This is totally dipshit. It takes three phases generated inefficiently and turns it back to pulsed DC, The only people who will be impressed by that circuit diagram will be those who are unable to read it.
Hi, I would like to add my 2 cents to your video and experiments. At the begining we see your motor and alternator and you showing the speed of the motor. That is what cought my attention, you might be getting different results if you run the alternator at higher speed. The commun alternator wil start to perform at 2000rpm and you have yours at 1:1 ratio on a 1750 rpm motor. He had his system running on a car engine, you may get better results you get a full output of the alternator. good luck.
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There are so many of these HHO generators.Some are installed onto vehicles claiming over a 50% reduction in fuel consumption due to the benefits of the gas mixture on the combustion process.So many differant plans available to build your own.There is a prize of 1 million $ from a fellow in Sweden for the first supplimental hydrogen generator equipt car to get a 35% reduction in fuel consumption.Someone please claim the prize...so we can see who has it figured out.Thank you.
Nice setup, I am surprised you get 1 amp with distilled water. If you add baking soda, it wont have a negative effect on the stainless steel or any other components, but your production will explode out of proportion :P
Don't listen to the freaks here, they know nothing because they never actively have done anything. Make sure the wiring will carry at least 40 amps no problem. You should easily get 20-30 out of that cell. When it warms up inside, it will get way more efficient too!
I understand. Is your system still set up? I mean, do you think you can get that data for me? I just need to know the Peak-wattage and the continuous-wattage-draw. Does the alternator put a lot of drag on the motor? Thanks for your time and info.
@chicksfollowme It's a cycle...HHO = H2O HHO is a gas and H2O is water. It's just how the atom's are arranged by their energy state. Energy is released when atoms combine and when atoms separate. Now you have a reason to stay awake in science class...... :0)
Have you bothered to measure the Surge-Wattage and continuous wattage draw of motor? I'm curious to know how much power the motor is using given that the alternator is being ran with a load.
@bartley440 Thanks for the upload exelent work! your 12v power supply is providing power to the alternator rotor? did you eliminate the regulator of the alternator? Also if possible could you provide a post with schematic drawing?
this has got to be one of the most simplest and working model i have seen.
@HeuristicObfuscation Yes I used the PC power supply to power the rotor. I used the 5V leads but the 12 volt leads worked too on the power supply. The older Chrysler alternators (1969) had external regulators. If you look at time point 1:28 of this video you will see the schematic . The only thing I changed was I used a PC power supply and Stan had a variac AC power supply. I will post a new video using the variac to compare the wave forms of each.
@bartley440 Thanks again for your quick response. Do you know if the powersupply is providing a rectified direct curent to the rotor or is it unipolar pulse?
in otherwords can we use a standard 12v battery instead?
@HeuristicObfuscation Yes, a 12v battery would work. Stan used the Variac and in my next video I will show the waveform of both to see if it changes the waveform output from the alternator. The Variac output is a rectified AC (60hz pulsed DC) signal. The power supply is a rectified and Filtered DC signal.
@rangerclass7s Also known as Brown's gas, HHO is simply a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen gas. He is using electrolysis in this video to separate the H2O of water into it's component elements. Brown's gas is highly flammable, even explosive, and should be handled with extraordinary care. It is Much safer to use DC rather than unregulated AC from the alternator, with separate electrodes collecting the hydrogen and oxygen separately.
Ya, either A holes just have to much time on there hands to call bs on everything they know nothing about, or they're troll ~ ticks on the back of progress !! The latter for reality escapes them ! the man teaching is amazing!!! His other stuff - small engine fundamentals - I believe . ERS!
Dear taztaz79, why must make such a dumb comment as you just did. My company is iintegrating bigger HHO systems than anyone has ever seen in the USA. If you ever wanna learn something new, I may teach you.
i hope you ppl dont think you can run this in a car. b/c it will not work his eng is runing off of ac power. wow this is a load of b/s. a alternator only puts out 12 to 18 votes dude sorry but you are full of bull shit.
I am willing to bet anyone any amount that our cells will increase your current mpg by an average of 80% by only using the excess amperage your alternator is already putting out. Thermodynamic laws,blah, blah,blah!! I am sooo tired of all the supposed information out there that proves why it wont work. I cant think of any entity that could have soo much to fear.
@sonicchill1 Would you give a written guarantee as per your web sites claim re HHO generator, " that you can assemble and install yourself on your automobile that can increase your miles-per-gallon average by up to 25% or more". You dont even sell generators do you, You sell DVD / CD's.
It wont work efficiently. Any body can make HHO but if it could be made the way these HHO freaks claim every car would have it. IT WONT WORK. At the very best to make a dollars worth of HHO will cost a dollar. More like a dollar of HHO will cost $1.50 + So whats the point.
@truthseeka1 Yes, electrolysis is not very efficient. Stan Meyer claims he wasn't using electrolysis. I'm just trying to verify Stan's work one way or the other (Prove or Disprove it). I'm not selling anything or claiming anything, just seeking the truth ...without criticizing :0)
@bartley440 electrolysis is more effecient, Ilookedup how much power it requires to refine 1 gallon of gasoline from oil = 6000 watts.. :-\ takes 180 watts to make a gallon of hho..you call that ineficient? No, I think you dont realize hydrogen is a better fuel, hell, only 50% of gasoline fed to a combustion engine actually ignites, the rest of the unburnt gas goes out the tailpipe... why gasoline polutes in the first place, its inefecient at combusting.
That is like saying, I can make a better hamburger than McDonald, so I'm going to start selling them and bring down Mc... see the problem in there? if you don't then you don't understand markets or how the mass introduction of abundant, efficient, and cheap products that you can make your self don't become industries.
This system is not just proven but on sale in Japan.
It makes me smile when I see innocence is still around.
@Ramiromasters actually, gasolone engines run on all kinds of fuels that are flameable., like gasoline, propane, natural gal.. ydrogen just happens to be the most flameable of them all, burning 9x faster thengasoline and generating 3x the force with half as much.
The technology is proven and has been for 300 years... electrolysis is not a new thing..
BMW Hydrogen 7 the same 4.6 litre v12 in the 7 series line running on 100% hydrogen from a tank filled with liquid hydrogen.
@Me102288 Yea my reply was to a person who wondered "if this was true then how come don't people have them already"
Just like a child... you know they imagine a scientist working on a big altruistic lab when they make that big discovery and call up a press conference! and upon that point humanity gain new technology...
I have to bring those people back to the real world, a world full of cold of business and the filthy oil industry.
@Ramiromasters. Your analogies about hamburgers and scientists etc at the very least are suggestive of some sort of mental disorder. In my comment I said "it wont work EFFICIENTLY, if it could be made the way these HHO freaks claim every car would have it". I'm talking about producing HHO EFFICIENTLY. Theres no doubt that there are some impressive looking generators making HHO on youtube, However they are not efficient. Did you know BMW Hydrogen car uses approx 50Ltrs of hydrogen per 100km
@truthseeka1 Look they sell the dam car now, ok its not my opinion. You have a problem with that then go explain those Japanese people why the laws of physics according to you don't allow that car to run.
I did one of this HHO systems my self, they don't work 1 liter per minute is not going to give you much, considering the car breads 2,000 L per minute on average.
This people who made it work, transform the water into HHO at the injection.
@truthseeka1 BMW Hydrogen 7 runs on hydrgen... passed 8 week test by nasa.
