I like where Ford is going with the Mustang. Given it's good chassis as a foundation, sharing components with higher tier performance models and having a more livelier engine are great places to start. Next they should look into engineering weight reduction, not just on the body itself, but also on the interior as well. The price might go up due to this, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a Ford Racing V6 'stang in the near future.
Is it weird that I'm more excited about the new 3.7 than the 5.0? Seems like 412hp is more power than you could really use on a street without getting into some serious trouble...305 hp will let you wind out the gears a little more without doing 100+mph in 2 seconds :P
it will be a 5.0 V8... a 6.2 will just make it nose heavy.
now, the only thing left for ford to truly win the pony car wars is to have an IRS... then there wouldn't be any bitching from automotive sites and publications, instead they'd just need to bow to the greatness of the mustang's awesomeness forever... or until chev and dodge take their full size sedan based ponies and put them on a diet! haha.
@attananightshadow well, most mustang drivers prefer drag racing, which solid rear axle is good for. plus, adding an IRS would increase the price by $5000, and the mustang's best part is it's cheap price
i'm a mustang driver and owner, owned 86 and 91 5.0L and currently a 2001 4.6L...
not everyone drag races, i did with my 86 whenever the street legals were scheduled, but i'm willing to bet that over 90% of mustang owners never take their cars to a drag strip, much like almost all SUV owners never go offroading.
it's cost cutting, pure and simple. saying it's catering to drag racers that's less than 10% of their customers is not truthful.
@attananightshadow forget what i said. i mean, like, maybe not all mustang owners drag race, but i din't see a reason to have a IRS. an IRS is good if you're into circuit racing, but it
s not really necessary for a mustang to have one. it's cheap price is it's main selling point
getting excited, cause if the v6 gets power boost, the v8 is getting a power boost and thats exactly what ive been waiting on. hopefully the 400hp 6.2 from the ford raptor.
I don't really consider the Mustangs from the '80s and '90s real muscle cars. Sure they had good performance engines but they were trying to modernize the body styles and they barley represented the Mustangs of the past.
I agree with you... Its mostly because the mustang from the 80's and early 90's were shaped around an economic crisis.. Not as bad as the one we are recovering from right now, but that was when Mercedes launched the C-class and Honda with the civic, accord, Camry, corolla and all of those economy friendly cars.. Before the 70's It was all muscle, I'll bet they would shove a 350 V8 in damn Smart if those were around..
Yea, they were trying to compete with the rising foreign brands. I'm a big supporter for the American auto industry. Getting out of this economic crisis is hurting us but I think we will pull through.
i already have. the old v6 stang was junk. this one actually looks fun to drive. what makes me laugh is that the Mustang GT has only 11 more horse power
Well im not getting too exited about it. Im sure Ford will use the excuse of its high MPG to power ratio to boost its base price from the mid $20's to $30-40K.. If they actually made this car lighter with and using active suspension systems... it would be an embarrassment to the base corvette...
The amount of 2010 owners are minimal vs 2011,12,13 owners. If those owners bought a V6 they probably weren't that interested in performance to begin with since they could have bought a Camaro with more power at the time.
For comparison the base V6 Camaro starting price is $22680. The Mustang has always been cheaper than the Camaro.
The Camaro can't touch the mustang on performance, options, price and gas mileage.
Wait for the 5.0 to return the Camaro SS is done for same scenario will play out
Camaro will be slower next year, true, but historically the Z28 was always faster than the Mustang. And the 2002 SS could beat an 02 Mustang GT......but I agree, next year, its another update that uphold the rule of the King, the Mustang.
thats a tad overpricing. i would guess it will start in the mid 25-28's. i totally think its worth it. plus if your worried about slow you can always turbo it.
why would they? remember this is the volume seller, not the special edition 30-40k...lol. the 2010 GT starts at 28k, the mustangs already hurting as it is, because of the camaro better price and 8 years of pet-up demand.
Well because its simply superior in terms of gas miles.. If you own a car and has to commute every day driving about 200 miles a week.. eventually you will get tired of constantly pulling into a gas station.. With this kind of improvement Ford has every right to raise its price, buying a mustang was never a good investment until 2010..
ford has repetitively said, the 6.2 is going to stay in the heavy duty f series trucks and raptor. they also said that, it is to big to fit in the mustangs engine bay. a jump of 500hp in the GT is just to big
The lighter weight of the V6 3.7 vs the current GT means that it produces more torque per pound than 2010 GT. Power is only relevant when understood in relation to weight. Ive driven the 3.7 at the HSTT in Romeo with the new 6 spd. The acceleration is more like something youd feel in a light sport scar, very quick, instant power. The lower torque allows a lighter crankshaft than in the 10 GT, and in turn lower rotational weight which creates a more instantaneous power delivery.
that also has to do with the gearing, did you drove the optional track pack or just a regular pony? i do agree that this v6 has better power to weight ration than the 2010GT, but theres no denying the 2010GT's power. specially the track pack GT, i would expect Regular GT performance for this 3.7. But not track pack GT 1/4 mile performance
Ah, the Romeo Engine Plant, the proving grounds, and the Peach Festival... The best part of that town. The School is very crowded for the amount of kids we have though. I would know, I live about 10 min. away and go to it.
What i was kinda getting at is why did they not put the SHO motor in the stang?
the SHO does 14 flat in the 1/4, -throw it in the mustang -subtract 1000lbs add a set of slicks and run the hell outta it. I'd really love to see em throw a set of "twins" on the new 5.0. That'd be sick.
if the SHO engine was used in the mustang it would take sales away from the V8 mustangs. Maybe this engine could be used in a new SVO/SVT version of the mustang along with an ecoboost four cylinder engine, aimed at the import sports car market going up against the WRX, EVO,370Z and genesis coupe while the naturally aspirated 3.7 V6, new V8 and shelby version take on the muscle car market?
