Volvo 850R 0-60 5.77 sec

[MultiIpodhelp]

i own a 2001 volvo s40 1.9 t i want to get a more powerful les eco turbo that will work ithis car for cheap

i need help with that please

[IvonoftheGWF]

I don't understand why volvo gets this reputation that it does, I mean has anyone ever road in one!? They are twice as fast as your ass even from factory. When I was shopping for mine, I test road with the owner of one, who was honestly a teeny bit crazy, but had a well taken care of '96 850 T5, and on this tiny backwoods stretch of road, he got that thing up to 80 no problem. He then took us up some swervy backroads and the thing handled like a race car.

Also, that is amazing scenery

[VEEZER1]

hey bud im in mesaAZ as well. two questions for you. do you still have it? and would you like to sale it?

[GlennFalconiVEVO]

Must be fun killing mustangs witought having the risk to kill yourself and have the possibility to have kids in the back and groceries =)

[TwiztedTurbo]

@GlennFalconiVEVO Yes it certainly is.Look @ some of my vids running supercharged and heads,cam,intake etc. MUSTANGS

[ZiezieK]

wow 500PS

[simonvexed]

the T5-R is underrated, much like the Lancer Evo and STi... wikipedia and do searches... 3200lbs isn't heavy for a car with 250+hp.. the Evo and STi are actually 3260lbs; nobody says those cars are heavy?? take out the spare, get a braille or another lightweight battery and take out the a/c pump and components and drop another 100lbs or so... dont sleep on a T5-R, especially a modded one

[simonvexed]

wikipedia boys...  just like the Lancer Evo and the STi, the T5-R was totally underrated by Volvo. and if you'd like to lighten up the heavy 3200lb '250hp' you can take out the spare, get a braille or another lightweight battery, and take out the a/c pump and components and shed another 100lbs! the T5-R was, is, and always will be the first and only TRUE "R" car Volvo ever made..

[pac850]

@simonvexed So the 850 R isn't a real R.....wut...

[simonvexed]

guys guys guys... the 850 T5-R is the first and last TRUE "R" car... nooo, the 850R is not more powerful. wikipedia the 850 and look under the "T5-R" section... you're relying completely on manufacturer's specs... is a Lancer EVO really only 270hp with near identical 0-60 + 1/4mi times as an STi which is 300hp with IDENTICAL weights?? the T5-R was underrated.. it's even quicker with the spare taken out, a braille lightweight battery, and the a/c pump and components removed..

[Al88CZ]

These engines are known to make more horsepower than volvo stated. And yes, it is possible to beat manufacturers 0-60 times.

[lunatic9971]

is it a manual

[SlesarjGinekolog]

BULL SHIT!

[looncraz]

@SlesarjGinekolog I had a '95 T-5R, iPD Exhaust and ECU and hit 5.3 to 60 with just a plain " just floor it and time it " launch.

I would imagine I would have hit 6.0 stock [ never tested it properly ] - and the 850R has more power than the T-5R, so 5.8 range is on the mark with a good launch, 6.0-6.2 with a normal "lazy" launch. Stock.

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Modded, they will be the same, more or less.

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It seems odd to hit <6 seconds with 240 HP; the transmissions are designed for much lower HP output.

--The loon

[looncraz]

@looncraz Of course, I should mention, that I had another 850 T-5R that would only hit 60 in about 7 seconds. And I only managed 6.2 after all upgrades.

It seems the big differences come from some 850s having their exhaust cams "improperly" adjusted from the factory, by 3 degrees, while others did not.

The only real effect of this is to move the power band and to spool the turbo a little faster.

It also results in the car 'bogging' a bit at launch speed, like this one did. But then BAM! :-)

[SlesarjGinekolog]

@looncraz

If I have correctly understood, it is 2.3 Turbo engine, or not? I have looked characteristics on the Internet: 250 Hp, 350 Nm and 6,7 sec to 100 km/h.

So this car is tuned or just BULL SHIT!)

[looncraz]

@SlesarjGinekolog 2.3 Turbo, In-Line 5 Cylinder, 240HP, 250 FT/Lb torque, expected 0-60 of about 6.5-6.8 Seconds.

Yes, those are, roughly, the specs ( from memory ).

I expected to see 6.5 seconds, but I didn't.

The R had a more aggressive profile than the T-5R, and was faster once the turbo boost was applied.