I have no idea what he's trying to ackomplish with this setup.. be more effecient to just pluge the pc psu into the wallplug... thats what I do, wire my lil 4" sqaure 11 plate drycell to 12 volt 30 amp line, only pulls 5 amps, yet generates 1.5 litre hho a minute, this guys getting very very little hho.. He needs a plate cell, more surfece area = more hho.
@truthseeka1 or you replace the nasty alternater with a permanent magnet alternater and get 40% more electricity output to feed the ELECTROLYSIS (or Hydroxy, browns gas, HHO generator) and run the vehicle entirely on hho.
Truth is combustion engines run on combustable fuels, like gasoline, propane, natural gas, hell even methane. Think you guy should know hydrogen alone will run a combustion engine...oxygen is an accelerent...
@truthseeka1 lol funny you dont know water is free, and thats what hho comes from. You dont get it... would you rather continue buying $4 dollar a gallon gasoline, or would you like free fuel for the rest of your life...
BMW Hydrogen 7... passed 8 week test at NASA.... you can find it at the bmw website.. no its not a fuel cell. its the same internal combustion 4.6 litre v12...
we already know gasoline engines run on just hydrogen....
@Me102288. Notice I said these HHO freaks in my comment, Anyway correct me if I'm wrong but the BMW Hydrogen 7 consumes approx 50 litres of Hydrogen per 100km/s. Thats HYDROGEN not hydrogen and oxygen (HHO). Just so you know its a 6 litre engine not 4.6 as noted in your comment. Nowhere in my comment am I disputing an internal combustion engine can't run on Hydrogen. My point is you cannot make hydrogen or HHO EFFICIENTLY by way of electrolysis.
@truthseeka1 probably, but look at the size of the engine... lol.. thats like expecting a dodge hemi to get 35 miles to the gallon :-)
Anyway, 95% of all the drivers today are in little 4 cylinder cars, 1.4 to 2.6 litre .. probably use 1/5 of 50 litres/100 mile
Besides that theyre useing just hydrogen, hho is oxygen too,, :-) an accelerent to combustion... lot more bang in a combustion engine = you done need as much "fuel" :-)
@truthseeka1 ok 50 litres? is 11 gallons, so your basically saying a huge v12 isn't as fuel effecient as a small one.. LoL I bet that ebgine on any fuel is going to get bad mileage, but how bad? 11 gallons in 100 kilometers is
9 miles to the gallon, which also means 1/4 the size engine (1.6 litre) will get 36 miles to the gallon.. 36 miles to a gallon... and we are making Hydrogen + Oxygen (HHO) Oxygen is an accelerent...you'd need a bit less hydrogen...
@truthseeka1 until you relize hho does 9x the work of gasoline... its the highest octace fuel on the PLANET... you don't even need as much to run it, if you replace the normal alternater with a permanent magnet alternater you'd have 40% more electricity then the vehicle requires.. there's the power to generate the hho..
Far as not using electrolyte, well, the problem there is water is a natural resistor..
@truthseeka1 LOL thats rather ignorant of you, I know gasoline is less combustable then gasoline. Why? because I've handled both. I've also built engines, so I know EXACTLY what I'm doing. I'm replacing a FLAMEABLE fuel with an EXPLOSIVE one. Understand yet? combustion engines run on propane, methane, natural gas, Methonal, because they combust aka explode in a cyclinder and push a piston with an explosion.
gallon of gas refined = 6000 watts, hho? 180 watts.
@Me102288 Im more arrogant than ignorant. Especially when it comes to HHO freaks. You have deviated to what engines can run on, and permanent magnet alternators. I will say again what I said before you cannot make hydrogen or HHO EFFICIENTLY by way of electrolysis. Just so you know, combustion is a controlled burn regardless of fuel, if you start introducing explosions in engines then you risk blowing holes in pistons and blowing head gaskets etc. Detonation! (re engines) look it up.
@truthseeka1 truth is combustion engines run on combustables, you dont get it do you,HHO is Hydrogen and Oxygen,, Oxygens an accelerent.. If you can run one on hydrogen, whitch you know works, hydrogen is more explosplosive you wouldnt need as much HHO as you would Hydrogen.As for engines, good thing about hydrogen, it doesnt predetonate and it does need to be compressed..
Lol clued in yet, burns 9x faster then gasoline. outputs the same work with less fuel..
the output is right, its just your settings for frequency it divides per cell, if u change it ull notice the output waveform is similar to DC voltage I believe
You can test your alt with an ohm meter to make sure all 3 phases match. The alternator has an internal bridge rectifier- you might have to make a new one because they do go bad.
@MightyZarkon has to be DC input to electrolysis, AC your electrodes will switch polarity and you will get 0 electrolysis and 100% heat.
Any alternater for a car charges a DC battery so, the bridge rectifiers are absolutely necesary. All positive electrodes should be wires in paralel, same with negative electrode, this is to make sure all the elecrodes are at the same voltage and amperage. Its know 1.47 volts per "plate gap" is most effecient, mines 11 plate cell at 12volt, never boils
Kevin West-water for fuel dot com- has a setup very similar but he rewinds his alternators first. The latest I heard was he was rewinding one for more amperage-thicker wire. Also, you need the right alternator with no limiting regulator transistors. Great work though really nice set up.
@MightyZarkon you need a dc output power source, thats all, permanent magnet alternators are best because standard alternaters require electricty to magnetize the spinning stator so it can ever generate electricty, bad effeciency, replace electromagnet with permanent magnets and you no longer require a battery :-)
and don't remove a regulater, its meant so the alternater doesn't overvolt and fry its coils. thick wire = more volts, thin wire = more amps..
@MightyZarkon kinda waste of time, tell him to buy a permanent magnet alternater and he'll get +40% electricity from just the effeciency of pma's
since normal car alternater have an electromagnetic stator, it rerquires electricity to magnetize the "magnets"
taking power to make power was a stupid design, an very ineffecient.. wastes energy. PMA's get that 40% back by simply replacing the electromagnet with permanentt ones. :-)
@Me102288 Yeah partly true but isn't the point of pulsing power to the feild coils of the alternator is that you can get the wave and frequency right, something a magnet can't do? I guess you could still add an electronic module after the alternator circuit to do what you said.
@MightyZarkon pulsing power into is the exact same as pulsing power out of.. ;-)
permanent magnet alternater charges battery, battery to pulsing device.... hmm, technically you would pulse less then what you'd put into the battery, sounds like an interesting test.
@02rashad I use a 1/3 HP electric motor powered by 110ac. The electric motor would be the car engine if it were installed in an automobile. It's easier to test the cell this way.
@02rashad the internal combustion engine spins an alternater to supply power to things like heating/air conditioning, lights, radio.... they're required of every vehicle , I'm just talking about replacing it with somthing 40% more effecient at generating electricity :-)
@bartley440 I have 4" sqaure drycell. 11 plates in - n n n n + n n n n - it put out 1.5 litre of hho per minute from 12volts @ 5 to 10 Amps, I bought from HHO2U.com
I use pc psu like this but its plugged into the house power, 1.47 volts per plate gap is effecient electrolysis, I notice my generator should be 14volts and notice the water is not heating up enough to create waste heat... perhaps you and me should add more electolyte ;-)
@Me102288 Very true. But going further, why not skip the hho gen and go plasma ignition? Use an ultrasonic transducer (fogger) in water and send that into the intake of the engine and the plasma ignition will burn the vapor. It should work.
