@gombagod These cigarettes are not real cigs they are counterfit if the cigs being sold were from the manufacter then it would be grey market but sense these are fakes made in china its black market also you can buy a 40 ft container worth of cigs from china for 140 USD then sell each for 1-3 dollars less than regular cigs and make like a 40 percent profit its crazy.Making hundreds of thousands a day.
Dear Bloomberg's Hipster College Grad Army...Please don't talk about this issue why don't we talk about how the reservations in the state have no income and this leaves only this option or a casino. But seeing as you don't care and you would rather make NYC a sterile place full of Starbucks then I guess you wont look into an issue such as this or maybe you can talk to the thousands of people you seem to not care about that you forcibly move from there homes in BK....
It is not about money, it is about some people putting their values on someone else, and say, "it for your own good." they did not learn from the past, only criminals get rich.........
grow your own people , you can have a years worth of smokes for a few bucks and extra time in a garden and they would be healthier than regular cigarettes
Well here's an idea, don't put so much tax on the things. It's the same story with drugs, and it IS the state's fault that criminals get their hands of these things.
@R0undAboutMidnight Sometimes I wonder where the fuck these ass clown lawmakers get their education from! Seriously an ordinary person will tell you that reduce taxes and the black market will cease. I agree with you and you prove my point that most ordinary citizens have common sense than these harvard educated pricks.
maybe if the government didn't try to shove its moral bullshit down our throats by taxing cigs so theyre so expensive to try and get people to stop things like this wouldnt happen
Gee, this wasn't a predictable situation, was it? People were already buying a lot of cigs from reservations years ago when 7-11s sold them for 2 bucks a pack and people thought that was too much. Maybe we'll have gang wars like we do over drugs profits now
I hear ya. in ontario a pack of dumaurier is 11$, go to a reserve and their brands, which taste the same if not better are 4$ because there no provincial tax. its technically smuggling to bring them off the reserve but Ive never seen anyone checking and when youre saving 7$ a pack its well worth doing.
This woman in the video is clueless. I gurantee you if she had gotten addicted to ciggarettes by the corporations then aided by the Goverment jacked the taxes to impossible prices that the poor who are paying these taxes cannot afford. So yeah they are buying market ciggarettes.
Goverement don't be so damn GREEDY AND YOU PROBALY WOULD NOT LOSE TAX REVENUE.
Yup! Only one to blame for this "problem" are the democrats that think you can tax people into better health, I think its great people are selling underground smokes! Needs to be more PrivateTobacco Growers here in the US that sell there tobacco
Man, Fuck taxes on consumables. It's our choice what we put in our bodies. If I want to smoke tobacco or smoke meth, it's my choice. Why should we be penalized for hurting our health?
When I was living in NYC from 2005 up until February of this year, I LEGALLY, all City, State and Federal Taxes, PAID IN FULL, paid no more than $1 Dollar a Pack.
If I had gone through my local corner bodega and paid their rates it would have cost more than my rent for the month.
Tell me how putting more disposable income into the hands of New Yorkers is a BAD THING?
Your Premise SUCKS.
Mayor Mike could give a rats ass about the Working Poor of NYC, why are you helping his nonsense agenda?!?
Oh the horror of it all. We must make this black market disappear and stop the folks from buying all these illicit cigarettes. That way, we can wage a new Prohibition. We can create new Al Capones and have people driving thru the streets with tommy guns. The new Untouchables will smash kegs of tobacco, while the butt bureaucrats take cash under the table to look the other way.
When I say that every resident on the Poospatuck reservation would need to smoke 15 cigarettes per minute to "legally consume" the 2.3 billion cigarettes that tribe purchased in 2007, I am considering New York State tax law, which allows members of a tribe to legally sell untaxed cigarettes to other members of its reservation, but requires that cigarette sales to anyone off that reservation be taxed as they would elsewhere in the state. Kate Willson, CPI staff writer
True story. The N.Y. tax agents came down to N.C. They were spying on some smugglers loading a truck full of cigarettes. The smugglers, who were locals called the cops. The cops threw down on them and searched and disarmed them. The New Yawkers' shouted "we're NY tax officers" the cops said "we know who you are"! They gave them their guns back and told them to get the hell out of town and don't come back or they'd be locked up! LOL
why dont they go after people buying untaxed alcohol in another state like New Hampshire? Thousands of fed up people in Massachusettes are driving to New Hampshire to save money in alcohol! Shouldnt they pay the tax in the state in MA when they bring their alcohol back home? Or the people that drive to other states and Mexico to get cheaper gas? Should they be forced to pay the taxes on that gas when they get back home?
Why they only going after the people who want affordable cigarettes?