The real problem with the 850 is the gearing, you almost always spin the tires through second gear, so launch is critical.

The specs are all "lazy" launches, good launches do better.

[SlesarjGinekolog]

@looncraz

Ok, now it's clear!) But I more like Audi with their legendary Quattro!) For example RS2! Maybe soon will buy one with 400 HP!

But now I drive A4 1.8 Turbo Quattro - for my country 4weel drive is very actually, because we have real winters! This last one was very cold and very long!

[looncraz]

@SlesarjGinekolog I have the pleasure of driving a Mercedes CLS550 w/ 380 HP rather often, and I can drive like a mad-man ( and am encouraged to do so, in fact ).

That car only manages 0-60 times of 5.4, but once it is moving ... yowzers! The T-5R was tame in comparison... but the extra 100 HP sure didn't do much for the 0-60.

PS: The AUDIs are incredible machines, but I've seen way too many torn in half ( though they are plenty safe in most normal accidents ).

[SlesarjGinekolog]

@looncraz

Till 100 maybe not so big difference, but after... while T-5R will reduce acceleration, Benz will continue flying away! The same with RS2 with 400 HP: till 100 it takes around 4,5 seconds. And it has a big plus: average expense of fuel is around 12,5 liters, while (for example) m5 e39 eats 14-15 liters per 100 km and also not as fast, as RS2 is!

But about many torn in half - I saw only one and it was here on Youtube)

[gtdrummerdude]

I got 6.8 with a stopwatch from when I heard stuff rattle in the car when you dumped the brakes to when the needle hit 60 mph. Still good tho. Anything in the 6 second range is good in AZ, especially in the summer. I would like to race your car sometime just for fun. I drive an old Mustang 5.0 and I live up in north Glendale, up on Happy Valley road. Let me know if you want to race sometime.

[csbrianp850]

Thanks but I live in Mesa, and seldom get to that part of town. Right now both of my cars need turbos (they smoke real bad) and can only pull 10 lbs of boost. When they were fast I ran 14.5lbs of boost. That's roughly 30hp.

But I'll keep you in mind I'm building a Motor for the T5R that depending on boost level should make an easy 350hp. Then I'll just have to buy a bunch of transmissions because they are only good for 300hp. But I let you know.

[cxj419]

Volvos, they're boxy but they're good.

[Bocy1206]

I also have something, even if it...

already seen some 5.8at...

comes so fast??

[YS3Caero]

Did you "take off" in 2nd gear?

[csbrianp850]

No I started in first I just had the shifter in the "L" spot which holds it in that gear until I shift it. I do this because if it starts spinning the tires it will shift into second prematurely causing a bad run.

[fallenskater978]

hahhaha t-5 is not 6.4 stock and by the way an 850r if faster then an 850 t-5 or s70 and by the way s70s suck balls. I have a 1997 850r with an ipd downpipe, full catback

[volvoS70racer]

ha ha an s70r is better then all 850's why do you think they stopped making the 850 and went to the s70. look it up a 98 s70 t5 is 6.4 stock. the 1996 Volvo 850 R stock is 6.9

[TheCmac911]

they only stoped making 850s because volvo was bought out by ford then

[Cylence01]

Anything after 96 means Ford's hands have been on it....no thanks.

I'll stick with the 96 850 Turbo, slightly modded at just over 300HP the car is damn fast especially when you take into account how much those car's weigh...

[csbrianp850]

850 Sedan weight 3222, compared to M3 3400, Mustangs 3200, 350Z 3500.

[Cylence01]

Close, 3198lbs as far as I am concerned that's heavy for a 5cyl

[looncraz]

@csbrianp850 Most Volvo owners think their cars a heavy because Volvos are generally designed to feel a little heavy, to inspire a sense of safety.

It also helps that the Volvo unibody is the stiffest non-racer around, and the cabin is designed with more rigid forms.

Of course, I mean pre-softening. The S80 absolutely feels its weight, maybe even a bit lighter, thanks to the steering action.

Good example is the tight little S40 Mk-1. That car is incredible.

Bilsteins make the cars perfect.

[xslangx]

@Cylence01

Your stupid, ford didn't touch volvo till 2001.

anything under 1998 is Volvos best.

[Cylence01]

@xslangx

Sorry you FAIL

[volvoS70racer]

thats way slower than 5.7!! my t-5 stock is 6.4 no way is that in the 5s

[CTRIPTV]

I just counted and its 9 seconds in real time.