@WilliamTapley because the fuel is the problem, not the ignition... hydrogen is like 130 octane.. compared to gasoline, normaly 89 octane.. Simple fact is you dont get your bang for the buck with gasoline.
and too think, 50 years ago gas was 35 cents a gallon.. today its closer to 400 cents a gallon... that can only mean in another 50 years, we'll be paying close to $8 a gallon. While the oil businness lines its pockets in cash...
@Me102288 Actually ignition is the problem. A bigger spark does make the difference. After all, the fuel being injected is in liquid form but liquid gasoline does not burn. Only the fuel vapours. Don't get caught in the misinformation that everyone says that the intensity of the spark does not matter. It really does matter a whole lot.
@WilliamTapley with gasoline yes because all of the gas in an engine cylinder doesny explode.. actually I heard less the half actually explodes, but then again, gasoline is a terrible fuel and should have been replaced with hydrogen 300 years ago.
@WilliamTapley I'm sorry, your right with gasoline... but hydrogen has a very low ignition point. you dont need to ungrade the ignition.. gasoline is a really ineffecient fuel yes, onlt about 30% of the gas we shovein engines burns in the first place.. Leaving all the nasty unburnt chemicals out the tail pipe :-\
@WilliamTapley no I dont think you understand what I mean, hydrogen + oxygen will ignite will very small spark, all of it burns when its ingnited, you do not need a 300 amp plasma system to ignite it....
Gasoline would benifit from a "hotter" spark but you really have to know what your doing, to hot and you get pre detonation. And thats bad, you'l get backfires when pistons arent at top dead center and possible crack a piston or break a connecting rod :-(
@Me102288 You'd be surprised at the benefits of the plasma ignition even with HHO. The problem is producing enough HHO to actually run a car without using electrolyte. Seems like only Meyer was able to get the process down to actually run a vehicle with it. Now everyone is running electrolyte, heating up the water, and steam is being sent into the engine as well as the combustible gases. The steam would benefit from the plasma ignition. Search for ultrasonic fogger in gas ;)
@WilliamTapley no I wouldnt, because hho has no problems igniting., It a fact the all of the hho in an engine cyclinder ignites being hho burns 9x faster then gasoline. Anybody that is generating steam is running the cell at to many volts.. effecienct electrolysis happens at 1.47 volts. I have an 11 plate sell, it should be running 14 volts (1.47voolts per electrode gap) but I'm running it at 12volts. Use Lye as electrolyte in distilled water..
@Me102288 Efficient electrolysis happens at 1.47 volts? How can you not produce steam then? You're just using amps and that will just create heat. You need high voltage and low amps.
High voltage motors can run cooler than low voltage high amp motors for the same reason... I don't think your plates will last too long using lye and high amps.
@WilliamTapley the plates are 316L stainless, they're immune to what your thinking.. Is called grain boundary carbine precipitation.. High voltage isn't available in vehilces... your limited to 1volts. As this is all about on demand hho systems, tell me what are you going to do with your house voltage when your car is 100 miles away? Hope your not planning on storing it, cuz you only got about 30 seconds before it starts turning back to water :-\
@Me102288 Uh, 316L stainless is not immune. It might be able to withstand a bit better, maybe months to a few years at best, but definitely not immune. Your right, high voltage isn't available in vehicles. I guess you haven't heard of voltage multiplier circuits. They're pretty easy to build. Meyer used a toroid for his setup. Think outside of the 'box'.
@WilliamTapley hmm thinging outside the box is no point, its been tested as the longest lasting material for electrolysis, they've even tried titanium and platinum, they both work about the same but cost a heck of a lot more. simple fact is its not whats outside of the box, its what ya put into it. and thats the only reason my lil 4" cube 11 plate drycell puts out more the its own dispacement, 1.5 litre's at 12volts/5 amps,
@WilliamTapley uh yeah,, you know 12 volts at 1 amp is 12 watts so is 1 volt a 12 amps.... fact is your puttinthe the same ammount of power either way.
@WilliamTapley without using electrolyte? not possible, water is a nattural resister.. you have to make it less resistant to get any power through it :-(
@WilliamTapley Your stating you can get a constant flow of hho for say, 8 hour without electricity? :-)
I know every known way of producing hydrogen, one involes electricy and is a constant
the other in through chemical reaction, which is not constant and consumes aluminium.
would you like to tell me you figured out a way to get hydroxy without using anything at a constant rate of say, I'll make it a low # for ya,,, say 1 litre a minute for 4 hours :-)
@WilliamTapley LOL I'm a teacher. But Ido know all the other ways involve a process that cant be mounted on a vehicle.
Electrolys is getting more effecient by people, So dont call me closed minded. Soon as it works I'm replacing all our cars gasoline tank with water tanks.
AND going off grid when generators running on hho brake the overunity law..
Laws written by humans are a flawed because humans are flawed.
Sadly. The One who fashioned you from clay created laws. Funny how a simple bumble bee defies the 'laws' of physics by flying. You won't replace your gasoline tank with a water tank.
Why not go with something tangible you can do right now? Look up the pogue carburetor for 200mpg. It's not HHO and it's not overunity, but it'll save you a ton of money.
@WilliamTapley There's always the people who say "you cant do that" or "its impossible", but when it happens they feel silly. Where there's a will, there's a way. Who are you to say what is and isn't possible? God?
@WilliamTapley lol a carbourater is a mechanical device. Hydrogen cumbusts 9x faster and 99% cleaner...
Gasoline is less of a fuel then hydrogen and pure oxygen combusted.
Combustion engines run on combustion engines. its a simple rule, the more explosive and effecient fuel = you need LESS of it to maintain what lesser fuels recuire more.. gasoline doesnt even explode its flameable.
@Me102288 Come on. What exactly are you trying to get at? Yes a carburetor is a mechanical device, but I'm trying to explain to you that gasoline vapours burn more efficiently and can get you upwards of 200mpg if done correctly. That right there is a step in the right direction (for now) then maybe you can work on plasma spark etc.
@WilliamTapley the point is adding hho to any fuel makes it burn faster... ignition just ignites what your using as fuel... its not necesary because hho is already making it easier to ignite and therefore increase the comstion of any other fuel..
so using a bit of excess power off the alternator is easy..
It takes way to much power to create plasma.. Look at the microwave a grape plasma.. that spen over 18000 watts.... takes 180 watts to make a gallon of hho..t
@WilliamTapley ya, I clued in normal electromagnet stor alternaters use 40% of theyre power output just to magnetize the stator to produce electricity.. very ineffecient. I notice the permanent magnet alternaters are actually easier to turn as well, making them excellent for wind turbines too :-)
The unregulated alternator from Mars! Have you ever tried phosphoric acid as an electrolyte? It reverses the rust cycle on the elctrodes (metal healing.) Di-sodium and trii-sodium phosphates (-1+) might work, but I just put naval jelly in the water.
@GameOver1260 Actually the alternator was from my friend's bodyshop. Not sure if its totally good at this time. I don't like adding chemicals to the water. Stan Meyer said he only used Tap water or Rain water. Chemicals add cost and pollute, especially in large amounts.......Like running our cars!!
The unregulated alternator from Mars! Have you ever tried phosphoric acid as an electrolyte? It reverses the rust cycle on the elctrodes (metal healing.)
Where is the powder coated electrolyser? did that one Not work out?. What amperage and voltage were used and how many LPM were produced? was the experiment a success? Also what was the goal?
@merlinspower Actually I over heated the one with candy apple red when I put to much electrolyte in it. So I powder coated it chrome this time. You can see the voltage on the Laptop's USB oscilloscope and the amp's were between .5 and 1 amp. I didn't measure the HHO or LPM because I could see it wasn't producing anything of great significance. I'm just trying to follow Stan's experiments. I'll have another video where the alternator is modified.
