Only men can stop rape????

[SaintsWillMarch]

When women stop the fetal holocaust, I'll see what I can do about rape.

[KhagarBalugrak]

You're absolutely right in saying that women who falsely accuse men of rape - or anything else - should be imprisoned for as long as they tried to get the man imprisoned for. The same rules should also apply to men.

Feminists who say that innocent men should be imprisoned just so real victims of rape can more comfortably come forward are Nazis. It's just like saying Jews should all be killed so the good, non-Jewish Germans can be safer and have better employment prospects.

[opalrok]

"Whatever they may be in public life, whatever their relations with men, in their relations with women, all men are rapists and that's all they are. They rape us with their eyes, their laws, their codes." - From the book, The Women's Room by Marilyn French, spoken by a fictional character. Note the words 'FICTIONAL CHARACTER'

God alive, you are truly stupid.

[factory2590]

@opalrok What of it? The meme carries over to the 'only men can stop rape' campaign we see today, the idea is commonly espoused by feminists (most certainly as 'all men are potential rapists'), etc.

But you don't want to see that, because you're a feminist.

And frankly I don't give a shit.

You're ideology is about to get steamrollered. You are irrelevant.

Hateful sexist asshole, but irrelevant all the same.

[adamcaul]

Calling me a dumb ass for expressing my opinion and taking the time to respond is really rude



[factory2590]

@adamcaul Depends on what you said I guess... Not sure what you're referring to.

[BillKiernan]

funny, my dad never had to sit my down and tell me how bad rape is, yet i've never raped anyone!

[kuntish]

your fictional little boy IS a potential rapist. he is not an inherently bad person but he has the potential to rape.

the ratio of false rapes is exactly the same as the false accusation of any other crime. that's pretty low.

do you really have so much faith in the judicial system to believe that the duke lacrosse scandal was faked? what about OJ? he was guilty but totally got off with it.

[factory2590]

So we can daily talk about how little girls are potential gold-diggers and false accusers? Because false accusation happens at least as often as real rape...

At least, according to the ONLY studies done on the subject...

Your baseless assertion otherwise notwithstanding.

And YES, the Duke thing was a railroading... Are you seriously suggesting otherwise?

[jakcloudhighwind]

@kuntish so did your dad rape your mom to make you?

[slothmayhem]

you know that false accusations sometimes are unintentional. You do know that, or not? So for instance a raped woman who identifies the wrong man by mistake would end up in prison.

You are too radical to be taken seriously, sry.

[factory2590]

And somehow reversing the burden of proof, and incarcerating thousands of men on nothing more than the word of a woman is NOT "radical"?

What planet are you on? 

I'll tell you what though.. I could see giving false accusers the exact same legal "rights" as people accused of rape.

ie, she would have to prove herself innocent to avoid jail...

Sound fair?

[slothmayhem]

yes all rape trials are decided by the word of the woman. There is no evidence, never.

Hey I have an idea, lets make rape legal since it is so hard to prove. And we all know women are lying bitches and actually they are all asking for it.

You are aware of the fact that circumstantial evidence lawsuits happen all the time, also not concerning rape?

But for some reason you choose to pick out men as victims of a feminist jurisdiction. Both sexes can be raped, for your information.

[factory2590]

Hey, all I did was advocate the equal treatment of men and women in Court...YOU are the one who turned that into "let's make rape legal"....what does that say about your attitude towards false accusation?

Rape is a criminal act that has no legal definition, save for HER opinion. When rape was defined clearly, and objectively, and was prosecuted according to commonly accepted rules..I had no position on the matter at all.

Now, it's a modern day witch hunt. Because of Feminism.

[pianoaficionado29]

@factory2590 "When rape was defined clearly, and objectively, and was prosecuted according to commonly accepted rules"--when are you speaking of? When men practically owned women as property and could have sex with them rather they wanted it or not--aka old school marriage? When the only way you could rape a woman is when she was a virgin (still an attitude today sadly)? When rape wasn't prosecuted at all or the woman was called hysterical by default? Don't think I see what you're saying here...

[factory2590]

@pianoaficionado29 Of course you don't. That's because you're nuts, and have no idea how to read an actual history book. You likely also lack empathy, which makes taking both views into account nearly impossible.

other than that, your sexist bigotry might have something to do with it....

