What if we passed a law that fixes all congresspeople's pay each year to be the average income of their immediate constituents for the year prior and all senator's pay to the average of income in their State of the year prior? That would both lower the deficit AND give them great incentive to raise the standard of living across the us.
@savageecho Since many of them were wealthy before they get into congress (and even wealthier after when they become lobbyists--why don't we take money from their personal holdings when the standard of living doesn't increase?
@BottleConcreteBlond NO, no no no no. That is called theft. Some of them earned their wealth, some got it through crony capitalism and some were born into it. These will not go away returning a wrong for a wrong will not make it right. I simply propose that we head down the road that leads to less crony capitalism by eliminating the 'political class' that we have developed.
@luvcheney1 Ummmm, look around. We have the best sanitation and waste management system in the world. Regulations on meat and water have raised the standard significantly. Building codes make buildings safer. Employment regulations save lives. Not to mention police and fire protection. Yes, gov't can raise living standards, it can also fail to do so as it is made up of people.
@savageecho Ummmmmm, look around. All the things you mentioned cost money. The Govt didnt create the money that it used to do those things, the private sector did. Without enough wealth creation to pay for those things, they wouldnt exist. In fact, until the US DID become wealthy enough, they didnt, Wealth must exist BEFORE it can be spent. 3rd world nations, with just enough to eat alone, have no way for Govt to "mandate" out of thin air nice working conditions, with 10 min breaks.
@luvcheney1 Of course they cost money and I'll gladly pay my taxes to have these things. Gov't has never created wealth, gov't only cost money (including gov't jobs). As Diamond points out, all gov't are kleptocracies. What makes them good or bad kleptocracies is how they spend there stolen (taxed) wealth. It can raise living standards but it must also incourage private growth and it must do these simultaniously. I just dont think they should overreach in some of the ways they have.
@savageecho Many of the things you say you want I agree we need them. The difference is that Govt involvement is too much. Local govts can easily hire private fire fighters, even police. Local govts being bankrupted today by pensions and benefits at way over market.. Workplace safety from fear of lawsuits, not regulations. Waste can easily be private. Even if case made for Govt funding, employees can be of private corps, contracted by govt.
@luvcheney1 I agree that Gov't too much at times. I have to point out though that local gov'ts do hire their firefighters and police and we all pay local taxes to support that. The typical overreach in all levels of gov't is a big problem. "employees can be of private corps, contracted by govt." is still the same as gov't employees from a fiscal perspective, they cost taxpayer money. The only way out of debt is to cut extra spending and increase income, for gov't this means reduction AND taxes.
@savageecho I suggest local govts hiring private contractors for police and fire as a less threatening free market compromise. The advantage is even though publically paid for, there is no political vote getting motive to overpay these Union voting blocks, to get elected. Private firms would pay wages and benefits based on market values, not pay them off to support politicians who "take care of unions".
@luvcheney1 There is no such thing as a "free market" and never has been. It would be ugly if there was, just as it is ugly when there is too much regulation or if regulation is focused in the wrong places. I think what you are referring to is crony capitalism which is why I'm with Twain, "Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason."
@savageecho In 1910, total govt spending at all levels was 7% of GDP, and today, at the Fed, State, local levels it is 40%. So, then, private sector had 93% of GDP, today it is 60%. Relative, it was more free market. Not having police, firefighters, and teachers being employees of the govt is closer to free market. I can say I`m on a diet, but that shouldnt HAVE to mean I never eat 8 potato chips.
@luvcheney1 OH, I agree, our spending is madness. Yes, it was CLOSER to free market but it was NOT free market. Our spending needs to be reigned in significantly but what you are suggesting is still gov't cost. If teachers, firefighters, cops, military are all independent contractors but that contract is paid by tax dollars then it is still gov't spending and the private sector will not pick up those costs voluntarily.
@savageecho Most people agree law and order is a govt function. Most people agree most young families could never pay 100% of the education of their kids, and most agree it is in everyone`s benefit to educate. However, pay and benefits, pensions, etc far over free market prices are unsustainable, and that is why privatization would meet both points of view.
@luvcheney1 I don't think that privatization in some of these fields is a good idea. privatization has the drive for profit built in, which is not inherantly bad, but can cause problems. What drives efficiency is competition, not privatiaztion directly. I suggest we make some of the gov't services competition driven against other gov't services. I do think some parts should be privatized but not schools, cops, fire fighters or military.
@savageecho K-12 govt, union monopoly rated #34 in World, in math, science, far below Japan, Singapore, our competitors. US cant compete screwing bumpers on Chevy`s, and doesnt have the educated people to compete in tech either. We will fall way behind, its a done deal already. Cops, firefighters bankrupting municipalities already, retiring at 55, while private sector gets little benefits, and work past 65 to support the govt workers who get full pa, benefits, take another job too.
@luvcheney1 Agreed to the points above but how, exactly, is privatization going to fix this? One, if cops/firefighters/teacher are privatized then they will have to follow the corporate agenda of whoever is footing the bill, bad juju man. We need to address the abuses in gov't and privatize non-civil servant jobs, and make the civil servant jobs compete, union or not. Look at Sweeden, two PUBLIC school systems that compete and they get results.
@savageecho You really think that fire fighting is so complex, more so than inventing IPOD`s, designing cars, planes, that Govt HAS to do it? Cops? Schools? The corporations providing the services would HAVE to please the govt locality contracting to them. Local govt would also want to stay in office, and would be responsive to the public as well in quality of services. The public is stupid, regarding benefits, market wages, etc. Uninformed.
@luvcheney1 It has nothing to do with complexity. It has everything to do with public service. Yes the public is largely uninformed but private companies are prone to greed, control and monopoly. I think that private contracting those services is silly because a) it still costs tax dollars and b) is too easy for crony capitalism to take hold. The private company only has to please the POLITICIAN not the people. See "Beer Wars" for an example of private business and gov't mixing.
@savageecho Private companies are prone to making a profit (instead of HUGE unfunded liabilities Fed, State, local govts do), bankrupting themselves, at taxpayers expense. Now, in order to pay pensions, benefits for retired cops, teachers, and firefighters, they cut existing police, firefighting, and schools. Now, taxpayers pay for services they dont even receive. How quaint you approve.
