Looking at the replay I do now think the knee was down before the lateral. However it is a given that referees are going to miss some calls and Stanford still had a chance to tackle the guy and actually appeared to give up towards the end of the play (look at #84). California 25, Stanford 20. Thanks goodness we now have instant replay.
@LilKepi Because the refs didn't have the capability of reviewing plays back then. From what I could see, it appeared he was down before the ball left his hands. Still, not sure if it was "indisputable, video evidence"......
Lol, college football refs don't care about the actual call. They just hope they get out with their lives, considering what the fans would do if he made the call against them.
@mega408 You must be joking. Even without the benefit of HD it's very obvious he was down. And I have no dog in this fight whatsoever as I'm not a fan or enemy of either school.
I was there. The trombone guy who got knocked over (Tyrone?) had played football before, maybe in high school, that was a funny part of the whole thing...Stanford thought they had won the game until "The Play" occured. That was why the band was on the field in the final seconds. All right now, baby its all right now??
And that's why LSJUMB makes fun of people...to keep from facing the truth that their most famous moment will always be when one of their band members got his trombone shoved down his throat by Kevin Moen.
HIS FOOT WAS DOWN! WAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!! ah, shut up.
Stanford fans can shut the fuck up. this was, and always will be the greatest play of all time. suck it up, stop fucking trolling because cal obviously won, and watch the god damn legendary video. Go bears.
You can find the story behind "The Play" on Wikipedia. Apparently I can't post the link nor can I post it without h t t p in from of it. So search Wikipedia for The Play and you will find it.
I replayed this play many times at around the 38 sec mark and I use to think it was down, but cant be for certain. Why I say that is they may classify the "lateral" as a fumble as he never clearly had possession of the ball when his knee was down although was still touching it. The ball was moving prior to the knee touching. Its a call that goes both ways IMO.
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@abbeywood22 look up 'Cal - Stanford 1982 Big Game' at about 55 seconds stanford makes a play and he was actually out of bounds so technically cal won the game so suck on that
obviously he was down and it was a forward pass, how bout the "140" or whatever get the hell over it, not the first time a blown call cost a game, besides stanford deserved it, they deserved to have 5 blown calls for havin their damn band on the field before the game was over, oh well i guess thats what you expect out of pac-10 football
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@Except Stanford's band was on the field, so Cal would have gotten an extra play because a game can't end on a defensive penalty. So who knows what would have happened?
@miamad They didn't have instant replay & review back then.
Using your logic, we'd have about 80 years of every NFL and college football game ever played being wrong.
You know the greatest comeback in NFL history? (Bill vs. Oilers, 1992) A Bills player clearly steps out of bounds on a TD run, of course the refs didn't catch it.
You had better go watch every tape back to the 1940's and set the record right, then make a time machine and attend the games that weren't filmed. Sheesh.
0:23 reminds me of the music city miricle play shouldve ended at 0:38 look closely his knee was down but the play is over THE BAND IS ON THE FIELD THE BAND IS ON THE FIELD
@iamliltaz For years I thought the same thing, but it actually looks as if his knee landed on #93's arm. If they had instant replay then, it probably would have been inconclusive. Either way, it was a great ending.
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lol at stanford fans debating the legality of the play. sure there are things that are hard to call here and close calls that officials miss for want of the ideal angle. But that's no different from the holding that goes by every other play, or the typically imperfect spots of the ball. But the most glaring penalty was clearly stanford sending its band onto the field. The worst-possible case then is that Cal gets another play and would have scored then. You can't toy with destiny.
Go to 0:39. Knee is down and ball is in his possession. This is the best quality I've seen of "The Play". Really shows that Cal got lucky in this game.
I counted 18 players in on the combined tackles or close. There were 7 defenders on the "knee down tackle, most of those guys were down the field on the other tackles. All decisions were split second with no room for error and counter-intuitive to what one would normally do. Stanford did all the right stuff. The last lateral was totally on instinct. Complete chaos. The 15 yard penalty, the band, the great drive before. the positions of the refs. Luck. Billion to one, but it happened.
there was no player that had his knee down at all,the stanford band gets boneheads of the year award for the decade for being on the field before the game was over.
@tim55bear It doesn't matter if he threw it backwards over his shoulder if his momentum carried the ball forward. That's the only thing that counts. From where the ball left his hands to where it was caught by the next player is all that matters and, in this case, the ball traveled forward by at least one yard. It was an illegal forward pass and the refs missed it as well as the other player's knee being down before he has lateraled the ball.
i'd say it was pretty close that one of the earlier laterals should have been negated because the player's knee was down...but there is no question that the final lateral was not a lateral but an illegal forward pass. look at where the player let go of the ball and where the next player touched the ball. it's almost 2 yards forward. it now totally ruins the play for me.
@ArtMonkforHallofFame I agree with the knee down but the illegal forward pass on the last lateral was perfectly legal. He was behind him the whole time and was never ahead.
@supernaruto12 it is irrelevant where the players are in relation to each other. all that matters is whether the ball traveled forwards when it went from one player to the next. the Cal player let go of the ball between the 27 and 28 yard line and the next Cal player to touch it did so on the 26th. just because the guy who threw it is still in front of the guy who caught it does not make it a lateral. this is CLEARLY a forward pass. the ball traveled forward.
The final lateral was a forward pass, but because the band was out on the field the refs decided to screw any semantics regarding The Play per se and just let it stand, in light of the fact that the damn Stanfurd band had to interfere with The Play to begin with. In the replay age, this does not happen, but then again, bands do not rush the field ever after something like this happening.