@dzgfdg Not if you're only pulling a few amps. Most alternators can handle 60 to 80 amps. And yes, any time you turn on your lights, radio, and turn signals they put a load on the alternator. The battery is only for starting the car.
@dzgfdg not with permanent magnet alternaters, they dont get harder to spin. no electromagnet :-)
on a standard alternater to get electrictity out, you have to feed the electromagnet.. more power into it, more power out, its very ineffecient design.. to produce more power with a permanent magnet alternater, you simply spin it faster, you always gain 40% more electricity because you don't need to put any in :-)
Also you dont really need a battery.. very helpfulltechnology yes :-)
Is that alternater rewired to produce high voltage?
people say you only want to have two volts between the plates but thats only true for brute force. stan had around 15kv and up between his electrodes. You could also try using magnetic feilds to resist amps this would be better then a resistive wire because you dont waste any energy.
@xsports49 Thanks, I didn't do anything to the alternator at this time. You are correct about Stan. Stan Started out experimenting with the alternator and moved on to other power sources. I'm just trying to follow his footsteps. I have rewired the alternator like his drawing and should be posting that video soon, but it's still low voltage for now!
I am not trying to put you down, I am just trying to help you understand. I studied Stan's work very closely. This experiment was done in his earlier projects. His process is way more complicated than the alternator set up you got this from. The efficiency of electrolysis has to do with resistance. The smaller the resistance the more efficient the electrolysis. With less resistance you will use less voltage and current.
@zgymnast Not sure what you mean by high voltage? 21 VDC isn't high voltage to me. I'm just trying to find the wave form that Stan was getting with his alternator setup. I'll be posting another video where the alternator is modified per Stan's drawing.
If you are using just 2 electrodes, meaning one positive and one negative to create electrolysis, then, 21 volts is way to high. You should only be using 2 - 2.5 volts between each cell. So yes, 21 volts is high. If you were to use that wave form with 2.2 volts or there about, then I would be impressed, but only if the yield was the same as it is with 21 volts. But it wont be, not unless you add a catalyst. Continued.............
@zgymnast I dunno why they don't look up why anything BUT DC power DOEST work will electrolylsis.. Its because the positive electrode has to stay POSITIVE.... :-) same with the negative electrode... if the changing +-+-+-+-+-+-+- <----- positive elecrode on ac power..
Electrolysis HAS to be via DC power, the resonance wave CAN be played with :-)
You can make a class A amplifier do the same little bumpy DC with the DC bias for 6 times less energy and unlimited frequency . That little diagram from Stan's coloring book is too easy to be taken seriously .
Thanks, I still need to remove the diodes and add my own. I think the alternator has a bad diode and I want to remove the internal capacitor that's removing the three phase wave form and try it again.
With tap water it will draw about 3-5 amps and produce alot more bubbles. I wanted to keep the amps down, it keeps me from burning up my coils. Way to many amps with electrolyte!!!
Stan Meyer didn't use electrolytes in his either but achieved way more HHO output.
Stan's cell getting more clearer with your presentation. You have put a lot of hardworks and dedication in your experiment. I like the way you set your laptop. I wish I could set that I too. Great job.
This is totally dipshit. It takes three phases generated inefficiently and turns it back to pulsed DC, The only people who will be impressed by that circuit diagram will be those who are unable to read it.
g7txu 3 days ago
Hi, I would like to add my 2 cents to your video and experiments. At the begining we see your motor and alternator and you showing the speed of the motor. That is what cought my attention, you might be getting different results if you run the alternator at higher speed. The commun alternator wil start to perform at 2000rpm and you have yours at 1:1 ratio on a 1750 rpm motor. He had his system running on a car engine, you may get better results you get a full output of the alternator. good luck.
stalbertjocelyn 2 weeks ago
oh shit someone went o the evil genius website and got it going nice job man I was planning on doing that but didnt have the money yet.
gggDrQuinnGGG 2 weeks ago
Nice. But I don't understand the point. You're consuming more power generating the HHO than can be had by burning it.
AZChopperCam 2 weeks ago
@AZChopperCam Correct, even using a simpler, cheaper, quieter, more efficient and more suitable power supply, there still is no golden egg.
g7txu 3 days ago
nice video.. to bad who ever filmed it doesnt know how to speak!
johnwoodykirkwood 2 weeks ago
Nice vid, you could also vary the rpm and maybe get the test done with various frequencies. What is the total power and how much hho can deliver?
nastasa1234 2 weeks ago
@nastasa1234 Yes, varying the RPM will vary the alternator output frequency. Not enough HHO to bother with measuring it. More work to do first.
bartley440 2 weeks ago
@bartley440 Are you using current created HHO or voltage frequency generated HHO?
I ready Meyers did this with frequency generated HHO...
Would you know how to make the alternator output its 12-14 volts and think the battery is charged so the current drops...?
I will be bypassing the DC converter on an alternator I have and using the straight AC signal...
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I Really Like The Video From Your Looking at the wave form generated by the car alternator to try and understand Stan Meyer's experimental process and patents on producing HHO.
cTianroy 3 weeks ago
Your Video Is Very Useful Sharing Looking at the wave form generated by the car alternator to try and understand Stan Meyer's experimental process and patents on producing HHO.
anakmudajaman 3 weeks ago
There are so many of these HHO generators.Some are installed onto vehicles claiming over a 50% reduction in fuel consumption due to the benefits of the gas mixture on the combustion process.So many differant plans available to build your own.There is a prize of 1 million $ from a fellow in Sweden for the first supplimental hydrogen generator equipt car to get a 35% reduction in fuel consumption.Someone please claim the prize...so we can see who has it figured out.Thank you.
Zoltanbod 3 months ago
Nice setup, I am surprised you get 1 amp with distilled water. If you add baking soda, it wont have a negative effect on the stainless steel or any other components, but your production will explode out of proportion :P
Don't listen to the freaks here, they know nothing because they never actively have done anything. Make sure the wiring will carry at least 40 amps no problem. You should easily get 20-30 out of that cell. When it warms up inside, it will get way more efficient too!
oBseSsIoNPC 3 months ago
and also, when the system builds pressure it is more efficient.
oBseSsIoNPC 3 months ago
I understand. Is your system still set up? I mean, do you think you can get that data for me? I just need to know the Peak-wattage and the continuous-wattage-draw. Does the alternator put a lot of drag on the motor? Thanks for your time and info.
YouXtuber2010 4 months ago
@chicksfollowme It's a cycle...HHO = H2O HHO is a gas and H2O is water. It's just how the atom's are arranged by their energy state. Energy is released when atoms combine and when atoms separate. Now you have a reason to stay awake in science class...... :0)
bartley440 4 months ago
Have you bothered to measure the Surge-Wattage and continuous wattage draw of motor? I'm curious to know how much power the motor is using given that the alternator is being ran with a load.
YouXtuber2010 4 months ago
@YouXtuber2010 My concern is not the electric motor at this time. The electric motor is just there to simulate a car's engine.
bartley440 4 months ago
@bartley440 Thanks for the upload exelent work! your 12v power supply is providing power to the alternator rotor? did you eliminate the regulator of the alternator? Also if possible could you provide a post with schematic drawing?
this has got to be one of the most simplest and working model i have seen.
