There is a whole load of information that HKB Black Flag Wing Chun is from many different sources beside GM Tio such as Vikoga Wing Chun, Tension forms from uploaded pictures from 5 Ancestors, Hung Fa Yi theory from books and internet.
search for vtmshaolinbull5hit and blogspot for more information.
If Sifu Sergio was in it just for the money he would have stayed within the black flag scam. He stepped out a couple of months ago after finding out the truth. All though Lin Xiang Fuk also wants to change this history by no claiming he kicked him out. At least Sifu Sergio has the courage to admit he made a mistake, respect to him!!
I train & teach Yip Man Wing Chun. I have been learning the art since 1997. I take great offence to little designer boys like Sergio, running their mouth off & showing such dis-respect. Actually, the next time you are in Canada, you come look me up. I will video tape me giving you a lesson in Respect. Talk, all you want Sergio, I will use my fists instead.
@fredmadoobie Why dont you call him up for that private lesson mate, in fact why dont challenge him directly and don't forget to bring your camera to tape the event and post the result on you tube.........
Next time you are in Holland go look him up and even when he's not arround I am sure one of his top students will give you a free trial lesson.........
Sergio Iadarola practices money making wing chun. Nothing more, nothing less. Has ANYONE ever witnessed Sergio actually seriously playing Wing Chun? Probably not, because everything is videotaped & edited, so that he looks perfect everytime, like a pair of designer jeans. Its designer wing chun, designed to rake in the money from marketing videos & now false hopes, dreams & promises.
Time to buy some new merchandise from Benny Meng boy's. Sounds like Chop Suey to me. Little bit of Moy Yat, little Tae Kwon Do ,little Hung Fa YI, now Hakka buen. May be if you didn't try to franchise People. I'm sure you figured a way to cover the HFY logo with Black Flag by now. Too bad for all your students..
hkb discredits 5 Ancestors and slanders wing chun. the history is a lie. the hkb classes are 5 ancestor and wing chun. tell a lie 1000 times and you will start believing.
@jj2714hk Not Pun Jiao Sir, it is correctly spelled Cia Fun Jiao to correct your history Sir. People should gain their own experience to find their own truth. We either create or own beliefs and visions or we help fuel someone elses beliefs and visions.
Money money money! what a cuss! I feel sorry for Sergio. People often turn to money when there spiritual life is damaged. We've all got to eat but don't fuck around with my peoples history. Enough of it has already been ruined from the cultural revolution.
Iv recently been enrolled in sifu lins' class now for about 3 months. Those of you that say its a money scheme, a fantasy, and a lie I say maybe your just afraid to admit the art YOUVE been practicing isnt as effective, or maybe you have know true knowledge of any art and your all hopped up on kung fu movies
@SuperThaniel I think you missed the point. The people here are not wound up about HKB being a great style but rather that Lin tried to re-write some kung fu kistory inorder to gain more money. I dont anyone has actually said Lin's stuff was inneffective, if anything it should be quite good as Five Ancestors is a good system ! Even Sergio said it was impressive and learning it has increased his power tremendously !
I am sad for the choice of master Sergio. I respect very much Master Sergio, but I don' t share his choice to enter the black flag wing chun. The secrets of Wing Chun do not exist ... and especially the black flag wing chun has only one secret: it is a mix of lohan kung fu and wing chun. Marvel (IP Kai Man Wing Chun lineage.)
sergio couldn't tell ngo cho kun from wc that really explains sergio's kf skill is very low. in 1994 kenneth lin was a ngo cho kun guy& got his ass kicked by a wc guy. thats why lin started studying wc & became the # 6 generation of ip man wc student. black flag wc is a made up fantasy by lin. the black flag gangster PUN JIAO who got nothing to do with wc whatsoever. PUN JIAO was a criminal (black flag bandit) wanted by chinese government.
@jj2714hk Not Pun Jiao Sir, it is correctly spelled Cia Fun Jiao to correct your history Sir. People should gain their own experience. We either create or own beliefs and visions or we help feul someone elses beliefs and visions.
@ 88hk: It is also a fact that Sifu Benny and Sifu Sergio are two of the most experienced Wing Chun practitioners and researchers - they are not stupid and cannot be easily conned by one person's story about history. How come you didn't take all the facts into consideration?
@ 88hk: It is a fact that there are thousands of people that have been practicing Hek Ki Boen Eng Chun in Indonesia since the early 1900s and in the US as well more recently. It is a fact that Hek Ki Boen Eng Chun has nothing to do with Ip Man Ving Tsun (Wing Chun) so Ip Man wouldn't know anything about it and therefore wouldn't have mentioned anything about it to his most senior students.
@ 88hk: For the benefit of the doubt, I take your words that this isn't about hate or jealousy. The fact is that you are making your conclusions without actual experience.