So his knee was down, but the lateral was definitely legal (not forward). That however is not even relevant since his knee was down. Stanford got robbed.
Yes, his knee was down but I say they let it count just because the stanford band was arrogant enough to begin the celebration before the game was over!
@SamanthaAnneBalls He's not down if he doesn't have possession. Since he was in the midst of a lateral he wouldn't have possession. Therefore, Touchdown Bears!
@jpferrer Exactly, and later they found out that Stanford had TOO MANY players on the field and why in the FLYING fuck was the band on the field?!?! Legit play.
@SamanthaAnneBalls it's definitely* and he was losing possession as his knee hit because he was getting ready to toss a lateral, so lateral/fumble as knee touched.. the play goes on Cal wins.
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you should just be happy Stanford is playing well right now. They are 3-1 for goodness sake. I don't see why you hold a grudge against the refs in this game. Quit being a sore loser using 20+ accounts to thumb down all the pro-Cal comments. Just face it.. This happened 27 years ago!!! Get over it! Focus on Cal this season.
to me, it looks like the tackler's elbow hits the ground before the lateral, and the runner's knee is on the tackler's arm. at 0:42, at the top of the screen as the players start to unravel, his knee is on top of the tackler. so i don't think he was down when he made the lateral...
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to all tgose who frown on the fact the bears won after 20 years of this... GROW UP! you people always smash the bear people for cheering on their team and just because you guy are too bit*** about losing doesn't mean you have to hate those who like their team.
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Hrrmm...why do I have a sneaking suspicion that abbeywood22 logs on everyday to youtube to every single "The Play" vid to thumb down anyone who disagrees with him?
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And this shows he got the ball out of his hands BEFORE his knee touched the ground. Stanford fans are bitching even 27 years later. That's really sad. Realize already that it was an awesome play. I love how all pro-Cal comments are thumbed down and pro-Stanford comments are thumbed up. Just shows how bitter Stanford fans are, and that they need a life.
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if you fools look at the ball instead of his knee you can clearly see that he let go of the football before he hits the ground you have to watch it a couple times to find that because i thought his knee hit the ground 2 but i watched it a couple times and i looked at the ball instead of his knee and it looked like he got rid of the ball in time
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at the end of the vid he said it all... probably becuase what happen in the end zone... to many flags where thrown against standford.... so it probably ruled every thing else out even though i doubt that could happen today but o well...
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hey everyone, quit cryin about it. it was 27 years ago and you cant go change it now. it went down in the books as a cal win and its not going to change. end of story.
YES way. You watch it again. Are your eyes that great that you can spot his knee being 1/4 inch off of the ground when he tossed the ball? I doubt it. Garner was down--with the ball in his possession--and the officials should have rightfully declared that Stanford was the winner of the game. They blew the call as well as the forward lateral by Ford. The forward lateral was harder to see with the band on the field, but it was still forward and illegal. Your wonderful memory is a fraud.
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I was being facetious about the 1/4 inch thing, but Stanfurd was also flagged during the play for too many men on the field. You cannot end the game on a defensive penalty. That wasn't a forward lateral either. Moen had to twist his body and lean backwards to catch it.
It doesn't matter how much Moen had to twist or lean to catch the ball. The only thing that matters is where the ball was when it left Ford's hands--the 27 1/2 yd line--and where it was when Moen caught it--the 26 yd line. Nothing else matters. There are a lot of cal fans who claim that it was legal because of the wind or forward momentum and that proves the case for Stanford. Leaning, twisting, wind and momentum mean nothing. It's all about the ball. The ball traveled forward and is illegal.
@jayfey77 are you serious? ball is let go between the 28 and 27 and the next guy to touch it did so on the 26. that was 1-2 yards forward. try throwing something out of a moving car...you might be aiming slight backwards but that thing will travel forward because you are moving forward. same thing here.
@jayfey77 you can't possibly be serious. ask yourself: what yardline was the ball when it left the one dude's hand, and what yardline was it on when it was touched by the next person. it's almost 2 yards forward. i realize the internet is where people go crazy with subjective furor but this is pretty clear cut. i'm assuming you are just trying to stir the pot. there's no way you don't see that the ball traveled forward.
there is other people on here who obviously agree with me that he was behind the player when he threw it,so how can he be according to you go yards in front of the guy when the guy that was passing it to him was behind him and throwing it backwards.
@jayfey77 cuz they were both running forward, that's how. but again, stop worrying about where the players are. all that matters is how the ball travels as compared to the field. just look at the ball and the 26 yard line. thrown before the 26, caught over the 26. it's night and day.
@jayfey77 can i get you to admit that the ball traveled forward as a matter of its relationship to the field? that it left one players hand at a certain spot on the field and that it was next touched by a player on Cal FURTHER DOWN the field? will you admit that much?
@Compto88 Hey dick, why don't you go fuck off and go vandalize the shitty cal campus some more to protest the soaring tuition. What a bunch of brain dead assholes! The school's budget is already shot and the idiot students think that by costing the school to spend thousands of dollars for police services and repairs of the vandalism from student protests that it will make things better. No wonder cal has such a bad reputation for morons. You sound like the leader of the idiots. Go blow.
@Compto88 I was just posting my opinion also. However, since you chose to go with the "hey dude fuck off!!!", I knew that I would have to speak to you in your own language. If you had any common sense at all, you would know that game officials are human and they miss calls that end up deciding the outcome of games. It has happened many times and this time it's just more obvious since it was on the final play of the game. If they had made any of the correct calls, Stanford would have won.