@savageecho Post 2) About the Beer Wars..... So, to you, the fact that Govt regulations in some cases are unfair, distort free markets is the reason to have 100% govt running of certain necessary industries? I guess if a certain business goes bankrupt, we should then ban all businesses?
@luvcheney1 Whoa, hang on. I never said ANYTHING about having 100% gov't run industries. It seems you are mistaking my postion as being a supporter of big gov't. I am not. We need the largest amount of work from the private sector to sustain a fair gov't structure. The point was that businesses WILL do anything in their power to distort the market and so having private sector police, for example, would serve the needs of the business, not the public. They MUST be impartial not driven by business
@savageecho Well, you forgot WHAT you said, "I think that private contracting those services is silly". The services I mentioned were fire, police, teachers, which you admitted werent complicated industries. When a politician says he supports "teachers", "police", "firefighters", what is meant is that he supports unions. Note that all over the US, services are being decimated, because money isnt there to pay. Retired union members ARE 1st in line, to NOT have a "shared sacrifice"
@savageecho Post 2) BTW, if the needs of businesses are being served in the US, do you think outsourcing is a lie? Do you not look at the parts content stickers on US brand cars? It seems obvious to me, that US corps outsource because conditions for business are BETTER elsewhere. Seems we NEED govt to make conditions BETTER for business. Unless you like outsourcing.
@savageecho You said, "businesses WILL do anything in their power to distort the market". My reply simply pointed out the reality that outsourcing PROVES business conditions are better elsewhere, and I listed a bunch of reasons. So, if you THINK business is ABLE to distort the market, outsourcing proves they arent doing a very good job of it, since they want to LEAVE.
@luvcheney1 Except many companies are NOT outsourcing or relocating. Many companies get all sorts of benifits from crony capitalism. There is no such thing as a company that is "too big to fail." Some companies get more benefits than others and it is directly tied to lobbyists. Unions can be good at preventing abuse but can go too far and drive up cost too much. Capitalism can be a good production and economic model but can also go too far and lean on wage slavery too much.
@savageecho Companies that outsource do so because conditions are better outside the US. Many corporations dont have the ability to outsource. For example, 2/3 of WalMart stores are in the US, how can you outsource those retail outlets? Insurance corps, etc. I never said corps are too big too fail. Wage slavery? Please stop with hyperbole. Everyone working anywhere is in the best job he can find, voluntarily.
@luvcheney1 I did not mean to imply that you had said that corps were too big to fail. The point was the corporations said it themselves in order to gain benefits, this is crony capitalism. Wage slavery is not hyperbole, I am paid by my employer but not as much as I am worth because if I, or anyone else, is truely paid what they contribute to the employer the employer would not make much profit and neither would the shareholders. The gap between employer and employee is quite large.
@savageecho Wages are simply the price of labor. They respond to the "supply- demand model", which has nothing to do with your opinion of your worth. If you are worth more, get another job. If you cant earn more, then you KNOW your worth.
@luvcheney1 I'm not talking about opinion in worth. For example, if a salesman brings in 12 million dollars in profits to a company he will NOT be paid 12 million for his efforts yet his work is CLEARLY of that value. By the nature of the structure he will get a part of that and the rest will be passed up the chain with some actually being kept by the company and not all paid out. Ditto for labor. So, no it is not simply the "price of labor."
@savageecho Wages are the price of labor. Price of oranges is the price of oranges. Do you think the price of oranges doesnt include a profit, wages, insurance, water, and all other related costs? Of course, the entire value added by a worker isnt given to him. The value added must cover all other costs. If you dont like your wage, start your own business, get another job, get more training in something employers are willing to PAY for, or shut the fuck up.
@luvcheney1 I am not complaining about my wages, I'm speaking to the system. Your statement, "Wages are the price of labor. Price of oranges is the price of oranges." is a bad comparison. Oranges are priced higher than the cost it takes to produce them in order to make a profit, which is fine. Wages are not. They are priced absurdly low so that others can make the profit created by labor. The divide is so great that it takes the average worker a full year to make what their CEO makes in a day.
@savageecho Perhaps you think labor makes automobiles. OK, fine, try it. I bet you might actually need a fucking factory building, machines, research and development, engineers, and God knows what else, I dont. Glad you do. Labor + nothing= very little. Go mow a lawn, clean a pool, etc. Even then, you need a fucking truck. But, Capital + labor= something far more. Capital needs its share. BTW, if you take WalMarts CEO`s wages, given to each of WM`s employees, its fucking 5 cents.
@luvcheney1 Why are you so angry and why are you resorting to strawmen arguments? "Perhaps you think labor makes automobiles," and then you procede to argue that point. I never even implied that labor alone does anything in particular. My question to the system is, why the huge divide? FedEx cannot run without the labor and it cannot run without the management. Both are important and so is incentive but there comes a point where the divide is so great that the incentive is unfair and silly.
@savageecho Lets try logic, on the unfair and silly wage gap. Why would stockholders allow a business to waste THEIR money, overpaying executives, when the money would go into their own pockets, if indeed, it isnt really necessary? The same is true for ordinary laborers, as well, and skilled labor. Wages are prices, and are set at the point where there is balance between the supply of individuals capable of doing the job, and the jobs available.
@luvcheney1 So where is your 'logic'? Often those who are majority shareholders ARE the CEO's, board members, and upper management. So they would not see it as a waste to collect such a large protion of the profits. You also failed to show ANY reason why you might think paying them so much is necessary, you just asserted that it was necessary by virtue of stockholders. "The same is true for ordinary laborers" youlost me here. Are you asserting that it is necessary to pay them so much less?
@savageecho If the CEO does happen to own most of the stock, then if he takes dividends, or wages instead comes down to a simple tax question: is it better to take profit at personal rates, or pay corp taxes, and then dividends? OR, reorganize as an S-Corp, and just pay personal. If its HIS corp, of course the profits are his. Yes, it IS necessary to pay market wages to workers. UAW got WAY over market. UAW 1.5 mill workers 1979, 350,000 today. Over market? GET FIRED.