[damitzmike]

7.2 is the stock time for automatic. my 850 does it in 5.9 :P

[SmekarNGuitar]

dosnt sound do healthy that volvo lol xD

[TwiztedTurbo]

Lol.More like 7 seconds in real time.

[csbrianp850]

That's what I want everyone to think. It just makes winning that much easier.

[TwiztedTurbo]

haha sure thing buddy.whatever helps you sleep at night.

[willdog3]

turbo?!?!?!?!?!?

[Meteora4000]

volvo 4 lyf

[WEISSERZWERG]

Sounds the car is fighting not to fall in parts, iiiik iiiik iiiiiiek

[csbrianp850]

Unfortunately Volvo 850 have a terrible dashboard design where the dash sits on a shelf (so to speak) and 4 small bolts hold it in place. The dash mounts break all the time and that's what you are hearing. It's fixed now, but was that annoying.

[Meditry93]

Loving the Volvo. I aspire to own one one day. Sounds great, looks great, and has amazing performance. Wonderful car you have!

[davison1021]

ur dumb

[tyu198]

auto box ?

[csbrianp850]

Yes. Power braking to 2200 rpms. This car doesn't really spin the tires thus the good time.

[akabane1984]

Okay, now I need to ask you a few things. Obviously, the 2.4N/A can't handle any form of boost and the 2.4LPT isn't really up to snuff either. I have a project coming after the summer that is going to involve a 2.3HPT and it will be worked on slowly as I am going to rebuild it.

Are all of the auto trannies the same or do I need to fortify my abuto to accept the HPT? I'd LOVE to get my hands on a manual but I won't have time for that. I currently have a 2.4N/A GLT 855 & I REALLY want power.

[csbrianp850]

I am not sure if they are the same or not. You can call a wrecking yard and they will be able to help you there. You may have to change the wiring harness and the ECU to get the motor working at it's best.

The cams from your 20 valve 2.4 NA are larger than the turbos so use them. be careful of exhaust size too big will slow acceleration unless you have boost over 17lb. Use turbo from newer S60, and fuel regulator. Have it chipped to handle 18lbs of boost. There you have it, 300 hp.

Brian

[SleazyT32]

hey are they rwd

[akabane1984]

They are FWD.

[momodragon]

yes there is 2 different automatic trannys one for turbo and a weaker one for n/a... so might just as well swap the tranny for a manual in the same time you swap the engine ! GL with all that

[llllRYANllll]

Definitely not stock. My '96 850r runs to 5500 rpm just before it switches to second gear. this one went up to 6250 or so. bs vid. :/

[csbrianp850]

It's stock, I'm holding it in gear. Very tricky because these cars take so long to shift that I'm actually shifting it about 5000 rpms. What I do is hold the shifter in low until it hits 5000 rpms then bump it up, once it shifts into second I pull the shifter back down into low and hold it until 6000 rpm for the second to third gear shift. Try it, it works.

[05027802]

Good stuff, does seem a little fast for a standard R but I wouldn't say unobtainable in the right conditions with the right driver and car running in tip top condition. Well done

[csbrianp850]

Actually, of my 3 850's this one is the slowest. I think that's why it has a faster time to 60 mph than the others because it doesn't spin the tires as much. My chipped 850 turbo is the fastest of the 3 but spins the tire too much, but is fastest in 1/4 mile.

[xFerrari430Scuderia]

5.77 wtf. no way its stock. my brothers is boosted to 17psi and he can only get low 6. unless this guy has slicks

[csbrianp850]

The key to 0 60 times is traction. My other modified 850 turbo will whip this car in a drag race, but not to 60mph.

[cschrille1]

my does 0-60 in 3.2 sec

[csbrianp850]

No that's fast, that's the same time as a Yamaha R1 , or Suzuki GSXR 1000.

[lyndonlongden]

no front wheel drive Volvo would hit 60 in that time.... or anywhere near it!

[mickyboyvolvo]

have you seen those s60`s go?

[ledgegeg12]

Then your brother should learn how to drive, stock they did 6.0-6.2!!

[xFerrari430Scuderia]

stock is 7.2 for auto

[csbrianp850]

That would be a fast time for a non turbo 850, but a real slow time for a turbo.

The slowest time I have ever recorded was 6.45 and that was spinning the tires through first gear then hitting the rev limiter before it finally shifted.

