. its not about the engine, its about how good the game is.
@Joroshira There are very little bugs in this game and its hardly like its a broken game i mean almost every game released has bugs and half of isaacs bugs don't even affect its gameplay they're usally just some sort of visual bug like some sprites disconnecting from each other i mean how many games released on xbox and playstation need a patch to fix a bug within a month of realease.Again every game has its bugs so don't judge something's platform for being buggy.
I feel like you enjoy the game for what it is worth- thats great. I'm glad you do.
However, I never said that the game is bad because of it. I believe that a game that any game worth money needs to have a certain build of quality, and flash in it's current iteration does not meet to *my* expectations.
I'm not saying that it is worth buying a poor game with a solid engine, nor am I saying that its bad or because its flash it cannot be sold. Your strawman doesn't work here, sry.
@Joroshira Java is shit, not really meant to work as a game engine. While Flash is superb for that purpose. My point was that the engine doesn't matter. Notch used java because that's what he knew. And clearly the game idea is what determines the quality of that game.
Here i'd argue it's the same thing. Although a difference is that Minecraft was easy to mod. That's how java works in mojangs advantage right there.
That game would be dead as hell without mods/community support.
So you argue that Java isn't meant to be a game engine, even though games like Runescape prove(ed?) its success before Minecraft and you also argued that Java allows Minecraft to have a huge modding community, even though Flash for Binding of Isaac sucks so much that it takes effort to even backup a save or requires an external program like Jo2Key for keybinds.
You are right that engines don't make good games, but I never argued against it. You aren't making any sense. Sorry.
Runescape's success was with it being a browserbased F2P game. Much less to do with the engine. If they had used say Unity (well it wasn't around at the time, my point is there's better engines to use) they would probably have made a better game in most aspects. Runescape was quite clumsy.
You argued that a "wrong" (in this case Flash) engine would be directly ruining the game. Clearly not the case here and in Super meat boy.
Obviously you seem misinformed. SMB is not made in flash, it was written in C++ or something. Atleast it didn't run like shit initially either.
The point you made before is that the engine doesn't dictate how good a game is, yet you turn around and say that Java made Runescape clumsy. Um, okay?
Finally, I don't think I said Flash is "directly ruining" Binding of Isaac, that is a exageration of my argument. Atleast read my previous comments and not the one thumbed up. Kthx
I meant as in someone is responding to me who is thumbed up, look below.
As for my original comment, I have since fleshed out as to why I wouldn't be suppourting the game in it's current flash format, too lazy to re-write my arguments again, sorry. You sound like you are judging me entirely on one comment without looking at the others. Perhaps you'll change your mind, or not, as it doesn't really matter.
Arguing on the internet about a flash game is lols, especially superkerel9
@Joroshira Ah I see what comment you meant now. But I only read that once. And CLEARLY, i have replied to the rest of your comments as they are. I mean you complained about the lack of a savefeature, I responded that it's a roguelike, you ignored that, however. I assumed you just realized you couldn't demand such a feature for the game. But it seems you missed that part.
Have I? That must be an error on my part, I think I meant "Saves" as in backups to game collection/progress (as BoI doesn't currently suppourt Steam Cloud, which is possibly limited by, *sigh* Flash) even then, I don't see what is wrong with including a save function. BoI doesn't play out like the typical rogue-like, if anything, its more like the dungeons for 2D Zeldas. Thats besides the point, though,
@SnoweyMan111 I don't mean to intrude in this awesome fight that you two are having, but I'll point out that most roguelikes I've played do have a save feature. You save and then you can get back to that spot and the save gets deleted. I get that BOI takes a lot less time to complete than, say, NetHack, but it's annoying when I'm playing then I have to stop for whatever reason and I need to either leave it running in the background or lose my current game.
@Joroshira Also, you're ignoring what I'm saying. Java didn't "ruin" that game. But it would probably be better on a different engine. Assuming the dev could handle it. Something that seems to confuse you is that I'm not arguing that an engine has no effect on a game. I argue that in this case, it doesn't. In others, it might have worked out better.