The Mustang is in the same catagory as the 370Z and Genesis coupe. The 370Z is a little faster than the 2010 GT, but its gonna get the brakes beat off it for 2011.
No need to even compare it to a WRX or a EVO cause its not a 4 door sedan and AWD.
claiming that the Japanese have been doing it for 16 years is a stretch
The 2JZ-GE only produced 220hp N/A with no turbos no body likes to talk about that engine. The turbo supra was not cheap based on inflation the car would be over 60k today,
In 99 you could of gotten a V8 mustang for less than 30k with more than 300HP. They where called cobras.
possibly, possibly not. Mazda & Ford have a really good alliance and offten share and use each others technology and tweek it to their wants. Mazda especially greatful to Ford for saving them from bankruptsy, i think it was in the 80's.
I wonder why they didn't put the 3.5TT 355hp ecoboost in it? Why be competitive when you could hand the camaro it's ass? Not only that but the 3.5tt gets 25mpg in the SHO/MKS which weights 1000lbs more than the stang, so the economy would be close if not better than the 3.7!?! At least the 4.0 finally died.
If want a performance car with a V6 (or I6) just get a 370z, G37, Lexus IS350, BMW 328i/335i.
Sure they are more expensive cars but I personally think it makes no sense to get a pony car that's not a V8. My friend and his father, owners of a 2000 Ford Taurus SHO, '87 supercharged Mustang GT, 2001 Mustang GT, and a 2008 Ford Shelby GT500 both agree its V8 or nothing. I'd take their word as they are hardcore Ford fans.
The fact that they are hardcore Ford fans means that you should definitely NOT take their word on anything regarding Ford products as absolute. Bias my friend is a concept our society learns and rampantly ignores (perhaps like everything else our public school system shovels into our non-productive society). Regardless, if you want a true deciding opinion, ask someone who isn't biased, especially since your acquaintances own older model cars that are inferior and outdated, lacking comparison.
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You can polish up a turd all you want, but its still a turd. this Mustang is nothin special. Classic ford, good engine surrounded by garbage. That ecoboost shit is just a regular old turbo, they call it ecoboost to market it, cuz everyones going green these days.
Take yourself to the dealer and sit in one of these cars. The interior is LIGHTYEARS ahead of what the interior use to be. I've owned a 03 and 04 Cobra and the interior was nothing compared to these cars.
The Mustang does not have Ecoboost. There is a rumor that the 2012 GT500 is will be twin turbo though.
@EvilCerealBoX haha no way my man... if ur getting 28mpg hwy your not enjoy the car. dont get me wrong i can get close to 30's but that doing 60mph. hwy is 80mph+ driving. also my ls1 gto is only rated to 26mpg hwy... and the 05-06 are 23 mpg hwy.
OMG!!! this is an awesome car. it beats the camaro v6 but can it beat the hyundai genesis coupe v6. i'd probably still have this because its a mustang
ford screwed themselves on this one. The v6 makes more power than the v8 so no one is going to buy the v8. Its a nice car but a stupid decision by ford.
I thought so too, but I found out that ford is going to bring back the 5.0L V-8 and that monster is going to make over 400HP. Not bad. They are doing all of this to keep up with Chevrolet and their Camaro Line-up.
It's modern muscle, not classic muscle! If they wan't to make a car launch and go around turns impressively then let them. I know I'll be trading in my 08 for the 2011
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for fuck's sake, stop making muscle cars into performance cars! i mean, a V6? you wanna a muscle and still use your miles, is that it? WTF is wrong with you? 305 HP? you can get more out of a baby's turd!
Really? I do aggree that it competes better with the camaro than the last 20 yrs of mustangs as far as performance goes. But mustangs 6's or 8's have been more affordable than camaros. Performance almost wins, but lower Price with similar performance beats the competition. But if I had the money, I would also get both! Fun daily drivers that have a back seat! Great Cars!
the first ford mustang in 20 years that is actually is a competitor for a camaro, i don't like the new styling as much as the last mustang, but it is still nice, but i'de still rather have the camaro, but if i had the money, i'de buy both
god damn it...i just got the new v6 mustang and it has NONe of that. 305 hp? 3.7 liters? 30 mpg?? wtf?????! why AFTEr i purchase it.....qw;ilhj;slfjsdfSDF
It just go's to show that you need not deep pockets to have deep fun. 300 hp plus a few tweeks that most mustang owners will do, along with a stock LSD that spells big fun!
30 MPG's my 02' SVT Focus is about that same.
FORD get ride of the Live axle and spring for better handling.
it says 2011 so it's possible to come out late fall of 2010, but even if it comes out in 2011, i'm still glad Ford made the V6 Mustang, because i can now convince my dad to buy me one of these in the next 2 years...maybe ..
I wouldn't mind having this one 300hp is good and plenty for me and the MPG is excellent. I think they need to make a SVT version along side the Shelby (or some other v8 monster mustang) make this v6 antilag twin turbo and independent suspension and nimble enough to atleast tangle with the 370z and well priced and I'm sure they won't regret it.
ok so the only difference between the v6 and the v8 is 10 peak hp? WTF?
What r they gonna do with the GT? Who would buy one? They must be kickin up the hp. But the GT is already more expensive than the Camaro SS. BTW I see alot of them up here in NYC for some reason.
Ford is putting a 5.0L that will make at least 400 hp in the new 2011 GT. I believe Chevy will have thier hands full cause the Mustang GT is already lighter and handles better. With the 2010's only having 315 hp the one tested against the SS in Road and Track was less than 1 second slower around the road course. Imagine what it will do with at least another 80 or more hp.
your welcome, glad to help, i love cars and love share the wonderfull world, maybe you should get into them, its not to hard, i'm only 15 and i've already rebuilt motors, painted comlete cars, and in the process of restoring one
two models. the base model and the gt. the base model has a v6 in it. thats this one theyre showing us. and the GT has a v8 and all the suspension goodies and body stuff. its the top of the line model.
