@pbunyon2002 Congrats to you. Are you under USFS or a private contractor? I am working on my B Fallers cert and hope to take my B fallers final field class in a few weeks. I'm Asst Chief on a small rural department and we face a lot of Urban interface threats with wildland fires. I enjoy felling a lot and cut a good bit of standing dead timber for firewood that I sell on the side. Last year my brother and I cut, split and delivered well over 20 full cords of dead standing Larch.
@ramdslpwr The job up in Kalispell is for a contractor. When forest fire goes through some larger timber they have to hire in professionals to cut "hazzard" trees which are still burning much of the time. We mainly work on "mop up" crews. The contracts run in three year intervals and this is the first for this cycle. I am in TN but will take a plane or even drive up with enough time. Main requirement to get this job is you prove 3000 hours falling trees. I have about 20,000.
Nothing like eastern logging?? Hey man, there are many crews that do it just like that right here. Several outfits use exactly those machines here in Tennessee and Alabama. That Timbco buncher was designed and purpose built in the east for "eastern" logging operations. That Cat skidder was built in the east. The timber I cut would absolutely destroy those processors you see in this vid anyways. They are cutting very soft and easy to process timber as do some operations here.
@pbunyon2002 I admit my exposure to logging was limited at the time I took this video. My reference to "Eastern Logging" was pointed at upstate NY where I lived at the time. There 95% of the logging we saw was oak, maple, hickory etc hardwoods and were all felled and length cut by hand and cable skidded out with small machines. Almost all logging operations are selective cutting and very low impact approach to the countryside. I know landowners that only allowed skidding by dozer.
@ramdslpwr Also check out the vid "Southern Logging Huge Poplar". I dunno if you got that vid response but I cut that tree and a bunch more like it just Friday, June 10, 2011.
@veganjack Out here there are millions and millions of acres going up in smoke every fire season because they are not touched by logging. The logging varies greatly by lot. Some lots like this one have very little good heavy timber and are clear cut and reseeded while others with more heavy timber are selectively cut. The logging process out here is very closely monitored by the USFS
@veganjack Responsible companies decide how to cut based on the lay of the land, the density and health of the trees, and other conditions. Montana is suffering from an epidemic of pine beetle infestation. Thousands of standing trees are dead. There is no choice but to cut them down, unless you want to deal with rampant forest fires. Proper thinning reduces stress on individual trees, helps prevent bug activity and allows room for animals to forage. For more, look up King Mountain Forestry.
@veganjack Responsible companies decide how to cut based on the lay of the land, the density and health of the trees, and other conditions. Montana is suffering from an epidemic of pine beetle infestation. Thousands of standing trees are dead. There is no choice but to cut them down, unless you want to deal with rampant forest fires. Proper thinning reduces stress on individual trees, helps prevent bug activity and allows room for animals to forage. For more, look up King Mountain Forestry.
@reptile411 Yeah big time man! i drove skidder for awhile and after a few months it got a little old and lost its edge but now i'd love to have it back! you can definitely stack up the hours.
Waste? What? No logger can afford any waste at all. Tell me, what other industrial business can you get into that you invest a half million dollars in order to earn peanuts?
Goatmen, I have to disagree. We have very little waste utilizing a variety of processors. We hand process anything that our mechanized processors can't handle, which is maybe 3 to 5 percent of our cut volume. Everything now is about optimization as margins are so tight. If we leave any merchantable timber behind, we pay a huge waste assesment penalty. Anyway, I do respect your opinion although I disagree you.