It is a fact that you don't know anything about Hek Ki Boen Eng Chun. It is a fact that Master Lin learned the Hek Ki Boen Eng Chun since he was 10 years old. recently.
kenneth lin had a big dream to become somebody. he mixed up ip man wc with lohan kf. called it black flag wc. the biggest problem for such claim is lin's own family tree against himself. lin was a kid, # 6 generation of student under ip man, how could lin become a black flag master? simple, made it up and created more lies & sold it to those young & stupid students. that fake museum guy, benny meng, even his own sifu moy yat would not trust him, why should anyone? lin & meng are scumbags.
@hgbwc91 This isnt hate or jelousy but his is the truth. you can not address the fact Lin learned Vikoga, that Pun Jiao learned Lo Han Kung Fu.
Tell me this why did Lin say there was a 5 flag wing chun when not even Yip Man 1st generation students that are still alive never mentioned 5 flag or red flag wing chun?
please dont throw the hate and jealousy smoke screen at the facts and my question.
Wake up. the only info on Black Flag Wing Chun is from VTM and Lin. If you look into the history of Indonesia Lin you see he has Vikoga Wing Chun and Lo Han Kung Fu mixture with black flag bandits from 1907. Its a big lie! The lie is now mixing with Hung Mun. Hung Mun is Hung Mun. Hung Mun is made up by many indiividuals from different backgrounds. Lin does not know Chinese culture, hes from Indonesia. Chinese bandits immigrated to Indonesia long time ago.
FIRST LODGE (Fukien and Kansu province), known as ‘GREEN LOTUS HALL OF PHOENIX DISTRICT’ Its regiments carried a BLACK FLAG bearing the character PIU ‘Glorious’.
SECOND (Kwantung and Kwangsi).It bore a red flag with the character ‘SAU’ – ‘AGES or LONGEVITY’.
THIRD (Yunnan and Szechuan) It bore a vermillion flag with the character HOP- ‘UNITED’.
FOURTH (Hunan and Hupei) It bore a White flag.
FIFTH (Chekiang/Kiangsi/Honan) It bore a green flag.
After the burning of the Southern Shaolin Temple, the Secret society of Heaven and Earth realizing that a series of rebellions simultaneously would have the effect of dividing the CHING army decided to divide into various parts of the country to raise recruits. However, in order not to be penetrated by spies, they created secret signs by which each group could recognize themselves as members of the rebellion.
Bla. Bla. Bla. This video deserves a flag. A red flag.
No matter where the 'truth' lies, the concept of birth sin is utterly outdated.
It leads nowhere, it ends nowhere. It is a non-argument.
And even if you did your homework - which I couldn't say and I really don't give a rats arse - you'd do well to at least make your hypotheses plausible. Your methods seem to be invalid, you offer no replicability and you act like any optical correlation proves your point. You sound like a Christian.
You mean Benny Meng, Curator of the Museum of wing chun would be lying? He already has cataloged more than 200 strains of wing chun? Before issuing an opinion wanted to study a little more.
Você quer dizer que Benny Meng, curador do museu do wing chun estaria mentindo? Ele que já catalogou mais de 200 linhagens de wing chun? Antes de emitir uma opinião procure estudar um pouco mais.
90% of martial arts 'history' is myth and marketing. Look for an art that makes sense for you and you can see is effective and who cares about secret societies and hidden manuscripts? Are we living in a movie or the real world. Train hard and trust yourself.
tio tik kwie as well as the rest of hkb 黑旗 gangsters were originally from lo-han kung fu school in indonesia, this group of hkb bastards also got their chop-sow wing chun from ip man's-x-x-x-x-> (victor leow->chung->lin->meng). and a load of made up bogus red flag wc stories by this fake museum guy meng, eventally he got caught and this is a real fuckin joke with kf people laughing around the world.
Saying Ip Man WC as Red Flag, in fact a major insult to the Ip Man lineage connecting them to 5 flag bandits, with the sole purpsoe of supporting Meng's fake museum and Lin's false claims of the Black flag 汉奸. This bullshit Black flag WC actually came from Ip Man-WSL-others-- mixed with Lo Han kung fu from Black Flag bandits gang members.吊你老母Kenneth Lin 招搖撞騙
lol, that is your research? words are empty, step to the plate and put your hands and body to the test if you think Black Flag is false, we will see what you have to say after the truth is undeniable and your mind is finally awaken.
very silly stupid and useless attack for anybody believing this crap take a look at some of the other videos online about Black Flag Wing Chun clears things up right away.
I believe that Yip Man has been discredited to the point that nothing is believable anymore, from anywhere in the line. Having trained in the Tip Man line for nearly 21 years, through the Leung Sheung branch, I never accepted the Leung Bik account, and over the past few years, in having studied the philosophy of the Yuen-Kay San line and realizing how much Yip mislead his own students, I have begun to wonder how much of that trend have passed down.