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@abbeywood22 You're an idiot! You play till the whistle blows, whistle hadn't blown, ball still in play. Forward lateral, far, far from conclusive in this shot. So sorry, but you guys lost, have your boyfriend tuck you into bed....
@ripperduck You've exposed yourself as the real idiot and you sound like someone who knows a lot about blowing. Possibly from all of your time spent blowing the homeless in dark alleys in Berkeley as your community service for molesting small animals. The point isn't whether the whistle had blown. It's that the officials blew multiple calls on the play. Forward progress was stopped and his knee was down while he had the ball and the final lateral was clearly illegal as the ball traveled forward.
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@abbeywood22 Fuck off ahole. You lost the game and your boyfriend is pining away for your ass. Moron you were the guy who brought up the knee being down. Dumb shit, only till the whistle is blown will that ratify that the ref saw the knee down, and that's who makes the decision. As far as the forward lateral, the clip shows no such thing. Face it, puto, we won, you lost, and it will always be that way. Now go back and lie down next your boyfriend and your dish...
@ripperduck You continue to prove what a clueless idiot you truly are. His knee being down has NOTHING to do with a whistle being blown. It wasn't blown because the officials missed it (as well as the forward lateral) and that is what I'm talking about. Unfortunately, you've done too many drugs and sucked too many cocks to have any brain cells left to understand anything. You must be a cal student because you obviously have shit for brains. You're just a babbling fool, you dumbass. Now fuck off!
No you fucking idiot, he didn't blow because it wasn't down. And furthermore, you play till the whistle blows. You and the rest of the Stanford morons, including the band, seem not to understand that very basic rule. Stanford had plenty of chances to make a play, but couldn't do it because they stopped playing. CAL knew more than you fuckups, kept playing, broke tackles because it seems you guys forgot how to, and then when you had a chance to make on on Moen, your band got...
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@ripperduck in the way. Pussies such as you try to find blame with anyone else except themselves. But you fuckups missed tackles, ran into each other, tripped over your own feet, and when one of you who could have made the tackle, he got blocked by one of your own horn players. That only underscores what a pathetic bunch of pussies you guys were in 1982, and what a pussyboy you are now in 2011.
@abbeywood22 There's an interview with the referee on wikipedia that you can read wherein he says that they could have technically awarded a touchdown to Cal for extra Stanford players being on the field, even if they hadn't scored.
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Even though it does look like CAL really didn't win this game, I'm glad the refs did not catch it because it made such a great news story ( Stanford band on field during play) and historical lore and colorful, creative interesting come from behind victory. It was good for humanity. The only people the bad calls really hurt was Standford and their fans and for that my condolences. But the greater good trumps.
Coming from a person that likes neither of these teams at 0:38 the defenders arm is on the outside of the ballcarriers knee not under it...his leg comes down and makes a jolting stop well before the ball is released and seeing as nothing was under it the ground stopped it...down by contact game over...sry stanford you shoulda won that one
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Looks like at 0:33 the player did not have his knee on the ground yet and was falling onto another player as he released the football, landing on his shoulder as the ball enters the recieving hands.
As far as the lateral goes at 0:50, the player's positions on the fields and when the ball leaves his hands is so amibigous from this video I can't really say. For both parts, however, the ref(s) would have a much, much better view for what happened.
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Actually, it looked like his knee was going to go down, but he fell on a Stanford player which kept his knee up just long enough for him to pitch it back.
Stanford fans can make up these excuses if they like, but even if the lateral wasn't legal (which, I thought it clearly was) or if his knee was down, this is a display of Stanford patheticness (of that game, at least). I'm neither a Golden Bears fan, nor a Stanford fan (obviously). I'm a Mizzou fan, so this is coming from a neutral field.
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heh... if there were replays like there is now... there is no conclusive evidence that his knee was down from all of the camera angles that i have seen... so there it is so all u satnford fans leave it alone and stick with yur bad band performances and drunkin trees, cus WE GOT THE AX (and the best play in college football history)
actually that is very conclusive evidence that his knee was down. i thought the play was legal until i saw this video but he had possesion of the ball when his knee touched. i am not a fan of either team, and it is still an amazing "play", however illegal it may be. good thing they didnt have challenges then =)
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heh... if there was replays back then like there is now from all the camera angles ive seen of the play there is no conclusive evidence that his knee was down... so for u stanford fans leave it alone and stick with your really bad band performances and your drunk tree...CUS WE HAVE THE AX (and the best play in football history)
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peopel still talk about this? fuck enjoy it for what it was and get on with your lives. he was down, no one noticed at the time, touchdown, one tromboner squashed. next clip, please
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Today's drubbing of the Junior University, home of the Hoover Sucks Institute, is in progress, and you rich preppie wimps lost the '82 game, too. Dry your tears with your stock portfolio.
What a beautiful sacrifice by Cal player at :55, can't tell if it's #1 or 4, he took a plethora of Stanford players with him.
pereirahawk 1 week ago
He was down at 0:40...
Justinbieberslover2 1 month ago
Looking at the replay I do now think the knee was down before the lateral. However it is a given that referees are going to miss some calls and Stanford still had a chance to tackle the guy and actually appeared to give up towards the end of the play (look at #84). California 25, Stanford 20. Thanks goodness we now have instant replay.
vanhouten64 1 month ago
Almost as cool as rugby. They do this all the time.
saxophonehero 2 months ago
1. He's clearly down
2. Why don't American Football teams pass more often?
3. You guys'd like Rugby League.
jimmybob12 2 months ago
if he was down, then why did Cal win?