@jekonimus I believe median is average when taking out the outliers. Its a more fair averaging. The clip does make clear to correct that by average he means more specifically median, but for our purpose, its fair to interchange.
Like average income if you income billionaires will change the average of the US considerably, but thats not fair to think the average income of the US is 1mil, so we take out those outliers to get the median of 26k.
......I am a subscriber..I watch a lot of these videos..and every clip that I see, I understand a little more about our country in terms of politics. Politics isn't something that I am interested but I figure its something that deals with my way of living. Tonight, I have seen the latest 18 vids uploaded, and I have got to say, I am disgusted as an American and a human being of this planet. The human race does not deserve salvation. We all deserve to die if this is how stupid our people are.
No person in history has been able to quell the greed in Washington. Why can't we all just agree that FREEDOM and CIVIL LIBERTIES are what make us free? Why does some guy grossing on average 1 million/yr get to have a say regarding how I live? These r the folks that need to piss off.
@versanil Well I appreciate your help, but people dont seem to agree on what it means, so I didn't get much wiser :D
What they own is to me pretty irrelevant. If they had a good job before they own more, but that doesn't matter. What they earn or how much it costs to buy them, that is interesting information.
You don't have to believe me, there are independent definitions of net worth you can look up on the web. I should also point out that it also includes any liabilities such as loans (which reduce net worth).
I agree it is pretty irrelevant as long as they are doing a good job. It would be nice if we had some other measure of success like 'net kindness' or 'net prudence' we could measure our governors with.
@versanil BS, you forgot to add in liabilities, stupid. I would rather see a 1988 Buick pull into the dealership, than a 2010 Mercedes. At least I know nobody would loan money on the Buick, so its actually an asset, while the Mercedes has over a 75% chance its leased, so is a liability.
Fuck all these guys! Lets me and you get some high up ranks, we both have an IQ over 3 but can fake it to be 1 or 2. Get tons of money, sit back in our mansions as you report news on TYT for fun smoking high quality cuban cigars and watching overpriced pornography while we eat or veal with a glass of $500 champagne.
You know what would be amazing? If THE CITIZENS chose the salaries for politicians based on overall approval of Congress. That would motivate them, I'm sure. I mean, ideally we want politicians to work for the us, the people, right? In a normal business, you set the salary of the people working for you. These assholes try to treat politics as a business then let's treat it as a motherf-cking business!
@MrAthanz Thanks, but probably not. The people who would have to make it happen would be well aware of the huge pay cut they'd receive. Whatever will they do without an extra 200k under the Christmas tree? It's just a relatively well-thought out fantasy at this point.
"Sens. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Mike Lee (R-Utah) were, on average, each worth less than $774,000. That's well below the $2.6 million average for the Senate, and also well below the $3.2 million average for non-Tea Party Caucus GOP senators. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), the only senator in the Progressive Caucus, had an average net worth of $429,000 in 2010.... Notably, Sanders, DeMint, Paul and Lee are all among the 25 poorest senators, according to the Center's research."
I agree with you... But jumping around from median to average and comparing net worth to annual income gives you the appearance of trying to deceive anyone watching this. Give us apples to apples and your point will be just as strong.
Cenk you do have to specify, is it average or median next time. Average is one guy has $5 and other %50, you sum it up and divide by 2, median is when you take from a row of 12345678, 4+5/2=4.5 is your median. If they have a median of 1.8 and not just an average, that's a freaking huge number.
Cenk is a whiner. I love him but he really has become a whiny child lately. Come on Cenk just report the facts and chill out with the dramatics - ....OF COURSE .... OF COURSE .... you won't!
@THOMPSONSART Is sort of a ridiculous, they work less then all the middle class median income, and they are earning much more, so we should shut up about that ?
If successful companies decided to leave the US shores and setup in a different more advantageous country no one could blame them. Our tax laws are crippling everyone. They simply have found a way to avoid the taxes by buying influence. The only leverage the middle class have is a vote and that is squandered by not petitioning and marching on Washington. All this greed happened because the 99 percent really don't give a shit what happens to their future.
Cenk, your language here is somewhat, well, either ass-backwards or confusing, when you say: "the Democrats are doing a little bit better than the progressives. While, I support you much of the time, you are implying that being rich is literally a bad thing. It's not, its how you use it, and if you have more than you need and seek more at the expense of others.
@grffnchn65. Sarah Palin will never be POTUS so you won't have to move to Canada. ecwaufisxtreme only says she'll be POTUS because she works for Palin becuase she's too stupid, high and drunk to get a real job. ecw knows Palin will never be POTUS and this scares her to death which is why she keeps saying Palin will be POTUS becuase ecw knows she'll have to get a real job but can't for the reasons I mentioned.
Maybe the tea party republicans are wealthier because they were taught to live within their means. Maybe they believe in personal responsibility and see through the illusion that government is there to take care of them from cradle to grave. Cenk you have a bad habit of demonizing the wealthy. You know your boss Al Gore benefits greatly being in the 1% club, maybe even the 0.01% super class.
@knbagnall if you honestly believe this you've been duped. a politician who believes "personal responsibility" applies to them is a contradiction in terms.
When you ask, "How much Congress worth?" I think you have to also ask, "to whom?" To the American public, the current Congress is worth very little. To the large corporations, Congress is the motherlode. As for the financial worth of these people, I couldn't care less - they have obviously decided to pursue money to fill their otherwise soulless and lowly existence.
@ralphinator2 No, without a system established by the governed to occupy the power vacuum, somebody would come in and force themselves upon the system and the people. It's their job to prevent things from happening but to still be there, preventing anybody else from taking over.
@romanmir01 so regulations regarding a safe working environment should be repealed? and food safety regulations should be repealed? and regulations to prevent them from selling you a lemon should be repealed?
most regulations actually protect people and to be honest, if we didn't have these regulations you'd be clamoring for them.
@satanisthetruegod666 Yes, all regulations should be repealed. Everything you mentioned and everything you forgot to mention. There is no place for government in any of it and it's the reason the economy is leaving US.