Reason he suggests joytokey is because it's designed for a keyboard. You shoot at straight angles. It's part of the game, makes it harder.
You said Runescape was clumsy due to Java, I didn't claim that you said it ruined it. Please read my comments first, you seem to miss that alot.
A better engine would have improved the game from a concept into something that is worth money to *me* -as the developer didn't bother.
Also, Binding of Isaac may be created for a keyboard, but it certainly isn't ideal for tight gameplay. Reminds me of the Bioshock 2/360pad controversy.
@Joroshira I am reading your comment. What I meant by that statement is that the developers probably still could work with the engine to achive what they wanted. The restrictions of java didnt really impact the game that much I believe. But I didn't like the game because the game was so clunky imo. But that was all their decisions that ruined the game for me. Not the engine.
The binding of Isaac is as ideal as the developer wanted it you to be as restricted as you are.
I disagree, it works pretty well with a gamepad and any PC game should not have to be restricted to what PC Gamers would like to demand in the technical context of how they want to play their game. This is why obligitory start screens, 30FPS caps, encrypted configs, mouse smoothing and other annoyances plague other games.
The restrictions of Java doesn't ruin Runescape and neither does Flash for BoI, however, it keeps me from enjoying the game as I see fit, so I dont suppourt it
I had no idea Satan was so religious, flashing the upside-down cross, which used to be considered VERY holy, all the time like that.
Also, I'm still irritated with the lack of "Jesus Loves Me" in the soundtrack. Danny acted like he put it in, but I KNOW it's not the final boss track and have no idea where else it would be, and it's not on the soundtrack, so I'm calling BS. He promised/threatened us!
Was that Isaac who died?
Sebhan02 1 week ago
MOAR UPDATES!!!!
fatmouth007 1 week ago
So... How 'bout trying to kill Satan by crying at him? Eh? Someone? Anyone? Little girl's cartoon? No one?
I see. Never mind then.
UristMcCameraman 2 weeks ago 2
did anyone else notice the upside down cross near the end?
snyphurr1 4 weeks ago
@snyphurr1 Pretty sure everyone did.
CyanidePlaceboEffect 2 weeks ago
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HOLY MOTHER OF FAAAA
MisterRavenclaw 1 month ago
Please get these bronyfags off of my binding of issac
RockinPSI 1 month ago
Why does it matter anymore wether someone's a brony or not? As long as they arent flaunting their dick everywhere with it, I dont give a fuck. Hell, I'm a brony, and i rarely mention the show itself (if not, small references) on my channel. But what's wrong with giving a little chuckle to the fact that some powerups are brony referenced, and love it too. I swear some people just live to sit and say, "derp, dis r gay". I don't even know meaning of troll anymore, i've lost all faith in humanity.
FrostBite4point0 2 months ago
@FrostBite4point0 Brony... that show is brainwashing you kids.
maptik 1 month ago
@FrostBite4point0 i've lost all faith in humanity after watching this crap show and seeing all those brainwashed "bronies" (btw what a stupid word)
Solaxe 1 month ago
@Solaxe and I'm an opinion-a-tive asshole, it's a show brah. Don't need to get all serious.
Use correct punctuation, stay in school.
FrostBite4point0 1 month ago
@FrostBite4point0 Grammar nazi whinning about non-english dude's punctation in YT comments, wow.
You meant brainwashing show? Yeah
Solaxe 1 month ago
@Solaxe your username is Solaxe, your argument is invalid
roler42 1 month ago
@roler42 Do you have anything to say? No? Then stfu
Solaxe 1 month ago
that animation model gives me the creeps
NuclearXpotato1100 2 months ago 5
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TheDarkness489 2 months ago
Thats ok sleeping wasnt on my to-do list.
thesuperJFJ 2 months ago
How can this game get anymore messed up!!!
ssroym 2 months ago
Really i expected to go to hell, after sheol sill for $5 its more than great. Just feel the trailer was a bit misleading.