HeuristicObfuscation 3 weeks ago
@HeuristicObfuscation Yes I used the PC power supply to power the rotor. I used the 5V leads but the 12 volt leads worked too on the power supply. The older Chrysler alternators (1969) had external regulators. If you look at time point 1:28 of this video you will see the schematic . The only thing I changed was I used a PC power supply and Stan had a variac AC power supply. I will post a new video using the variac to compare the wave forms of each.
bartley440 3 weeks ago
@bartley440 Thanks again for your quick response. Do you know if the powersupply is providing a rectified direct curent to the rotor or is it unipolar pulse?
in otherwords can we use a standard 12v battery instead?
HeuristicObfuscation 3 weeks ago
@HeuristicObfuscation Yes, a 12v battery would work. Stan used the Variac and in my next video I will show the waveform of both to see if it changes the waveform output from the alternator. The Variac output is a rectified AC (60hz pulsed DC) signal. The power supply is a rectified and Filtered DC signal.
bartley440 2 weeks ago
what the fuck is hho ?>
rangerclass7s 4 months ago
@rangerclass7s Also known as Brown's gas, HHO is simply a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen gas. He is using electrolysis in this video to separate the H2O of water into it's component elements. Brown's gas is highly flammable, even explosive, and should be handled with extraordinary care. It is Much safer to use DC rather than unregulated AC from the alternator, with separate electrodes collecting the hydrogen and oxygen separately.
Miata822 4 months ago
Ya, either A holes just have to much time on there hands to call bs on everything they know nothing about, or they're troll ~ ticks on the back of progress !! The latter for reality escapes them ! the man teaching is amazing!!! His other stuff - small engine fundamentals - I believe . ERS!
smartazuis 4 months ago
i love these comments on this video
irondmax 5 months ago
Dear taztaz79, why must make such a dumb comment as you just did. My company is iintegrating bigger HHO systems than anyone has ever seen in the USA. If you ever wanna learn something new, I may teach you.
sonicchill1 6 months ago
i guess you have to achieve resonance for mass production with low amps high volts using variable pulse width modulation?
commando7144 6 months ago
@commando7144 Actually Stan Meyer claims his VIC (Voltage Intensifier Circuit) was used to produce large amounts of HHO.
bartley440 6 months ago
@commando7144 check out sir hoax he has a drawing of an alternator diagram all rewired i think you will find it very intersting
commando7144 5 months ago
i hope you ppl dont think you can run this in a car. b/c it will not work his eng is runing off of ac power. wow this is a load of b/s. a alternator only puts out 12 to 18 votes dude sorry but you are full of bull shit.
301chaos 6 months ago
Thanks, it would seem that Stan's and Daniel dingle both had proven systems hat worked. looking forward to any more post you may have
Indagatoroculi 6 months ago
did you measure the gas production with a flow meeter ?
Indagatoroculi 6 months ago
@Indagatoroculi No, not making enough to bother with. I was just trying to duplicate Stan's setup.
bartley440 6 months ago
I am willing to bet anyone any amount that our cells will increase your current mpg by an average of 80% by only using the excess amperage your alternator is already putting out. Thermodynamic laws,blah, blah,blah!! I am sooo tired of all the supposed information out there that proves why it wont work. I cant think of any entity that could have soo much to fear.
sonicchill1 7 months ago
@sonicchill1 Since when does an alternator produce "excess" amperage? .. lool.. Go back to school...
taztaz79 6 months ago
I have a cell that will produce more HHO than anything that has been produced thus far. It's stable and gets more efficient with heat.
sonicchill1 7 months ago
Dear truth seeker, you wanna make a bet about producing HHO efficiently??
sonicchill1 7 months ago
@sonicchill1 Would you give a written guarantee as per your web sites claim re HHO generator, " that you can assemble and install yourself on your automobile that can increase your miles-per-gallon average by up to 25% or more". You dont even sell generators do you, You sell DVD / CD's.
truthseeka1 7 months ago
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zmwx1996 8 months ago
It wont work efficiently. Any body can make HHO but if it could be made the way these HHO freaks claim every car would have it. IT WONT WORK. At the very best to make a dollars worth of HHO will cost a dollar. More like a dollar of HHO will cost $1.50 + So whats the point.
truthseeka1 9 months ago
@truthseeka1 Yes, electrolysis is not very efficient. Stan Meyer claims he wasn't using electrolysis. I'm just trying to verify Stan's work one way or the other (Prove or Disprove it). I'm not selling anything or claiming anything, just seeking the truth ...without criticizing :0)
bartley440 9 months ago 7
@bartley440 Just because he said it wasnt electrolysis doesnt mean it wasnt electrolysis... he's a scam artist who deserved to die
Xero555000 8 months ago
@bartley440 electrolysis is more effecient, Ilookedup how much power it requires to refine 1 gallon of gasoline from oil = 6000 watts.. :-\ takes 180 watts to make a gallon of hho..you call that ineficient? No, I think you dont realize hydrogen is a better fuel, hell, only 50% of gasoline fed to a combustion engine actually ignites, the rest of the unburnt gas goes out the tailpipe... why gasoline polutes in the first place, its inefecient at combusting.
Me102288 7 months ago
@truthseeka1 Why would every car have it?
That is like saying, I can make a better hamburger than McDonald, so I'm going to start selling them and bring down Mc... see the problem in there? if you don't then you don't understand markets or how the mass introduction of abundant, efficient, and cheap products that you can make your self don't become industries.
This system is not just proven but on sale in Japan.
It makes me smile when I see innocence is still around.
Ramiromasters 8 months ago
@Ramiromasters actually, gasolone engines run on all kinds of fuels that are flameable., like gasoline, propane, natural gal.. ydrogen just happens to be the most flameable of them all, burning 9x faster thengasoline and generating 3x the force with half as much.
The technology is proven and has been for 300 years... electrolysis is not a new thing..
BMW Hydrogen 7 the same 4.6 litre v12 in the 7 series line running on 100% hydrogen from a tank filled with liquid hydrogen.
Me102288 8 months ago
@Me102288 Yea my reply was to a person who wondered "if this was true then how come don't people have them already"
Just like a child... you know they imagine a scientist working on a big altruistic lab when they make that big discovery and call up a press conference! and upon that point humanity gain new technology...
I have to bring those people back to the real world, a world full of cold of business and the filthy oil industry.
Ramiromasters 8 months ago
@Ramiromasters. Your analogies about hamburgers and scientists etc at the very least are suggestive of some sort of mental disorder. In my comment I said "it wont work EFFICIENTLY, if it could be made the way these HHO freaks claim every car would have it". I'm talking about producing HHO EFFICIENTLY. Theres no doubt that there are some impressive looking generators making HHO on youtube, However they are not efficient. Did you know BMW Hydrogen car uses approx 50Ltrs of hydrogen per 100km
truthseeka1 8 months ago
@truthseeka1 Look they sell the dam car now, ok its not my opinion. You have a problem with that then go explain those Japanese people why the laws of physics according to you don't allow that car to run.
I did one of this HHO systems my self, they don't work 1 liter per minute is not going to give you much, considering the car breads 2,000 L per minute on average.
This people who made it work, transform the water into HHO at the injection.
Ramiromasters 8 months ago
@truthseeka1 BMW Hydrogen 7 runs on hydrgen... passed 8 week test by nasa.
I have no idea what he's trying to ackomplish with this setup.. be more effecient to just pluge the pc psu into the wallplug... thats what I do, wire my lil 4" sqaure 11 plate drycell to 12 volt 30 amp line, only pulls 5 amps, yet generates 1.5 litre hho a minute, this guys getting very very little hho.. He needs a plate cell, more surfece area = more hho.
