Bertil Fox incline DB press

[NWpowerhouse85]

I don't want to say his form was lousy, that'd be incorrect, but, doesn't it seem rather awkward how he's doing them??

[gofyerself]

it's incredible to me how he almost did those individually. crazy strength and balancing of the dumbells.

[AMORANTORI]

i knew Bertil firsthand from Dels, "spit and sawdust," gym in Southall, England. I spotted him and knew him outside the gym and he was neither aggressive or a bully.

[pakibuilder]

@AMORANTORI Hey bruv do you know where is dels gym exactly located in southall and is it still open like if i want to workout there ? please do pass any contact details you have about dels gym , thankyou .

[AMORANTORI]

@pakibuilder the gym was in ave road, southall, to the side of southall park, it was a couple of large garages knocked into one, don't know if it still exists. Maybe Del moved into better premises. Bertil also trained at Brunel university, hillingdon, near uxbridge.

[pakibuilder]

@AMORANTORI really he worked out at brunel aswell , then i migh aswell hitt the brunel gym coz i study in brunel uni !.

[kiwihotty]

Bertil was not given a fair trial . If this tragedy would have happened in California instead of a close knit Carribean Island like St Kitts i reckon he would have not been convicted of murder.

[lordraven1980]

and you base this on...what?

[1999drifter]

1989 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 6th

Grand Prix Melbourne - IFBB, 6th

Olympia - IFBB, 11th

World Pro Championships - IFBB, 5th

1992 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 16th

Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, 9th

1994 Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 13th

[1999drifter]

1980 World Championships - WABBA, Professional, 2nd1981 Grand Prix Belgium - IFBB, 5th

1982 Night of Champions - IFBB, 2nd Olympia - IFBB, 8th

1983 Grand Prix Sweden - IFBB, 4th Grand Prix Switzerland - IFBB, 2nd Olympia - IFBB, 5th

1984 World Pro Championships - IFBB, 5th

1986 Olympia - IFBB, 7th

1987 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 9th Night of Champions - IFBB, 7th Olympia - IFBB, 12th

[1999drifter]

1969 Mr Britain - NABBA, Junior, 1st

1970 Mr Britain - NABBA, Junior, 1st

1971 Mr Britain - NABBA, Junior, 1st Mr Europe, Junior, 1st

1976 Mr Britain - NABBA, Winner Mr Europe, Medium, 1st Mr Europe, Overall Winner Mr Universe - NABBA, Medium, 2nd Mr World - AAU, Winner Mr World - AAU, Most Muscular, 1st

Mr World - AAU, Medium, 1st

1977 Mr Universe - NABBA, Medium, 1st Mr Universe - NABBA, Overall Winner

1978 Universe - Pro - NABBA, Winner

1979 Universe - Pro - NABBA, Winner

[1999drifter]

On May 22, 1998, bodybuilder Bertil Fox was convicted of murdering his former fiancee and her mother on the tiny Caribbean isle of St. Kitts. He was originally sentenced to death by hanging, though on Sept 27, 2002 his sentence was changed to life in prison.

[hershl89]

wasn't it his wife and daughter? i blame it on roid rage, although he failed to convince the jury of the effects they can cause apparently

[italiangookie119]

Roid Rage is an over hyped BULLSHIT excuse people use so they don't have to take repsonsibility for their actions. And idiots believe it

[musclemeds2010]

@italiangookie119

are you serious?? anytime you put extra hormones into your body some reaction will occur. in this case higher levels of test and unbalanced estrogen can cause crazy mood swings. roid rage is legit and not an excuse.

[italiangookie119]

@musclemeds2010 im guessing youve never done em so youre talking from no experience. I and all of my friends that have done "roid" know for a fact the whole roid rage BS is an over embellished pile of shit. Simply put: ROIDS DONT TURN YOU INTO AN ASSHOLE. IF YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE ROIDS WILL TURN YOU INTO A BIGGER ASSHOLE. I've seen alcohol make people "rage" WAY MORE then roids ever can. yes it is possible for some people to experience some mood swings but it'll NEVER make you wana go kill someone!!

[werepyrekingshadow]

@italiangookie119 finally someone who knows what is what! roid rage= biggest media BS ever

[italiangookie119]

@werepyrekingshadow unfortunately for everyone of us who know the truth about steroids, there are 1,000 others who believe what the media spoon feeds them and they argue with those false facts till they die instead of finding out the true facts for themselves.