The reservation is not a real reservation. The Indians are not really Indians. But your outfit is racist and anti-Indian, for sure. Give Indians the authority to enforce tribal law on non-Indians if you want change.
The Poospatuck reservation, although not federally recognized, is recognized by New York state, and the U.S. Census bureau lists 76 percent of its residents as American Indian. CPI is a non-partisan, non-profit organization of investigative journalists who work hard to be thorough and fair in our reporting, which at times necessarily touches on sensitive issues such as race and ethnicity. Anti-Indian? Hardly. Check our website and judge for yourself. Kate Willson, CPI staff writer
Cigarette smuggling is not a black market. Its a grey market.
gombagod 7 months ago
@gombagod These cigarettes are not real cigs they are counterfit if the cigs being sold were from the manufacter then it would be grey market but sense these are fakes made in china its black market also you can buy a 40 ft container worth of cigs from china for 140 USD then sell each for 1-3 dollars less than regular cigs and make like a 40 percent profit its crazy.Making hundreds of thousands a day.
khalsa1960 1 month ago
Prohibition failed with alcohol and it will fail with Tobacco.
machizmo77 11 months ago
what do you mean this was done with liquor?
U talking about prohibition? That had nothing to do with the government raising taxes on alcohol. They made alcohol illegal.
KripDrip 1 year ago
Ny is convincing me thievery is ok!! as long as it is legally stolen.....like cig. tax.....fucking thieves!!!!!! it is just sick......
imnotsmartbutimtryin 1 year ago
Dear Bloomberg's Hipster College Grad Army...Please don't talk about this issue why don't we talk about how the reservations in the state have no income and this leaves only this option or a casino. But seeing as you don't care and you would rather make NYC a sterile place full of Starbucks then I guess you wont look into an issue such as this or maybe you can talk to the thousands of people you seem to not care about that you forcibly move from there homes in BK....
TheNYCutube 1 year ago
Great reporting on the cigarette smugglers. that looked like a dangerous assignment reporting on that story
MyHeythere1 1 year ago
Indians....
holyshizzleitsconnor 1 year ago
It is not about money, it is about some people putting their values on someone else, and say, "it for your own good." they did not learn from the past, only criminals get rich.........
nobody10456 1 year ago
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taxes are not lost when they are never paid. taxes are lost when they are wasted on stupid bullcrap.
bonkswa 1 year ago
grow your own people , you can have a years worth of smokes for a few bucks and extra time in a garden and they would be healthier than regular cigarettes
haydenman2 1 year ago 2
Well here's an idea, don't put so much tax on the things. It's the same story with drugs, and it IS the state's fault that criminals get their hands of these things.
R0undAboutMidnight 1 year ago 4
@R0undAboutMidnight Sometimes I wonder where the fuck these ass clown lawmakers get their education from! Seriously an ordinary person will tell you that reduce taxes and the black market will cease. I agree with you and you prove my point that most ordinary citizens have common sense than these harvard educated pricks.
Revanchist12 1 year ago
maybe if the government didn't try to shove its moral bullshit down our throats by taxing cigs so theyre so expensive to try and get people to stop things like this wouldnt happen
EvilMetalHed666 1 year ago 4
Gee, this wasn't a predictable situation, was it? People were already buying a lot of cigs from reservations years ago when 7-11s sold them for 2 bucks a pack and people thought that was too much. Maybe we'll have gang wars like we do over drugs profits now
luridplanet 1 year ago
just say no to illegal laws. .... which, it seems, a lot of people are doing.
fewwereinmymovie 1 year ago
they pay taxes = businessmen
no taxes = smugglers
no shut up bitch and show tits
GhettoTuerken 2 years ago
fuck taxes
thorsmitersaw 2 years ago
this bitch doesnt know what fuck shes talking about
MrThekid1988 2 years ago 3
cigarette are too coslty
i just buy the illegal cartoons for 20 $
you get 200 cigarettes for only 20 $ !!!
coshyno 2 years ago
all the people on that reservation are black,.there are no Indians on that reservation!!
basskillaz 2 years ago
you think thats bad? in ireland they cost 11 euro a pack thats about 16 dollars!!!
its really fucked up and then you see tons of cigarettes beeing smuggled into the country
chillercm 2 years ago
I hear ya. in ontario a pack of dumaurier is 11$, go to a reserve and their brands, which taste the same if not better are 4$ because there no provincial tax. its technically smuggling to bring them off the reserve but Ive never seen anyone checking and when youre saving 7$ a pack its well worth doing.