據說為了flame 和 money, 这條Kenneth Lin 出身低微, 他是Ip Man's No.6 generation student.Lin's second teacher Tio Tik Kwie 是一個 black flag member 黑旗會員,學習Lohan kung fu.呢條Lin好眉好貌生沙蚤,透過各種掩人耳目的炒作,誇大Black Flag 黑旗汉奸在社會上嘩眾取寵, Lin's black flag wing chun actually is Ip Man wing chun. and the evidence strongly against his bs 黑旗會員是现代祸国殃民帮助日军的 汉奸.骂得不够狠以史为戒吊你老母
don't try to tell people the fuel between sergio and wt camp isn't over. sergio has had a bad experience with hoffman too...this lin's bogus black flag story has many holes. ex, where did lin get his wc from? from his old website clearly pointed to victor leow/chung che man. if lin wants to change his story again, do u really think people that stupid will listen to him.
This is a hilarious joke! Sergio, what an idiot!!! Black Flag is total fabricated crap unrelated to Shaolin. Some Black Flag bandit gang member Tio Tik-Kwie was from Lo-han kung fu school. You got this fucked up Lin, a very low rank wc guy from Ip man-Wsl-.Perterson-Leow-Chung camp, wanted to change his wc identity to Black Flag. Can you imiage that Ip Man suddenly became the ancestor of Black Flag bandit WC.
How stupid this guilo Sergio? He's been fooled by 2 biggest liars Kenneth Lin, Benny Meng. LO-Han is LO-Han kung fu has nothing to do WING CHUN. Black flag gang member Tio Tik-Kwie is LO-Han guy. From Vikoga web, Kenneth Lin's Wing Chun through Victor Leow/Chung Che Man from Ip man/Sum Nung lineages, nothing to do with this BOGUS 5 flag story or shaolin. Lin just made up this black flag wc name to be somebody....
looking at the black flag website of 2005. it clearly stated that black flag gang leader tio tik-kwie was a lo-han kung fu guy (not a wc man). kenneth lin's wc came from ip man wc & sum nung wc. certainly the name of black flag wc was made up by kenneth lin, because lin mixed up ip man/sum nung wc & tio tik-kwie's lo-han kf together and called it black flag wc. it's not a shaolin wc as benny meng says. sergio, now you know the truth of black flag wc, you have been fooled by lin & meng.
LOOK DEEP IN YOURSELVES--WHAT DOES YOUR HEART TELL YOU?
We have a Man--from MAINLAND CHINA [not a martial artist]---whos GRANDFATHER WAS MURDERED BY THE BLACK FLAG THUG BASTARDS--WRITING AN ARTICLE TO EXPRESS HIS PAIN!!!
HOW CAN THIS BE REFUTED? HOW? IS HE FUCKING LYING?
BLACK FLAG LINEAGE IS A FUCKING SCAM--SO IS SERG & co. AND THE VT MUSEUM.
Wanna go to a REAL WC Museum? Go to Dr. Leung Jans [Yip Mans GRANDMASTER] house in Gulao/Kulo Villiage on the mainland!
it is fucking I_N_S_A_N_E to me that a Chinese man would *knowingly* make up a lineage based on the color "Black"! Even WORSE is the fact that he HAD to have known about the illicit nature of the Black Flag criminals responsible for supporting the JAPANESE [rememeber the nation that ATE the ATOMIC BOMB for their evil?]
The murder--the CRIME--is reprehensible--for these traitorous bastards
Yo--chek this shit out----what about "White Flag" Wing Chun! Hows *that* sound!!
That somebody is so convinced about his "truth" but doesn't show his face, says enough. PEOPLE THAT ARE AFRAID TO SHOW WHO THEY ARE HAVE A HIDDEN AGENDA AND CANN'T BE TRUSTED AT ALL. THIS VIDEO IS CRAP
This video is totally bull....! Says nothing about black flag eng chun. The people are only jealous! Very sad, that some people talking about something they didn't know and hide behind a nickname. Shame on you wcwatchdog, shame on you!!
@Endymion092 - you fool. Can you not understand what is going on here? Do you not recognize the black flag scam before your eyes? Perhaps you are not a fool, but complicit in this crime...
" moy yat sent two of his students to go all way to the vtm (benny meng's museum/storage room) to knock down the door and take back the chops." moy yat discovered that benny meng didn't have good character and could no longer be trusted with the vtm project.
The ramifications of this video are D_E_V_A_S_T_A_T_I_N_G for those motherfuckers. Good Job.
Man---and that Chinese guy sold his own people "up the river".