So many choices, I just can't decide...

[pianoaficionado29]

@factory2590 Nuts? Lack empathy? Well, I don't want to get too personal, but I think you could've done without the ableist bullshit. I'm neither sociopathic nor diagnosed with a mental illness; and onto your other assertion, I'm a college student who is constantly reading and learning. But why am I wasting my time telling you this?

Sexist bigotry? Baseless, ad hominem argument. But I couldn't have expected an intelligent, sensible, factual response to support twisted views like yours anyway.

[factory2590]

"Thousands" does not equate to "all" by the way...

Wow, you're a serious man hater aren't you? Do you EVER take anything a man says at face value? Perhaps reserved only for those men who agree with your female-superiority outlook?

[slothmayhem]

No I would never hate men for being the same victims as women by this society which enslaves them just like women. I as a feminist can see that, because feminism is about equality.

you are the one who makes women culprits, in every single video of yours. Don't just twist the facts by saying I'm the sexist here.

[slothmayhem]

What I am saying is that the nature of the crime "rape" is the reason why the laws are the way they are. This is not a gender issue, this is a criminal issue.

For the 10th time. Both sexes can be raped.

[factory2590]

The handling of the case, the legal rights of the accused, the burden of proof...ALL of them are different for Rape cases.

Rape is the ONLY crime where a man must prove his innocence..

Rape Shield laws do not protect the accused...ON PURPOSE...so he's punished even if he's innocent.

This "crime" only happens when a woman is displeased...ask the "5 second rapist" about that...

Oh, and no one can tell you ahead of time exactly which behaviour is criminal..unlike ANY other law.

[factory2590]

Twisting facts is a Feminist pasttime...

Rape laws have been changed radically, and yes, I actually remember when they started changing...

People were concerned that due process would go out the window...

Feminists promised they would never "be like that"...

Then, Feminists had due process thrown out the window...

You can't argue with history....er, unless you Feminists plan on "revising" that too, I suppose...

[slothmayhem]

Rape is a special crime in terms of psychological stress and needs special laws for the alleged victim. None of the rape shield laws add to the guilt or innocence of the alleged rapist. I repeat, none of the facts which are withheld by the court help the woman to convict the accused party.

Before rape shield laws were established, women simply didn't even file charges. This was HELPING rapists.

PS: throwing unrelated criticism in each of your comments is really not very mature. Stop that please

[factory2590]

"Yeah, but...That's Different".

That should be the Feminist slogan....

Rape shield laws were put in place to protect victims...in practice, it protects the identity of those who falsely accuse too...ergo, it's bad for men.

To top it off, if you think being publicly accused of rape, and having it published, doesn't harm an accused...well, then I'd say you think they either "deserve it", or they "must have done something to deserve it".

Equality before the law...no less.

[pianoaficionado29]

@factory2590 Can you please cite your sources, since you claim this is "history" and therefore fact? Who are these "Feminists"? Vague references in absolutist tone =/= logistical, quantitative, proven fact.

Also, you make "Feminists" sound like a branch of its own in the justice system. If feminists did anything, they lobbied to insure the protection of women who were raped--and ignored, which /historically/ has been extremely common. Holding perpetrators accountable was the unprecedented aim.

[pianoaficionado29]

@factory2590 You're own "facts" seem twisted and do not denote anything but lazy, hateful assumptions, if you don't mind me saying. Feminists have never had the institutional power to control the justice system. And before women were allowed an education and a voice, violent acts such as rape by a man with more institutional power could be completely ignored by the justice system. A simple history course or some non biased research would reveal that. Herpderp.

[pianoaficionado29]

@slothmayhem Highfive! Why do people make videos like this? Do you think they actually believe they're saying something revolutionary? That all people should be held accountable for /violent, damaging, exploitative/ acts, regardless of the circumstances? It's not a question of gender. It's a question of who's being denied basic human rights. Calling all victims liars is not making the world a better place, nor is pitting one gender against another with sexist generalizations.

[pianoaficionado29]

@slothmayhem Voices of reason versed in internet sarcasm are hard to find. It seems like a lot of the rhetoric on here is based on "common knowledge"--which has no basis in logic. Research some rape cases. Rape kits can /prove/ rape and yet if the victim is seen as dressed inappropriately or is sexually active, the jury may be to let the rapist walk, ad hominem of the victim. The perpetrator is found guilty of the crime but walks based on a backwards moral code. Justice?