Good footage! Love the grapple skidder, they work well on that small wood. But, I have to say I don't care for the processor. Technology is unavoidable, however that one machine took men out of the woods... Sad, but true! WT
Doubtful....computer's and other machines build those heads. We're talking about woodsmen that lost their jobs due to mechanized logging. Plus, the amount of wood lost from processors is unreal because they can only take certain sizes of logs and the rest ends up in a pile. Check out some of our burn videos to see one go up in flames. Good chatting with you! WT
@goatmen I know you posted that years ago on the montana logging job learn the facts. There is virtualy no waste at all with processors. We take everything down to a 2inch top. The brush is put in piles then a grinder comes in grinds the brush up and is sent for hog fuel
Taking the men out of the woods makes them a lot safer. More boots on the ground mean a FAR greater risk. Also, much higher production, and you still employ a guy running it.
Since when has logging ever been safe? My point is just because you have a guy in a machine doesn't always mean he's a logger. Most, may not even know how to hook a log, physically cut down a tree or do anything that has been past down through generations of woodsmen. Men, blood , sweat and tears founded our timber industry.
nope different guys.......same machines tho haha
skifreak243 3 months ago
We logged up in kalispell a while back, we were loggers in Laurel but moved to oregon
oregonkid911 7 months ago
Oh yeah, my other job is fireline faller for the Kalispell dispatch whenever fires get going up there. So I get to be on the job out there too.
pbunyon2002 8 months ago
@pbunyon2002 Congrats to you. Are you under USFS or a private contractor? I am working on my B Fallers cert and hope to take my B fallers final field class in a few weeks. I'm Asst Chief on a small rural department and we face a lot of Urban interface threats with wildland fires. I enjoy felling a lot and cut a good bit of standing dead timber for firewood that I sell on the side. Last year my brother and I cut, split and delivered well over 20 full cords of dead standing Larch.
ramdslpwr 8 months ago
@ramdslpwr The job up in Kalispell is for a contractor. When forest fire goes through some larger timber they have to hire in professionals to cut "hazzard" trees which are still burning much of the time. We mainly work on "mop up" crews. The contracts run in three year intervals and this is the first for this cycle. I am in TN but will take a plane or even drive up with enough time. Main requirement to get this job is you prove 3000 hours falling trees. I have about 20,000.
pbunyon2002 8 months ago
Nothing like eastern logging?? Hey man, there are many crews that do it just like that right here. Several outfits use exactly those machines here in Tennessee and Alabama. That Timbco buncher was designed and purpose built in the east for "eastern" logging operations. That Cat skidder was built in the east. The timber I cut would absolutely destroy those processors you see in this vid anyways. They are cutting very soft and easy to process timber as do some operations here.
pbunyon2002 8 months ago
@pbunyon2002 I admit my exposure to logging was limited at the time I took this video. My reference to "Eastern Logging" was pointed at upstate NY where I lived at the time. There 95% of the logging we saw was oak, maple, hickory etc hardwoods and were all felled and length cut by hand and cable skidded out with small machines. Almost all logging operations are selective cutting and very low impact approach to the countryside. I know landowners that only allowed skidding by dozer.
ramdslpwr 8 months ago
@ramdslpwr Also check out the vid "Southern Logging Huge Poplar". I dunno if you got that vid response but I cut that tree and a bunch more like it just Friday, June 10, 2011.
pbunyon2002 8 months ago
Were are you guys from in Montana?
oregonkid911 9 months ago
@oregonkid911 Northwest above Kalispell
ramdslpwr 9 months ago
@ramdslpwr where was this video taken? I think i know the crew
skifreak243 3 months ago
@skifreak243 Northwest Lincoln County. Up close to the Yaak..
ramdslpwr 3 months ago
I certainly wish they were leaving more trees standing and doing more "selective" cutting.
veganjack 10 months ago
@veganjack Out here there are millions and millions of acres going up in smoke every fire season because they are not touched by logging. The logging varies greatly by lot. Some lots like this one have very little good heavy timber and are clear cut and reseeded while others with more heavy timber are selectively cut. The logging process out here is very closely monitored by the USFS
ramdslpwr 10 months ago
@veganjack Responsible companies decide how to cut based on the lay of the land, the density and health of the trees, and other conditions. Montana is suffering from an epidemic of pine beetle infestation. Thousands of standing trees are dead. There is no choice but to cut them down, unless you want to deal with rampant forest fires. Proper thinning reduces stress on individual trees, helps prevent bug activity and allows room for animals to forage. For more, look up King Mountain Forestry.