LilKepi 2 months ago
@LilKepi Because the refs didn't have the capability of reviewing plays back then. From what I could see, it appeared he was down before the ball left his hands. Still, not sure if it was "indisputable, video evidence"......
GeorgiaKev 1 month ago
Lol, college football refs don't care about the actual call. They just hope they get out with their lives, considering what the fans would do if he made the call against them.
Thezapper41 2 months ago
Go Cal! Beat Stanford.
PJammaz 2 months ago
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Final "Set-in-Memorial Stadium-Concrete-Forever" 1982 Big Game Score:
CALIFORNIA GOLDEN BEARS 25,
stanfurd junior college BAND 20....
enuf said all you stanfurd crybabes!!!...
Ha!ha!ha!...LOL.¬¬..GO BEARS!!!!
localboy333 2 months ago
his knew was down only after the ball had already left his finger tips. Cal 25, Stanford 20.
mega408 2 months ago 3
@mega408 You must be joking. Even without the benefit of HD it's very obvious he was down. And I have no dog in this fight whatsoever as I'm not a fan or enemy of either school.
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I was there. The trombone guy who got knocked over (Tyrone?) had played football before, maybe in high school, that was a funny part of the whole thing...Stanford thought they had won the game until "The Play" occured. That was why the band was on the field in the final seconds. All right now, baby its all right now??
scoobydo0214 2 months ago
I have seen this play so many times and I still can't believe it happened.
Tony63909 2 months ago
yeah his knee was down.. but guess what. it's never going to change that cal won.
goalkeepingstud 2 months ago
his knee is down ....we ALL see it
mclean2010 3 months ago
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katparkerphotography 3 months ago
Lol at 1:06!!
OrangeSodaKing 3 months ago
isnt 26 the guy who started off with the ball, and then he ends up scoring???
jak2me 3 months ago
And that's why LSJUMB makes fun of people...to keep from facing the truth that their most famous moment will always be when one of their band members got his trombone shoved down his throat by Kevin Moen.
HIS FOOT WAS DOWN! WAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!! ah, shut up.
BlackLeather92 3 months ago
Stanford fans can shut the fuck up. this was, and always will be the greatest play of all time. suck it up, stop fucking trolling because cal obviously won, and watch the god damn legendary video. Go bears.
prodigypwn 3 months ago
One of the best things I have ever seen.
visceraldragon 4 months ago
who gives a fuck...you gotta play the whistle, the most basic advice in sports. Too fucking bad stanford
ToLookFoRiT 4 months ago
You can find the story behind "The Play" on Wikipedia. Apparently I can't post the link nor can I post it without h t t p in from of it. So search Wikipedia for The Play and you will find it.
londubh2007 4 months ago
Both knees were on the ground. Still an incredible play though.
tomersde 5 months ago
What is the music in the background?
anansylvar 5 months ago
Awesome! I was at this game as a Cal sophomore! We kicked Stanford and John Elway's asses!
whm5609 5 months ago
Why is the band on the field......
yourtheworstyet 5 months ago
@yourtheworstyet they thought it was over but it wasnt
usa1327 4 months ago
I replayed this play many times at around the 38 sec mark and I use to think it was down, but cant be for certain. Why I say that is they may classify the "lateral" as a fumble as he never clearly had possession of the ball when his knee was down although was still touching it. The ball was moving prior to the knee touching. Its a call that goes both ways IMO.
wwepatriot1 6 months ago
His knee was on top of the defender. Not down.
STLIsWhereItsAt 7 months ago
we cant tell if he knee is down because of the quality of the camera... maybe the ball popped out before he touched but we cant tell
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BrianXWing 8 months ago
All of you chill the fuck out. Win or lose both teams played phenominal. It was a long time ago. Great game to both teams... Now its over!
swizzbeats222 9 months ago
The ball is a funny shape, anyone else notice?
harrysboy 10 months ago
Brilliant play, not only did the Cal Football team beat Stanford, they also beat up the band !!! Brilliant!
4JayeP 10 months ago
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@abbeywood22 look up 'Cal - Stanford 1982 Big Game' at about 55 seconds stanford makes a play and he was actually out of bounds so technically cal won the game so suck on that
dabomb2272 1 year ago
wow numer 26 had the bal first on kick off and had it last weird huh and i agree with HxCUNstopABLE his knee was down wat retard refs
2MinutesNwonderland 1 year ago
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Ruling on the field stands. Problem, Stanford?
abrahamcat 1 year ago
0:39 KNEE IS ON THE GROUND YA DUMB FUCKTARDS!!
HxCUNstopABLE 1 year ago 3
@HxCUNstopABLE false
frankiebob123 3 months ago
@HxCUNstopABLE Not true experts have zoomed in super close and they saw that it wasnt't/
RobloxianSliddet 3 months ago
@HxCUNstopABLE but he didn't have control of the ball at that point, therefore no possession, therefore LIVE BALL BITCHES.
CAL FOREVER! GET OWNED STANFORD!
PresentingHilarious 2 months ago
@HxCUNstopABLE Yeah, right after the ball left his hands...haha
TofuSnow 2 months ago
obviously he was down and it was a forward pass, how bout the "140" or whatever get the hell over it, not the first time a blown call cost a game, besides stanford deserved it, they deserved to have 5 blown calls for havin their damn band on the field before the game was over, oh well i guess thats what you expect out of pac-10 football
CottonDot1 1 year ago
Dude was down at 0:38. Game over.
miamad 1 year ago 7
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@Except Stanford's band was on the field, so Cal would have gotten an extra play because a game can't end on a defensive penalty. So who knows what would have happened?
arstef90 1 year ago
@miamad obviously a mad Stanford fan. Also, are you retarded?
frankiebob123 3 months ago
@miamad
You mad bro?