[PipeManChuck]

Woman rape men too. I used to work with victims of rape. Men raped by woman have it harder than any other rape victims. Most are drugged, and raped. Either for child support scams, or minipulation purposes by evil woman, or some huge woman that takes it by force. Rape is rape, regardless of who does it, or how. Peace be upon you

[gyspy21]

men rape other men too. we hear about it in prision.

MEN RAPE OTHER MEN TOO!

[inconsistanttruth]

I agree with this 100%

[AlekNovy]

Why do women always feel the need to point out "oh but you don't know what it feels like, bohooo"...

When they want to guilt-trip you into not expressing your opinions of rape.

Well guess what, we're tired. We know what it feels like... Guess why? Because most violence is against MEN.

So yes, men know what being assaulted feels like. And no, you can't any longer play the catastrophic card. Rape is just violence, and nothing makes it specially catastrophic.

[AlekNovy]

Its no more catastrophic than a soldier's PTSD. So stop the "you don't get it, this is a SPECIAL case of violence without comparison".

Its not... its just a violent act, and like any violent act its measurable by the amount of pain-nerves it hits, and the emotional distress. Number 1 is quantifiable, and number 2 is your own responsibility.

[ioploki]

Ever hear of a straw man argument? Who has ever suggested to you that you tell a male child that he is inherently bad? That is not a tenant of feminism and Dworkin did not say that all men are rapists or anything remotely like that. You clearly have never read Dworkin or perhaps you simply failed to comprehend her work.

So, you're "tired of the 'rape thing'"? Imagine how women must feel.

[factory2590]

"Dworkin did not say that all men are rapists or anything remotely like that."

That settles it, you're either a liar, crazy, or in seruious denial.

That's a well-known, well-published quote...

Dickhead.

[ioploki]

"All men are rapists and that's all they are" IS a well-known, well-published quote - from Marilyn French, not Andrea Dworkin. The line is spoken by a character in her novel "The Women's Room".

You see, I've actually read these people's books; I actually know what I'm talking about. Perhaps you should do some research and then come back here when you are equipped to make an argument.

[factory2590]

Oh, sorry, my bad. I quoted the wrong luminary in the feminist movement.

There's so many of them with so many hateful things they said, it's hard to keep track...

You're starting to bore me.

Fuck off.

[kanaelie]

Yes, a quote from a work of fiction. Something a fictional character said. That does not mean the author herself believes such a statement. What an utterly ridiculous notion.

It would be a lot easier to take MR more seriously and have these open debates you claimed to want, if you didn't resort to personal attacks so often. That shows where your true intent lies.

[factory2590]

I don't want to debate you any more. Those days are back when I tried to get feminist attention to the issues, so we could all work on them together.

After getting told to fuck off so many times, I make my accusations with a great deal of confidence.

If feminism is not man hatred and castigation, if feminism is a movement about equality, then any feminist should be able to easily demonstrate what feminism has done for men, that is positive and not necessarily benfitting women.

(cont)

[factory2590]

None of you can. All of you then resort to saying feminism is about equality for women, and that men should do something on their own.

Feminists claim to simply want parity with men, but have no idea what men "have"...only a twisted characterization.

If feminism were anywhere NEAR an egalitarian movement, you would be easily able to dismantle my arguments. Easy enough to actually do it, in fact.

But you can't, because you KNOW I'm right, even though you hate that fact.

[qwexas]

Who cares which person said it? It was said and it's wrong. That's the real problem, not the trivial detail.

Have you learned anything useful in those books? Something that can be used here, not in a book club meeting.

Did you choose your username by hitting keys that were near each other? They're all in the top-right corner. That's how I chose my name.

[funcuz]

Imagine how women must feel ? Why imagine ? It's been described to boys in great detail for their entire lives. They have no need to 'imagine'. It's all they ever hear. Now imagine for a moment what it would be like to spend a minute thinking of the problems of men and boys. Nothing comes to mind since , after all , according to feminist bullshit doctrine , men and boys have no problems.

[Zyozyoma]

If a woman claims under oath that a man raped her when he didn't, that's the crime of perjury.

[factory2590]

I'd go so far as to suggest some form of "malicious prosecution" type charge is more in line with the effects of a rape accusation.