[werepyrekingshadow]

@italiangookie119 yeah... it's a sad story that people obey/believe mass media on everything like lap dogs...

i'd better live my ovn life to achieve my dream or atleast die trying-that'd be worth something than sit in a chair believing steroids cause roid rage be a fat/skinny brainless moron w/o my own opinion and die from a fucking cold or whatever =DDD still its good to know that one form 1,000 knows something dont ever give urself in!

[StanleyKu]

roid rage is a myth.

[DaRealRudeBoy]

soooo 1999drifter..... what was the point of putting those facts on this page?? are you trying to put the fact that this guy was fucking huge on the side, and wanting us to say oh forget him he isn't big because he killed two people???? Fuck You Hater!!

[1999drifter]

On May 22, 1998, bodybuilder Bertil Fox was convicted of murdering his former fiancee and her mother on the tiny Caribbean isle of St. Kitts. He was originally sentenced to death by hanging, though on Sept 27, 2002 his sentence was changed to life in prison.

[1999drifter]

DaRealRudeBoy Ya got me all wrong someone asked about it so I looked up on Wikipedia and posted it here in response. I love this guy and contrary to your thinking that I'm some sort of hater I love the sport of bodybuilding and I could care less about what Bertil Fox did outside the sport in his presonal life, it's just sad that he's in jail and not an advocate for the sport of bodybuilding like Arnold and Haney and Yates...

[DaRealRudeBoy]

ahhh i see then word i apologize i thought you were like some of these other assholes that were trying to make him look like a terrible person and not giving him credit for being the Monster that he was when it came to Bodybuilding.... you have my Respect and Bless

[tomsseries]

form is horrible. Genetic and massive juice. he's now in jail for murding his girlfriend

[dizzydotdot]

err.. is this really about you ?

[aappty]

argue all you want about the man and his technique, but he had more dense muscle on his body than your whole family combined. fox was never one for text books. he just threw up heavy weights all day and grew outrageous muscle mass.

[weightmaster98]

The form here is terrible. I have seen better technique from rank beginners. This is very dangerous and I beleive YouTube should remove this video before they get sued.

[senatus]

WM98,

I don't want to get into a pissing match with you; you're already having it out with a bunch of other guys.

Honestly though, man, you've made a couple of pretty bold claims ... you say you're a natural champion, and you're inclining a pretty respectable poundage -- spotted by California's governor no less :-|

Assuming this is all true, why don't you post a couple of videos -- prove the "haters" wrong?

Btw, you *are* joking about Youtube getting sued over these vids, aren't you?

[ericsgym]

Atrocious form to be sure, but that just goes to show that in the long run, form doesn't mean that much. Bertil Fox was one of the most massive bodybuilders of his era. Ronnie Coleman's form isn't that great either. I like using strict form myself because I like to limit the amount of weight that I use on my worn out joints -- but I still recognize that the amount of weight you lift is what really counts when it comes to building size.

[weightmaster98]

No doubt about it if all you want is size. Form does matter though, especially if you want quality muscle what Bertil sadly lacks. So you see, form does matter. Steve Reeves used to weight 225 at his peak and also used to use 140's for 10X10 in strict form at a 60-degree angle. Reeves wa also drug free, unlike this walking pharmacy FOX.

[ericsgym]

Bertil Fox lacked quality muscle when he was in contest shape??? I don't think so! He won the NABBA Mr. Universe 3 years in a row (77-79) which was considered one of the most prestigious contests back in those days. Sure he took drugs, as all top bodybuilders have since the mid-sixties. Reeves was natural and would have finished dead last in those contests if he were of the same era.

[weightmaster98]

Bertil Fox won the NABBA contests when everybody who was anybody had switched to the IFBB. Boyer Coe also won multi NABBA titles but essentially against no real competition. Apparently you have no clue as to w hat "quality" means. Reeves beat Park who was massive. Zane beat Arnold & Mentzer. Get off the size craze. Fox was a joke!

[ericsgym]

Top bodybuilding judges and tens of thousands of bodybuilder fans from that era disagree with you. Zane beat Arnold once and then never beat him again.

"Get off the size craze"? Size it NOT a craze in bodybuilding, it IS bodybuilding. Look at the last 4 Mr. Olympias that have dominated the last 2 decades - Haney, Yates, Coleman, and Cutler - all the most massive in history.