FirstPistolSammy 2 months ago
@FirstPistolSammy Sheol was the original Jewish hell. It was a place where all who died went, regardless of moral standing and it was described as a place abandoned by God.
OriganalPie 4 weeks ago
i hope that all of the "bronies" making mlp references realize that you do have to kill up to four ponies everytime you play, it'd be hilarious if they were making pony reference comments without factoring in pony killing......
mysticwolf109 3 months ago
@mysticwolf109 If you're referring to the four horsemen of the apocalypse, then I hope YOU know that they appear randomly and it is not guaranteed that they will appear at all.
Ghyst05 2 months ago
@mysticwolf109 there's five.
inspectertaz 2 months ago
Pony Powerup
My Little Unicorn Powerup
"20% more evil"
I think Edmund may be a...You know...Not that I have anything against that.
nanoco1000 3 months ago 2
@nanoco1000 If someone references MLP, that does not automatically mean they are a brony, dood.
Tycholarfero 3 months ago
@nanoco1000 So the one pony powerup means hes a brony, yet you kill 4 other ponies....
SpacePajama 2 months ago
with 20% evil
so, 20% cooler
mrcaatmanu 3 months ago
.....Holy shit.
gallantmon8 3 months ago
The fucking powerups are awesome.
Tycholarfero 3 months ago
@kirazodiac Gtfo...
MrJonafriend 3 months ago
...who needs to sleep any way...*window crashing* *grabing onion to start firing proyectiles*
DynamiteBonez 3 months ago
@kirazodiac
The text at 0:44 is a gesture to this:
/watch?v=HLI2RGdcD8E
Robman2277 3 months ago
I BEAT SATAN!!!!
MrJonafriend 3 months ago
@MrJonafriend Now try beating him when you have Brimstone......
ULTRAMARIOX 3 months ago
@ULTRAMARIOX I did :)))).
MrJonafriend 3 months ago
@MrJonafriend Gotta love the "Invincibility to Brimstone" effect that Satan has, amirite?
ULTRAMARIOX 3 months ago
@ULTRAMARIOX Meat boys head did all the damage.
MrJonafriend 3 months ago
@MrJonafriend I used Eve's Dead Bird and Bombs for everything.
The rest was just dodging.
ULTRAMARIOX 3 months ago
@ULTRAMARIOX I had Judas with 2 hearts and 7 Soul hearts, because i wasted 3 hearts buying brimstone and the nail. The nail does not work with brimstone, you cant attack.
MrJonafriend 3 months ago
@MrJonafriend Same with technology.
I spent the entire battles using 5 bombs, on both phases, and letting the dead bird eat away his health.
ULTRAMARIOX 3 months ago
D8
sporecreatorperson 3 months ago
now with 20% more evil
not technically a pony reference, they added a 6th chapter, which would be a 20% increase in chapters.
*shrug*
rockninja3 3 months ago 44
@rockninja3 Buzz kill >.>
McAwesomeMan42 3 months ago
@rockninja3 Technically half a chapter if you think about it, so only 10%.
mtehreaper 1 month ago
WTF did I just watched?
BrainDS2 3 months ago
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Hooray for satanic indie games with pony references!
Robman2277 3 months ago 49
Not very sure if reference...
marcoooootje1 3 months ago
@marcoooootje1 Its probably a reference since there's an object that makes you an unicorn named "My Little Unicorn" in-game.
MinusMan561 3 months ago
@MinusMan561 Alright, makes it more believable ^^
marcoooootje1 3 months ago
Found the new "Pony" power up in a playthrough today.
That makes two MLP references in the game.
It makes me happy.
Mperce 3 months ago
@Mperce "20% more evil!" 3
TheMightyP00tis 3 months ago
@Mperce Mlp is gay.
maptik 2 months ago
@maptik This.