@romanmir01 then you are more foolish than you seemed. safety regulations are there to keep companies from fucking the public, the environment, and their employees.
if you honestly believe it, then move to a country without them.
congresson is supposed to make 250k annually so hard are they making more than that?
marvelous3999 4 weeks ago
Congressmen should be executed.
whatever6516 1 month ago
I should have gone into politics, i would have been rich.
Stingerbillion 1 month ago
1,8 million? Still half of yours, Cenk.
rillesnille 1 month ago
I am so happy that you are on T for all those who might not see you here may just catch you Cenk and your still refreshing honesty
ccm800 1 month ago
america should be split in two, a democratic lead state and a republican lead state, then go to war.
CHEESYhairyGASH 1 month ago
i want to grow up and work for the federal government its a gravy job that makes tons of money
jackthePS3GAMER 1 month ago
yeah, 50 senators with 2.6 mil . . . house isn't that bad imo
bakedpootetoo 1 month ago
Congress may have that much--but they're not worth it.
BottleConcreteBlond 1 month ago
What's the net worth of deadbeat dad Joe Walsh?
aaronpolitical 1 month ago
What if we passed a law that fixes all congresspeople's pay each year to be the average income of their immediate constituents for the year prior and all senator's pay to the average of income in their State of the year prior? That would both lower the deficit AND give them great incentive to raise the standard of living across the us.
savageecho 1 month ago 9
@savageecho Since many of them were wealthy before they get into congress (and even wealthier after when they become lobbyists--why don't we take money from their personal holdings when the standard of living doesn't increase?
BottleConcreteBlond 1 month ago
@BottleConcreteBlond NO, no no no no. That is called theft. Some of them earned their wealth, some got it through crony capitalism and some were born into it. These will not go away returning a wrong for a wrong will not make it right. I simply propose that we head down the road that leads to less crony capitalism by eliminating the 'political class' that we have developed.
savageecho 1 month ago
@savageecho As if govt can raise living standards.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 Ummmm, look around. We have the best sanitation and waste management system in the world. Regulations on meat and water have raised the standard significantly. Building codes make buildings safer. Employment regulations save lives. Not to mention police and fire protection. Yes, gov't can raise living standards, it can also fail to do so as it is made up of people.
savageecho 1 month ago
@savageecho Ummmmmm, look around. All the things you mentioned cost money. The Govt didnt create the money that it used to do those things, the private sector did. Without enough wealth creation to pay for those things, they wouldnt exist. In fact, until the US DID become wealthy enough, they didnt, Wealth must exist BEFORE it can be spent. 3rd world nations, with just enough to eat alone, have no way for Govt to "mandate" out of thin air nice working conditions, with 10 min breaks.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 Of course they cost money and I'll gladly pay my taxes to have these things. Gov't has never created wealth, gov't only cost money (including gov't jobs). As Diamond points out, all gov't are kleptocracies. What makes them good or bad kleptocracies is how they spend there stolen (taxed) wealth. It can raise living standards but it must also incourage private growth and it must do these simultaniously. I just dont think they should overreach in some of the ways they have.
savageecho 1 month ago
@savageecho Many of the things you say you want I agree we need them. The difference is that Govt involvement is too much. Local govts can easily hire private fire fighters, even police. Local govts being bankrupted today by pensions and benefits at way over market.. Workplace safety from fear of lawsuits, not regulations. Waste can easily be private. Even if case made for Govt funding, employees can be of private corps, contracted by govt.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 I agree that Gov't too much at times. I have to point out though that local gov'ts do hire their firefighters and police and we all pay local taxes to support that. The typical overreach in all levels of gov't is a big problem. "employees can be of private corps, contracted by govt." is still the same as gov't employees from a fiscal perspective, they cost taxpayer money. The only way out of debt is to cut extra spending and increase income, for gov't this means reduction AND taxes.
savageecho 1 month ago
@savageecho I suggest local govts hiring private contractors for police and fire as a less threatening free market compromise. The advantage is even though publically paid for, there is no political vote getting motive to overpay these Union voting blocks, to get elected. Private firms would pay wages and benefits based on market values, not pay them off to support politicians who "take care of unions".
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 There is no such thing as a "free market" and never has been. It would be ugly if there was, just as it is ugly when there is too much regulation or if regulation is focused in the wrong places. I think what you are referring to is crony capitalism which is why I'm with Twain, "Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason."
savageecho 1 month ago
@savageecho In 1910, total govt spending at all levels was 7% of GDP, and today, at the Fed, State, local levels it is 40%. So, then, private sector had 93% of GDP, today it is 60%. Relative, it was more free market. Not having police, firefighters, and teachers being employees of the govt is closer to free market. I can say I`m on a diet, but that shouldnt HAVE to mean I never eat 8 potato chips.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 OH, I agree, our spending is madness. Yes, it was CLOSER to free market but it was NOT free market. Our spending needs to be reigned in significantly but what you are suggesting is still gov't cost. If teachers, firefighters, cops, military are all independent contractors but that contract is paid by tax dollars then it is still gov't spending and the private sector will not pick up those costs voluntarily.
savageecho 1 month ago
@savageecho Most people agree law and order is a govt function. Most people agree most young families could never pay 100% of the education of their kids, and most agree it is in everyone`s benefit to educate. However, pay and benefits, pensions, etc far over free market prices are unsustainable, and that is why privatization would meet both points of view.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 I don't think that privatization in some of these fields is a good idea. privatization has the drive for profit built in, which is not inherantly bad, but can cause problems. What drives efficiency is competition, not privatiaztion directly. I suggest we make some of the gov't services competition driven against other gov't services. I do think some parts should be privatized but not schools, cops, fire fighters or military.
savageecho 1 month ago
@savageecho K-12 govt, union monopoly rated #34 in World, in math, science, far below Japan, Singapore, our competitors. US cant compete screwing bumpers on Chevy`s, and doesnt have the educated people to compete in tech either. We will fall way behind, its a done deal already. Cops, firefighters bankrupting municipalities already, retiring at 55, while private sector gets little benefits, and work past 65 to support the govt workers who get full pa, benefits, take another job too.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 Agreed to the points above but how, exactly, is privatization going to fix this? One, if cops/firefighters/teacher are privatized then they will have to follow the corporate agenda of whoever is footing the bill, bad juju man. We need to address the abuses in gov't and privatize non-civil servant jobs, and make the civil servant jobs compete, union or not. Look at Sweeden, two PUBLIC school systems that compete and they get results.