I wish they would build a full-size pickup with high fuel mileage. Someone ought to figure out how to lighten these pickups up, perhaps with an aluminum or carbon fiber frame.
as for the live rear axle wellllll, i hear ya, but there is an interesting thing about it. Most people dont realise the Live rear axle is actually better as far as performance as it keeps both wheels on the pavement equally, its major hickup is bumps and ride quality. where both wheels feels the effects of the other giving a much harsher ride than IRS setup. This new mustang has a true machpeson setup with panard bar so it nothing like the old fox and sn95-(which could sill slalom at 72mph)
aside from ride quality the IRS also keeps both wheels on the pavement in a hard launch. ever seen a solid rear axle wheel hop while doing a burn out? ever seen a IRS wheel hop doing a burn out? the best thing about the solid rear axle is it can handle more HP at a hard launch but in most cases IRS is plenty strong enough for the amount of power push to them.
That aint bad.. honestly! but i wonder what the gearing and torque will be like. never the less if that engine can get its power out it would make for a great tuner mustang. less weight with the v6 cheaper price tag and really decent numbers achieve with performance upgrades. I can see even Tuner shops like Roush and Saleen even opting to keep the engine and making entry level performance versions of the V6. not a bad move considering the 25- (no way its 30) mpg.
"abar1204" What you said its true, although by the time your 17 a 01 BMW 3 series would be pretty cheap. They would probably go under 10K.
In my comment I was referring to the guy that said its okay to spend over 20K on a child's first car, which in my mind is not a good thing. Even if the child said he will chip in for a car that's over 20K I highly doubt he would even be able to chip at least 1/4 of the payment. Over 20K for a car is expensive already for a first car.
i am not a Ford guy, but I have to say, that's pretty impressive. for once, the lower-end V6 counterpart ACTUALLY doesn't look cheap. its got good rims, dual exhaust, and a hell of an impressive engine (w/ great fuel economy). seems like an overall win/win for Ford. congrats
"brandenkhan15" Didn't know the Camaro gets 29 MPG highway. But you do know any car can get high MPG depends how you drive it. Besides all the # they show on the specs aren't right. The MPG is usually higher than it really is.
"Binet" I don't want to be mean, but logically 20K+ on a child's first car is kind of spoiled. If its over 20K, but if its 20K and under its fair.
Unless they have earned it then its another story. I seen a lot of young students (high school junior/senior year) driving BMW/Mercedes, which is pretty spoiled. I mean you're in high school, why need a car that fancy? Parents have to think. Most teens don't drive very well, and if you buy em a nice car. Well you know.
im 14 and i plan on getting like a 2001 three series when im seventeen. i would pay for it and some students who have really nice cars might pay for them or help alot u never know
Logically a car with 305HP can't pull that great of a MPG. Also I believe this mustang will have a major price increase. I believe this mustang can hit 30K+ with options. The old one was 20K starting. This one is probably 25K starting. I'm guessing.
First V6 mustang that actually goes over 300HP. The old one was 210HP from a 4L V6, which is a POS.
The old mustang was 17/26 city/highway. How is it possible that a mustang with 305 can do 30 MPG highway. How is possible for any car with that much HP to get that much MPG.
I props the car for the new power, but I believe Ford is lying that this new mustang can do 30MPG. You people can flame me for saying this, but just so you know I will be right when the test comes out.
corvette has been doing it since the introduction of c-5, and those were 350hp base. now understandably the vette has a lower drag co-efficient, but the engine and drivetrain dynamics in these new mustangs are much more advanced and efficient then anything chevy was using back in 1996.
Okay, for instance like the V6 in the Camaro gets 29 MPG on the highway and it weighs over 3700 lbs. The new Mustang with the V6 gets 30 MPG and it weighs under 3500 lbs. Makes sense to me.
definitely how you drive the car. Some guy apparently got 39mpg from a PDK porsche 911. all you have to do is not try for a 0-60 time whenever you accelerate.
I like where Ford is going with the Mustang. Given it's good chassis as a foundation, sharing components with higher tier performance models and having a more livelier engine are great places to start. Next they should look into engineering weight reduction, not just on the body itself, but also on the interior as well. The price might go up due to this, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a Ford Racing V6 'stang in the near future.
DI3S3L666 1 year ago
All we need now are domestic engines with big displacements and high rev limits. Hello Deutchland? Amerika is koming... haar haar haar?
supercooled 1 year ago
wow, the ford brand is becoming a ricer, i mean a 3.7L V6 makin 305hp? thats something ricers try to make.
Jutt08 1 year ago
its about time fordddddddddd...... im one of those ppl who always put down american cars lol... i am plzz with the new hp numbers and mpg's.
i hope this becomes the the standards.
bkvintagecorp 2 years ago 4
Is it weird that I'm more excited about the new 3.7 than the 5.0? Seems like 412hp is more power than you could really use on a street without getting into some serious trouble...305 hp will let you wind out the gears a little more without doing 100+mph in 2 seconds :P
V6+ 6-Speed + Performance Pack = Pretty serious car.
ambientflier 2 years ago 2
4.0
MJBCOIL 2 years ago
It's not a 4.0, it's a completely different 3.7.
ambientflier 2 years ago
Does anyone know what the price of the 2011 v6 mustang.
stang1100 2 years ago
it will be a 5.0 V8... a 6.2 will just make it nose heavy.
now, the only thing left for ford to truly win the pony car wars is to have an IRS... then there wouldn't be any bitching from automotive sites and publications, instead they'd just need to bow to the greatness of the mustang's awesomeness forever... or until chev and dodge take their full size sedan based ponies and put them on a diet! haha.