Ayevee39 1 month ago
@maptik your face is gay
snap
RockAndCoal 4 weeks ago
@RockAndCoal unsnap, you watch a girls cartoon and force others to like it.
Now snap.
ZeptoWithaGun 4 weeks ago
@ZeptoWithaGun unsnap again, I do watch a girls cartoon but I don't force anyone to like it.
Now snap. Again.
RockAndCoal 3 weeks ago
@RockAndCoal We'll leave that snap right there.
ZeptoWithaGun 3 weeks ago
@ZeptoWithaGun yes we shall.
RockAndCoal 3 weeks ago
@Mperce MLP is a piece of shit. get a life.
LLS12341 1 month ago
pls, if you're reading this then PLS by ALL MEANS BUY THIS GAME! it's only 5$ for crying out loud!
I'm not trying to sponsor this game but McMillen (the creator of this game) worked on both Super Meat boy and this (both are awesome); the least we can all do is give him 5 bucks each; I mean, srly, these are good games! and 5 bucks won't kill you; I just want more games out of this guy!
demoniccurses9 3 months ago
@demoniccurses9 Sorry, but I already bought SMB and wasn't impressed.
3243F6A8885 3 months ago
Still too easy
pikminlord1 3 months ago
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CrabmanderShepard 4 months ago
This is fucking scary
zuzlaka 4 months ago
I dunno if anyone else sees it, but my video is to the right :D
MrAran551 4 months ago
@MrAran551 i see it
KoolaidRaptor 3 months ago
Satan ain't so hard when your doctor fetus with homing bombs!
But really, I have more mom kills than deaths. The game could be harder
pikminlord1 4 months ago
@pikminlord1 1: cool user name.
2: youre a wizard at this game
bluepolarbear 2 months ago
the people i would kill to get the new songs released...
Seriously
ShadyParakoopa 4 months ago 4
incase anyone's wondering WTF just happened,idk either.
mariosonicfan2010 4 months ago
Why the hell is isaac going to hell
coppermalk 4 months ago
@coppermalk You know when Isaac gives hearts to the devil? This time, the devil's asking for his whole soul. ._. You can do this by defeating Mom's heart ten times, then the door to sheol will open. Creepy stuff.
KonVeger 4 months ago
@KonVeger You don't need to beat the Heart 10 times. It shows up everytime.
Mysterious0Bob 4 months ago
20% creepier?
Oh wow. Ponies.
tintinytdj 4 months ago
@tintinytdj Because 20% only ever existed when MLP was popular. Retard.
STMikk1995 4 months ago
@STMikk1995 suppose it did. it was never used like the way the ponies used it. therefore it was used in a new and creative way, making it new again. this is the internet nothing is new.
astickywhale 4 months ago
ITS HERE!!!
TheDarkness489 4 months ago
I don't think I've ever been this excited for a patch :)
IMightBeAGeek 4 months ago
This may be my brony senses tingling, but I think "20% more evil" is supposed to be the signaling joke to me.
Coolblue3680 4 months ago
@Coolblue3680 First thought on my mind as well. But shhh.... don't let the haters know!
Shippoyasha 4 months ago
@Coolblue3680 cue the pony item.
plushieboy1234 4 months ago
@plushieboy1234 My little unicorn I think its called.
Lichwing 4 months ago
@Lichwing nope,literally the item called "a pony"
plushieboy1234 4 months ago
will i still get the game if i buy this game later on?
ghttboi 4 months ago
Holy fuck that was awesome. I have a weird taste for creepy stuff like this...
TheGamerNooob 4 months ago
Awesome! The Gaming just started updating for me :D
e18o 4 months ago
this game is amazing buy it!
lordkatakos 4 months ago
i found a picture of Eve and the demon baby item
TheDarkness489 4 months ago
i think..... the sheol is the hell??