TheCaptainLulz 2 years ago
This woman in the video is clueless. I gurantee you if she had gotten addicted to ciggarettes by the corporations then aided by the Goverment jacked the taxes to impossible prices that the poor who are paying these taxes cannot afford. So yeah they are buying market ciggarettes.
Goverement don't be so damn GREEDY AND YOU PROBALY WOULD NOT LOSE TAX REVENUE.
valhala56 2 years ago 2
Yup! Only one to blame for this "problem" are the democrats that think you can tax people into better health, I think its great people are selling underground smokes! Needs to be more PrivateTobacco Growers here in the US that sell there tobacco
Tax free!
beestube76 2 years ago
Man, Fuck taxes on consumables. It's our choice what we put in our bodies. If I want to smoke tobacco or smoke meth, it's my choice. Why should we be penalized for hurting our health?
timothyxmcveigh 2 years ago
Lay still for State Gouging!
If you don't stuff the pockets of thieving lawmakers you're a bad bad person.
The gov't is the biggest black market racket in the world!
deckchairs1 2 years ago 13
When I was living in NYC from 2005 up until February of this year, I LEGALLY, all City, State and Federal Taxes, PAID IN FULL, paid no more than $1 Dollar a Pack.
If I had gone through my local corner bodega and paid their rates it would have cost more than my rent for the month.
Tell me how putting more disposable income into the hands of New Yorkers is a BAD THING?
Your Premise SUCKS.
Mayor Mike could give a rats ass about the Working Poor of NYC, why are you helping his nonsense agenda?!?
DigitalKomponents 2 years ago 6
how much does a pack of cigarettes from a bodega in NYC cost now? And who in their right mind would pay this kind of money just for a cigarette!
tatomuck18 1 year ago
Is it really Honest or American to target a minority group , who use a legal product in the USA, and then tax to punish that minority?
Fockersnextdoor 2 years ago
Get rid of the excessive regressvive cigarette taxes & there will be no need for a black market.
spatter188 2 years ago 2
Oh the horror of it all. We must make this black market disappear and stop the folks from buying all these illicit cigarettes. That way, we can wage a new Prohibition. We can create new Al Capones and have people driving thru the streets with tommy guns. The new Untouchables will smash kegs of tobacco, while the butt bureaucrats take cash under the table to look the other way.
Get a life you anti-smoking loonies.
meershaum 3 years ago 2
What exactly is "legally consume"?
KushinLos 3 years ago
When I say that every resident on the Poospatuck reservation would need to smoke 15 cigarettes per minute to "legally consume" the 2.3 billion cigarettes that tribe purchased in 2007, I am considering New York State tax law, which allows members of a tribe to legally sell untaxed cigarettes to other members of its reservation, but requires that cigarette sales to anyone off that reservation be taxed as they would elsewhere in the state. Kate Willson, CPI staff writer
cpiweb 3 years ago
you don't make much sense ...
stonerj0e 3 years ago
True story. The N.Y. tax agents came down to N.C. They were spying on some smugglers loading a truck full of cigarettes. The smugglers, who were locals called the cops. The cops threw down on them and searched and disarmed them. The New Yawkers' shouted "we're NY tax officers" the cops said "we know who you are"! They gave them their guns back and told them to get the hell out of town and don't come back or they'd be locked up! LOL
Stonewalljackson7 1 year ago 2
why dont they go after people buying untaxed alcohol in another state like New Hampshire? Thousands of fed up people in Massachusettes are driving to New Hampshire to save money in alcohol! Shouldnt they pay the tax in the state in MA when they bring their alcohol back home? Or the people that drive to other states and Mexico to get cheaper gas? Should they be forced to pay the taxes on that gas when they get back home?
Why they only going after the people who want affordable cigarettes?
KripDrip 1 year ago
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Stonewalljackson7 1 year ago
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MyHeythere1 1 year ago
The reservation is not a real reservation. The Indians are not really Indians. But your outfit is racist and anti-Indian, for sure. Give Indians the authority to enforce tribal law on non-Indians if you want change.
Artistspop 3 years ago
The Poospatuck reservation, although not federally recognized, is recognized by New York state, and the U.S. Census bureau lists 76 percent of its residents as American Indian. CPI is a non-partisan, non-profit organization of investigative journalists who work hard to be thorough and fair in our reporting, which at times necessarily touches on sensitive issues such as race and ethnicity. Anti-Indian? Hardly. Check our website and judge for yourself. Kate Willson, CPI staff writer
cpiweb 3 years ago
@cpiweb you fuck
TheBilly5000 1 year ago
@Artistspop THEY STOPPPED EIGHTEEN WHEEL SEMI TRUCKS BRINGING LOADS OF CIGS TO SMOKE SHOPS
thoostorm4 1 year ago