I have to correct you when you say I don't have a "clue"; you are the one that doesn't seem to understand the sport.

[weightmaster98]

First, who is disagreeing me on what? Zane did beat Arnold once; Zane weighed 180 Arnold weighed 250.

Haney, after Arnold was the greatest of all time. He had size for sure but unlike Fox, it was balanced well. Cutler has the best quality of the freaks of today.

You may disagree with me when I say that you don's have a "clue" however, the only one who needs correction is YOU!

[ericsgym]

weightmaster98:

And what are your credentials that you think you know more about bodybuilding than a pro bodybuilder? Have you won 3 Mr. Universe titles? Have you even accomplished anything in bodybuilding?

What you are is a typical hater: someone who talks the talk against someone who has walked the walk.

[weightmaster98]

So are you trying to tell me that you have won 3 Mr. Universe titles? You know how to talk the talk but cannot walk the walk. The only way you got into any contests was as a towel boy! LOL!

[ericsgym]

weightmaster98:

You said,"So are you trying to tell me that you have won 3 Mr. Universe titles?"

No, Bertil Fox has. That was my question to you since in your previous statements you basically say that you could give Bertil Fox lessons in proper training. You simply avoided answering my question by trying to twist things around.

Obviously, you have no accomplishments at all or you would have stated so.

[weightmaster98]

So you're telling me that you are Bertil Fox and have won 3 Mr. Universe titles? If not, then what qualifies you to access his form and it's effectiveness?? Hmmm???

[ericsgym]

weightmaster98:

I am not the one criticizing his form; you are - remember oh dense one???

What I do speak of is the results he obtained using his form, and regardless of what you say, he developed some amazing muscle using it.

[weightmaster98]

Still waiting for you to apoligize for your comments on how I could not Incline 325X8 at my assumed age which of course you only guessed at. And I have told you b4 that I am a 2x North American Champion & YMCA NAT'L CHAMPION. YOU??

[iconoclastic666]

Hey weightmaster98:

You are a complete idiot. Everything you have said here is a lie and you are stinking up the page with your bullshit.

Grow up and quit bothering everyone.

[weightmaster98]

Oh so now you have created another alias and called yourself iconoclastic666? The only bullshit is from you. If you really trained, you would know the proper excution of an exercise and why this is dangerous and irrational.

[weightmaster98]

iconclastic666 wrote:

Hey weightmaster98:

You are a complete idiot. Everything you have said here is a lie and you are stinking up the page with your bullshit.

Grow up and quit bothering everyone.

Franco, Bill Grant, Ken Kuehn, and many others along with Arnold saw me do this. How are those 15 lb cheating DB curls going these days? LOL!

[rODIUMuk]

@weightmaster98 wow

[spade121981]

If Fox is a joke then why don't you tell him.He did 180lb incline presses shit for brains.

[weightmaster98]

I did 325X8 on Incline Presses, slow and steady and in good form and DRUG FREE and with Arnold spotting okay shit for brains!

[rudeboysw9]

as bertil says time and time again there are no rules to this. do what feels natural for you. If you feel it works better for you one way do it that way. That's how he felt them so that's how he does them. Check out Olympia '93...most cut and mass combo on stage and the crowd went wild. They knew who won ..Robbed....pity he ended up as he did though.

[herculesas]

what the fuck was that?

[1234erer]

Horrible pitiful form

[Martinl792002]

Do u break a sweat with good form? keep ur good form, and i'll cheat my way to gains, the 10 pound dumb bells are 2 the left haha

[maxfrenzi]

Who cares about form. Bertil was strong as hell. I worked out with him in the 80s at Golds. Plus his physique was awesome for his time. I don't believe Reeves did inclines with 160lbs pounders. He was way to thin to push that kind of iron

[weightmaster98]

Terrible form - no wonder his upper pecs were so underpar. As for strength, Reeves and Clancy Ross used to do incline db presses with a pair of 160 lb'ers in good form and without the roids. Reeves used to do these at a 60-degree incline. Fox should have gone into powerlifting or maybe Pro Wrestling.

[StanleyKu]

His upper pecs were freakish! Are you kidding? Reeves was a good lookin guy, But Bertil would swallow him whole.

[weightmaster98]

Fox was much more massive, but was he really better? As Reeves used to say; "If that is what they call better, they can have it!" Who are you anyway, Bertil's cell mate??