savageecho 1 month ago
@savageecho You really think that fire fighting is so complex, more so than inventing IPOD`s, designing cars, planes, that Govt HAS to do it? Cops? Schools? The corporations providing the services would HAVE to please the govt locality contracting to them. Local govt would also want to stay in office, and would be responsive to the public as well in quality of services. The public is stupid, regarding benefits, market wages, etc. Uninformed.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 It has nothing to do with complexity. It has everything to do with public service. Yes the public is largely uninformed but private companies are prone to greed, control and monopoly. I think that private contracting those services is silly because a) it still costs tax dollars and b) is too easy for crony capitalism to take hold. The private company only has to please the POLITICIAN not the people. See "Beer Wars" for an example of private business and gov't mixing.
savageecho 1 month ago
@savageecho Private companies are prone to making a profit (instead of HUGE unfunded liabilities Fed, State, local govts do), bankrupting themselves, at taxpayers expense. Now, in order to pay pensions, benefits for retired cops, teachers, and firefighters, they cut existing police, firefighting, and schools. Now, taxpayers pay for services they dont even receive. How quaint you approve.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@savageecho Post 2) About the Beer Wars..... So, to you, the fact that Govt regulations in some cases are unfair, distort free markets is the reason to have 100% govt running of certain necessary industries? I guess if a certain business goes bankrupt, we should then ban all businesses?
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 Whoa, hang on. I never said ANYTHING about having 100% gov't run industries. It seems you are mistaking my postion as being a supporter of big gov't. I am not. We need the largest amount of work from the private sector to sustain a fair gov't structure. The point was that businesses WILL do anything in their power to distort the market and so having private sector police, for example, would serve the needs of the business, not the public. They MUST be impartial not driven by business
savageecho 1 month ago
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@savageecho Well, you forgot WHAT you said, "I think that private contracting those services is silly". The services I mentioned were fire, police, teachers, which you admitted werent complicated industries. When a politician says he supports "teachers", "police", "firefighters", what is meant is that he supports unions. Note that all over the US, services are being decimated, because money isnt there to pay. Retired union members ARE 1st in line, to NOT have a "shared sacrifice"
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@savageecho Post 2) BTW, if the needs of businesses are being served in the US, do you think outsourcing is a lie? Do you not look at the parts content stickers on US brand cars? It seems obvious to me, that US corps outsource because conditions for business are BETTER elsewhere. Seems we NEED govt to make conditions BETTER for business. Unless you like outsourcing.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 We definately need to be more friendly to production rather than consumption. Unions have played a big part in driving that out.
savageecho 1 month ago
@savageecho Unions, taxes, regulations, permitting, environmental actions, persecution of profit seeking activities and Mgrs, demonizing producers, lawsuit awards, anti trust, etc.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 So let me guess, the non-problem creating enitity is private business?
savageecho 1 month ago
@savageecho You said, "businesses WILL do anything in their power to distort the market". My reply simply pointed out the reality that outsourcing PROVES business conditions are better elsewhere, and I listed a bunch of reasons. So, if you THINK business is ABLE to distort the market, outsourcing proves they arent doing a very good job of it, since they want to LEAVE.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 Except many companies are NOT outsourcing or relocating. Many companies get all sorts of benifits from crony capitalism. There is no such thing as a company that is "too big to fail." Some companies get more benefits than others and it is directly tied to lobbyists. Unions can be good at preventing abuse but can go too far and drive up cost too much. Capitalism can be a good production and economic model but can also go too far and lean on wage slavery too much.
savageecho 1 month ago
@savageecho Companies that outsource do so because conditions are better outside the US. Many corporations dont have the ability to outsource. For example, 2/3 of WalMart stores are in the US, how can you outsource those retail outlets? Insurance corps, etc. I never said corps are too big too fail. Wage slavery? Please stop with hyperbole. Everyone working anywhere is in the best job he can find, voluntarily.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 I did not mean to imply that you had said that corps were too big to fail. The point was the corporations said it themselves in order to gain benefits, this is crony capitalism. Wage slavery is not hyperbole, I am paid by my employer but not as much as I am worth because if I, or anyone else, is truely paid what they contribute to the employer the employer would not make much profit and neither would the shareholders. The gap between employer and employee is quite large.
savageecho 4 weeks ago
@savageecho Wages are simply the price of labor. They respond to the "supply- demand model", which has nothing to do with your opinion of your worth. If you are worth more, get another job. If you cant earn more, then you KNOW your worth.
luvcheney1 4 weeks ago
@luvcheney1 I'm not talking about opinion in worth. For example, if a salesman brings in 12 million dollars in profits to a company he will NOT be paid 12 million for his efforts yet his work is CLEARLY of that value. By the nature of the structure he will get a part of that and the rest will be passed up the chain with some actually being kept by the company and not all paid out. Ditto for labor. So, no it is not simply the "price of labor."
savageecho 3 weeks ago
@savageecho Wages are the price of labor. Price of oranges is the price of oranges. Do you think the price of oranges doesnt include a profit, wages, insurance, water, and all other related costs? Of course, the entire value added by a worker isnt given to him. The value added must cover all other costs. If you dont like your wage, start your own business, get another job, get more training in something employers are willing to PAY for, or shut the fuck up.
luvcheney1 3 weeks ago
@luvcheney1 I am not complaining about my wages, I'm speaking to the system. Your statement, "Wages are the price of labor. Price of oranges is the price of oranges." is a bad comparison. Oranges are priced higher than the cost it takes to produce them in order to make a profit, which is fine. Wages are not. They are priced absurdly low so that others can make the profit created by labor. The divide is so great that it takes the average worker a full year to make what their CEO makes in a day.
