@Valester77 are you a fag muff? how do the Leafs have more legit cups? Montreal has had WAY better dynasties, throughout the 50's,60's & 70's than the Leafs will ever had.
@Valester77 lol you're the biggest, dumbest faggot ever. guess which team has won the most cups AFTER the expansion? the HABS bitch. all Laffs fans are a bunch of sand digging towel headed Pakis.
Boston was in 1st, and almost unstoppable last year, the habs were... Well, the has were better than the leafs. You leaf fans r so full of yourselves. You have the worst team in the league, and yet all their fans talk about them like theyre the best shit ever. Last place and no 1st round pick... Burkes doing quite an amazing job... When he started, it almost looked like he was trying to sabotage them lol.
And atleast we dont burn down our arena when we lose a game. You guys get drunk and destroy the place. We have better and loyal fans. Best fans in NHL. Burke will re-build a good young team and we will beat u frenchies u wait!
You are still proving that the Habs have the dumbest fans in the nhl.... leafs suck for sure but they are building there not gonna be good for another 2 seasons. The habs are the best there gonna be for awhile now and they suck. Even if they do make the playoffs they are going nowhere, the team has no size and no strength and is completely dependent on 2 or 3 players to get the job done.
Why is it that Habs won't get better and the Leafs will? What is the reasoning? The only thing you're showing is how the Leafs have the dumbest fans in the nhl. Make one trade and they go from we're doomed to suddenly thinking they're headed towards the cup again.
Again what is your reasoning for thinking the Leafs will improve and the Habs won't?
In the end it all comes down to were you are in the standings and the contracts that you have signed to each player.
The leafs in the standings at least for the next to years is irrelevant so dont even argue that back. In the last 10 drafts name two good players that the canadiens have drafted? The habs have done all there work in the free agency and signed big contract players in the process. They are almost at the cap and look what they have to show for it, a couple of solid players.
The Habs have the most draft picks currently playing in the NHL. Some players... 2000: 13th Ron Hainsey (currently a top 4 D on ATL) 2001: 7th Mike Komisarek (leafs signed him for 5 year/4.5mil per...must be good) 71st Tomas Plekanec (top 20 in the NHL in points) 2002: 14th Chris Higgins (put up multiple 20+ goal seasons) 2003: 10th Andrei Kostitsyn (multiple 20+ goal seasons) 271st Jaro Halak (top 10 in the league in save %) 2004: 150th Mikhail Grabovski 262nd Mark Streit (AllStar 50+pt D) ...
5th Carey Price (top 20 in goalie stats in the NHL and only 22 years old, FYI Gustafson will 26 this year)
45th Guillaume Latendresse (20+ goal scoring Power Forward only 22 years old)
200th Sergei Kostitsyn (60 points in 138 games already...and yeah he's younger than pretty much all the Leafs young future)
2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 drafts are too soon to say anything as they are all 21 or younger. White, Maxwell, Pacioretty, Weber, Carle, and Subban have seen NHL time this season.
I think your missing the part were most of these draft picks have not worked out to well for the habs. I really could go on a strong rant here but its not worth it because me and you both know we will never come to an agreement on which team is better.
That has nothing to do with scouting and drafting. You're talking about development which has been lacking. But bashing the drafting and scouting is not right as they have picked pretty good talent.
I dont agree with this at all. You want solid drafting look at the red wings, blackhawks, avalanche, penguins, caps, the leafs are not bad either they just have not had the chance to prove it lately because fletcher gave up all our picks in the early to mid 2000's.
Those teams aren't relevant to this discussion though. My point is the Habs drafted better players than the Leafs in the past decade and likely will continue to do so. You're basing your argument that the Leafs have a better future on the HOPE the Leafs signings like Bozak, Hanson, and Gustafson and draft picks like Stalberg, Kulemin, Gunnerson become anomalies. Sure they have shown flashes of being good but ultimately haven't done squat even though they're already approaching the mid 20s.
The scouting in the management is awful, the habs will always in a spot that does no good for them in the playoffs and no good for them in the draft so they always have to draft around 13th-17th overall and always get shit players. PK subban is the best yet and that isn't saying much. The leafs on the other hand have done an excellent job and now have 4 players that are the future of the team under a 1 mill contract (Hanson,bozak,stalberg,gustavvson). I could say a lot more...
You can't say much more at all. Leafs struggle to draft NHL talent yet alone good players. Hanson, Bosak, and Gustafson as UFA signings. They're also 23+ years old. Their cap hits aren't under a million because of the bonuses Burke had to give them. FYI Beauch, Finger, Komi all UFA signings too. Leafs have as much cap space as the Habs do next season, about 13 million. The difference is Habs have less players to re-sign. You guys don't even have 1st or 2nd rd picks the next couple drafts.
I have also told you the relevance of there next two years of drafting. The leafs have solid amounts drafted players playing in the nhl right now, but its irrelevant because what matters is how it works out for them.