Amoore535 1 month ago
@miamad They didn't have instant replay & review back then.
Using your logic, we'd have about 80 years of every NFL and college football game ever played being wrong.
You know the greatest comeback in NFL history? (Bill vs. Oilers, 1992) A Bills player clearly steps out of bounds on a TD run, of course the refs didn't catch it.
You had better go watch every tape back to the 1940's and set the record right, then make a time machine and attend the games that weren't filmed. Sheesh.
TheDeJureTour 1 week ago
0:23 reminds me of the music city miricle play shouldve ended at 0:38 look closely his knee was down but the play is over THE BAND IS ON THE FIELD THE BAND IS ON THE FIELD
iamliltaz 1 year ago
@iamliltaz For years I thought the same thing, but it actually looks as if his knee landed on #93's arm. If they had instant replay then, it probably would have been inconclusive. Either way, it was a great ending.
MrCombat1965 1 year ago
@iamliltaz I don't know how &39 got in there. I didn't type that.
MrCombat1965 1 year ago
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This video is the only thing that makes me happy when we lose! Go Bears!!!
previnsnaidu1 1 year ago
hope he didnt fuck up the kid's instrument
MrCelloNinja 1 year ago
Stanford player's knee was down. Final lateral was actually a forward pass. Jordan pushed off Russell.
Oh well. Still makes for fun sports history. Let it go, it's been 28 years.
MaxwellSDSU 1 year ago
ha he hurt one of the band guys
hunterBskatin 1 year ago
the only person that was tackled was one of those band memebers at 1:10
wwc222 1 year ago
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lol at stanford fans debating the legality of the play. sure there are things that are hard to call here and close calls that officials miss for want of the ideal angle. But that's no different from the holding that goes by every other play, or the typically imperfect spots of the ball. But the most glaring penalty was clearly stanford sending its band onto the field. The worst-possible case then is that Cal gets another play and would have scored then. You can't toy with destiny.
yobretto 1 year ago
Go to 0:39. Knee is down and ball is in his possession. This is the best quality I've seen of "The Play". Really shows that Cal got lucky in this game.
epirgj12 1 year ago 7
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lucky is putting it lightly, the whole play was lucky lol, THE BAND'S ON THE FIELD! THE BAND'S ON THE FIELD!
ByronPolo11 1 year ago
wtf why are there band members on the field ?
billebyriel 1 year ago
@billebyriel They thought the game was over
KyuuA4 1 year ago
The Most Amazing, Sensational, Dramatic, Heart-rending, Exciting, Thrilling finish in the history of college football!
SonoftheSands 1 year ago
if you slow it right down you will see the first play isn't even a lateral..
harrysboy 1 year ago
The Play that keeps on stinging furdballs for generations. Love it!!
DBear87 1 year ago
This is great every time.
JuniperSprouts 1 year ago
He's stealing the padding !!!!
nbtyuiop 1 year ago
I counted 18 players in on the combined tackles or close. There were 7 defenders on the "knee down tackle, most of those guys were down the field on the other tackles. All decisions were split second with no room for error and counter-intuitive to what one would normally do. Stanford did all the right stuff. The last lateral was totally on instinct. Complete chaos. The 15 yard penalty, the band, the great drive before. the positions of the refs. Luck. Billion to one, but it happened.
johnnowa1953 1 year ago
there was no player that had his knee down at all,the stanford band gets boneheads of the year award for the decade for being on the field before the game was over.
jayfey77 1 year ago
Ford threw it backwards, over his shoulder...end of story. TD Bears!!
tim55bear 1 year ago
@tim55bear It doesn't matter if he threw it backwards over his shoulder if his momentum carried the ball forward. That's the only thing that counts. From where the ball left his hands to where it was caught by the next player is all that matters and, in this case, the ball traveled forward by at least one yard. It was an illegal forward pass and the refs missed it as well as the other player's knee being down before he has lateraled the ball.
abbeywood22 1 year ago
GO BEARS
dodgerdynasty1988 1 year ago
Stanford gets gawked in the ass!!! ha Ha ha
Anymajordude5 1 year ago
i'd say it was pretty close that one of the earlier laterals should have been negated because the player's knee was down...but there is no question that the final lateral was not a lateral but an illegal forward pass. look at where the player let go of the ball and where the next player touched the ball. it's almost 2 yards forward. it now totally ruins the play for me.
ArtMonkforHallofFame 1 year ago 3
@ArtMonkforHallofFame I agree with the knee down but the illegal forward pass on the last lateral was perfectly legal. He was behind him the whole time and was never ahead.
supernaruto12 1 year ago
@supernaruto12 it is irrelevant where the players are in relation to each other. all that matters is whether the ball traveled forwards when it went from one player to the next. the Cal player let go of the ball between the 27 and 28 yard line and the next Cal player to touch it did so on the 26th. just because the guy who threw it is still in front of the guy who caught it does not make it a lateral. this is CLEARLY a forward pass. the ball traveled forward.
ArtMonkforHallofFame 1 year ago 3
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The band is on the field............. Greatest college football play EVER. Go Bears!
buddha8000 2 years ago
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His knee was NOT on the ground. The Stanford tackler's arm was between his knee and the turf.
wftjet 2 years ago
The final lateral was a forward pass, but because the band was out on the field the refs decided to screw any semantics regarding The Play per se and just let it stand, in light of the fact that the damn Stanfurd band had to interfere with The Play to begin with. In the replay age, this does not happen, but then again, bands do not rush the field ever after something like this happening.