savageecho 3 weeks ago
@savageecho Perhaps you think labor makes automobiles. OK, fine, try it. I bet you might actually need a fucking factory building, machines, research and development, engineers, and God knows what else, I dont. Glad you do. Labor + nothing= very little. Go mow a lawn, clean a pool, etc. Even then, you need a fucking truck. But, Capital + labor= something far more. Capital needs its share. BTW, if you take WalMarts CEO`s wages, given to each of WM`s employees, its fucking 5 cents.
luvcheney1 3 weeks ago
@luvcheney1 Why are you so angry and why are you resorting to strawmen arguments? "Perhaps you think labor makes automobiles," and then you procede to argue that point. I never even implied that labor alone does anything in particular. My question to the system is, why the huge divide? FedEx cannot run without the labor and it cannot run without the management. Both are important and so is incentive but there comes a point where the divide is so great that the incentive is unfair and silly.
savageecho 3 weeks ago
@savageecho Lets try logic, on the unfair and silly wage gap. Why would stockholders allow a business to waste THEIR money, overpaying executives, when the money would go into their own pockets, if indeed, it isnt really necessary? The same is true for ordinary laborers, as well, and skilled labor. Wages are prices, and are set at the point where there is balance between the supply of individuals capable of doing the job, and the jobs available.
luvcheney1 3 weeks ago
@luvcheney1 So where is your 'logic'? Often those who are majority shareholders ARE the CEO's, board members, and upper management. So they would not see it as a waste to collect such a large protion of the profits. You also failed to show ANY reason why you might think paying them so much is necessary, you just asserted that it was necessary by virtue of stockholders. "The same is true for ordinary laborers" youlost me here. Are you asserting that it is necessary to pay them so much less?
savageecho 3 weeks ago
@savageecho If the CEO does happen to own most of the stock, then if he takes dividends, or wages instead comes down to a simple tax question: is it better to take profit at personal rates, or pay corp taxes, and then dividends? OR, reorganize as an S-Corp, and just pay personal. If its HIS corp, of course the profits are his. Yes, it IS necessary to pay market wages to workers. UAW got WAY over market. UAW 1.5 mill workers 1979, 350,000 today. Over market? GET FIRED.
luvcheney1 3 weeks ago
lets find all the rich people steal all their shit and piss in their eyes and ask them how they feel about it !
rockinfaceplant0000 1 month ago
Median is not the average last i checked? so actually this clip is somewhat misleading :) I assume it's just a mistake...
great show though ^^
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@jekonimus I believe median is average when taking out the outliers. Its a more fair averaging. The clip does make clear to correct that by average he means more specifically median, but for our purpose, its fair to interchange.
Like average income if you income billionaires will change the average of the US considerably, but thats not fair to think the average income of the US is 1mil, so we take out those outliers to get the median of 26k.
In the right context, 26k can be average
waltermh111 1 month ago
......I am a subscriber..I watch a lot of these videos..and every clip that I see, I understand a little more about our country in terms of politics. Politics isn't something that I am interested but I figure its something that deals with my way of living. Tonight, I have seen the latest 18 vids uploaded, and I have got to say, I am disgusted as an American and a human being of this planet. The human race does not deserve salvation. We all deserve to die if this is how stupid our people are.
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Awesome show Cenk!!
swegirl09 1 month ago
To put Congress' work time in perspective,
My high school handbook says, if we're in school less then 177 days, we must make days up, until we're there 177 days.
BurlingtonNorthernRy 1 month ago
I think if we outsourced congress to India, we could get the same bad laws and overspending, but for half the price! I say outsource.
calimar28 1 month ago 47
Senator: (Noun): a millionaire, or if just elected, soon to become one.
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Cenk, be careful in that median is not an "average"
lulz1978 1 month ago
The correct answer is nothing. They are all worthless, and don't deserve their countries money, time, or effort.
SuperGreenSmartie 1 month ago
fuck those mother fuckers
AndrewMacedonia 1 month ago
No person in history has been able to quell the greed in Washington. Why can't we all just agree that FREEDOM and CIVIL LIBERTIES are what make us free? Why does some guy grossing on average 1 million/yr get to have a say regarding how I live? These r the folks that need to piss off.
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What's the median income if you exclude the 1%?
vpsaline 1 month ago
1.8 million! jaw dropped to the floor!
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How much is Congess worth? I don't know, why don't you ask Goldman Sachs?
dlucas90 1 month ago
Medians should never be used. Only means.
mrgames4people 1 month ago
The poop is in the pudding
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I know you understand the difference... but stop saying "average" when you don't mean it!
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How...? I dont understand. Why do these people have a worth? :/
I must be because I am European, but is this the amount you need to pay to buy them?
SIC66SIC66 1 month ago
@SIC66SIC66
Yes, through lobbying
PrettyBoyDeuce 1 month ago
@SIC66SIC66
Net worth = the total value of assets of the individual. e.g. house, cash, stock, etc.
versanil 1 month ago
@versanil Well I appreciate your help, but people dont seem to agree on what it means, so I didn't get much wiser :D
What they own is to me pretty irrelevant. If they had a good job before they own more, but that doesn't matter. What they earn or how much it costs to buy them, that is interesting information.
SIC66SIC66 1 month ago
@SIC66SIC66
You don't have to believe me, there are independent definitions of net worth you can look up on the web. I should also point out that it also includes any liabilities such as loans (which reduce net worth).
I agree it is pretty irrelevant as long as they are doing a good job. It would be nice if we had some other measure of success like 'net kindness' or 'net prudence' we could measure our governors with.
versanil 1 month ago
@versanil BS, you forgot to add in liabilities, stupid. I would rather see a 1988 Buick pull into the dealership, than a 2010 Mercedes. At least I know nobody would loan money on the Buick, so its actually an asset, while the Mercedes has over a 75% chance its leased, so is a liability.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
The riches make the politicians sloppy. E.g. some congressman answered to a guy who tried to tell him the problems of SOPA that
"Everyone is talking about it. I'm voting for it because it sounds important."
The timeless LoGH clip describing the role of the government. /watch?v=RlEbH_JmCxw&t=5m17s
The quotes of Thomas Jefferson are solid gold.