Not to mention that women are rarely even charged with perjury.

[Popadibs]

If a woman falsely lies about a man raping her then her punishment should be the same amount of time a man faces in jail + the time he already spent in jail.

[crh2010]

I was under the impression that perjury was a very bad crime to committ

Yet when women committ paternaty fraud they get a slap on the wrist

When they lie about being raped they might get 1 year probation

[g0dlike308]

"If a woman claims under oath that a man raped her when he didn't, that's the crime of perjury." Its not just a crime of perjury, its rape ITSELF. its the most vicious crime you can ever commit and it deserves a life sentence in jail, without parole. Just as rape is a "special" crime and not a mere physical assault that gets you 1 year max in jail, lying about rape should also be a "special" crime.

[adamcaul]

Women rape and abuse and molest too.  They also cheat and steal but they seem to find a way to STILL BLAME it all on men.

[pianoaficionado29]

@adamcaul Hey, dumbass. /Everyone/ is capable of evil. And the person to be faulted is the perpetrator--not the victim, regardless of the gender of those involved. So quick with the sexist jargon. This "common sense" blame game bs is a mere generalization and sign of defensiveness. Is victim blaming any better than blaming men? No. Neither one works. It's also a logistical fact that false accusations of rape are no higher than those of any other crime. However, conviction rates are much lower.

[mousey1952]

Yes indeed, only men can stop rape. It's called self control.

[go1retro]

So if I go get drunk at a party go alone with a random dude to his apartment and get raped it's his fault?

Um...no I was being stupid. The guy should be punished but, I'm an idiot.

[mousey1952]

Yep, sure is, each person is responsible for their own actions, if someone gets drunk its their responsibility for their actions, but if the person commiting the act of rape is also responsible for their actions, duh, if you rape someone it's your fault because you did it

[AScann3rDarkly]

The law right now says that if you get drunk and go alone with a random dude to his apartment, have CONSENSUAL SEX with him, then regret it later, you can go to court and say that since you wouldn't sleep with him while you were sober, consensual sex while drunk is rape, and you could put the guy in jail.

[niteowlsam]

Purfectlyugly,U dont dismiss me, u untermensch. Since I started coming here u haven't said even one word that made any sense or had any meaning.U couldn't even remember ur own words even though they're right in front of u here.U're a waste.U and ur feminazi cunts arent worth arguing with. BTW,I have no doubt most women sexually abuse little boys one way or another but most people dont suspect them because they're women.

[citrusflavored]

Not to mention all the times that women rape men or little boys and get away with it because "that is a completely absurd thing to suggest!"

[niteowlsam]

purfectlyNOTcute,"because there's always a woman who'll give it away"!!So shithead,when was the last time u gave it away? "men still rape"!No.men don't rape.Criminals do. Just like there are women who commit all kinds of crimes including killing their own children but I bet u won't say mothers kill their children..Women rape too but u won't say "women still rape..You blame the whole male gender for the acts of few yet u won't apply the same to women. You sick hateful feminazi.I hope u get raped

[PurrfectlyCute]

Um, the subject here was rape, was it not? Show me where I blamed "the whole gender" for ANYTHING.

That's the problem, you assholes can't discuss something w/o emotional tirades. You hope I get raped? wow, nice. That confirms that you are an emotional basketcase.

[niteowlsam]

purfectlyugly, once again u fail to remember ur own words.Typical of a cunt I guess.Read u dumb bitch.Read ur own reply when u said "yet men still rape".R u blind or just dumb? U're beyond dumb.

[niteowlsam]

U don't think there's anything wrong with saying "yet men still rape" ? Maybe we should also say women still rape.Mothers still kill their children.Women still cheat.Women still kill their husbands...U get it stupid? U can't say "men rape" because 0.01% of them do, bitch. Dont fucking comment any more.U're too dumb to be here, just like most of women.

[PurrfectlyCute]

Wow, name calling AND you hope I get raped. If you are the spokesperson for the "men's movement", you're exactly what gives feminists an argument. LOL

Keep up the good work. Dismissed.

(that means ignored. So don't respond to me anymore)

[silverdragon1979]

The only way to truly stop rape is with abstinence (which can be applied to both sexes). As long as there is sex (hetero or homo) rape can happen. That is about as simple as it gets.