attananightshadow 2 years ago
@attananightshadow well, most mustang drivers prefer drag racing, which solid rear axle is good for. plus, adding an IRS would increase the price by $5000, and the mustang's best part is it's cheap price
ken060693 2 years ago
i'm a mustang driver and owner, owned 86 and 91 5.0L and currently a 2001 4.6L...
not everyone drag races, i did with my 86 whenever the street legals were scheduled, but i'm willing to bet that over 90% of mustang owners never take their cars to a drag strip, much like almost all SUV owners never go offroading.
it's cost cutting, pure and simple. saying it's catering to drag racers that's less than 10% of their customers is not truthful.
if you're street racing you're an idiot.
attananightshadow 2 years ago 2
@attananightshadow forget what i said. i mean, like, maybe not all mustang owners drag race, but i din't see a reason to have a IRS. an IRS is good if you're into circuit racing, but it
s not really necessary for a mustang to have one. it's cheap price is it's main selling point
ken060693 2 years ago
An IRS wouldn't be $5000 extra. That's silly.
ambientflier 2 years ago
No, people would still bitch and moanlol You could make the greatest car in the world and people would still nit-pick it to death
donnie249 2 years ago
Stupid Ford makes a 3.7 with 305 hp and a 4.6 with 320. Why not just add a couple cylinders and have a 4.6 making 400 hp?
Instead of producing a whole new engine? ( 5.0 )
TamiyaDude 2 years ago
lets see you design an engine lol
sahzookey 2 years ago
I could probably have designed the 4 litres of garbage theyve been using...
TamiyaDude 2 years ago
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put it back next to the bathroom please
pancakewafflebacon 2 years ago
the rear end still looks like crap
sandking0077 2 years ago
the car looks nice
johnnydragon09 2 years ago
yes he did
andrestnt 2 years ago
getting excited, cause if the v6 gets power boost, the v8 is getting a power boost and thats exactly what ive been waiting on. hopefully the 400hp 6.2 from the ford raptor.
giggles628000000 2 years ago
not the 6.2, the 5.0 400hp 400pft estimate
andrestnt 2 years ago
hey, that still works for me.
giggles628000000 2 years ago
hopefully not 6.2 is too big for that little ony its most likely gonna be the 5.0 producing 400
kremecheez 2 years ago
the government should just decide that we already fucked the earth and give everyone 3 cars of their choice. no moar work or school either
conkerred 2 years ago
american cars are really popular in China. it sucks that people in the US have lost faith in our own cars.
shohokuslamdunk 2 years ago 5
Not true at all.
HAACKER45 2 years ago
I like that they are bringing back the muscle/pony cars.
Landmark356 2 years ago
they were always around, but GM pussied out and Chrysler never had a new one since 74.
alexander1485 2 years ago
I don't really consider the Mustangs from the '80s and '90s real muscle cars. Sure they had good performance engines but they were trying to modernize the body styles and they barley represented the Mustangs of the past.
Landmark356 2 years ago
I agree with you... Its mostly because the mustang from the 80's and early 90's were shaped around an economic crisis.. Not as bad as the one we are recovering from right now, but that was when Mercedes launched the C-class and Honda with the civic, accord, Camry, corolla and all of those economy friendly cars.. Before the 70's It was all muscle, I'll bet they would shove a 350 V8 in damn Smart if those were around..
vetteburna 2 years ago
Yea, they were trying to compete with the rising foreign brands. I'm a big supporter for the American auto industry. Getting out of this economic crisis is hurting us but I think we will pull through.
Landmark356 2 years ago
Respectable stats, but it's still a Mustang with a v6
Weazell 2 years ago
The Volkswagen Golf R20 270hp 4wd is better
GermanMike89 2 years ago
The Focus RS is better> Golf R20. They compete in the same segment.
cerebraldamage 2 years ago
that is some engeneering.. Im starting to change my mind about the V6 mustang..
vetteburna 2 years ago
i already have. the old v6 stang was junk. this one actually looks fun to drive. what makes me laugh is that the Mustang GT has only 11 more horse power
soufang 2 years ago
Well im not getting too exited about it. Im sure Ford will use the excuse of its high MPG to power ratio to boost its base price from the mid $20's to $30-40K.. If they actually made this car lighter with and using active suspension systems... it would be an embarrassment to the base corvette...
vetteburna 2 years ago
the price of the V6 is in the Low 20's
cerebraldamage 2 years ago
yes it is, for the current one being sold in dealers today.. the 2011 should go for about
29k-32k.
vetteburna 2 years ago
the base V6 Mustang starting price is $20995 and the premium @ $23995. I;m not sure where that 29-32k price is coming from?
The only way you can get to that price is by throwing every Imaginable option on the car.
The competition doesn't even offer as many option as the mustang.
cerebraldamage 2 years ago
but thats the 2010 mustang pricing. 2011 should bump up to $23k+ or so
tmrev70 2 years ago
There was already a price increase for 2009 to 2010..
cerebraldamage 2 years ago
yeah but this is an 2011 model with new engine and more power. it has to cost more, otherwise the 2010 owners would be pissed.
tmrev70 2 years ago
The amount of 2010 owners are minimal vs 2011,12,13 owners. If those owners bought a V6 they probably weren't that interested in performance to begin with since they could have bought a Camaro with more power at the time.
For comparison the base V6 Camaro starting price is $22680. The Mustang has always been cheaper than the Camaro.
The Camaro can't touch the mustang on performance, options, price and gas mileage.
Wait for the 5.0 to return the Camaro SS is done for same scenario will play out
cerebraldamage 2 years ago 3
Camaro will be slower next year, true, but historically the Z28 was always faster than the Mustang. And the 2002 SS could beat an 02 Mustang GT......but I agree, next year, its another update that uphold the rule of the King, the Mustang.