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five thousand doruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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Stevie68000 1 month ago
the poop is in the pudding, lol wat
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MrAthanz 1 month ago
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@qwecjc haha what?
The poop is in the pudding? lol
MrAthanz 1 month ago
"When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson.
N0MWU 1 month ago 98
@N0MWU Wolf-PAC!
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@N0MWU the man was pushing for white people first, we need this back!
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@N0MWU Thomas Jefferson = epic win
TheCreeperhunter 1 month ago 2
Cenk Uyguer net worth? 3.5 million
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blah blah blah
imcrazy85 1 month ago in playlist political
Dear Cenk,
Fuck all these guys! Lets me and you get some high up ranks, we both have an IQ over 3 but can fake it to be 1 or 2. Get tons of money, sit back in our mansions as you report news on TYT for fun smoking high quality cuban cigars and watching overpriced pornography while we eat or veal with a glass of $500 champagne.
Ruzlier 1 month ago
You know what would be amazing? If THE CITIZENS chose the salaries for politicians based on overall approval of Congress. That would motivate them, I'm sure. I mean, ideally we want politicians to work for the us, the people, right? In a normal business, you set the salary of the people working for you. These assholes try to treat politics as a business then let's treat it as a motherf-cking business!
iKickComputers 1 month ago 7
@iKickComputers that's actually pretty brilliant. Do you think it'll ever happen?
MrAthanz 1 month ago
@MrAthanz Thanks, but probably not. The people who would have to make it happen would be well aware of the huge pay cut they'd receive. Whatever will they do without an extra 200k under the Christmas tree? It's just a relatively well-thought out fantasy at this point.
iKickComputers 1 month ago
I thought the cost of bribing them not their incomes.
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Are they worth the bullet everyone wants to put in them? /sarcasm
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they're worthless, any other questions?
jackebner 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
So here a question what are we going to do about it... you guessed it nothing.. as usual..
papasparks2009 1 month ago
A buck and change...
TsugaruClan 1 month ago
I think I'm in love with Cenk's voice.
justmejaytee 1 month ago
"Sens. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Mike Lee (R-Utah) were, on average, each worth less than $774,000. That's well below the $2.6 million average for the Senate, and also well below the $3.2 million average for non-Tea Party Caucus GOP senators. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), the only senator in the Progressive Caucus, had an average net worth of $429,000 in 2010.... Notably, Sanders, DeMint, Paul and Lee are all among the 25 poorest senators, according to the Center's research."
fabes0011 1 month ago
again a vid with 301/302 views and a multiple number of likes....
jojonnyjones 1 month ago
Congress doesn't and shouldn't have to do any work for the American people. heh. Americans... why help them at all?
cpufightclub 1 month ago
The U.S Coca-Cola Congress is more of a rubberstamp for the corporate cleptocracy than the Supreme Soviet was for the CPSU.
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They need to be fed like fat pigs so they keep in line and stay satisfied.
underbjorn 1 month ago
ok. new career plan. i want to be a senator.
elmirasahar 1 month ago
Umm, My Shit is more Valuable, and gets more accomplished too!!!!
randyseck 1 month ago
That's a great question. Fortunately I have the answer.
How much is congress worth? About a buck 35 and a half eaten big mac. . . a decade. Maybe a pitcher of water every week or so just to motivate them.
Too harsh?
TryYellowSnowCone 1 month ago
@zwiiyt youre nothin but a feeble, stank little cunt.
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@zwiiyt Michele Bachmann. Your argument is invalid.
YoungJaedong 1 month ago
2:29 "the poof is in the pudding" heh heh poof
Hirfel 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Politicians only work 100 days because all they do is vote on the stuff the real masters write up the during their break.
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thumbs up if you would be okay with TYT taking a few days off on the holidays
Gr4yW0rld 1 month ago
I agree with you... But jumping around from median to average and comparing net worth to annual income gives you the appearance of trying to deceive anyone watching this. Give us apples to apples and your point will be just as strong.
RichAnderson114 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
congress=the 1% for the 1% fuck them
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Cenk you do have to specify, is it average or median next time. Average is one guy has $5 and other %50, you sum it up and divide by 2, median is when you take from a row of 12345678, 4+5/2=4.5 is your median. If they have a median of 1.8 and not just an average, that's a freaking huge number.
PR0H0LDEM 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Not much by the looks of it.
Cheap sell out, cunts.
NTtheLion 1 month ago
@zwiiyt .... They are still public servants being paid BY THE ONES MAKING ON AVERAGE 26k A YEAR!
PaintingOfTheMind 1 month ago
BEST SHOW EVER FOR BRAKING IT ALL DOWN FOR THE PEOPLE "
stonethugmusic 1 month ago
Cenk is a whiner. I love him but he really has become a whiny child lately. Come on Cenk just report the facts and chill out with the dramatics - ....OF COURSE .... OF COURSE .... you won't!
THOMPSONSART 1 month ago
@THOMPSONSART you do realize that if you don't like the way he reports there are other news outlets that you could watch.
satanisthetruegod666 1 month ago
@satanisthetruegod666 I realize that - satanisthetruegod. Nice name - you do realize there is no god named satan.
THOMPSONSART 1 month ago
@THOMPSONSART i do realize that, nice comment, you do realize you're not the first to point it out right?
satanisthetruegod666 1 month ago
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@THOMPSONSART you do realize that if you don't like the way he reports there are other news outlets that you could watch.
satanisthetruegod666 1 month ago
@THOMPSONSART Is sort of a ridiculous, they work less then all the middle class median income, and they are earning much more, so we should shut up about that ?
Thats a disgrace attitude.
izaccy 1 month ago
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If successful companies decided to leave the US shores and setup in a different more advantageous country no one could blame them. Our tax laws are crippling everyone. They simply have found a way to avoid the taxes by buying influence. The only leverage the middle class have is a vote and that is squandered by not petitioning and marching on Washington. All this greed happened because the 99 percent really don't give a shit what happens to their future.