Strykur 2 years ago
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To the comment.. "The final lateral was a forward pass". I completely disagree, that final lateral looks nothing like a forward pass to me.
pawndering 2 years ago
So his knee was down, but the lateral was definitely legal (not forward). That however is not even relevant since his knee was down. Stanford got robbed.
SkylineToTheSeaAndMe 2 years ago 34
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haha. stanfraud ppl are so bitter about this. hurts to lose, doesn't it? We'VE GOT THE AXE!!!!
aznfootwork 2 years ago
pause it at 0:39 his knee was down. If they had replay back then, tthis play wouldn't be famous.
memphisblues78 2 years ago 60
It's likely the knee was down, but football replay booth would have to call this 'inconclusive'... unless they had better quality picture...
san77vb 2 years ago
yap
logofowler 5 months ago
@memphisblues78 of course itd be famous the band was on the field you dumbass
usc384 4 months ago 5
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Stanford gives Cal good head.
trojantjl 2 years ago
Yes, his knee was down but I say they let it count just because the stanford band was arrogant enough to begin the celebration before the game was over!
dorsal08 2 years ago
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too late. your dead
carlossantiago1987 2 years ago
his knee was definatley down
SamanthaAnneBalls 2 years ago 63
@SamanthaAnneBalls I bet ur from Stanford....
miccidudedavid 9 months ago
@SamanthaAnneBalls go cry to yr mama
GREENNBLACKNINJA 8 months ago
@SamanthaAnneBalls He's not down if he doesn't have possession. Since he was in the midst of a lateral he wouldn't have possession. Therefore, Touchdown Bears!
jpferrer 6 months ago
@jpferrer Exactly, and later they found out that Stanford had TOO MANY players on the field and why in the FLYING fuck was the band on the field?!?! Legit play.
dogolog22 4 months ago
@SamanthaAnneBalls it's definitely* and he was losing possession as his knee hit because he was getting ready to toss a lateral, so lateral/fumble as knee touched.. the play goes on Cal wins.
MPaluba 3 months ago
@SamanthaAnneBalls & Cal definitely won.
cactus337 3 months ago
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screw Stan-furd....
rollercoasterfweak 2 years ago
Screw rollercoasterfweak....
abbeywood22 2 years ago 38
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you should just be happy Stanford is playing well right now. They are 3-1 for goodness sake. I don't see why you hold a grudge against the refs in this game. Quit being a sore loser using 20+ accounts to thumb down all the pro-Cal comments. Just face it.. This happened 27 years ago!!! Get over it! Focus on Cal this season.
rollercoasterfweak 2 years ago
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to me, it looks like the tackler's elbow hits the ground before the lateral, and the runner's knee is on the tackler's arm. at 0:42, at the top of the screen as the players start to unravel, his knee is on top of the tackler. so i don't think he was down when he made the lateral...
msukevyou 2 years ago
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Fuck Stanford
Hope2009pc 2 years ago
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Fuck Stanford
Hope2009pc 2 years ago
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Fuck Stanford
Hope2009pc 2 years ago
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Fuck Stanford
Hope2009pc 2 years ago
And you say that Stanford students need to grow up???
abbeywood22 2 years ago 45
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Thanks.. I knew I would get somebody. Just having some fun.... I have nothing against Stanford actually.
Hope2009pc 2 years ago
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Fuck Stanford
Hope2009pc 2 years ago
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Fuck Stanford
Hope2009pc 2 years ago
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Fuck Stanford
Hope2009pc 2 years ago
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Fuck Stanford
Hope2009pc 2 years ago
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Hope2009pc 2 years ago
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Hope2009pc 2 years ago
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Fuck Stanford
Hope2009pc 2 years ago
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yea Bears!
rollercoasterfweak 2 years ago
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to all tgose who frown on the fact the bears won after 20 years of this... GROW UP! you people always smash the bear people for cheering on their team and just because you guy are too bit*** about losing doesn't mean you have to hate those who like their team.
TheAnonomus1 2 years ago
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Hrrmm...why do I have a sneaking suspicion that abbeywood22 logs on everyday to youtube to every single "The Play" vid to thumb down anyone who disagrees with him?
*shrugs* Oh well.
tennisnutter1987 2 years ago
thats edited
jackman898 2 years ago
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This commentary from their fans goes to show that the biggest SORE LOSERS of all time is: STANFORD
gabullstud 2 years ago
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And this shows he got the ball out of his hands BEFORE his knee touched the ground. Stanford fans are bitching even 27 years later. That's really sad. Realize already that it was an awesome play. I love how all pro-Cal comments are thumbed down and pro-Stanford comments are thumbed up. Just shows how bitter Stanford fans are, and that they need a life.
Jayhawks147 2 years ago
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It really is, dude.
I think Furd's little pressure buttons just popped and are using the Internets to throw a shit fit.
Swamphunter 2 years ago
Did this play really happen ?
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gmlorusso 2 years ago
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if you fools look at the ball instead of his knee you can clearly see that he let go of the football before he hits the ground you have to watch it a couple times to find that because i thought his knee hit the ground 2 but i watched it a couple times and i looked at the ball instead of his knee and it looked like he got rid of the ball in time
7isanumber 2 years ago
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at the end of the vid he said it all... probably becuase what happen in the end zone... to many flags where thrown against standford.... so it probably ruled every thing else out even though i doubt that could happen today but o well...
breakerboy9 2 years ago
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hey everyone, quit cryin about it. it was 27 years ago and you cant go change it now. it went down in the books as a cal win and its not going to change. end of story.