Apoth3cary 2 years ago
there would be another one for 2011
vetteburna 2 years ago
thats a tad overpricing. i would guess it will start in the mid 25-28's. i totally think its worth it. plus if your worried about slow you can always turbo it.
soufang 2 years ago
why would they? remember this is the volume seller, not the special edition 30-40k...lol. the 2010 GT starts at 28k, the mustangs already hurting as it is, because of the camaro better price and 8 years of pet-up demand.
andrestnt 2 years ago
Well because its simply superior in terms of gas miles.. If you own a car and has to commute every day driving about 200 miles a week.. eventually you will get tired of constantly pulling into a gas station.. With this kind of improvement Ford has every right to raise its price, buying a mustang was never a good investment until 2010..
vetteburna 2 years ago
i agree on that, well some have been good
but the GT has always been the better option
this one is a good alternative, for the guy that doesn't have 30k
for a GT
andrestnt 2 years ago
or the guy who saves 10k and puts an intake on his v6 making the same exact power with better handling and a standard lsd.
wideopen704 2 years ago
not really the GT is also getting upgraded, and the 2010 GT has more torque 330pft vs the 3.7 280pft
andrestnt 2 years ago
no because the 2011 GT will either have a 5.0L 420 horse v8 or a 6.2L with 500 horses or they'll give us the 5.4L
wideopen704 2 years ago
they have spy photos of the 5.0 in the mustang
ford has repetitively said, the 6.2 is going to stay in the heavy duty f series trucks and raptor. they also said that, it is to big to fit in the mustangs engine bay. a jump of 500hp in the GT is just to big
andrestnt 2 years ago
The lighter weight of the V6 3.7 vs the current GT means that it produces more torque per pound than 2010 GT. Power is only relevant when understood in relation to weight. Ive driven the 3.7 at the HSTT in Romeo with the new 6 spd. The acceleration is more like something youd feel in a light sport scar, very quick, instant power. The lower torque allows a lighter crankshaft than in the 10 GT, and in turn lower rotational weight which creates a more instantaneous power delivery.
dcl97 2 years ago
that also has to do with the gearing, did you drove the optional track pack or just a regular pony? i do agree that this v6 has better power to weight ration than the 2010GT, but theres no denying the 2010GT's power. specially the track pack GT, i would expect Regular GT performance for this 3.7. But not track pack GT 1/4 mile performance
andrestnt 2 years ago
Ah, the Romeo Engine Plant, the proving grounds, and the Peach Festival... The best part of that town. The School is very crowded for the amount of kids we have though. I would know, I live about 10 min. away and go to it.
bezzle67 2 years ago
Torque.....but they are swapping that for a 5.0L 400hp/400 torque V8 as well I believe, if not this year, next year.
Apoth3cary 2 years ago
REALLY!? dnag i cant wait
soufang 2 years ago
and 50pft
andrestnt 2 years ago
yeah but the GT has 50lb-ft of torque more. its torque not horsepower that wins
608gamer07 2 years ago
19961998 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra, -305 hp
1999/2001 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra, -320 hp
2003 Ford Mustang Mach 1, -305 hp
2004 Ford Mustang Mach 1, -310 hp
2010 Ford Taurus SHO -365hp
buying the 2012 mustang 400/400 cyote just to end up with 35hp more than a taurus....pointless
hotrodrodrodrod84 2 years ago 2
400 hp Mustang that weighs 3500 lbs is gonna be ALOT faster than a SHO with 365 hp that weighs 4400lbs.
cmh1975 2 years ago 3
What i was kinda getting at is why did they not put the SHO motor in the stang?
the SHO does 14 flat in the 1/4, -throw it in the mustang -subtract 1000lbs add a set of slicks and run the hell outta it. I'd really love to see em throw a set of "twins" on the new 5.0. That'd be sick.
hotrodrodrodrod84 2 years ago
the new tauras sho is very overrated. heavy and ugly. looks like a redisgned ford five hundred does it not?????
edawg305 2 years ago
Agreed. The SHO appears to have all of the switness, style and girth of a mid '80's Chevy Suburban.... But it's got a hellofa engine.
hotrodrodrodrod84 2 years ago
"swiftness" my bad. That was swift. (facepalm)
hotrodrodrodrod84 2 years ago
@edawg305 just an opinion, i think camaros are ugly
steeldragon20002000 1 year ago
@steeldragon20002000 amen
imtheeboss 1 year ago
@edawg305 No it does not.
gunzkevin 1 year ago
I used to hate Ford but after they came out with the new mustangs and the new F150 they're doing a great job!
clubtc05 2 years ago
if the SHO engine was used in the mustang it would take sales away from the V8 mustangs. Maybe this engine could be used in a new SVO/SVT version of the mustang along with an ecoboost four cylinder engine, aimed at the import sports car market going up against the WRX, EVO,370Z and genesis coupe while the naturally aspirated 3.7 V6, new V8 and shelby version take on the muscle car market?
dnur567 2 years ago
The Mustang is in the same catagory as the 370Z and Genesis coupe. The 370Z is a little faster than the 2010 GT, but its gonna get the brakes beat off it for 2011.
No need to even compare it to a WRX or a EVO cause its not a 4 door sedan and AWD.
cmh1975 2 years ago
What?! Is that possible? 30MPG from a 305HP? But how? That's pretty awesome. Everyone else could learn a thing or two from Ford.
Fox1991 2 years ago 4
they do learn from Ford. Everyone steals their ideas
soufang 2 years ago
Mitsubishi, Nissan, and toyota have been doing it for over 16 years now..