Me102288 8 months ago
@truthseeka1 or you replace the nasty alternater with a permanent magnet alternater and get 40% more electricity output to feed the ELECTROLYSIS (or Hydroxy, browns gas, HHO generator) and run the vehicle entirely on hho.
Truth is combustion engines run on combustable fuels, like gasoline, propane, natural gas, hell even methane. Think you guy should know hydrogen alone will run a combustion engine...oxygen is an accelerent...
BMW Hydrogen 7 <-- runs on 100% HYDROGEN
Me102288 8 months ago
@truthseeka1 lol funny you dont know water is free, and thats what hho comes from. You dont get it... would you rather continue buying $4 dollar a gallon gasoline, or would you like free fuel for the rest of your life...
BMW Hydrogen 7... passed 8 week test at NASA.... you can find it at the bmw website.. no its not a fuel cell. its the same internal combustion 4.6 litre v12...
we already know gasoline engines run on just hydrogen....
Me102288 8 months ago
@Me102288. Notice I said these HHO freaks in my comment, Anyway correct me if I'm wrong but the BMW Hydrogen 7 consumes approx 50 litres of Hydrogen per 100km/s. Thats HYDROGEN not hydrogen and oxygen (HHO). Just so you know its a 6 litre engine not 4.6 as noted in your comment. Nowhere in my comment am I disputing an internal combustion engine can't run on Hydrogen. My point is you cannot make hydrogen or HHO EFFICIENTLY by way of electrolysis.
truthseeka1 8 months ago
@truthseeka1 probably, but look at the size of the engine... lol.. thats like expecting a dodge hemi to get 35 miles to the gallon :-)
Anyway, 95% of all the drivers today are in little 4 cylinder cars, 1.4 to 2.6 litre .. probably use 1/5 of 50 litres/100 mile
Besides that theyre useing just hydrogen, hho is oxygen too,, :-) an accelerent to combustion... lot more bang in a combustion engine = you done need as much "fuel" :-)
Me102288 8 months ago
@truthseeka1 ok 50 litres? is 11 gallons, so your basically saying a huge v12 isn't as fuel effecient as a small one.. LoL I bet that ebgine on any fuel is going to get bad mileage, but how bad? 11 gallons in 100 kilometers is
9 miles to the gallon, which also means 1/4 the size engine (1.6 litre) will get 36 miles to the gallon.. 36 miles to a gallon... and we are making Hydrogen + Oxygen (HHO) Oxygen is an accelerent...you'd need a bit less hydrogen...
sound likes you figured it out
Me102288 7 months ago
@truthseeka1 until you relize hho does 9x the work of gasoline... its the highest octace fuel on the PLANET... you don't even need as much to run it, if you replace the normal alternater with a permanent magnet alternater you'd have 40% more electricity then the vehicle requires.. there's the power to generate the hho..
Far as not using electrolyte, well, the problem there is water is a natural resistor..
Me102288 8 months ago
@Me102288 So what your saying is you have no idea about this subject.
truthseeka1 7 months ago
@truthseeka1 LOL thats rather ignorant of you, I know gasoline is less combustable then gasoline. Why? because I've handled both. I've also built engines, so I know EXACTLY what I'm doing. I'm replacing a FLAMEABLE fuel with an EXPLOSIVE one. Understand yet? combustion engines run on propane, methane, natural gas, Methonal, because they combust aka explode in a cyclinder and push a piston with an explosion.
gallon of gas refined = 6000 watts, hho? 180 watts.
Me102288 7 months ago
@Me102288 Im more arrogant than ignorant. Especially when it comes to HHO freaks. You have deviated to what engines can run on, and permanent magnet alternators. I will say again what I said before you cannot make hydrogen or HHO EFFICIENTLY by way of electrolysis. Just so you know, combustion is a controlled burn regardless of fuel, if you start introducing explosions in engines then you risk blowing holes in pistons and blowing head gaskets etc. Detonation! (re engines) look it up.
truthseeka1 7 months ago
@truthseeka1 truth is combustion engines run on combustables, you dont get it do you,HHO is Hydrogen and Oxygen,, Oxygens an accelerent.. If you can run one on hydrogen, whitch you know works, hydrogen is more explosplosive you wouldnt need as much HHO as you would Hydrogen.As for engines, good thing about hydrogen, it doesnt predetonate and it does need to be compressed..
Lol clued in yet, burns 9x faster then gasoline. outputs the same work with less fuel..
Me102288 7 months ago
the output is right, its just your settings for frequency it divides per cell, if u change it ull notice the output waveform is similar to DC voltage I believe
Holyfrik1 9 months ago
You can test your alt with an ohm meter to make sure all 3 phases match. The alternator has an internal bridge rectifier- you might have to make a new one because they do go bad.
MightyZarkon 10 months ago
@MightyZarkon has to be DC input to electrolysis, AC your electrodes will switch polarity and you will get 0 electrolysis and 100% heat.
Any alternater for a car charges a DC battery so, the bridge rectifiers are absolutely necesary. All positive electrodes should be wires in paralel, same with negative electrode, this is to make sure all the elecrodes are at the same voltage and amperage. Its know 1.47 volts per "plate gap" is most effecient, mines 11 plate cell at 12volt, never boils
Me102288 8 months ago
Kevin West-water for fuel dot com- has a setup very similar but he rewinds his alternators first. The latest I heard was he was rewinding one for more amperage-thicker wire. Also, you need the right alternator with no limiting regulator transistors. Great work though really nice set up.
MightyZarkon 10 months ago
@MightyZarkon you need a dc output power source, thats all, permanent magnet alternators are best because standard alternaters require electricty to magnetize the spinning stator so it can ever generate electricty, bad effeciency, replace electromagnet with permanent magnets and you no longer require a battery :-)
and don't remove a regulater, its meant so the alternater doesn't overvolt and fry its coils. thick wire = more volts, thin wire = more amps..
Me102288 8 months ago
@MightyZarkon kinda waste of time, tell him to buy a permanent magnet alternater and he'll get +40% electricity from just the effeciency of pma's
since normal car alternater have an electromagnetic stator, it rerquires electricity to magnetize the "magnets"
taking power to make power was a stupid design, an very ineffecient.. wastes energy. PMA's get that 40% back by simply replacing the electromagnet with permanentt ones. :-)
Me102288 8 months ago
@Me102288 Yeah partly true but isn't the point of pulsing power to the feild coils of the alternator is that you can get the wave and frequency right, something a magnet can't do? I guess you could still add an electronic module after the alternator circuit to do what you said.
MightyZarkon 6 months ago
@MightyZarkon pulsing power into is the exact same as pulsing power out of.. ;-)
permanent magnet alternater charges battery, battery to pulsing device.... hmm, technically you would pulse less then what you'd put into the battery, sounds like an interesting test.
Me102288 6 months ago
whats powering the alternator
02rashad 1 year ago
@02rashad I use a 1/3 HP electric motor powered by 110ac. The electric motor would be the car engine if it were installed in an automobile. It's easier to test the cell this way.
bartley440 1 year ago
@02rashad the internal combustion engine spins an alternater to supply power to things like heating/air conditioning, lights, radio.... they're required of every vehicle , I'm just talking about replacing it with somthing 40% more effecient at generating electricity :-)
Me102288 8 months ago
does your wiring heats?
thata my biggest problem with hho experements
dotdot24 1 year ago
@dotdot24 No, the wires didn't heat up on this set up. This setup doesn't pull alot of amps, nor does it produce alot of HHO either!
bartley440 1 year ago
@bartley440 I have 4" sqaure drycell. 11 plates in - n n n n + n n n n - it put out 1.5 litre of hho per minute from 12volts @ 5 to 10 Amps, I bought from HHO2U.com
I use pc psu like this but its plugged into the house power, 1.47 volts per plate gap is effecient electrolysis, I notice my generator should be 14volts and notice the water is not heating up enough to create waste heat... perhaps you and me should add more electolyte ;-)
Me102288 8 months ago
Added efficiency of a permanent magnet rotor for the alternator might be a good way to up the efficiency. Great work!