[factory2590]

Well that's practical. We'll just tell everyone not to have sex. Why didn't I think of that???

I'm sure criminals will obey...

Sheesh.

[silverdragon1979]

Ok, smart ass. The point I was trying to make (since you missed it) was that it makes no difference what gender we are when it comes to rape. Abstinence is the only way to stop it completely. I know people are going to want to have sex, and unfortunately rape will always be an issue as long as human beings have evil intentions with sex. So, the fact that only men can stop rape is crap. I guess I'll disagree with you next time so I won't receive so much sarcasm.

[factory2590]

That comment totally invited scarcasm, if you were seriously suggesting abstinence for eveyone.

If you were saying rape is inevitable, well I would say that if sex wasn't so taboo (for men) in NA, or prostitution legal (making sex not that hard to get) instances of rape would decline.

because in many cases, rape really IS about sex...not "power and control"...

[silverdragon1979]

I'll just accept the fact that you know more about this and move on.

[PurrfectlyCute]

Not really. Because there is always a woman who will give it away, yet men still rape. They get OFF on the terror they are infllicting. It's NOT about 'sex".

Dumbfuck.

[PurrfectlyCute]

What the hell does abstainence have to do with the bastard that broke into my mom's home and raped her?

You're an idiot..

[acadiantunes]

The bastard should have raped you instead, get a fucking life LOSER

[PurrfectlyCute]

Another tirade from an emotional basketcase.... and you guys talk about women letting their emotions rule them?

[factory2590]

Obviously, personal issues are clouding your perspective...or do you really suggest that you know the motivations of every rapist, now and in the future?

But hey, go ahead and be angry at a guy because he dares to question the ideology....it's very "progressive" of you...

[PurrfectlyCute]

I know that men don't rape (forceable rape, not statutory rape) because they get horny. There are outlets that accomodate that...there is not a reason to force someone when there are plenty of women that will give it to them.

It's not rocket science, pal.

[factory2590]

Er, then you could maybe tell me, in no uncertain terms, what constitutes rape. No ambiguity allowed, so all men everywhere know exactly what behaviour is classed as "rape".

Consent doesn't matter, since it can be withdrawn at any time, including days later. Willingness doesn't matter, as in the case of the "5 second rapist". In fact, the only thing that seems to is the opinion of the "victim".

Hey look, unintended consequences to totalitarian lawmaking! Or are they unintended?

[factory2590]

After all, "All men are rapists, and that's all they are"....right?

[PurrfectlyCute]

The law says it's forced intercourse, oral, sodomy or otherwise, or with objects WITHOUT consent.

Nobody can be 'raped" if they agreed to it. Regret later isn't lawfully considered 'rape". (and you know that). We are discussing the fact that rape isn;t about sex because mostly, it's NOT.

[factory2590]

Actually Purrfectlycute, regret later is indeed lawfully considered rape...so is sex with a woman who is in any way intoxicated (even if you don't know), a woman who decides not to in the middle of the act (5 second rapist), or if the woman was "manipulated" in some way.

So no, we are indeed NOT talking about "forcible rape".

[PurrfectlyCute]

Looking at state statutes on rape right now. None include 'regret after the fact" as part of the offense.

sorry.

[factory2590]

Right. Because that's how the law will be written... And of course, no one would ever stretch or test the limits of case law..

Or, for that matter, (and I KNOW this never happens), the woman could lie or be vague.

Not to mention the zealotry this issue is attacked with.

AND not to mention that all MRA's are asking for is clarity and consistency from the law....isn't that sort of what it's supposed to be anyway?

In any case, Feminists have lied about so much, everything they say is suspect.

[TXUSA23]

Right on! We have too much of this feminist crap shoved in our faces without it being challenged. Pure BS!

[igore89]

if your tired of it stop talking.

[puyen58]

Women who falsely accuse men of rape should be given the death penalty.

[LuthienC]

what kind of warped thinking is that? when was the last time you heard of a rapist getting the death penalty??

Women who falsely accuse men of rape should get an equal jail sentence as an actual rapist...that would be fair.

[factory2590]

I think actually prosecuting someone would be a good first step.