94 supra 3.0TT 320hp and in the 20sMPG
you would think it wouldnt take ford 16 years to get 5 more mpg and less hp and still use bigger motor..
im just saying, im a ford guy, have a 87 coupe 351w swap with about 400hp that gets 8-10mpg
but for 30,000$ i should of got a 99 v6 with 300hp and 30mpg
KernalBH 2 years ago
claiming that the Japanese have been doing it for 16 years is a stretch
The 2JZ-GE only produced 220hp N/A with no turbos no body likes to talk about that engine. The turbo supra was not cheap based on inflation the car would be over 60k today,
In 99 you could of gotten a V8 mustang for less than 30k with more than 300HP. They where called cobras.
cerebraldamage 2 years ago 3
electric steering, 10% better aerodynamics than the 2010, six speed transmission and 40lb of weight reduction up front
andrestnt 2 years ago
So they borrowed the electric power steering from the Mazda's?
al1500321 2 years ago
possibly, possibly not. Mazda & Ford have a really good alliance and offten share and use each others technology and tweek it to their wants. Mazda especially greatful to Ford for saving them from bankruptsy, i think it was in the 80's.
NinjaForeChrist 2 years ago 2
I wonder why they didn't put the 3.5TT 355hp ecoboost in it? Why be competitive when you could hand the camaro it's ass? Not only that but the 3.5tt gets 25mpg in the SHO/MKS which weights 1000lbs more than the stang, so the economy would be close if not better than the 3.7!?! At least the 4.0 finally died.
hotrodrodrodrod84 2 years ago 2
cost. they wouldnt be able to sell the ecoboost for less than 22k
lmrcobalt 2 years ago
I hope the 5.0 replaces the 4.6 in their trucks too, glad ford is no longer sitting back in the horsepower game
drz400e332 2 years ago
It will replace the 5.4l
818silencer818 2 years ago
OH MY FUCKING GOD FORD YAYAYAYYAAYY
testify221 2 years ago
Go big or go home.
Meaning go V8 or get something else.
If want a performance car with a V6 (or I6) just get a 370z, G37, Lexus IS350, BMW 328i/335i.
Sure they are more expensive cars but I personally think it makes no sense to get a pony car that's not a V8. My friend and his father, owners of a 2000 Ford Taurus SHO, '87 supercharged Mustang GT, 2001 Mustang GT, and a 2008 Ford Shelby GT500 both agree its V8 or nothing. I'd take their word as they are hardcore Ford fans.
c0nv1ct1337 2 years ago 2
The fact that they are hardcore Ford fans means that you should definitely NOT take their word on anything regarding Ford products as absolute. Bias my friend is a concept our society learns and rampantly ignores (perhaps like everything else our public school system shovels into our non-productive society). Regardless, if you want a true deciding opinion, ask someone who isn't biased, especially since your acquaintances own older model cars that are inferior and outdated, lacking comparison.
Pezdetz666 2 years ago
"older model cars that are inferior and outdated, lacking comparison. "
How does that make a difference? I'm comparing the V8 to the V6 model. The shelby interior it also not much different to the 2010 models either.
it's not like they have a bias against other manufactuers. I'm comparing ford to ford so.... idk what you're talking about.
c0nv1ct1337 2 years ago
ROLF next to the bathroom that was a nice one!
Latincitizen 2 years ago
FINALLY! They got rid of that ghastly, archaic 200hp V6.
FrostedCold 2 years ago
So the V6 now has an LSD!!! I can finally do proper donuts in my rental car!!! :)
nfusco618 2 years ago
oh i didn't know that. No need to get rude though fuckin dick.
aieljose 2 years ago
wtf 30 mpg? wow
FunPhax 2 years ago
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You can polish up a turd all you want, but its still a turd. this Mustang is nothin special. Classic ford, good engine surrounded by garbage. That ecoboost shit is just a regular old turbo, they call it ecoboost to market it, cuz everyones going green these days.
hanscholo 2 years ago
Take yourself to the dealer and sit in one of these cars. The interior is LIGHTYEARS ahead of what the interior use to be. I've owned a 03 and 04 Cobra and the interior was nothing compared to these cars.
The Mustang does not have Ecoboost. There is a rumor that the 2012 GT500 is will be twin turbo though.
cmh1975 2 years ago
A Mustang V6...with 305HP and 30MPG? Fascinating! I wonder if it's one of their new Ecoboost powerplants?
divooriginale 2 years ago 2
Gee wow... LS1s get 28mpg on the highway...
EvilCerealBoX 2 years ago
haha i dont know which LS1 ur talking about cuz i have 2004 GTO m6 w/ the LS1 and I only get 25 mpg Hwy if i drive carefully.
ricerslayer 2 years ago
You must be doing it wrong then. 90% of the 'maro owners I know get around 28.
EvilCerealBoX 2 years ago
@EvilCerealBoX haha no way my man... if ur getting 28mpg hwy your not enjoy the car. dont get me wrong i can get close to 30's but that doing 60mph. hwy is 80mph+ driving. also my ls1 gto is only rated to 26mpg hwy... and the 05-06 are 23 mpg hwy.
ricerslayer 2 years ago
Ecoboost has turbocharging involed. This V6 is natually aspirated
cmh1975 2 years ago
OMG!!! this is an awesome car. it beats the camaro v6 but can it beat the hyundai genesis coupe v6. i'd probably still have this because its a mustang
soufang 2 years ago
ford screwed themselves on this one. The v6 makes more power than the v8 so no one is going to buy the v8. Its a nice car but a stupid decision by ford.
aieljose 2 years ago
I thought so too, but I found out that ford is going to bring back the 5.0L V-8 and that monster is going to make over 400HP. Not bad. They are doing all of this to keep up with Chevrolet and their Camaro Line-up.
KONGONTOWER 2 years ago 4
I heard a 5.7 l (351CID), V10 would be available with 550 Hp an 500Nm torque, a real beast
walkandlookup 2 years ago
no the 4.6 is being dropped...the 5.0 will make its return with 400 HP.