And I have shown u Habs have more young drafted players on their team. Most of the guys you're talking about aren't even Leafs draftees. Most of the Leafs future is already in the NHL right now and haven't done anything better than the habs youth. What has Stalberg, Bozak, Hanson, Gustafsson, Schenn, Kulemin, Gunnarsson, etc done to better than Andrei and Sergei Kostitsyn, Pouliot, Price, Halak, Weber, Subban, Pacioretty, White, etc?
@TheLeafs1Fan You're right. Fans at the ACC all wear suits and ties and make NO NOISE whatsoever. They are too busy sitting in the platinum lounges eating and drinking instead of watching the game.
More loyal fans? Or more stupid?
And for the record the "fans" that burned those cop cars weren't fans they were stupid idiots that were drunk and they liked the Canadiens.
Die hard Habs fans are 10x more passionate than ANY Leaf fan in the ACC.
You habs fans think ur soo smart. We might not of made it to the playoffs but everytime u guys make it you lose 1st round. lost 4-0 series against boston last year. Thats worst than not making it to playoffs.
No we don't we lose first round (except last year) usually second you fucking retard. And thats some good logic you got there. You'd rather you're shitty team not make the playoffs then have a team talented enough to make them? And you leafs fans try to steal the habs fans title of best fans in the league you should be ashamed. Remember Leafs, suck Argos, suck the Raptors suck... shit Toronto just flat out sucks big hairy donkey balls.
lets settle this here 24 cups > 13 Cups? 10 since toronto won their last one
HabsPens2931 5 months ago
lol... The leafs have more legit cups than Montreal so i would shut your mouth you stupid French fucks. :)
Valester77 6 months ago
@Valester77 are you a fag muff? how do the Leafs have more legit cups? Montreal has had WAY better dynasties, throughout the 50's,60's & 70's than the Leafs will ever had.
TLFPRHCP 4 months ago
@Valester77 lol you're the biggest, dumbest faggot ever. guess which team has won the most cups AFTER the expansion? the HABS bitch. all Laffs fans are a bunch of sand digging towel headed Pakis.
ghostsintheforum 4 months ago
habs > leafs
end of discussion.
derhalofanatic 6 months ago 2
Their dead last in the conference and 2nd last overall. Dont even try to defend them cuz your just not gonna win
hatecrew333 2 years ago
I hope the struggling phil kessel was worth it.
hatecrew333 2 years ago
@theleafs1fan.
Boston was in 1st, and almost unstoppable last year, the habs were... Well, the has were better than the leafs. You leaf fans r so full of yourselves. You have the worst team in the league, and yet all their fans talk about them like theyre the best shit ever. Last place and no 1st round pick... Burkes doing quite an amazing job... When he started, it almost looked like he was trying to sabotage them lol.
hatecrew333 2 years ago
Leafs haven't been last since their 7 game losing streak at the beginning of the year..
Fifa09Wii 2 years ago
Because no die hard Leafs fan can AFFORD tickets to Leafs games.
TheHockeyCentral 2 years ago
And atleast we dont burn down our arena when we lose a game. You guys get drunk and destroy the place. We have better and loyal fans. Best fans in NHL. Burke will re-build a good young team and we will beat u frenchies u wait!
TheLeafs1Fan 2 years ago
Bell centre was never burnt down. Are you referring to the gang that used the crowd from the Bell Centre to burn police cars?
corunguneee 2 years ago
You are still proving that the Habs have the dumbest fans in the nhl.... leafs suck for sure but they are building there not gonna be good for another 2 seasons. The habs are the best there gonna be for awhile now and they suck. Even if they do make the playoffs they are going nowhere, the team has no size and no strength and is completely dependent on 2 or 3 players to get the job done.
Flawless0straint 1 year ago
Why is it that Habs won't get better and the Leafs will? What is the reasoning? The only thing you're showing is how the Leafs have the dumbest fans in the nhl. Make one trade and they go from we're doomed to suddenly thinking they're headed towards the cup again.
Again what is your reasoning for thinking the Leafs will improve and the Habs won't?
corunguneee 1 year ago
In the end it all comes down to were you are in the standings and the contracts that you have signed to each player.
The leafs in the standings at least for the next to years is irrelevant so dont even argue that back. In the last 10 drafts name two good players that the canadiens have drafted? The habs have done all there work in the free agency and signed big contract players in the process. They are almost at the cap and look what they have to show for it, a couple of solid players.
Flawless0straint 1 year ago
corunguneee 1 year ago
2005:
5th Carey Price (top 20 in goalie stats in the NHL and only 22 years old, FYI Gustafson will 26 this year)
45th Guillaume Latendresse (20+ goal scoring Power Forward only 22 years old)
200th Sergei Kostitsyn (60 points in 138 games already...and yeah he's younger than pretty much all the Leafs young future)
2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 drafts are too soon to say anything as they are all 21 or younger. White, Maxwell, Pacioretty, Weber, Carle, and Subban have seen NHL time this season.
corunguneee 1 year ago
I think your missing the part were most of these draft picks have not worked out to well for the habs. I really could go on a strong rant here but its not worth it because me and you both know we will never come to an agreement on which team is better.