IrishLd4 2 years ago
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NO way. Watch it again. His knee was at least 1/4 inch above the ground before he tosses it. :) GO BEARS
wftjet 2 years ago
YES way. You watch it again. Are your eyes that great that you can spot his knee being 1/4 inch off of the ground when he tossed the ball? I doubt it. Garner was down--with the ball in his possession--and the officials should have rightfully declared that Stanford was the winner of the game. They blew the call as well as the forward lateral by Ford. The forward lateral was harder to see with the band on the field, but it was still forward and illegal. Your wonderful memory is a fraud.
abbeywood22 2 years ago 116
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I was being facetious about the 1/4 inch thing, but Stanfurd was also flagged during the play for too many men on the field. You cannot end the game on a defensive penalty. That wasn't a forward lateral either. Moen had to twist his body and lean backwards to catch it.
wftjet 2 years ago
It doesn't matter how much Moen had to twist or lean to catch the ball. The only thing that matters is where the ball was when it left Ford's hands--the 27 1/2 yd line--and where it was when Moen caught it--the 26 yd line. Nothing else matters. There are a lot of cal fans who claim that it was legal because of the wind or forward momentum and that proves the case for Stanford. Leaning, twisting, wind and momentum mean nothing. It's all about the ball. The ball traveled forward and is illegal.
abbeywood22 2 years ago 140
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/the cardinal madw some illegals like catchubg the bakk by the player going into the field
trojantjl 2 years ago
What??? Please translate your comment into English and repost. It's never too late to learn how to spell.
abbeywood22 2 years ago 126
the ball didnt travel forward i dont know what video you are watching.
jayfey77 1 year ago
@jayfey77 are you serious? ball is let go between the 28 and 27 and the next guy to touch it did so on the 26. that was 1-2 yards forward. try throwing something out of a moving car...you might be aiming slight backwards but that thing will travel forward because you are moving forward. same thing here.
ArtMonkforHallofFame 1 year ago
he isnt just aiming backwards he is also behind the player so you are wrong.
jayfey77 1 year ago
@jayfey77 you can't possibly be serious. ask yourself: what yardline was the ball when it left the one dude's hand, and what yardline was it on when it was touched by the next person. it's almost 2 yards forward. i realize the internet is where people go crazy with subjective furor but this is pretty clear cut. i'm assuming you are just trying to stir the pot. there's no way you don't see that the ball traveled forward.
ArtMonkforHallofFame 1 year ago
there is other people on here who obviously agree with me that he was behind the player when he threw it,so how can he be according to you go yards in front of the guy when the guy that was passing it to him was behind him and throwing it backwards.
jayfey77 1 year ago
@jayfey77 cuz they were both running forward, that's how. but again, stop worrying about where the players are. all that matters is how the ball travels as compared to the field. just look at the ball and the 26 yard line. thrown before the 26, caught over the 26. it's night and day.
ArtMonkforHallofFame 1 year ago
doesnt matter if they were both running forward because he was behind the other player that was throwing the ball.
jayfey77 1 year ago
@jayfey77 can i get you to admit that the ball traveled forward as a matter of its relationship to the field? that it left one players hand at a certain spot on the field and that it was next touched by a player on Cal FURTHER DOWN the field? will you admit that much?
ArtMonkforHallofFame 1 year ago 3
@abbeywood22 dude its clearly behind him. from where 26 is holding the ball its on the 28. and where 5 catches it, it is clearly on the 26
JOBOB335 1 year ago
@abbeywood22 NEVERMIND
JOBOB335 1 year ago
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@abbeywood22 hey dude fuck off!!! it already happened and i think the refs would be smart enough to call it
Compto88 1 year ago
@Compto88 Hey dick, why don't you go fuck off and go vandalize the shitty cal campus some more to protest the soaring tuition. What a bunch of brain dead assholes! The school's budget is already shot and the idiot students think that by costing the school to spend thousands of dollars for police services and repairs of the vandalism from student protests that it will make things better. No wonder cal has such a bad reputation for morons. You sound like the leader of the idiots. Go blow.
abbeywood22 1 year ago
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@abbeywood22 whoaa dude go take your pills i was just sayin my opinion
Compto88 1 year ago
@Compto88 I was just posting my opinion also. However, since you chose to go with the "hey dude fuck off!!!", I knew that I would have to speak to you in your own language. If you had any common sense at all, you would know that game officials are human and they miss calls that end up deciding the outcome of games. It has happened many times and this time it's just more obvious since it was on the final play of the game. If they had made any of the correct calls, Stanford would have won.
abbeywood22 1 year ago
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@abbeywood22 You're an idiot! You play till the whistle blows, whistle hadn't blown, ball still in play. Forward lateral, far, far from conclusive in this shot. So sorry, but you guys lost, have your boyfriend tuck you into bed....
ripperduck 11 months ago
@ripperduck You've exposed yourself as the real idiot and you sound like someone who knows a lot about blowing. Possibly from all of your time spent blowing the homeless in dark alleys in Berkeley as your community service for molesting small animals. The point isn't whether the whistle had blown. It's that the officials blew multiple calls on the play. Forward progress was stopped and his knee was down while he had the ball and the final lateral was clearly illegal as the ball traveled forward.