THOMPSONSART 1 month ago
I could do a better job, more often, for $26000 a year.
brokenbeekerman 1 month ago in playlist The Young Turks Show January 6, 2012
That Last point he Made Is Soo True. Lol
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Stevie68000 1 month ago
Democrats good derp republicans bad derrppp.. They're all owned by the same elite come on.
SKATEyD3STROY 1 month ago
I guess you can pretty much say that bureaucrats are a bunch of selfish bastards.
cooky5479 1 month ago
Cenk, your language here is somewhat, well, either ass-backwards or confusing, when you say: "the Democrats are doing a little bit better than the progressives. While, I support you much of the time, you are implying that being rich is literally a bad thing. It's not, its how you use it, and if you have more than you need and seek more at the expense of others.
727ping 1 month ago
We NEED President Sarah Palin! She will put Congress in their place and EXPOSE the PUSSIES of every male congressmen and senator!
ecwaufisxtreme 1 month ago
@ecwaufisxtreme if she was president i would move to canada
grffnchn65 1 month ago
@grffnchn65. Sarah Palin will never be POTUS so you won't have to move to Canada. ecwaufisxtreme only says she'll be POTUS because she works for Palin becuase she's too stupid, high and drunk to get a real job. ecw knows Palin will never be POTUS and this scares her to death which is why she keeps saying Palin will be POTUS becuase ecw knows she'll have to get a real job but can't for the reasons I mentioned.
cne08 1 month ago
The tea party is nothing but a joke.
egalitarian2021 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Now the democracy we used to believe in for so long is now a hypocracy. How utterly sad and disappointing now is to be an American. PERIOD!!!
lapiz4azulli 1 month ago
these numbers are misleading.
troglodyte3344 1 month ago
How is it fair that you are comparing median income to net worth?
Justanyo 1 month ago
Th only problem i have with this is that median is not the same as average.
treklub3 1 month ago
@treklub3 The median is a better number than the mean because it isn't inflated by the top earners. Half of the country earns less.
pensivesim 1 month ago
What the country needs is a Julius Cesar...
Pleblian 1 month ago
Maybe the tea party republicans are wealthier because they were taught to live within their means. Maybe they believe in personal responsibility and see through the illusion that government is there to take care of them from cradle to grave. Cenk you have a bad habit of demonizing the wealthy. You know your boss Al Gore benefits greatly being in the 1% club, maybe even the 0.01% super class.
knbagnall 1 month ago
@knbagnall if you honestly believe this you've been duped. a politician who believes "personal responsibility" applies to them is a contradiction in terms.
satanisthetruegod666 1 month ago
As president, Ron Paul would take an annual salary of about $34,000
1lIIiliIi1iillIiiII1 1 month ago
THE POOF IS IN THE PUDDING. WE DON'T NEED NO SCOOPING LET THE MF SQUIRM!
ZephonTLucifer 1 month ago
LMAO! I went back just to see if I was hearing thing and yes POOF IS IN THE PUDDING.
ZephonTLucifer 1 month ago
POOF IS IN THE PUDDING AGAIN!
ZephonTLucifer 1 month ago
Haha Cenk said Poof is in the pudding.
ZephonTLucifer 1 month ago
nothing. Eevverrything
youngotakubwoy 1 month ago
How much is congress worth is not the important question, what is important is how much someone is worth to congress.
average person = nothing (unless it's an election year)
company = based on net value and donations given
wealthy person = see company
satanisthetruegod666 1 month ago 66
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Exactly!!!
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jcharit1 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@satanisthetruegod666 exactly
jcharit1 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
He also said that all of america makes up the top 1% in the world
wwehalomixer 1 month ago
There was an asshole complaining that most americans make over 100,000, i'd like him to see this.
wwehalomixer 1 month ago
I don't know how much congress believe they are worth but I do know congress laying lifles at the bottom of the ocean floor is prisles.
LOST11B 1 month ago
Millions in money. Nothing in respect
oralyon 1 month ago
@resincoatedlungs state your sources you may be right but if that was his net worth he probably wouldn't be living in an apartment
thetechgeneration 1 month ago
@resincoatedlunha
thetechgeneration 1 month ago
When you ask, "How much Congress worth?" I think you have to also ask, "to whom?" To the American public, the current Congress is worth very little. To the large corporations, Congress is the motherlode. As for the financial worth of these people, I couldn't care less - they have obviously decided to pursue money to fill their otherwise soulless and lowly existence.
l0gically 1 month ago
How does one join the senate because I need some money. As the commercial says "It's my money and I NEED IT NOWWW!!!!!!
Sephy100 1 month ago
The REAL JOB of a Congressman should be to PREVENT NEW REGULATIONS.
The BAD JOB that they do is when they PASS NEW REGULATIONS.
GOOD JOB is to PREVENT ANY NEW REGULATIONS.
The BEST JOB is to REPEAL OLD REGULATIONS.
You don't understand that? Realise that every new regulation is destruction of your liberties and eventually economy.
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@romanmir01 If their job was to prevent regulations, there would be no job. All they would have to do is stay home.
ralphinator2 1 month ago
@ralphinator2 No, without a system established by the governed to occupy the power vacuum, somebody would come in and force themselves upon the system and the people. It's their job to prevent things from happening but to still be there, preventing anybody else from taking over.
romanmir01 1 month ago
@romanmir01 so regulations regarding a safe working environment should be repealed? and food safety regulations should be repealed? and regulations to prevent them from selling you a lemon should be repealed?
most regulations actually protect people and to be honest, if we didn't have these regulations you'd be clamoring for them.
satanisthetruegod666 1 month ago
@satanisthetruegod666 Yes, all regulations should be repealed. Everything you mentioned and everything you forgot to mention. There is no place for government in any of it and it's the reason the economy is leaving US.
romanmir01 1 month ago
@romanmir01 then you are more foolish than you seemed. safety regulations are there to keep companies from fucking the public, the environment, and their employees.
if you honestly believe it, then move to a country without them.
satanisthetruegod666 1 month ago
@satanisthetruegod666 I did.
romanmir01 1 month ago
@romanmir01 then shut up.
satanisthetruegod666 1 month ago
@satanisthetruegod666 Wow, a true intellectual!
romanmir01 1 month ago