[mickyboyvolvo]

too true my stock 850 t5-r runs under six in auto, and thats on crap aussie fuel

[mdnky]

The R models were at best 7sec 0-60 with the autos. The euro models with a stick were a bit faster, but not much -- around 6.5 sec. Those times are from C&D and Motor Trend, who have a history of beating the cars for the best possible times using professional drivers.

Original Poster: I counted right at 7 sec during the video, and I tend to count faster than real time. Regardless, nice car, but the only way to get a true time is to take it to the track.

[csbrianp850]

I've driven this car on track days on the road courses here in Phoenix, but not the drags. These cars stock ran 15 second in the 1/4 and 6.2 seconds to 60 mph. You can't really count the seconds because the car is moving before the speedo starts moving.

[hockeyjack284]

the non R t-5 volvos run a 7.1 0-60 with 18 less hp to the crank so i believe it runs sub 7

[csbrianp850]

You are correct, stock times to 60 in 1996 was 6.2 sec, and 15.2 in the 1/4 mile.

[olre2]

My Opel Omega 3.0 24v do 0-60mph on 5,8 sek

[csbrianp850]

That's fast, probably will run 14 sec in the 1/4 mile too.

[kumbus]

I gotz me a black one :D And I believe my auto is a six second car.

[lovesara850]

sounds badass for a stock one

MBC FTW, nice volvo

[F22Barrier]

is there any motor diference between the 850t5 and the wagon version? and did any of the 850's have a manual trans?

[csbrianp850]

Yes, the T5 stands for turbo 5 cylinder the 850 wagon has the non turbo motor in it and they are totally different engines. All turbo motors are the same, the only difference being the 96 and newer have larger turbos. Besides that the T5R and 850R has more boost. There are 850 turbo with 5 speeds but most are in england.

[cab1eguy]

The 850R also had stronger rods, remember :)

[csbrianp850]

Sorry, All T5 between 94 - 96 have the same motors. The only difference being 96 models year uses a different ECU and bigger turbo.

[cab1eguy]

All T5's use a TD04HL-15G turbo. The 850R uses the 16T variant of the TD04 turbo which is marginally more efficient, and has stiffer rods to handle the extra blow. At least, this is how they are in England :-)

[csbrianp850]

Last year replaced the motor in my 850R and while research information about being sure the motor I put in the car was nothing but an R motor, was told and shown that all T5 (in the States) were the same, minus the larger turbo.

[cab1eguy]

Actually I just thought, was it an auto? The 850R auto ran lower pressure, made 240BHP and I think missed out on the rod upgrade. Only the manual 850R got them along with marginally more boost to make 250BHP.

[cab1eguy]

Forget that, i can see from the video, lol!

[csbrianp850]

What with your name Cab1e guy, are you a cable guy? Just wondering.

[csbrianp850]

I'm in the cable business here in Arizona.

Brian

[csbrianp850]

You are right, the 5 speed did have more power, and because there aren't any 5 speed R's here in the states would make sense why all T5 motors are the same.

[TwiztedTurbo]

In the states only difference is ECU.Same motor same turbo.

[ViperKeeper2070]

God, I love the 850R!

[csbrianp850]

If you live in Arizona I know of 2 that are being sold for less than $2000.

Brian

[bahboy2000]

I wish i lived in Arizona right about now! lol

Over here on the south east coast, ive been trying to find something to replace my 93(yea...you can only imagine why =p) but unfortunately i dont have 4-5k to drop for a perfect condition one...I just want one that runs decent that i can blow money on =)

[petetandino]

No way will a stock R do high 5's,

not even manual R's do 5's.

Ive driven my friends remapped 855R and yes its brisk but its not a 5 second car.

Even remapped they only make about 200-210whp with the auto trans sapping the power

[autotechnica]

My 850 with a 19T and an auto did 5.6 seconds 0-60. It puts out 290WHP and 389WTRQ's. I have a hell of a lot more power, but I believe that the R stock will do mid to high 5's 0-60. My car has a lot more power, but I have no traction off the line. So this is very beliveable.

[csbrianp850]

I know all about no traction, I don't really have a problem with my R because it's so slow off the line, but my 850 turbo when running well will burn them big.

How about that big turn on your car, is it slow off the line while the boost build? I've heard that big turbos are slow off the line but make up for it shortly there after with crazy power.