WilliamTapley 1 year ago
@WilliamTapley +40% effeciency ove a standard electromagic stator alternator, theres the power to feed into a hho gen.. or 2 .. lol :-)
Me102288 8 months ago
@Me102288 Very true. But going further, why not skip the hho gen and go plasma ignition? Use an ultrasonic transducer (fogger) in water and send that into the intake of the engine and the plasma ignition will burn the vapor. It should work.
WilliamTapley 8 months ago
@WilliamTapley I'm waiting for Ironmax to do it!! He's working on it now. I don't have the time at the moment.
bartley440 8 months ago
@WilliamTapley because the fuel is the problem, not the ignition... hydrogen is like 130 octane.. compared to gasoline, normaly 89 octane.. Simple fact is you dont get your bang for the buck with gasoline.
and too think, 50 years ago gas was 35 cents a gallon.. today its closer to 400 cents a gallon... that can only mean in another 50 years, we'll be paying close to $8 a gallon. While the oil businness lines its pockets in cash...
Me102288 8 months ago
@Me102288 Actually ignition is the problem. A bigger spark does make the difference. After all, the fuel being injected is in liquid form but liquid gasoline does not burn. Only the fuel vapours. Don't get caught in the misinformation that everyone says that the intensity of the spark does not matter. It really does matter a whole lot.
WilliamTapley 8 months ago
@WilliamTapley with gasoline yes because all of the gas in an engine cylinder doesny explode.. actually I heard less the half actually explodes, but then again, gasoline is a terrible fuel and should have been replaced with hydrogen 300 years ago.
Me102288 8 months ago
@WilliamTapley I'm sorry, your right with gasoline... but hydrogen has a very low ignition point. you dont need to ungrade the ignition.. gasoline is a really ineffecient fuel yes, onlt about 30% of the gas we shovein engines burns in the first place.. Leaving all the nasty unburnt chemicals out the tail pipe :-\
Me102288 8 months ago
@WilliamTapley no I dont think you understand what I mean, hydrogen + oxygen will ignite will very small spark, all of it burns when its ingnited, you do not need a 300 amp plasma system to ignite it....
Gasoline would benifit from a "hotter" spark but you really have to know what your doing, to hot and you get pre detonation. And thats bad, you'l get backfires when pistons arent at top dead center and possible crack a piston or break a connecting rod :-(
Me102288 7 months ago
@WilliamTapley dont need it, hho's ignition temp is lower the gasoline :-) a piezo electric (bbq sparker) is more then enough to set it off..
Gasoline with plasma ignition would definately help gasoline fully combust, maybe diesel too.
Me102288 8 months ago
@Me102288 You'd be surprised at the benefits of the plasma ignition even with HHO. The problem is producing enough HHO to actually run a car without using electrolyte. Seems like only Meyer was able to get the process down to actually run a vehicle with it. Now everyone is running electrolyte, heating up the water, and steam is being sent into the engine as well as the combustible gases. The steam would benefit from the plasma ignition. Search for ultrasonic fogger in gas ;)
WilliamTapley 8 months ago
@WilliamTapley no I wouldnt, because hho has no problems igniting., It a fact the all of the hho in an engine cyclinder ignites being hho burns 9x faster then gasoline. Anybody that is generating steam is running the cell at to many volts.. effecienct electrolysis happens at 1.47 volts. I have an 11 plate sell, it should be running 14 volts (1.47voolts per electrode gap) but I'm running it at 12volts. Use Lye as electrolyte in distilled water..
Mine runs days before it needs more water :-\
Me102288 8 months ago
@Me102288 Efficient electrolysis happens at 1.47 volts? How can you not produce steam then? You're just using amps and that will just create heat. You need high voltage and low amps.
High voltage motors can run cooler than low voltage high amp motors for the same reason... I don't think your plates will last too long using lye and high amps.
WilliamTapley 8 months ago
@WilliamTapley the plates are 316L stainless, they're immune to what your thinking.. Is called grain boundary carbine precipitation.. High voltage isn't available in vehilces... your limited to 1volts. As this is all about on demand hho systems, tell me what are you going to do with your house voltage when your car is 100 miles away? Hope your not planning on storing it, cuz you only got about 30 seconds before it starts turning back to water :-\
Me102288 8 months ago
@Me102288 Uh, 316L stainless is not immune. It might be able to withstand a bit better, maybe months to a few years at best, but definitely not immune. Your right, high voltage isn't available in vehicles. I guess you haven't heard of voltage multiplier circuits. They're pretty easy to build. Meyer used a toroid for his setup. Think outside of the 'box'.
WilliamTapley 8 months ago
@WilliamTapley hmm thinging outside the box is no point, its been tested as the longest lasting material for electrolysis, they've even tried titanium and platinum, they both work about the same but cost a heck of a lot more. simple fact is its not whats outside of the box, its what ya put into it. and thats the only reason my lil 4" cube 11 plate drycell puts out more the its own dispacement, 1.5 litre's at 12volts/5 amps,
Me102288 8 months ago
@WilliamTapley uh yeah,, you know 12 volts at 1 amp is 12 watts so is 1 volt a 12 amps.... fact is your puttinthe the same ammount of power either way.
Me102288 7 months ago
@WilliamTapley without using electrolyte? not possible, water is a nattural resister.. you have to make it less resistant to get any power through it :-(
Me102288 7 months ago
@Me102288 Until you realize that anything is possible, you will remain a prisoner in your own body.
WilliamTapley 7 months ago
@WilliamTapley Your stating you can get a constant flow of hho for say, 8 hour without electricity? :-)
I know every known way of producing hydrogen, one involes electricy and is a constant
the other in through chemical reaction, which is not constant and consumes aluminium.
would you like to tell me you figured out a way to get hydroxy without using anything at a constant rate of say, I'll make it a low # for ya,,, say 1 litre a minute for 4 hours :-)
Me102288 7 months ago
@Me102288 "I know every known way of producing hydrogen, one involes electricy and is a constant"
Then why do you need me to tell you? I guess I should be asking you how to do it.
WilliamTapley 7 months ago
@WilliamTapley LOL I'm a teacher. But Ido know all the other ways involve a process that cant be mounted on a vehicle.
Electrolys is getting more effecient by people, So dont call me closed minded. Soon as it works I'm replacing all our cars gasoline tank with water tanks.
AND going off grid when generators running on hho brake the overunity law..
Laws written by humans are a flawed because humans are flawed.
Me102288 7 months ago
@Me102288 "I'm a teacher"
Sadly. The One who fashioned you from clay created laws. Funny how a simple bumble bee defies the 'laws' of physics by flying. You won't replace your gasoline tank with a water tank.
Why not go with something tangible you can do right now? Look up the pogue carburetor for 200mpg. It's not HHO and it's not overunity, but it'll save you a ton of money.
WilliamTapley 7 months ago
@WilliamTapley There's always the people who say "you cant do that" or "its impossible", but when it happens they feel silly. Where there's a will, there's a way. Who are you to say what is and isn't possible? God?