TheDarkness489 4 months ago
@TheDarkness489 Sheol is the Hebrew word for Hell, also related to Abadon, meaning "place of destruction".
matoro1989 4 months ago
@matoro1989 ohhhhhh!!
TheDarkness489 4 months ago
NEED THIS UPDATE!!!
migduh 4 months ago
DARN YOU SERVER ISSUES
shinigamiryuk 4 months ago
Ya know, I got home from work all excited for this update, and it's delayed! FUUUUUUUUUCCCKKKKKK!!!!
LittleMissBDSM 4 months ago
Arena mode or new campaign mode perhaps? Playable devil and Meat Boy would be nice too.
TheTribes44 4 months ago
At this point, I wouldn't expect it out until tomorrow.
Lame valve is lame.
Bluedragon094 4 months ago
From Ed's Twitter:
"The Steam update is delayed to to server maintenance, once it's finished the update will go live. sorry about the wait. :)"
and
"No idea how long the maintenance will be but the update will for sure go up after it's finished."
Bluedragon094 4 months ago
oh..the updates not out yet?
I Just did a 30 Minute video on trying to Unlock Eve.
Da fuq.
FirstInLiine 4 months ago
Nearly 5 hours overdue... what's going on? :(
Bluedragon094 4 months ago
Well gee, this update is gonna be fun.
IF SOMEONE GETS OFF THEIR LAZY ASS AND RELEASES IT!
bidoof555 4 months ago
Update, Y U NO OUT YET???
KantusDemon 4 months ago
Why i watched this at night O_O ? Fuck dreams
zukas5 4 months ago
20% cooler.
ChardOfMight 4 months ago 103
@ChardOfMight In 10 seconds flat
Nyny830 4 months ago
have done it 10 times (and more) then just done the 11 but no new boss i found no new eve i did like 6 deals with the devil no new items (i think) did i do somethink rong?
MrMegaDavid 4 months ago
@MrMegaDavid the patch still isnt out yet :P
humbugle 4 months ago
>Implying we had hope to begin with
GREENNNNNNN2 4 months ago 3
@GREENNNNNNN2 Hehe, indeed.
As a side note; Remember kids, doning soul pacts is a bad thing.
mimeywimey 4 months ago
Videos like this make me wanna murder @Joroshira and @ProfessorGeheimnis xD
DarkXxXNightmare 4 months ago
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$5 for a flash game.
Nope.avi
I'll wait to pick it up when they decide to get off their ass and port it to C++ or something.
Joroshira 4 months ago
@Joroshira People like you make me want to murder something.
ProfessorGeheimnis 4 months ago 26
@ProfessorGeheimnis
Why? Because I expect some sort of stability and technical quality in the products I pay actual money for? Flash games can be great and I never said the game isn't good, however, unless the developer takes the time to improve the game in a progeamming enviroment that isn't shit, I won't bother with it.
I fail to see the issue here.
Joroshira 4 months ago
@Joroshira Flash 11 has full hardware acceleration, and actually runs really well. So when it's released, I'm sure they will optimize Isaac for it.
cardplaya012 4 months ago
@cardplaya012
And when that happens, I'll be greatful. Until then, I personally don't find enough work being done to the backend of the game to be truly great and be valuable enough to warrant any sum of money.
Joroshira 4 months ago
@Joroshira You know that this game has been out for a good while on steam right? Its not a flash game like Helicopter or cube runner or something off of adultswim. It's an actual game you tard. Its kinda like saying almost any indie game is just some crappy flash game.
CapnMoffitt 4 months ago
@CapnMoffitt
Nope. Indie games like VVVVV, Dungeons of Dreadmor, Braid, Nimbus and even Super Meat Boy had the creators take the time to properly code their games in a C/C++ enviroment, your argument is invalid.
I'm sure you can make a great game from flash, but once you start asking for money for your product, you better be able to make the effort to warrent me to pay for it. I don't see enough effort, therefore I don't buy it.
