China, India, and the Global Environment - Fred Krupp

[blackkat888]

over the past 100 years, 85% of the green house gases in the atmosphere was emitted by 32 industrialised countries( making up less than 10% population) NOT including india and china.

now that they wanna develop - lets just ask them to stop and it would be totally fair on us.

also china has 5 times the population of US and emits roughly the same amt

simple math- energy consumption per citizen in china is 5 times lesser than U.S.

but lets not talk abt these facts. they are just bad and immoral

[krenim786]

co2 emissions are unfortunately a necessary evil required for development and all people have equal rights to development therefore we should aim to reduce the average per capita co2 emissions i.e the west should cut its emissions per capita by 80% and transfer tech to india and china to prevent them from exceeding their emissions per capita.else asking india and china to reduce emissions at this stage of their development is not enviormentalism it is eco imperialism!

[test123ok]

when will these ideas be put into action. We've seen administrations come and go with false promises. one of the several problems is that when people get power they forget everything...priorities change, everything is politics and bureaucracy. It took days to get food and water to katrina survivors..just shows..

[mallamoozoo]

Problem is Indians and Chinese are just as ego driven and superficially materialistic as Westerners - they will want to consume just as selfishly as we have done. Unfortunately - the environment can't even sustain just Western consumption much longer - so to then throw in 2 billion more consumers - it's turning up the heat just as things are already about to blow!

We are SCREWED! Seriously - only catastrophe is going to establish equilibrium in the environment. Humans are just too selfish.

[panniize]

@mallamoozoo Oooh yeah, after extolling and enjoying the values of capitalism and mindless consumerism for 200 years, lets lecture the third world that's slowly starting to gain legs on how to NOT follow them. F off.

[jerkto]

China and India have a LOT more people. US is still way ahead in per capita pollution. You can't just compare countries...otherwise France and Singapore would have the right to pollute as much as the US.

[nicanicabad]

thanks

[aquamammal]

When the US gets its act together, the world will stop being so antagonistic towards climate change reversal unity.

But honestly, if you still deny climate change, fuck your aspirations.

XVX for life, R.A.S.H. 'til death.

[jefboyardee]

What an incredible fallacy.