Dubz0408 7 months ago
@WilliamTapley lol a carbourater is a mechanical device. Hydrogen cumbusts 9x faster and 99% cleaner...
Gasoline is less of a fuel then hydrogen and pure oxygen combusted.
Combustion engines run on combustion engines. its a simple rule, the more explosive and effecient fuel = you need LESS of it to maintain what lesser fuels recuire more.. gasoline doesnt even explode its flameable.
Me102288 7 months ago
@Me102288 Come on. What exactly are you trying to get at? Yes a carburetor is a mechanical device, but I'm trying to explain to you that gasoline vapours burn more efficiently and can get you upwards of 200mpg if done correctly. That right there is a step in the right direction (for now) then maybe you can work on plasma spark etc.
WilliamTapley 7 months ago
@WilliamTapley the point is adding hho to any fuel makes it burn faster... ignition just ignites what your using as fuel... its not necesary because hho is already making it easier to ignite and therefore increase the comstion of any other fuel..
so using a bit of excess power off the alternator is easy..
It takes way to much power to create plasma.. Look at the microwave a grape plasma.. that spen over 18000 watts.... takes 180 watts to make a gallon of hho..t
see what I mean :-(
Me102288 6 months ago
@WilliamTapley ya, I clued in normal electromagnet stor alternaters use 40% of theyre power output just to magnetize the stator to produce electricity.. very ineffecient. I notice the permanent magnet alternaters are actually easier to turn as well, making them excellent for wind turbines too :-)
Me102288 8 months ago
ITS ALIVE ! ITS ALIVE !!!! what are you some kind of mad scientist ?
hookuspookus529 1 year ago
The unregulated alternator from Mars! Have you ever tried phosphoric acid as an electrolyte? It reverses the rust cycle on the elctrodes (metal healing.) Di-sodium and trii-sodium phosphates (-1+) might work, but I just put naval jelly in the water.
GameOver1260 1 year ago
@GameOver1260 Actually the alternator was from my friend's bodyshop. Not sure if its totally good at this time. I don't like adding chemicals to the water. Stan Meyer said he only used Tap water or Rain water. Chemicals add cost and pollute, especially in large amounts.......Like running our cars!!
bartley440 1 year ago
The unregulated alternator from Mars! Have you ever tried phosphoric acid as an electrolyte? It reverses the rust cycle on the elctrodes (metal healing.)
GameOver1260 1 year ago
The unregulated alternator from Mars!
GameOver1260 1 year ago
Where is the powder coated electrolyser? did that one Not work out?. What amperage and voltage were used and how many LPM were produced? was the experiment a success? Also what was the goal?
merlinspower 1 year ago
@merlinspower Actually I over heated the one with candy apple red when I put to much electrolyte in it. So I powder coated it chrome this time. You can see the voltage on the Laptop's USB oscilloscope and the amp's were between .5 and 1 amp. I didn't measure the HHO or LPM because I could see it wasn't producing anything of great significance. I'm just trying to follow Stan's experiments. I'll have another video where the alternator is modified.
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buchananfibbing 1 year ago
looking good!
johncarl43447 1 year ago
but the alternator is supposed to provide power to the battery, wouldnt this put a drag on the engine
dzgfdg 1 year ago
@dzgfdg Not if you're only pulling a few amps. Most alternators can handle 60 to 80 amps. And yes, any time you turn on your lights, radio, and turn signals they put a load on the alternator. The battery is only for starting the car.
bartley440 1 year ago
@dzgfdg not with permanent magnet alternaters, they dont get harder to spin. no electromagnet :-)
on a standard alternater to get electrictity out, you have to feed the electromagnet.. more power into it, more power out, its very ineffecient design.. to produce more power with a permanent magnet alternater, you simply spin it faster, you always gain 40% more electricity because you don't need to put any in :-)
Also you dont really need a battery.. very helpfulltechnology yes :-)
Me102288 8 months ago
good luck! i'm lookign forward to your next video
xsports49 1 year ago
Nice set up! one of the best
Is that alternater rewired to produce high voltage?
people say you only want to have two volts between the plates but thats only true for brute force. stan had around 15kv and up between his electrodes. You could also try using magnetic feilds to resist amps this would be better then a resistive wire because you dont waste any energy.
xsports49 1 year ago
@xsports49 Thanks, I didn't do anything to the alternator at this time. You are correct about Stan. Stan Started out experimenting with the alternator and moved on to other power sources. I'm just trying to follow his footsteps. I have rewired the alternator like his drawing and should be posting that video soon, but it's still low voltage for now!
bartley440 1 year ago
when you tighten up the alternator is causes less slipping thuss the more rpms you get
zerodegrees8 1 year ago
I am not trying to put you down, I am just trying to help you understand. I studied Stan's work very closely. This experiment was done in his earlier projects. His process is way more complicated than the alternator set up you got this from. The efficiency of electrolysis has to do with resistance. The smaller the resistance the more efficient the electrolysis. With less resistance you will use less voltage and current.
zgymnast 1 year ago
Nothing special here. The only reason this is working with no catalyst is because of the higher voltage. This is also true with Stan's set up.
zgymnast 1 year ago
@zgymnast Not sure what you mean by high voltage? 21 VDC isn't high voltage to me. I'm just trying to find the wave form that Stan was getting with his alternator setup. I'll be posting another video where the alternator is modified per Stan's drawing.
bartley440 1 year ago
@bartley440
If you are using just 2 electrodes, meaning one positive and one negative to create electrolysis, then, 21 volts is way to high. You should only be using 2 - 2.5 volts between each cell. So yes, 21 volts is high. If you were to use that wave form with 2.2 volts or there about, then I would be impressed, but only if the yield was the same as it is with 21 volts. But it wont be, not unless you add a catalyst. Continued.............
zgymnast 1 year ago
You don't even need that wave form to get the same results with that set up. Just use 21 volts. You will probably get more with straight DC.
zgymnast 1 year ago
@zgymnast I dunno why they don't look up why anything BUT DC power DOEST work will electrolylsis.. Its because the positive electrode has to stay POSITIVE.... :-) same with the negative electrode... if the changing +-+-+-+-+-+-+- <----- positive elecrode on ac power..
Electrolysis HAS to be via DC power, the resonance wave CAN be played with :-)
Me102288 8 months ago
what a set up!
Good job.............
vox1philippines 1 year ago
You can make a class A amplifier do the same little bumpy DC with the DC bias for 6 times less energy and unlimited frequency . That little diagram from Stan's coloring book is too easy to be taken seriously .
dankiewfc 2 years ago
Very nice setup, good work.
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
Thanks, I still need to remove the diodes and add my own. I think the alternator has a bad diode and I want to remove the internal capacitor that's removing the three phase wave form and try it again.
bartley440 2 years ago
Great setup, you have put a lot of work into it.
insAneTunA 2 years ago
Believe it or not, I had most of the parts laying around in my garage (except the HHO Cell). The only thing I had to buy was the belt.
bartley440 2 years ago
Very nice setup. You are reallly do very well there with no electrolite. Gary
llewgnal 2 years ago 2
With tap water it will draw about 3-5 amps and produce alot more bubbles. I wanted to keep the amps down, it keeps me from burning up my coils. Way to many amps with electrolyte!!!
Stan Meyer didn't use electrolytes in his either but achieved way more HHO output.
bartley440 2 years ago
@bartley440
Stan's cell getting more clearer with your presentation. You have put a lot of hardworks and dedication in your experiment. I like the way you set your laptop. I wish I could set that I too. Great job.
Ian
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