Tigeron1a 2 years ago
They're going to replace the 4.6l V8 with a 5.0l V8 with horsepower going upto 400 bhp.
monkey0335 2 years ago
Reading owns you. Its only been mentioned about 30 times that a new 5.0 V8 that is making 400+HP will be in the 2011 GT.....jeez
cmh1975 2 years ago
hey ho bin so einsam jemand lust zu chattn oder so
babyygirlyyie 2 years ago
LIMITED SLIP!!!! finally! its about time ford =)
rx7guy21 2 years ago 4
i kove the mustang but a v6 version is wrong it needs the v8.
paulb4uk 2 years ago
It's modern muscle, not classic muscle! If they wan't to make a car launch and go around turns impressively then let them. I know I'll be trading in my 08 for the 2011
v6 or the coyote.
LogoRifle 2 years ago
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for fuck's sake, stop making muscle cars into performance cars! i mean, a V6? you wanna a muscle and still use your miles, is that it? WTF is wrong with you? 305 HP? you can get more out of a baby's turd!
gasfgiop 2 years ago
Really? I do aggree that it competes better with the camaro than the last 20 yrs of mustangs as far as performance goes. But mustangs 6's or 8's have been more affordable than camaros. Performance almost wins, but lower Price with similar performance beats the competition. But if I had the money, I would also get both! Fun daily drivers that have a back seat! Great Cars!
rushgrip 2 years ago
Wow, Ford FINALLY ditched the old V6 in the previous mustangs. That motor was ancient, only made like 210 HP or something. Glad to see this change.
LessThanCool 2 years ago 3
the first ford mustang in 20 years that is actually is a competitor for a camaro, i don't like the new styling as much as the last mustang, but it is still nice, but i'de still rather have the camaro, but if i had the money, i'de buy both
onlypresto 2 years ago
Price?
Saleenrulz 2 years ago
I like the Mustang,best Ford auto......
But rather have a Camaro.....
ClarksonsinUSA 2 years ago
right on man
onlypresto 2 years ago
Love it, yes!!!
telj1 2 years ago
Nothing on the exterior has changed from 2010 to 2011. Its the same car with different engine options.
The difference is between the 2009 and 2010.
cmh1975 2 years ago
its gotten ugly, IMO
shamoni8 2 years ago
god damn it...i just got the new v6 mustang and it has NONe of that. 305 hp? 3.7 liters? 30 mpg?? wtf?????! why AFTEr i purchase it.....qw;ilhj;slfjsdfSDF
J52425 2 years ago
It just go's to show that you need not deep pockets to have deep fun. 300 hp plus a few tweeks that most mustang owners will do, along with a stock LSD that spells big fun!
30 MPG's my 02' SVT Focus is about that same.
FORD get ride of the Live axle and spring for better handling.
Mobbin707 2 years ago
it says 2011 so it's possible to come out late fall of 2010, but even if it comes out in 2011, i'm still glad Ford made the V6 Mustang, because i can now convince my dad to buy me one of these in the next 2 years...maybe ..
stanstankov2 2 years ago 2
That's pretty freakin sweet
2004JETTA 2 years ago
Ford just one upped GM again
I wouldn't mind having this one 300hp is good and plenty for me and the MPG is excellent. I think they need to make a SVT version along side the Shelby (or some other v8 monster mustang) make this v6 antilag twin turbo and independent suspension and nimble enough to atleast tangle with the 370z and well priced and I'm sure they won't regret it.
sidewayznut2009 2 years ago 3
Yeah Ford's gettin' around me with this one... WOOOT!
9886635574 2 years ago
this is nice cant wait to see the test in the magazines
chrisw40 2 years ago 2
WOOOO GO FORD !
ferniee16 2 years ago 3
Note: James crackin bathroom jokes on Ford? Priceless.
RagSenien 2 years ago
ok so the only difference between the v6 and the v8 is 10 peak hp? WTF?
What r they gonna do with the GT? Who would buy one? They must be kickin up the hp. But the GT is already more expensive than the Camaro SS. BTW I see alot of them up here in NYC for some reason.
Looks like Ford has it's hands full.
RagSenien 2 years ago
fuel economy
puslapisnet 2 years ago
fords working on a new 5.0 liter motor called the coyote v8 thats supposed to be in the 400 hp range for the mustang gt
SenorDingles 2 years ago 2
wow they need that thing now. they're loosing sales!
RagSenien 2 years ago
yeah that'll probably be out in 2011 or 2012.. cannnt wait!!
lamp7002 2 years ago
Ford is putting a 5.0L that will make at least 400 hp in the new 2011 GT. I believe Chevy will have thier hands full cause the Mustang GT is already lighter and handles better. With the 2010's only having 315 hp the one tested against the SS in Road and Track was less than 1 second slower around the road course. Imagine what it will do with at least another 80 or more hp.
cmh1975 2 years ago 4
which is the SS? camaro?
shamoni8 2 years ago
yes, the camaro is the ss, mustang is the gt
onlypresto 2 years ago
question. are all mustang's gt?
shamoni8 2 years ago
not all, gts are the performance version of the regular, and they all have v8s, the regulars have v6s, same aplies for the ss camaros
onlypresto 2 years ago
oh ok cool, thanks for the info
shamoni8 2 years ago
your welcome, glad to help, i love cars and love share the wonderfull world, maybe you should get into them, its not to hard, i'm only 15 and i've already rebuilt motors, painted comlete cars, and in the process of restoring one
onlypresto 2 years ago
two models. the base model and the gt. the base model has a v6 in it. thats this one theyre showing us. and the GT has a v8 and all the suspension goodies and body stuff. its the top of the line model.
stiqman 2 years ago
no GT means V8. the GT is faster than the V6 because the V6 has a smaller engine unlike the the V8. most V8s have a 4.6 in them wich is pretty fast.
bctusu 2 years ago
I wish they would build a full-size pickup with high fuel mileage. Someone ought to figure out how to lighten these pickups up, perhaps with an aluminum or carbon fiber frame.
joewilder 2 years ago 2
Carbon frame? Have you looked at the price of trucks these days? LMAO
cmh1975 2 years ago
so your telling me the only difference prutty much between the V6 and the GT is around $10,000?