[LuthienC]

I agree. That said, I disagree with just about every other statement you made in the video...Are you really not willing to tach any of your "potential" sons not to rape, just because you disagree with women not bein prosecuted for making false allegations? The whole "Men Can Stop Rape" campaign is not saying that all men are rapists, and they need to be un-taught this behaviour. It is a campaign for men to stand up and make their views on rape known, and support the women that are fighting it.

[LuthienC]

You come across as though you don't care about the issue of rape. An issue which is far more prevailent than false accusations of rape worldwide. I just sat and shook my head at this video. People who believe that all men are rapists, and who follow a lot of radical feminist views are really not very smart, and they aren't doing their homework on the issue. It needs to be addressed. I agree. You just went about it in a very offensive way.

[LuthienC]

You sitting and swearing and acting like you don't care at all about rape, just because women who falsely accuse aren't prosecuted is really sad. You're taking one issue, and applying to another to substantiate what you're saying..if you left the men can stop rape campaign, and the issue of rape itself out of this, I would have agreed with you 100%, and been far more likely to support, and try to pass on your views. Not that you'll care about my opinion...I am just a woman, right?

[factory2590]

I don't care about the issue of rape. Sorry, I don't. Or, any more than I do about the "issue" of murder or the "issue" of robbery.

The only people making the "issue" of rape an "issue" are Feminists. And they're using it to create fear of and hostility towards men.

And no, I do not and will not Presumptively assume my son will rape someone, or that it's even crossed his mind. It's a damn sick person to suggest it is even CLOSE to a good idea.

That's the LAST thing boys need.

[factory2590]

And I swear to God if I see another chick post a "You probably don't care, cause I'm just a woman" line I'm going to scream.

Do you people have no self esteem? Is passive agressive behaviour THAT common of a tactic?

Either grow some skin, or go away.

[LuthienC]

It's like if I have a daughter, and don't teach her that lying is wrong (I would actually go as far as to mention that falsely accusing a man of rape is wrong to her) then she goes out and does it without knowing she shouldn't. Should I now shoulder some of the responsibility for not teaching her in the first place? Do you think people are born knowing right from wrong?

[factory2590]

False accusation should be a Felony crime....your admonishments have no impact on the larger scheme. So while you personally might want to "discourage" false accusations, I personally want to see women starting to cool their heels in Prison for a decade or so when they do this.

I want Equality before the law.

You want to maintain female privilege.

Which makes ME think YOU don't have much regard for men. As for women, no, by and large they're not worthwhile.

And that ain't my fault...

[LuthienC]

I do want to see them put in jail for false accusations of rape. I think a woman falsely accusing a man of rape is as bad as a man raping a woman. I believe that it should be considered a crime punishable by law, requiring prison time. I just got so caught up in all the REALLY stupid things you said, so I guess my stance on the issue wasn't clear.

I have a very large amount of regard for men...I don't usually think in terms of male/ female when judging someone, as you appear to.

[stupidfeminazifoolz]

I have a very large amount of regard for men...I don't usually think in terms of male/ female when judging someone, as you appear to.

This is a lie you defend the "only men can stop rape campaign" so you are no different. If you have a large amount of regard for men its probably a delusional envy of power you think they have (which they don't in reality).

[LuthienC]

I realized after the fact that it was a stupid barb...I only did it because you sound like you're not a big fan of women...but it was childish, so I apologize.

[LuthienC]

Rape victims also tend to see it as an issue.

So you don't think crime is an issue?? WOW, you would be the only person I've ever heard say that.

You don't think teaching a child right from wrong is a good idea?? If no one ever teaches a child what is right and wrong, how will he find out? who better than a parent to tell their child "listen you shoud never do this, it is wrong"

[factory2590]

Do you have no common sense, or are you actually trying to convince me that "Only Men can stop rape" and "teaching your kids about crime" are even close to the same thing.

See, one is akin to "don't do bad things", the other is akin to "You're male, and therefore a potential rapist, so I'll treat you like one".

Give me a break. No one is that stupid.

[LuthienC]

You have the whole Men Can Stop Rape campaign all wrong. You don't understand the point, therefore your arguments are so crazy sounding that they are almost mind boggling. I'm sure you think they're mind boggling too, but for different reasons.

You aren't going to understand me at all, and rape is a very touchy issue for me. So, I think it is best if I just leave here now, and do not return.

One thing I will say, you may think you're for equal rights, but it doesn't sound like it.