Thats like me ( a Black Man) going to China and naming my Style "Confederate Flag Boxing", when I know full well that THAT damn flag represented the Wealthy-filthy rich Slaveholders and supported the cruelty sufferred by my people under the Slavery institution for 400 years!
A wonderful expose of the unholy trinity of Sergio Iadarola, Benny Meng and Kenneth Lin. Sergio's inept research methods have finally been exposed as nonsense. He's only in it for the money. The bad seed Benny Meng has been ousted as the Curator of an empty and unwanted museum. Meng's in it for the money. Kenneth Lin, the 'man' who denies his own Vikoga Wing Chun past, revealed as a flat out liar. He's in it for the money. All 3 are fakes and Black Flag Wing Chun is a lie, a horrible lie.
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There is a whole load of information that HKB Black Flag Wing Chun is from many different sources beside GM Tio such as Vikoga Wing Chun, Tension forms from uploaded pictures from 5 Ancestors, Hung Fa Yi theory from books and internet.
search for vtmshaolinbull5hit and blogspot for more information.
ProfChan48hk 3 months ago
Truth always prevails, so sad money money, money!!
cornwallgeezer 4 months ago
If Sifu Sergio was in it just for the money he would have stayed within the black flag scam. He stepped out a couple of months ago after finding out the truth. All though Lin Xiang Fuk also wants to change this history by no claiming he kicked him out. At least Sifu Sergio has the courage to admit he made a mistake, respect to him!!
34johan 4 months ago
Sergio just want money anything else, he dont want to be on the wing chun way, just money way
WingChunEcuador 4 months ago 3
who cares! it is all just......
8cspohn 4 months ago
I train & teach Yip Man Wing Chun. I have been learning the art since 1997. I take great offence to little designer boys like Sergio, running their mouth off & showing such dis-respect. Actually, the next time you are in Canada, you come look me up. I will video tape me giving you a lesson in Respect. Talk, all you want Sergio, I will use my fists instead.
fredmadoobie 5 months ago 18
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Agreed.
What is Sergio but a relic hunter? I got so sick of his videos- his white ass worshipping places & objects around HK & Guangdong.
I now boycott any vid he posts & trust you will give him his humbling very soon.
DizzyDerwish 1 month ago
@fredmadoobie Why dont you call him up for that private lesson mate, in fact why dont challenge him directly and don't forget to bring your camera to tape the event and post the result on you tube.........
Next time you are in Holland go look him up and even when he's not arround I am sure one of his top students will give you a free trial lesson.........
scorpion9xxx 2 weeks ago
@scorpion9xxx oh yeeeeeaah mate, yeah - good as gold right? right as rain? what have you got to say man? seriously?!
Like i'm going to come down to their 'level' for a 'lesson'? Think again! They ain't teaching me nothing.
My response to this fuckery is a response of pure principle, whereas all you come to me with is little ego syndrome.
I say what I say out of RESPECT for my WING CHUN FOREFATHERS & out of PURE PRINCIPLE. Nothing less, nothing more. Either you get it, or you don't.
fredmadoobie 2 weeks ago
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@scorpion9xxx oh yeeeeeaah mate, yeah - good as gold right? right as rain? what have you got to say man? seriously?!
Like i'm going to come down to their 'level' for a 'lesson'? Think again! They ain't teaching me nothing.
My response to this fuckery is a response of pure principle, whereas all you come to me with is little ego syndrome.
I say what I say out of RESPECT for my WING CHUN FOREFATHERS & out of PURE PRINCIPLE. Nothing less, nothing more. Either you get it, or you don't.
fredmadoobie 2 weeks ago
Sergio Iadarola practices money making wing chun. Nothing more, nothing less. Has ANYONE ever witnessed Sergio actually seriously playing Wing Chun? Probably not, because everything is videotaped & edited, so that he looks perfect everytime, like a pair of designer jeans. Its designer wing chun, designed to rake in the money from marketing videos & now false hopes, dreams & promises.
fredmadoobie 5 months ago 9
hkb black flag is 100% genuine, attempts to discredit it are coming from business fear
badboybrendan 7 months ago
damn,i was fooled ha? why does the logo of the hkb has a mason logo? thats crazy! what striving for world domination in Wing Chun? GTFO!
MrSoprofound 8 months ago
Time to buy some new merchandise from Benny Meng boy's. Sounds like Chop Suey to me. Little bit of Moy Yat, little Tae Kwon Do ,little Hung Fa YI, now Hakka buen. May be if you didn't try to franchise People. I'm sure you figured a way to cover the HFY logo with Black Flag by now. Too bad for all your students..