abbeywood22 11 months ago
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@abbeywood22 Fuck off ahole. You lost the game and your boyfriend is pining away for your ass. Moron you were the guy who brought up the knee being down. Dumb shit, only till the whistle is blown will that ratify that the ref saw the knee down, and that's who makes the decision. As far as the forward lateral, the clip shows no such thing. Face it, puto, we won, you lost, and it will always be that way. Now go back and lie down next your boyfriend and your dish...
ripperduck 11 months ago
@ripperduck You continue to prove what a clueless idiot you truly are. His knee being down has NOTHING to do with a whistle being blown. It wasn't blown because the officials missed it (as well as the forward lateral) and that is what I'm talking about. Unfortunately, you've done too many drugs and sucked too many cocks to have any brain cells left to understand anything. You must be a cal student because you obviously have shit for brains. You're just a babbling fool, you dumbass. Now fuck off!
abbeywood22 11 months ago
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@abbeywood22
No you fucking idiot, he didn't blow because it wasn't down. And furthermore, you play till the whistle blows. You and the rest of the Stanford morons, including the band, seem not to understand that very basic rule. Stanford had plenty of chances to make a play, but couldn't do it because they stopped playing. CAL knew more than you fuckups, kept playing, broke tackles because it seems you guys forgot how to, and then when you had a chance to make on on Moen, your band got...
ripperduck 11 months ago
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ripperduck 11 months ago
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@ripperduck in the way. Pussies such as you try to find blame with anyone else except themselves. But you fuckups missed tackles, ran into each other, tripped over your own feet, and when one of you who could have made the tackle, he got blocked by one of your own horn players. That only underscores what a pathetic bunch of pussies you guys were in 1982, and what a pussyboy you are now in 2011.
ripperduck 11 months ago
@abbeywood22 There's an interview with the referee on wikipedia that you can read wherein he says that they could have technically awarded a touchdown to Cal for extra Stanford players being on the field, even if they hadn't scored.
HPAndranix 11 months ago
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Cal won because all the flags st the end of the game went against Stznford.
trojantjl 2 years ago
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Even though it does look like CAL really didn't win this game, I'm glad the refs did not catch it because it made such a great news story ( Stanford band on field during play) and historical lore and colorful, creative interesting come from behind victory. It was good for humanity. The only people the bad calls really hurt was Standford and their fans and for that my condolences. But the greater good trumps.
upstart555 2 years ago
Coming from a person that likes neither of these teams at 0:38 the defenders arm is on the outside of the ballcarriers knee not under it...his leg comes down and makes a jolting stop well before the ball is released and seeing as nothing was under it the ground stopped it...down by contact game over...sry stanford you shoulda won that one
crazykskid 3 years ago 104
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Looks like at 0:33 the player did not have his knee on the ground yet and was falling onto another player as he released the football, landing on his shoulder as the ball enters the recieving hands.
As far as the lateral goes at 0:50, the player's positions on the fields and when the ball leaves his hands is so amibigous from this video I can't really say. For both parts, however, the ref(s) would have a much, much better view for what happened.
Where is that damn time machine?
DragoonKain19 3 years ago
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But... maybe we have undisputable video evidence of the Cal paying off the refs? :P
DragoonKain19 3 years ago
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who cares GO CAL!!!!!
KingKeat118 3 years ago
omg replay confirms knee was down 10 damn minutes b4 he through it! lol u could clearly see tht his knee was down
seamon304 3 years ago 110
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Actually, it looked like his knee was going to go down, but he fell on a Stanford player which kept his knee up just long enough for him to pitch it back.
Stanford fans can make up these excuses if they like, but even if the lateral wasn't legal (which, I thought it clearly was) or if his knee was down, this is a display of Stanford patheticness (of that game, at least). I'm neither a Golden Bears fan, nor a Stanford fan (obviously). I'm a Mizzou fan, so this is coming from a neutral field.
Miroku6510 3 years ago
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heh... if there were replays like there is now... there is no conclusive evidence that his knee was down from all of the camera angles that i have seen... so there it is so all u satnford fans leave it alone and stick with yur bad band performances and drunkin trees, cus WE GOT THE AX (and the best play in college football history)
7isanumber 3 years ago
actually that is very conclusive evidence that his knee was down. i thought the play was legal until i saw this video but he had possesion of the ball when his knee touched. i am not a fan of either team, and it is still an amazing "play", however illegal it may be. good thing they didnt have challenges then =)
bobboberiny 3 years ago 103
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heh... if there was replays back then like there is now from all the camera angles ive seen of the play there is no conclusive evidence that his knee was down... so for u stanford fans leave it alone and stick with your really bad band performances and your drunk tree...CUS WE HAVE THE AX (and the best play in football history)
7isanumber 3 years ago
his knee was down. but im glad they didnt see it that was funny
Dean5629 3 years ago 64
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One of the great plays in college football.
joesakic91 3 years ago
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Final Score:
CALIFORNIA 25, stanford BAND 20....Ha!ha!ha!...LOL...GO BEARS!!!!
localboy333 3 years ago
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peopel still talk about this? fuck enjoy it for what it was and get on with your lives. he was down, no one noticed at the time, touchdown, one tromboner squashed. next clip, please
puckeater8 3 years ago
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Hey, someone clarify for me, since I'm not a big football fan.
It looked like all the passes were caught behind the passer, so why is there such a big fuss?
tennisnutter1987 3 years ago
40 seconds his knee was down!
Rsc00kies 3 years ago 93
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Today's drubbing of the Junior University, home of the Hoover Sucks Institute, is in progress, and you rich preppie wimps lost the '82 game, too. Dry your tears with your stock portfolio.
slownoman 3 years ago
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