[stupidfeminazifoolz]

You have the whole Men Can Stop Rape campaign all wrong. You don't understand the point

Actually i don't think any normal person understands this point. If i told you "only jew's can stop murder" would it be easy to understand? Ofcourse not,

The only men can stop rape campaign is sexism it clearly assumes that only men can rape or are the perpetrators of rape. Laws are in place to stop rape just like murder and women can rape aswell so it is not only an assumption but incoherant aswell.

[stupidfeminazifoolz]

Actually you obviously twisted his words he said that rape is no worse an issue than murder etc. Basically specialising in certain issues that have already been addressed by the law is pointless what he meant. Eg: Im not concerned murder issues because laws are already inplace for it and im happy with it. its not an issue? Since the law is in place. Rape is not worse than murder sorry and there is laws for it.

[TheEditorialist]

Rape hysteria is one of the most potent tools in the feminist arsenal.

Witch hysteria was a potent tool for the Puritan church at one time.

The Red Scare of the 1950's was a similarly abused tool in the hands of The State.

Our highly vaunted civilization seems to just stumble from one Dark Age to the next, all the while gushing about how enlightened we are.

Go to amazon and search for "The Crowd" by Gustave LeBon.

Read the first review of the book. You'll want to buy it.

[5erendipity]

That is fucking insane!

[factory2590]

Could you be more specific?

[niteowlsam]

I also think it's time to teach women (mothers) not to molest and rape their children.I don't have the slightest doubt that many many women molest their young male children but because they are "women" or "mothers" nobody wants to even think about that.

[niteowlsam]

We need more men like you, man. The problem is there aren't. Many men today are sissies too scared to say the truth because they don't want to upset the cunts in their lives. Or they're too lazy and passive to do anything.

[factory2590]

All ya gotta do is have nothing left to lose....

[factory2590]

Oh, I see, so I need to dive deep into the theory behind the patently sexist and divisive statement, to find it's "True Meaning", which will then reveal itself to me as a gentle unfolding of my consciousness....

blech

I know I know, Tab "A" inserts into "Slot B" which makes "Slot B" more likely to feel vulnerable.

Tough shit.

[RPB5]

mmm mmm words of truth.. nothing tastier than that.

[factory2590]

Even if what you say is true, it does not excuse the legions of Feminists parroting the rhetoric and believing the lies today, now does it?

No, I can't "forgive" the sentiment at all. it's out and out man-hatred. And while I understand Dworkin hated men, it was neither justified nor healthy in any way.

And anyone spouting this crap deserves to be put in the same heap as Dworkin too.

[factory2590]

Don't presume to tell me how to go about my activism. I have been doing this for a long time, and I know what hasn't worked in the past.

You seem to think attacks on feminism are misplaced, like Feminists are some sort of natural ally of the MRM.

Hogwash.

Feminism is the ENEMY of MRA's, and this is not because of any reason other than the fact that Feminists have dismissed and fought MRA's at every turn, and furthermore CONTINUE to do so.

Screw 'em, we'll get what we want regardless.

[factory2590]

As long as Patriarchy Theory is part of Feminism (ANY flavour of it), it remains an anti-male ideology. Saying you don't believe in it and yet you're still a feminist is like saying you don't believe in Christ, but you're a Catholic.

Feminists and Women started this "war of the sexes", men have been suffering for a long time.

The only "bending" to be done (politically) is for women to do...men have done far too much for women already.

[factory2590]

The problem here, is that you keep insisting MRA's need feminist support to succeed.

We haven't up until now, and as you may be aware the initial stages are the most difficult in any movement. We are starting to enjoy some success, WITHOUT feminist support (indeed, while suffering attacks from Feminists the whole time).

It's only now that we're being heard that Feminists suddenly want to attach themselves to the MRM.

To Feminists: "Fuck you".

How about that?

[dyingrhino]

its not rape if you yell surprise

[wauquelin]

All men are potential rapists in a patriarchy and you, like all men, are patriarchal privilege takers. Who commits most of the violence and sexual assaults in society? There is still not enough outrage about this. Now you patriarchal rapists are put on the defensive for your disgusting behavior by feminists. Tough shit. Like I said, deal with it or drop dead, four eyed fag.

[factory2590]

Wow, you really are a total fucking nutcase aren't you???