Simple as that.
Joroshira 4 months ago
@Joroshira But you know that this game looks, plays or is nothing like this trailer right? Couldn't tell if you did or not sorry. Well, one of the co-creators of SMB helped make this and after playing through it, i think it's a little more than just the average flash, but i also have 0% experience in flash so when it comes down to the c+++ w/e stuff, ima take your word for it
CapnMoffitt 4 months ago
@CapnMoffitt
Yea, I did actually play this game (demo). On a website. That hosted it like it's other quality Flash games. Its fun and all, but what I'm saying that if the dev wants to convince me that they care about this game, then they need to go take the extra step to atleast make it better on a enviroment that doesn't run like crud.
Nice talking to you though. :)
Joroshira 4 months ago
@Joroshira Developing games is so easy right, sorry that it doesn't work for you and that you have to spread your butthurt across youtube.
Slapmaster5000 4 months ago
@Slapmaster5000
lol
Joroshira 4 months ago
@Joroshira Yeah, that's what I fuckin thought tard.
Slapmaster5000 4 months ago
@Joroshira VVVVVV was originally created, and sold, when in Flash. It wasn't even Terry who recoded it in C++, so you've thrown your argument out of the window there :)
ASecondOpinion1501 4 months ago
@Joroshira Machinarium ran in flash and i could run that find on my old laptop that had 512mb of ram just fine. its not about the engine, its about how good the game is.
Koopsas 3 months ago
@Joroshira u butthurt bro?
thedjole123 3 months ago
@Joroshira People are already buying it but thanks for your opinion, btw the game is pretty damn good... worth the 5 dlls I bought it for :)
n0limit94 3 months ago
@Joroshira There are very little bugs in this game and its hardly like its a broken game i mean almost every game released has bugs and half of isaacs bugs don't even affect its gameplay they're usally just some sort of visual bug like some sprites disconnecting from each other i mean how many games released on xbox and playstation need a patch to fix a bug within a month of realease.Again every game has its bugs so don't judge something's platform for being buggy.
JoeTheMuffinMan74 2 months ago
@JoeTheMuffinMan74
Nice run-on sentence. I like the way you didn't even read my previous post and go on to talk about bugs- thats not the issue, atleast not anymore.
Also, we are talking about the PC, not your consoletoys.
Joroshira 2 months ago
@Joroshira just because of it being a flash game means it cannot be sold?
OH NO, IT WASNT MADE IN WHATEVER I LIKE SO IT MEANS ITS BAD!
Its about the dam quality of the game not with what its made.
so your saying that it is worth it paying 50$ for a shitty game with a good engine and not worth it buying a good game for 5$ that was made in flash?
superkerel9 4 months ago 41
@superkerel9 $50? from the sound of it he buys his games at $60 (PLUS TAX!) =P
all that being said I bought this game and I LOVE it, it's amazing, awesome, always fun, and it's ACTUALLY A CHALLENGE
Ultrox007 4 months ago
@superkerel9 It's a great game but flash runs horribly slow. Kinda like Minecraft being coded in Java,
MCCENTx2 3 months ago
@superkerel9
I feel like you enjoy the game for what it is worth- thats great. I'm glad you do.
However, I never said that the game is bad because of it. I believe that a game that any game worth money needs to have a certain build of quality, and flash in it's current iteration does not meet to *my* expectations.
I'm not saying that it is worth buying a poor game with a solid engine, nor am I saying that its bad or because its flash it cannot be sold. Your strawman doesn't work here, sry.
Joroshira 3 months ago
@Joroshira >nope.avi
>implying c++ is better
Oh_okay.xd
TwinsaneIncarnation 4 months ago
@Joroshira $5 for a game that I've had more fun with than any CoD game I've every played? Yup.wmv
it shouldn't matter what the game is made in so long as it's fun and worth paying for
Ultrox007 4 months ago
@Joroshira but 5$ for an awesome game? YES!!!! YEESS" by m bison.
lataaja 4 months ago
@Joroshira Fyi, Minecraft was made in Java. Go laugh at that one for a while.