[spade121981]

Yeah he was better actually

[Martinl792002]

160's yeah right! screw form, the only old school guys with good physiques are Sergio, then Larry Scott, Mentzer, Callendar and Zane pre-80's. Arnie never shoulda beat Sergio, Franco only won cause he was Arnold's boy. Did Steve Reeves even weigh 160? lol ur full of it!

[DirtyCherokee]

Form doesn't mean a damn thing. Explosive power is what builds size and strength and that's what Bertil knew best. Criticize him when you're physique is as capable as his.

[StanleyKu]

DirtyCherokee....very true. The slo-mo crap burns calories more than builds muscles. It has no real function, unlike explosive training.

[jimsnider34]

What the hell is that suppose to mean?

[Olympia77]

its performance drugs, and every sport is involved with them so you should get used to it. Our Society is a drug society

[jimsnider34]

I'm well aware of that trust me ha

[jimsnider34]

It's illegal you dumbass, that's why

[vk14]

if its illegal y r u watching it!

stick to watching someone lift 20kg dumbells instead then officer of the law!

[Primefuryan]

You think 600mg of testosterone per day will get you that big?! LMAO, you blatently know nothing about the subject, so how about you keep quiet? You can take all the steroids under the sun! It wont do anything without proper diet and solid workouts! Did you happen to see a vial of testosterone lifting those dumbells? Thought not.

How on earth people can criticise somebody who was a bodybuilding great, i have no idea. Keyboard heros eh?

[bumbleator]

he looks really unbalanced there, if he was more balanced he'd have less chance of injuring his back plus he could do more reps.

[wku732]

he does those like that because he does his own thing,he is no copy cat.how you say thats poor form,its his workout

[augydoggy]

Anything works when you are taking 600 mg. of testosterone per day like he was - heavy steroid users never usually learn to workout correctly. Today Bertil is as skinny as a rail since he isn't allowed the juice in prison where the retard is serving life for murdering his wife and mother-in-law with a shotgun. Go ahead and emulate your hero morons.

[roninternational]

How do you know he is skinny? Got any eveidence?

Wrong.

They found a hand gun at the crime scene- not a shot gun.

wrong again

[lizardsy]

It's interesting that he doesn't push up the dumbbells at the same time, the left one goes up first then the right one. I guess he liked doing it that way. Never seen it done like that before.

[Pippiter]

its possible that his left arm may be stronger than his right arm ive got same problem.

[Ladon68]

yea me too, but i try to keep em balanced

[wolfgangle]

brute strength despite bad form, with better technique he could do that with 160s in his last set, a freak

[Beachbum1546]

145's not 140's.

[WZ912]

I DOUBT ANY THESE LOUD MOUTHS! could do DUMBELLROWS! WITH THAT WEIGHT! BERTIL was BRUTAL! HE WAS RONNIE BEFORE RONNIE! And GET OFF OF HIS PERSONAL LIFE! WE KNOW WHAT DID! THAT'S OLD NEWS!

[sideshowlol]

You gotta love that someone like Bertil just messes with so many folk's heads when it comes to form. He did what worked for him. You don't have to do it that way but why knock a guy who is one of the biggest and strongest bbers ever?

[rabidmick]

form was ok to say its a last set in a workout, i seen dumbells dropped on peoples feet half as heavy as those. Bertil was a great guy. Respect to him and god bless him.

[dweebwatcha]

Form was just fine considering the weight and intensity used..

[filcox]

Form was just fine?? You obviously don't work out.

[Duckenheimer]

Ha ha.... no.

[StanleyKu]

He was hge and thick, but that form was just horrible! lol

[StanleyKu]

I take it back, his form is interesting.

[Charlys69]

worse form, "but" best chest in the early 80`s.

It`s only possible with the best genetic.

But Bertil has other, "bigger" Problems, than that...

[JebetheFaithful]

And I'm sure all you guys have participated in a Mr. Olympia. He is using heavy wieght and this is his last set. I'd like to see you two pussies do what he just did.

[nguyen102]

lol he looks like a goof, NO FORM AT ALL

[WZ912]

IT' WOULD LOOK! Even FUNNIER IF YOU! TRIED LIFT THAT!140POUNDS! PROBALY CAN'T EVEN GET THAT OFF THE GROUND!

[Duckenheimer]

I bet he lifts with better form at his own strength level.

[lhslinebacker]

form aint shit

[stoopido316]

worst form ever!