chaser2273 2 years ago
the 2011 Gt will have 5.0 with 400+HP
cerebraldamage 2 years ago 2
as for the live rear axle wellllll, i hear ya, but there is an interesting thing about it. Most people dont realise the Live rear axle is actually better as far as performance as it keeps both wheels on the pavement equally, its major hickup is bumps and ride quality. where both wheels feels the effects of the other giving a much harsher ride than IRS setup. This new mustang has a true machpeson setup with panard bar so it nothing like the old fox and sn95-(which could sill slalom at 72mph)
xevious2501 2 years ago
aside from ride quality the IRS also keeps both wheels on the pavement in a hard launch. ever seen a solid rear axle wheel hop while doing a burn out? ever seen a IRS wheel hop doing a burn out? the best thing about the solid rear axle is it can handle more HP at a hard launch but in most cases IRS is plenty strong enough for the amount of power push to them.
yfzfofitty06 2 years ago
i like the new look too
siedpe13 2 years ago
That aint bad.. honestly! but i wonder what the gearing and torque will be like. never the less if that engine can get its power out it would make for a great tuner mustang. less weight with the v6 cheaper price tag and really decent numbers achieve with performance upgrades. I can see even Tuner shops like Roush and Saleen even opting to keep the engine and making entry level performance versions of the V6. not a bad move considering the 25- (no way its 30) mpg.
xevious2501 2 years ago 2
"abar1204" What you said its true, although by the time your 17 a 01 BMW 3 series would be pretty cheap. They would probably go under 10K.
In my comment I was referring to the guy that said its okay to spend over 20K on a child's first car, which in my mind is not a good thing. Even if the child said he will chip in for a car that's over 20K I highly doubt he would even be able to chip at least 1/4 of the payment. Over 20K for a car is expensive already for a first car.
NigguhJason 2 years ago
i am not a Ford guy, but I have to say, that's pretty impressive. for once, the lower-end V6 counterpart ACTUALLY doesn't look cheap. its got good rims, dual exhaust, and a hell of an impressive engine (w/ great fuel economy). seems like an overall win/win for Ford. congrats
DemonOfRazgriz89 2 years ago 3
agreed sir.
rocker66666666 2 years ago
ah Ford, my current favorite car company
this mustang V6
the new Taurus and Taurus SHO
the fusion sport and hybrid
the New Fiesta (yeah i need to buy one of those)
and the new Focus to be based on the c-max
the house that henry built still stands
superbowlermonkey 2 years ago 4
James is great, but what happened to that other tried and true voice of the redhead guy?
bg1379 2 years ago
"brandenkhan15" Didn't know the Camaro gets 29 MPG highway. But you do know any car can get high MPG depends how you drive it. Besides all the # they show on the specs aren't right. The MPG is usually higher than it really is.
NigguhJason 2 years ago
Hmm...interesting.
SvenX13 2 years ago
Nissan has a 3.7 V6 with 350 hp. Why do ppl say american cars are better?
Lambo6fo 2 years ago
because they are
TopGearFordGt 2 years ago
because they are
MattFromNorwood 2 years ago
@lambo6fo: I dont think they do. its just that the american cars are a bit cheaper
nmunmnm 2 years ago
and how much that Nismo cost? FACT twice as the base model mustang so yeah they are..GO BLUE!!
ohh and btw the GT will bring 400+HP in 2011
cerebraldamage 2 years ago
dnt like how the back looks
jmar0015 2 years ago
"Binet" I don't want to be mean, but logically 20K+ on a child's first car is kind of spoiled. If its over 20K, but if its 20K and under its fair.
Unless they have earned it then its another story. I seen a lot of young students (high school junior/senior year) driving BMW/Mercedes, which is pretty spoiled. I mean you're in high school, why need a car that fancy? Parents have to think. Most teens don't drive very well, and if you buy em a nice car. Well you know.
NigguhJason 2 years ago
im 14 and i plan on getting like a 2001 three series when im seventeen. i would pay for it and some students who have really nice cars might pay for them or help alot u never know
abar1204 2 years ago
Logically a car with 305HP can't pull that great of a MPG. Also I believe this mustang will have a major price increase. I believe this mustang can hit 30K+ with options. The old one was 20K starting. This one is probably 25K starting. I'm guessing.
NigguhJason 2 years ago
if you read the press release you would know why the car get 30mpg,(it's all over the place) Ford already said that the price isn't going to go up.
cerebraldamage 2 years ago
First V6 mustang that actually goes over 300HP. The old one was 210HP from a 4L V6, which is a POS.
The old mustang was 17/26 city/highway. How is it possible that a mustang with 305 can do 30 MPG highway. How is possible for any car with that much HP to get that much MPG.
I props the car for the new power, but I believe Ford is lying that this new mustang can do 30MPG. You people can flame me for saying this, but just so you know I will be right when the test comes out.
NigguhJason 2 years ago
well....if you drive this in 60 mph for more than an hour in 6th gear, 30 mpg won't be impossible I guess....
saudim46 2 years ago
corvette has been doing it since the introduction of c-5, and those were 350hp base. now understandably the vette has a lower drag co-efficient, but the engine and drivetrain dynamics in these new mustangs are much more advanced and efficient then anything chevy was using back in 1996.
boutdempapers 2 years ago
Okay, for instance like the V6 in the Camaro gets 29 MPG on the highway and it weighs over 3700 lbs. The new Mustang with the V6 gets 30 MPG and it weighs under 3500 lbs. Makes sense to me.
brandenkhan15 2 years ago
definitely how you drive the car. Some guy apparently got 39mpg from a PDK porsche 911. all you have to do is not try for a 0-60 time whenever you accelerate.
abm89 2 years ago
They should have done this since a long time ago...
linkdarkshadow 2 years ago 2