SnoweyMan111 3 months ago
@SnoweyMan111
>Flash = Java
Are you a wizard?
Joroshira 3 months ago
@Joroshira Java is shit, not really meant to work as a game engine. While Flash is superb for that purpose. My point was that the engine doesn't matter. Notch used java because that's what he knew. And clearly the game idea is what determines the quality of that game.
Here i'd argue it's the same thing. Although a difference is that Minecraft was easy to mod. That's how java works in mojangs advantage right there.
That game would be dead as hell without mods/community support.
SnoweyMan111 3 months ago
@SnoweyMan111
So you argue that Java isn't meant to be a game engine, even though games like Runescape prove(ed?) its success before Minecraft and you also argued that Java allows Minecraft to have a huge modding community, even though Flash for Binding of Isaac sucks so much that it takes effort to even backup a save or requires an external program like Jo2Key for keybinds.
You are right that engines don't make good games, but I never argued against it. You aren't making any sense. Sorry.
Joroshira 3 months ago
@Joroshira The Binding of Isaac is a roguelike.
Runescape's success was with it being a browserbased F2P game. Much less to do with the engine. If they had used say Unity (well it wasn't around at the time, my point is there's better engines to use) they would probably have made a better game in most aspects. Runescape was quite clumsy.
You argued that a "wrong" (in this case Flash) engine would be directly ruining the game. Clearly not the case here and in Super meat boy.
SnoweyMan111 3 months ago
@SnoweyMan111
Obviously you seem misinformed. SMB is not made in flash, it was written in C++ or something. Atleast it didn't run like shit initially either.
The point you made before is that the engine doesn't dictate how good a game is, yet you turn around and say that Java made Runescape clumsy. Um, okay?
Finally, I don't think I said Flash is "directly ruining" Binding of Isaac, that is a exageration of my argument. Atleast read my previous comments and not the one thumbed up. Kthx
Joroshira 3 months ago
@Joroshira You don't have a tumbed up comment as I see. But I started off the discussion looking at that comment, that was my original criticism.
Also, you don't think Flash is runing the game?
"$5 for a flash game.
nope.avi"
That's you, pretty much sounds like you're judging the game solely based on it's engine.
Maybe you changed your mind, fine. I have no problem with that.
And you're right. SMB was made on something different from flash. Confusing with all the versions.
SnoweyMan111 3 months ago
@SnoweyMan111
I meant as in someone is responding to me who is thumbed up, look below.
As for my original comment, I have since fleshed out as to why I wouldn't be suppourting the game in it's current flash format, too lazy to re-write my arguments again, sorry. You sound like you are judging me entirely on one comment without looking at the others. Perhaps you'll change your mind, or not, as it doesn't really matter.
Arguing on the internet about a flash game is lols, especially superkerel9
Joroshira 3 months ago
@Joroshira Ah I see what comment you meant now. But I only read that once. And CLEARLY, i have replied to the rest of your comments as they are. I mean you complained about the lack of a savefeature, I responded that it's a roguelike, you ignored that, however. I assumed you just realized you couldn't demand such a feature for the game. But it seems you missed that part.
SnoweyMan111 3 months ago
@SnoweyMan111
Have I? That must be an error on my part, I think I meant "Saves" as in backups to game collection/progress (as BoI doesn't currently suppourt Steam Cloud, which is possibly limited by, *sigh* Flash) even then, I don't see what is wrong with including a save function. BoI doesn't play out like the typical rogue-like, if anything, its more like the dungeons for 2D Zeldas. Thats besides the point, though,
Joroshira 3 months ago
@SnoweyMan111 I don't mean to intrude in this awesome fight that you two are having, but I'll point out that most roguelikes I've played do have a save feature. You save and then you can get back to that spot and the save gets deleted. I get that BOI takes a lot less time to complete than, say, NetHack, but it's annoying when I'm playing then I have to stop for whatever reason and I need to either leave it running in the background or lose my current game.
flaetsbnort 3 months ago
@Joroshira Also, you're ignoring what I'm saying. Java didn't "ruin" that game. But it would probably be better on a different engine. Assuming the dev could handle it. Something that seems to confuse you is that I'm not arguing that an engine has no effect on a game. I argue that in this case, it doesn't. In others, it might have worked out better.