designmissoula 9 months ago
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@veganjack Responsible companies decide how to cut based on the lay of the land, the density and health of the trees, and other conditions. Montana is suffering from an epidemic of pine beetle infestation. Thousands of standing trees are dead. There is no choice but to cut them down, unless you want to deal with rampant forest fires. Proper thinning reduces stress on individual trees, helps prevent bug activity and allows room for animals to forage. For more, look up King Mountain Forestry.
designmissoula 9 months ago
i'll bet that skidder is a cold bitch about this time of year ;)
jacktheripped 1 year ago
Do they call driving that skidder a job? That would be awesome. I would work 24-7.
reptile411 1 year ago
@reptile411 Yeah big time man! i drove skidder for awhile and after a few months it got a little old and lost its edge but now i'd love to have it back! you can definitely stack up the hours.
tytnjen 1 year ago
what part of montana was this.
tylerc1992charlo 1 year ago
Waste? What? No logger can afford any waste at all. Tell me, what other industrial business can you get into that you invest a half million dollars in order to earn peanuts?
65crewcabpw 2 years ago
Goatmen, I have to disagree. We have very little waste utilizing a variety of processors. We hand process anything that our mechanized processors can't handle, which is maybe 3 to 5 percent of our cut volume. Everything now is about optimization as margins are so tight. If we leave any merchantable timber behind, we pay a huge waste assesment penalty. Anyway, I do respect your opinion although I disagree you.
realfacts 3 years ago 3
Great video, I'll have to show my husband when he gets back from camp :)
kansasa1 4 years ago
Good footage! Love the grapple skidder, they work well on that small wood. But, I have to say I don't care for the processor. Technology is unavoidable, however that one machine took men out of the woods... Sad, but true! WT
goatmen 4 years ago
True, but it created a lot of jobs manufacturing those heads.
ramdslpwr 4 years ago
Doubtful....computer's and other machines build those heads. We're talking about woodsmen that lost their jobs due to mechanized logging. Plus, the amount of wood lost from processors is unreal because they can only take certain sizes of logs and the rest ends up in a pile. Check out some of our burn videos to see one go up in flames. Good chatting with you! WT
goatmen 4 years ago
@goatmen I know you posted that years ago on the montana logging job learn the facts. There is virtualy no waste at all with processors. We take everything down to a 2inch top. The brush is put in piles then a grinder comes in grinds the brush up and is sent for hog fuel
idahologger25 1 year ago
need a procceser or loader runner cause im gunna be in billings for 1 week
jackingoffdawg 3 years ago
or buncher operater i work for dilley and soloman in forks wa
jackingoffdawg 3 years ago
Taking the men out of the woods makes them a lot safer. More boots on the ground mean a FAR greater risk. Also, much higher production, and you still employ a guy running it.
FierceAllegaince 3 years ago
Since when has logging ever been safe? My point is just because you have a guy in a machine doesn't always mean he's a logger. Most, may not even know how to hook a log, physically cut down a tree or do anything that has been past down through generations of woodsmen. Men, blood , sweat and tears founded our timber industry.
goatmen 3 years ago 3
the logging industry is more dangerous then ever with high tech equipment its just we dont allow it to be dangerous
carnigourousplotting 1 year ago
what brand proccessor head is that? looks like it works well
RStabbin 4 years ago
I actually do'nt know, I was just videoing the logging site and providing some equipment footage for my own interest.
ramdslpwr 4 years ago
looks almost like a waratah head.
mainetrucker 4 years ago
Its a pierce head. I believe waratah bought pierce out sometime back.
mtnrider406 3 years ago