Daddyo94521 10 months ago
Black flag ang Sergio WC is a joke!!! Big!!
arnelmation 11 months ago
hkb discredits 5 Ancestors and slanders wing chun. the history is a lie. the hkb classes are 5 ancestor and wing chun. tell a lie 1000 times and you will start believing.
taokum 11 months ago
ahaha...ignorants.... ahahha
wasakann 1 year ago
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@jj2714hk Not Pun Jiao Sir, it is correctly spelled Cia Fun Jiao to correct your history Sir. People should gain their own experience to find their own truth. We either create or own beliefs and visions or we help fuel someone elses beliefs and visions.
royaltybourne 1 year ago
please check this out...
HKB (Black Flag) Eng Chun Xiang Fuk Lin's multiple identities, multiple background part 1
jj2714hk 1 year ago
Money money money! what a cuss! I feel sorry for Sergio. People often turn to money when there spiritual life is damaged. We've all got to eat but don't fuck around with my peoples history. Enough of it has already been ruined from the cultural revolution.
KochunLee 1 year ago
this is very sad. if its like this then down with black flag wc.
SHAOLINDYUNA123 1 year ago
Iv recently been enrolled in sifu lins' class now for about 3 months. Those of you that say its a money scheme, a fantasy, and a lie I say maybe your just afraid to admit the art YOUVE been practicing isnt as effective, or maybe you have know true knowledge of any art and your all hopped up on kung fu movies
SuperThaniel 1 year ago
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wingchun9539 10 months ago
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wingchun9539 10 months ago
@SuperThaniel I think you missed the point. The people here are not wound up about HKB being a great style but rather that Lin tried to re-write some kung fu kistory inorder to gain more money. I dont anyone has actually said Lin's stuff was inneffective, if anything it should be quite good as Five Ancestors is a good system ! Even Sergio said it was impressive and learning it has increased his power tremendously !
kungfucritic 9 months ago
Master Sergio, the fact that you've blocked me on your channel ,because I say the truth, does not make you better than those who lie.
Marvel ( IP Kai Man lineage)
Marvel952 1 year ago
I am sad for the choice of master Sergio. I respect very much Master Sergio, but I don' t share his choice to enter the black flag wing chun. The secrets of Wing Chun do not exist ... and especially the black flag wing chun has only one secret: it is a mix of lohan kung fu and wing chun. Marvel (IP Kai Man Wing Chun lineage.)
Marvel952 1 year ago
black flag is five ancestors power. kenneth lin is a really five ancestors body
miesterster 1 year ago
fact is wingchun started from fujian yongchun white crane fist.
black flag? never heard,for a good reason. since it never existed until recently. people are not stupid. shame on you. all for the name of cash!
richardhaw 1 year ago
sergio couldn't tell ngo cho kun from wc that really explains sergio's kf skill is very low. in 1994 kenneth lin was a ngo cho kun guy& got his ass kicked by a wc guy. thats why lin started studying wc & became the # 6 generation of ip man wc student. black flag wc is a made up fantasy by lin. the black flag gangster PUN JIAO who got nothing to do with wc whatsoever. PUN JIAO was a criminal (black flag bandit) wanted by chinese government.
jj2714hk 1 year ago
@jj2714hk Not Pun Jiao Sir, it is correctly spelled Cia Fun Jiao to correct your history Sir. People should gain their own experience. We either create or own beliefs and visions or we help feul someone elses beliefs and visions.
royaltybourne 1 year ago
Starting with Fact 1: Kenneth Lin said 5 flag wing chun comes from Shaolin temple.
do you take this as fact or not?
no hate or jelousy here, hgbwc91.
ProfChan88hk 1 year ago
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eddierime 1 year ago
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eddierime 1 year ago
@ 88hk: It is also a fact that Sifu Benny and Sifu Sergio are two of the most experienced Wing Chun practitioners and researchers - they are not stupid and cannot be easily conned by one person's story about history. How come you didn't take all the facts into consideration?
hgbwc91 1 year ago
@ 88hk: It is a fact that there are thousands of people that have been practicing Hek Ki Boen Eng Chun in Indonesia since the early 1900s and in the US as well more recently. It is a fact that Hek Ki Boen Eng Chun has nothing to do with Ip Man Ving Tsun (Wing Chun) so Ip Man wouldn't know anything about it and therefore wouldn't have mentioned anything about it to his most senior students.
hgbwc91 1 year ago
@ 88hk: For the benefit of the doubt, I take your words that this isn't about hate or jealousy. The fact is that you are making your conclusions without actual experience.
It is a fact that you don't know anything about Hek Ki Boen Eng Chun. It is a fact that Master Lin learned the Hek Ki Boen Eng Chun since he was 10 years old. recently.
hgbwc91 1 year ago
kenneth lin had a big dream to become somebody. he mixed up ip man wc with lohan kf. called it black flag wc. the biggest problem for such claim is lin's own family tree against himself. lin was a kid, # 6 generation of student under ip man, how could lin become a black flag master? simple, made it up and created more lies & sold it to those young & stupid students. that fake museum guy, benny meng, even his own sifu moy yat would not trust him, why should anyone? lin & meng are scumbags.
jj2714hk 1 year ago
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eddierime 1 year ago
ProfChan88hk,
Hatred and jealousy will eat you alive from the inside.
hgbwc91 1 year ago
@hgbwc91 This isnt hate or jelousy but his is the truth. you can not address the fact Lin learned Vikoga, that Pun Jiao learned Lo Han Kung Fu.