Reason he suggests joytokey is because it's designed for a keyboard. You shoot at straight angles. It's part of the game, makes it harder.
SnoweyMan111 3 months ago
@SnoweyMan111
You said Runescape was clumsy due to Java, I didn't claim that you said it ruined it. Please read my comments first, you seem to miss that alot.
A better engine would have improved the game from a concept into something that is worth money to *me* -as the developer didn't bother.
Also, Binding of Isaac may be created for a keyboard, but it certainly isn't ideal for tight gameplay. Reminds me of the Bioshock 2/360pad controversy.
Joroshira 3 months ago
@Joroshira I am reading your comment. What I meant by that statement is that the developers probably still could work with the engine to achive what they wanted. The restrictions of java didnt really impact the game that much I believe. But I didn't like the game because the game was so clunky imo. But that was all their decisions that ruined the game for me. Not the engine.
The binding of Isaac is as ideal as the developer wanted it you to be as restricted as you are.
It's not fit for gamepad
SnoweyMan111 3 months ago
@SnoweyMan111
I disagree, it works pretty well with a gamepad and any PC game should not have to be restricted to what PC Gamers would like to demand in the technical context of how they want to play their game. This is why obligitory start screens, 30FPS caps, encrypted configs, mouse smoothing and other annoyances plague other games.
The restrictions of Java doesn't ruin Runescape and neither does Flash for BoI, however, it keeps me from enjoying the game as I see fit, so I dont suppourt it
Joroshira 3 months ago
Shouldn't the update be out by now? Its 12:40 PST.
LeoRikimaru 4 months ago
trailer is fuckin' amazing!
Bozz1111 4 months ago
The fuck did I just watch
ShadowlordStratovari 4 months ago
20% more evil? does that mean it contains a post-cupcake stiched-together Rainbow Dash zombie boss? :p
LinkEX 4 months ago
@LinkEX oh hell no.
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@LinkEX Maybe more blood and awful thing :D!
DarkXxXNightmare 4 months ago
its ok i didnt want to sleep tonight anyway
WhiteFox743 4 months ago 3
thank you good sir. it appears that i need to get myself a pair of clean underpants.
lataaja 4 months ago 2
this scared me and i scare really hard
Joshy12322 4 months ago
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lataaja 4 months ago
MY HOPE IS GONE
WulfShank 4 months ago
god ED is some fucked dude.
XFX40 4 months ago
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Polymorpher 4 months ago
Why are his tears sapped out. DOES THIS MEAN WE LOSE ALL OUR LOOT WHEN WE GO IN SHEOL?
TheCayogMagor 4 months ago
scary shit <333
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MrAran551 4 months ago
6 HOURS
RA8IDP3NGUIN1 4 months ago
YES YES YES HURRY
TheCollect 4 months ago
There's no better way to say happy halloween then this!
CloudyLP 4 months ago
YES.
Infradead 4 months ago
I had no idea Satan was so religious, flashing the upside-down cross, which used to be considered VERY holy, all the time like that.
Also, I'm still irritated with the lack of "Jesus Loves Me" in the soundtrack. Danny acted like he put it in, but I KNOW it's not the final boss track and have no idea where else it would be, and it's not on the soundtrack, so I'm calling BS. He promised/threatened us!
inferno232 4 months ago
@inferno232 Its in the credits. I cant recall how many times I beat it to get it (it might have been the tenth)
SirMacjango 4 months ago