[Truth0rDeath]

You are a woman and therefore a potential child abuser. It's true.

"Approximately, 40 percent (39.9%) of child victims were maltreated by their mothers acting alone; another 17.6 percent were maltreated by their fathers acting alone; and 17.8 percent were abused by both parents"

Straight from the department of health and human services. Women commit the most child abuse.

[wauquelin]

And men commit most of the sex abusve of children of both sexes. Women are the primary caretakers of children, hence your stats. However, if MEN were children's primary caretakers, most children would never make it to adulthood, given men's propensity for violence and rape.

[Truth0rDeath]

Wrong. Single fathers make far better parents than single mothers.

And rape is rare in the western world. Women make far more false rape accusations than they suffer from actual rapes.

[niteowlsam]

Is that why 2/3 of all children raised by single whores grow up to be criminals and rapists?

[trusere]

The situations you discussed do highlight inequality against men. The large percent of rapists who go unsentanced is also unjust. Dosen't talking about those cases in a derogatory manner make you as bad as the feminists you despise? There is inequlity everywhere and different people feel drawn to fight for different causes, but mocking other peoples fight only makes for more anger, power struggles, and inequlity

[factory2590]

When you inflate the amount of possible actions that can be called "Sexual Assault", then report on these numbers as if they were actual rapes (smacks on the ass are "sexual assault" my dear), of COURSE there's going to be a low conviction rate. You want men going to jail for 25 years because they were jerks?

That's why the conviction rate is so low...because feminists have redefined "rape", to report "alarming statistics".

They're liars...

[acadiantunes]

" take your men can stop rape campaign and shove it up your ass" LOL  More like damsel in distress campaign. I was falsely accussed so i say shove it up your ass also!!

[centreline67]

Great vid. It's good to see some anger and outrage for us for once.

[AudreyDarling]

Very eloquent and mature *thumbs up*

[jbgood3]

Absolutely 100% correct! Also, the day they stop lying about rape stats and start talking about male rape ie. being forced, persuaded or coerced into sex, which they classify as rape when it happens to them, is the day we should show some interest in the problem. Until that time it is just a shaming tactic and the shame is on them.

[tom181071]

Some false allegations of rape DO get prosecuted and imprisoned, SOMETIMES. It is rare, but MRAs should know what the stats are for each country. It is not universally accurate to say zero women are prosecuted for false allegation. Of course, when an Irish guy made a false allegation of rape against a priest, the false accuser got sent down for four years. I've seen no more than 4 months for a false accusing woman.

[factory2590]

I've yet to see evidence at all that a woman has ever been prosecuted for false accusation of rape, or false accusation of anything.

Mischief, yes.  "Wasting police resources", yes.

False accusation, no.

[tom181071]

True. Establishment mentions are vague. In a BBC report of ongoing allegations of rape against England cricket or rugby players (can't remember which) some months back, the newsreader merely said 'Claims made, against XXX, by a New Zealand woman, have been dropped'. So the words 'rape' and 'false' were dropped too, defusing the sense of false allegation epidemic for the audience. BBC R4's Woman's Hour recently did a spot on False rape, acknowledging only 3-9% claims false. A BBC war on truth!

[crypter27]

Female rape has dropped & male rape is on the rise,also women rape men more then men rape women & they can. Get away with it,talk about double standards & your right its bullshit,so fuck the femnazis

[heyyoubeindthebushes]

Could you explain to me please what you mean women rape men rape women? I'm not saying this is untrue, but could you elaborate on this a little futher.

[crypter27]

It happened to my uncle when he was 15 at,a party there was a girl,who got him shitfaced drunk. He woke up to find this girl,humping away & he's never been the same,since because the girl. Took his virginity that led me to research this subject,I found many other acounts of women. Raping men. some more violent then most just google it

[PurrfectlyCute]

Source for that BS, thanks. SHOW ME evidence that "women rape more than men".

[crypter27]

What I ment to say is that male rape is on the rise & female rape is dropping,men & women. Are raping men & boys,a little less then men,but women are trailing behind men. When it comes to being perpatraitors of rape,most of of the time women rape boys or girls. Theres also been a,rise in the numbers of female pediphiles.

[ArgusEyes]

I agree 100%.

[foryoutohear]

BRAVO!!!!!!