Tell me this why did Lin say there was a 5 flag wing chun when not even Yip Man 1st generation students that are still alive never mentioned 5 flag or red flag wing chun?
please dont throw the hate and jealousy smoke screen at the facts and my question.
ProfChan88hk 1 year ago
Wake up. the only info on Black Flag Wing Chun is from VTM and Lin. If you look into the history of Indonesia Lin you see he has Vikoga Wing Chun and Lo Han Kung Fu mixture with black flag bandits from 1907. Its a big lie! The lie is now mixing with Hung Mun. Hung Mun is Hung Mun. Hung Mun is made up by many indiividuals from different backgrounds. Lin does not know Chinese culture, hes from Indonesia. Chinese bandits immigrated to Indonesia long time ago.
ProfChan88hk 1 year ago
There is so much information on the Black Flag Wing Chun out there; The HKB Eng Chun have nothing to do with gangsters.
hgbwc91 1 year ago
FIRST LODGE (Fukien and Kansu province), known as ‘GREEN LOTUS HALL OF PHOENIX DISTRICT’ Its regiments carried a BLACK FLAG bearing the character PIU ‘Glorious’.
SECOND (Kwantung and Kwangsi).It bore a red flag with the character ‘SAU’ – ‘AGES or LONGEVITY’.
THIRD (Yunnan and Szechuan) It bore a vermillion flag with the character HOP- ‘UNITED’.
FOURTH (Hunan and Hupei) It bore a White flag.
FIFTH (Chekiang/Kiangsi/Honan) It bore a green flag.
hgbwc91 1 year ago
After the burning of the Southern Shaolin Temple, the Secret society of Heaven and Earth realizing that a series of rebellions simultaneously would have the effect of dividing the CHING army decided to divide into various parts of the country to raise recruits. However, in order not to be penetrated by spies, they created secret signs by which each group could recognize themselves as members of the rebellion.
hgbwc91 1 year ago
Bla. Bla. Bla. This video deserves a flag. A red flag.
No matter where the 'truth' lies, the concept of birth sin is utterly outdated.
It leads nowhere, it ends nowhere. It is a non-argument.
And even if you did your homework - which I couldn't say and I really don't give a rats arse - you'd do well to at least make your hypotheses plausible. Your methods seem to be invalid, you offer no replicability and you act like any optical correlation proves your point. You sound like a Christian.
SiSaX5 1 year ago
You mean Benny Meng, Curator of the Museum of wing chun would be lying? He already has cataloged more than 200 strains of wing chun? Before issuing an opinion wanted to study a little more.
voyeg3r 1 year ago
Você quer dizer que Benny Meng, curador do museu do wing chun estaria mentindo? Ele que já catalogou mais de 200 linhagens de wing chun? Antes de emitir uma opinião procure estudar um pouco mais.
voyeg3r 1 year ago
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cornwallgeezer 1 year ago
agree with you 100%, TheMartialmack.
hgbwc91 1 year ago
the video was awesome. it might help to stop some morons black flag bandits making false statements thinking they can fool the world !
jj2714hk 1 year ago
90% of martial arts 'history' is myth and marketing. Look for an art that makes sense for you and you can see is effective and who cares about secret societies and hidden manuscripts? Are we living in a movie or the real world. Train hard and trust yourself.
TheMartialmack 1 year ago
People that don't know what their talking about always need a lot of words! This no info only gossip
34johan 1 year ago
tio tik kwie as well as the rest of hkb 黑旗 gangsters were originally from lo-han kung fu school in indonesia, this group of hkb bastards also got their chop-sow wing chun from ip man's-x-x-x-x-> (victor leow->chung->lin->meng). and a load of made up bogus red flag wc stories by this fake museum guy meng, eventally he got caught and this is a real fuckin joke with kf people laughing around the world.
jj2714hk 1 year ago
people could easily see why did moy yat take back the chops from the fake museum, meng definetely cannot be trusted by the wc community
jj2714hk 1 year ago
wcwatchdog and kiyou5208, eat your heart out. HKB Eng Chun members are 100x a warrior that you. You are so jealous and weak.