[FST850]

Your R sounds healthy, what modifications have you done?

[csbrianp850]

Thank you, the car is mostly stock accept for a manual boost controller. I overheated the original engine at the track and had to replace it. This motor is pretty good and really surprised me by the time it posted. My 850 turbo walks away from it in every race they've run.

Thanks for the comment.

[petetandino]

More like 8 seconds, you start accelerating at 22/23 seconds and you pass 60 on the speedo at approx 31 seconds.

[theberengersniper]

Are you sure you're looking at the right figure on the speedometer? I'm pretty sure I counted more or less 6 seconds to pass 60.

[petetandino]

Im very sure, on the 1st run it doesnt even get over 70mph, ive driven my friends chipped 855R Auto and no way do these things hit 60 in sub 6 seconds torque converter,FWD and weight takes car of that!!

[theberengersniper]

I'm still sure I can see it going by 60 on the clock. How do we know this car's an auto? Unless you've found additional information, how do you know what modifications have been done?

Unless the auto box was specifically designed for performance starts/changes, it never would be as quick as the manual variant anyway.

[petetandino]

if you cant tell thats an Auto from that Video then i there is something wrong!

[theberengersniper]

Better make it clear I don't mean modifications to the engine, could have nice sticky tyres on.

[thexfactor101]

you're an idiot. he was brake torquing. he had his foot on the brake and then he put down some throttle, and then let go of the brake. you don't see the speedometer moving until :24 and it hits 60 at :30

[petetandino]

No i saw the speedo move before 23 seconds.

Bttom line is these things are not quick off the line, mid range yes, off the line no.

[csbrianp850]

Remember that the speedometer will not move until the car is rolling, so it you are counting from when the needle moved the car is already rolling. The other thing about the 850's speedometer is it can't keep up with the car acceleration. I found this out when drag racing it at Firebird raceway, the speedometer read 92 mph, the time slip said 98 mph.

[petetandino]

Your just confirming this is a totally inaccurate way of testing the cars acceleration.Bottom line is even UK spec Manual 850R's couldn't get near this time when new let alone an auto,

Ive currently got my friends 850R in my drive doing some work on it,lets not forget this car is remapped to 270bhp,it is not quick off the line and no way is it a 6second car,poor traction is the main thing, simply put its not an 'off the line' car,once its moving its brisk but a Euro E36 M3 would slaughter it...

[csbrianp850]

Any M3 can whip these cars, although once moving the margin is a lot closer. I agree with you, when these were new they ran 6.2 sec to 60 and 15.2 in the 1/4. I have a friend that has his T5R that really modified and his best time is 14.8 in the 1/4 mile.

Here's the kicker, I have a 94 850 Turbo chipped that's faster that my red car, not to 60, but everywhere else, it runs 14.16 in the 1/4 mile and has actually ran down E36 M3. You just can't tell. I agree with you most aren't that fast.

[hockeyjack284]

the 850 turbos are pretty fast they are just hard to modify past like 300 hp without replacing/blowing the turbo... my friend put his turbo at 19 psi with a manual boost controller and blew it...

[csbrianp850]

Without a doubt it's a 6 sec car. Buy a manual boost controller if haven't already to really increase your speed. They are $40 at 3 bar racing.

[pdmark]

so are you running a 5-speed or Auto? in the US you can only get auto.

what's the trick? rev in Neutral and drop it to 1st?

[NINETWENTYEIGHT]

If only they made these cars in awd

[csbrianp850]

You are telling me. Although, if the rev limiter would kick in about 7000 rpm instead for 6300 rpm I think it would be much quicker. It's a lot of work to get it to shift before the limiter because you have to hold it in gear longer because of the wheel spin, then pray in shifts before fuel cut. I usually shift right at 4500 rpm after the wheels stop spinning and in most cases it will still hit the rev limiter before shifting.

Brian

[HypoCoffeeLover]

dude, awesome 850R wolf in sheeps clothing<3 i soo jizzed on my comp i remember when these came out i was hooked on them stupid dad only got an 850 new insted of the R what a tard! lol

[csbrianp850]

I bought this car off the original owner who told me he paid $42,000 new for this R. That was a lot of money in 96.

Brian

[XxTabasc0xX]

That's still a lot of money lol

[VraiDiouf]

That's still alot of money lol. But you know comparing to the BMW M3 and Mercedes C36 AMG, I'd say the $42,000 was well worth it.