Flawless0straint 1 year ago
That has nothing to do with scouting and drafting. You're talking about development which has been lacking. But bashing the drafting and scouting is not right as they have picked pretty good talent.
corunguneee 1 year ago
I dont agree with this at all. You want solid drafting look at the red wings, blackhawks, avalanche, penguins, caps, the leafs are not bad either they just have not had the chance to prove it lately because fletcher gave up all our picks in the early to mid 2000's.
Flawless0straint 1 year ago
Those teams aren't relevant to this discussion though. My point is the Habs drafted better players than the Leafs in the past decade and likely will continue to do so. You're basing your argument that the Leafs have a better future on the HOPE the Leafs signings like Bozak, Hanson, and Gustafson and draft picks like Stalberg, Kulemin, Gunnerson become anomalies. Sure they have shown flashes of being good but ultimately haven't done squat even though they're already approaching the mid 20s.
corunguneee 1 year ago
The scouting in the management is awful, the habs will always in a spot that does no good for them in the playoffs and no good for them in the draft so they always have to draft around 13th-17th overall and always get shit players. PK subban is the best yet and that isn't saying much. The leafs on the other hand have done an excellent job and now have 4 players that are the future of the team under a 1 mill contract (Hanson,bozak,stalberg,gustavvson). I could say a lot more...
Flawless0straint 1 year ago
You can't say much more at all. Leafs struggle to draft NHL talent yet alone good players. Hanson, Bosak, and Gustafson as UFA signings. They're also 23+ years old. Their cap hits aren't under a million because of the bonuses Burke had to give them. FYI Beauch, Finger, Komi all UFA signings too. Leafs have as much cap space as the Habs do next season, about 13 million. The difference is Habs have less players to re-sign. You guys don't even have 1st or 2nd rd picks the next couple drafts.
corunguneee 1 year ago
I have also told you the relevance of there next two years of drafting. The leafs have solid amounts drafted players playing in the nhl right now, but its irrelevant because what matters is how it works out for them.
Flawless0straint 1 year ago
And I have shown u Habs have more young drafted players on their team. Most of the guys you're talking about aren't even Leafs draftees. Most of the Leafs future is already in the NHL right now and haven't done anything better than the habs youth. What has Stalberg, Bozak, Hanson, Gustafsson, Schenn, Kulemin, Gunnarsson, etc done to better than Andrei and Sergei Kostitsyn, Pouliot, Price, Halak, Weber, Subban, Pacioretty, White, etc?
corunguneee 1 year ago
@TheLeafs1Fan You're right. Fans at the ACC all wear suits and ties and make NO NOISE whatsoever. They are too busy sitting in the platinum lounges eating and drinking instead of watching the game.
More loyal fans? Or more stupid?
And for the record the "fans" that burned those cop cars weren't fans they were stupid idiots that were drunk and they liked the Canadiens.
Die hard Habs fans are 10x more passionate than ANY Leaf fan in the ACC.
Why?
TheHockeyCentral 2 years ago
You habs fans think ur soo smart. We might not of made it to the playoffs but everytime u guys make it you lose 1st round. lost 4-0 series against boston last year. Thats worst than not making it to playoffs.
TheLeafs1Fan 2 years ago
nah, i rather see my team play well for an entire season and suck in the playoffs(with half out key players injured) than suck an entire year.
corunguneee 2 years ago
No we don't we lose first round (except last year) usually second you fucking retard. And thats some good logic you got there. You'd rather you're shitty team not make the playoffs then have a team talented enough to make them? And you leafs fans try to steal the habs fans title of best fans in the league you should be ashamed. Remember Leafs, suck Argos, suck the Raptors suck... shit Toronto just flat out sucks big hairy donkey balls.
kenwood159 2 years ago
not really actually... I prefer to make the playoff and give experience to my players than to finish last in the league.. if you know what i mean
Olliloop 1 year ago
w.e sjs ftw
cooljudedj 2 years ago
Cammalleri and Gorges in better time...
JJJJNobody 2 years ago
mmm 0-5-1 thats the worst leafs start.. and how many years with no cup? 41? 42? yeah see-you in playof- oh wait nvm..
Aridi03 2 years ago 10
leafs fans right? ..hmm try to make the playoff first and you can talk ok :)
deathnotefan18 2 years ago 6
Leafs fan or not - the Habs didn't exactly light it up in the post-season in 2009...
Keoughan 2 years ago
We have been getting blown out at GM place for the past 5 years for some reason. Let's see what happens when they come to our rink. =P
corunguneee 2 years ago
vs vancouver tonight i predict cammalleri score and ak 46 score too :D
deathnotefan18 2 years ago