hgbwc91 1 year ago
Saying Ip Man WC as Red Flag, in fact a major insult to the Ip Man lineage connecting them to 5 flag bandits, with the sole purpsoe of supporting Meng's fake museum and Lin's false claims of the Black flag 汉奸. This bullshit Black flag WC actually came from Ip Man-WSL-others-- mixed with Lo Han kung fu from Black Flag bandits gang members.吊你老母Kenneth Lin 招搖撞騙
kiyou5208 1 year ago
lol, that is your research? words are empty, step to the plate and put your hands and body to the test if you think Black Flag is false, we will see what you have to say after the truth is undeniable and your mind is finally awaken.
eddierime 1 year ago
very silly stupid and useless attack for anybody believing this crap take a look at some of the other videos online about Black Flag Wing Chun clears things up right away.
wengchuntv 1 year ago
I believe that Yip Man has been discredited to the point that nothing is believable anymore, from anywhere in the line. Having trained in the Tip Man line for nearly 21 years, through the Leung Sheung branch, I never accepted the Leung Bik account, and over the past few years, in having studied the philosophy of the Yuen-Kay San line and realizing how much Yip mislead his own students, I have begun to wonder how much of that trend have passed down.
maineanthony 1 year ago
據說為了flame 和 money, 这條Kenneth Lin 出身低微, 他是Ip Man's No.6 generation student.Lin's second teacher Tio Tik Kwie 是一個 black flag member 黑旗會員,學習Lohan kung fu.呢條Lin好眉好貌生沙蚤,透過各種掩人耳目的炒作,誇大Black Flag 黑旗汉奸在社會上嘩眾取寵, Lin's black flag wing chun actually is Ip Man wing chun. and the evidence strongly against his bs 黑旗會員是现代祸国殃民帮助日军的 汉奸.骂得不够狠以史为戒吊你老母
kiyou5208 1 year ago
don't try to tell people the fuel between sergio and wt camp isn't over. sergio has had a bad experience with hoffman too...this lin's bogus black flag story has many holes. ex, where did lin get his wc from? from his old website clearly pointed to victor leow/chung che man. if lin wants to change his story again, do u really think people that stupid will listen to him.
jj2714hk 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
What a shame that we still have this type of attacks in the WC community that hide behind a internet fake name. The article attacking on HKB is fake.
1) Can’t find the source for the article
2) The Chinese language used in the article does not match any professional
style of writing
3) It doesn’t fit the writing of a Typical Chinese newspaper – the writing almost reads as if it came out of a gossip column
hgbwc91 1 year ago
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hgbwc91 1 year ago
The person who posted this, his comments are quite straight forward in
attacking this system. It doesn’t read as if he’s presenting information
objectively with the good intent of educating the public. It seems to me
that the intent is very clearly directed towards destroying the public image
of HKB. This person even took the effort to create a video clip like the
beginning of the Star Wars movies. That takes a lot of time and effort.
hgbwc91 1 year ago
This is a hilarious joke! Sergio, what an idiot!!! Black Flag is total fabricated crap unrelated to Shaolin. Some Black Flag bandit gang member Tio Tik-Kwie was from Lo-han kung fu school. You got this fucked up Lin, a very low rank wc guy from Ip man-Wsl-.Perterson-Leow-Chung camp, wanted to change his wc identity to Black Flag. Can you imiage that Ip Man suddenly became the ancestor of Black Flag bandit WC.
dosomgood 1 year ago
:) :) :)
bruceweng1 1 year ago
Benny Meng doesn't smell good either, his own teacher Moy Yat wouln't trust him. Yes, Black Flag/5 Flag is a lie.
RedbaronavmII 1 year ago
How stupid this guilo Sergio? He's been fooled by 2 biggest liars Kenneth Lin, Benny Meng. LO-Han is LO-Han kung fu has nothing to do WING CHUN. Black flag gang member Tio Tik-Kwie is LO-Han guy. From Vikoga web, Kenneth Lin's Wing Chun through Victor Leow/Chung Che Man from Ip man/Sum Nung lineages, nothing to do with this BOGUS 5 flag story or shaolin. Lin just made up this black flag wc name to be somebody....
RedbaronavmII 1 year ago
looking at the black flag website of 2005. it clearly stated that black flag gang leader tio tik-kwie was a lo-han kung fu guy (not a wc man). kenneth lin's wc came from ip man wc & sum nung wc. certainly the name of black flag wc was made up by kenneth lin, because lin mixed up ip man/sum nung wc & tio tik-kwie's lo-han kf together and called it black flag wc. it's not a shaolin wc as benny meng says. sergio, now you know the truth of black flag wc, you have been fooled by lin & meng.
jj2714hk 1 year ago
NOT TO MENTION THAT "BLACK FLAG" IS A NAME OF AMERICAN ROACH/INSECT KILLER!!!! OMFG HOW LAME LMFAO!!!
RyzER617 1 year ago
LOOK DEEP IN YOURSELVES--WHAT DOES YOUR HEART TELL YOU?
We have a Man--from MAINLAND CHINA [not a martial artist]---whos GRANDFATHER WAS MURDERED BY THE BLACK FLAG THUG BASTARDS--WRITING AN ARTICLE TO EXPRESS HIS PAIN!!!
HOW CAN THIS BE REFUTED? HOW? IS HE FUCKING LYING?
BLACK FLAG LINEAGE IS A FUCKING SCAM--SO IS SERG & co. AND THE VT MUSEUM.
Wanna go to a REAL WC Museum? Go to Dr. Leung Jans [Yip Mans GRANDMASTER] house in Gulao/Kulo Villiage on the mainland!
HAVE RESPECT!
RyzER617 1 year ago
@RyzER617
it is fucking I_N_S_A_N_E to me that a Chinese man would *knowingly* make up a lineage based on the color "Black"! Even WORSE is the fact that he HAD to have known about the illicit nature of the Black Flag criminals responsible for supporting the JAPANESE [rememeber the nation that ATE the ATOMIC BOMB for their evil?]
The murder--the CRIME--is reprehensible--for these traitorous bastards
Yo--chek this shit out----what about "White Flag" Wing Chun! Hows *that* sound!!
RyzER617 1 year ago
sorry. there's another person between victor leow & kenneth lin
correction: from vikoga wc website, victor leow->chung che man->kenneth lin.
ex: ip man->wsl->dave peterson->victor leow->chung che man->kenneth lin.
i don't know how dave peterson would react to this fact that the black flag wc grandmaster is actual his great grand student.
jj2714hk 1 year ago
go to vt4um -- other (not ip man lineage) -- help need a translation
you'll find some links about this black flag scam & the fake museum
here's what i've found about victor leow, kenneth lin learned wc from him...
ip man->chu shong tin->others->victor leow->kenneth lin
ip man->wsl->dave peterson->victor leow->kenneth lin
yks->sum nung->yuan zhu tung->victor leow->kenneth lin
"now this made up black flag wing chun..."
kenneth lin-> benny meng
kenneth lin ->sergio
jj2714hk 1 year ago
That somebody is so convinced about his "truth" but doesn't show his face, says enough. PEOPLE THAT ARE AFRAID TO SHOW WHO THEY ARE HAVE A HIDDEN AGENDA AND CANN'T BE TRUSTED AT ALL. THIS VIDEO IS CRAP
34johan 1 year ago
This video is totally bull....! Says nothing about black flag eng chun. The people are only jealous! Very sad, that some people talking about something they didn't know and hide behind a nickname. Shame on you wcwatchdog, shame on you!!
MalcolmX32 1 year ago
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Endymion092 1 year ago
@Endymion092 - you fool. Can you not understand what is going on here? Do you not recognize the black flag scam before your eyes? Perhaps you are not a fool, but complicit in this crime...
Either way you are regrettable.
jbsfan123 1 year ago
BLACK FLAG WING CHUN FOEVER!!!!!!! WOOOOO!!!
Endymion092 1 year ago
When the dogs bark in the night they sense the tiger is coming. Who are the dogs? We don't know, but we all can see the tiger!
MegaMaurik 1 year ago
THE ONLY REAL VT MUSEUM (ip man tong in china)
....benny meng’s museum/ storage room in ohio
" moy yat sent two of his students to go all way to the vtm (benny meng's museum/storage room) to knock down the door and take back the chops." moy yat discovered that benny meng didn't have good character and could no longer be trusted with the vtm project.
jj2714hk 1 year ago
The ramifications of this video are D_E_V_A_S_T_A_T_I_N_G for those motherfuckers. Good Job.
Man---and that Chinese guy sold his own people "up the river".
Thats like me ( a Black Man) going to China and naming my Style "Confederate Flag Boxing", when I know full well that THAT damn flag represented the Wealthy-filthy rich Slaveholders and supported the cruelty sufferred by my people under the Slavery institution for 400 years!
BRAVO!
RyzER617 1 year ago
@RyzER617 : Dude, your do-rag is too tight you can't think straight!
mofotox 1 year ago
@mofotox
...........I'll prefer the do-rag than a Hockey Helmet and a ride on the Short Bus >.>
RyzER617 1 year ago
A wonderful expose of the unholy trinity of Sergio Iadarola, Benny Meng and Kenneth Lin. Sergio's inept research methods have finally been exposed as nonsense. He's only in it for the money. The bad seed Benny Meng has been ousted as the Curator of an empty and unwanted museum. Meng's in it for the money. Kenneth Lin, the 'man' who denies his own Vikoga Wing Chun past, revealed as a flat out liar. He's in it for the money. All 3 are fakes and Black Flag Wing Chun is a lie, a horrible lie.
jbsfan123 1 year ago