Listen to all these comments below me. Why do scum bags like this exist? "YO YO YO, SUCK MY DICK. YO, YOU'RE MOTHERS A WHORE. YOU LIL PUSSY.". lol , do you people realize how stupid you sound?
@junglemanlawyer1frazier was strictly a hw, he was naturally much heavier, he was a big boned guy, tyson did not have a bigger frame than joe, tysonwas packed of muscle , it is all, and still frazier weighed 2171/2 pounds in 1972 against stander
@combatesdeboxeo Floyd patterson was a class act and a passionate boxer. An athlete like that its rare today, it sickens me when I see people trying to put Mayweather among the greatest ones!
great footage of legendary figures of boxing. Guess you gotta watch it once for the video. then another time for the audio. hey, better than nada though right?
this footage proves that frazier could have fought ali before the layoff in fact he could have fought him 6 months to a year ealier in fact frazier could have fought ali in february of 1967, that chickenhearted mfer like his manager ducking ali before the layoff. why didn't frazier and quarry get drafted along with ali & why didn't they stick up for ali then? they stood up for noone except their own self interest. allthembums rewroted history when they stole alis championship belt, demlosers!!
That's bullshit. Frazier wanted to fight Ali all the time but those Government assholes along with the boxing associations exiled Ali from the ring.
And what'd you mean duck Ali? He gave Ali 3 bouts, the first one he won and the other two Ali won (the Third one by an extremely near margin).
In the 3rd bout Ali wasn't exiled from the ring at all and he'd just beaten Big George Foreman, yet look hoe well Frazier did in that. That was Ali's hardest fight ever and he admitted that.
@Soulblackman That's not true, no way in hell, that's only your bullshit opinion. Frazier always took Ali's best hits in every fight and kept coming back at him, no way Ali could ever KO Frazier, Frazier would keep chasing him up like a lion and battering him with his deadly body shots and left hooks to the jaw... While Ali would keep sticking him with his great jabs and combinations. The fight could go either way. I see them as equals with each other in the ring, they're both legends. RIP Joe.
@truebeliever786 Ali lost his legs after the layoff. He would have DESTROYED Frazier, just as he was about to in II, but Perez "heard" the bell in Round 2. There was NO WAY they were going to allow the white man's BOY to be KOed like that, by Ali. As great as he was after the layoff, he was NEVER as he would have been, if it were not for it. You're as delusional as Frazier, to THINK he won all three fights. That's why in EVERY fight, he looked like he'd been hit by a swarm of wasps.
@Soulblackman You're a fucking dumb shit, Frazier isn't the white man's boy, have some respect, the man just died you dumb fucker. He grew up in the Ghetto and fought against poverty, racism and hunger and rose to an all-time high, he lived the life of a real black man working in the fields, Ali grew up in a white neighbourhood in an easy middle class life, like a white man. Ali didn't lose his legs either. Ali still had great speed, even though not as much as he did before the lay off...
@Soulblackman That's the first thing, the second thing is, Frazier came out Smokin' in every fight. He would've done the same with a prime Ali, he would've given him loads of trouble. I never said Frazier won all 3 fights, stop putting words in my mouth. I said all three fights were great fights and very close fights and they were. Frazier was Ali's kryptonite just as Ali was Foreman and Liston's Kryptonite. Frazier would come to him banging away at him hard shots to the body and the jaw...
@jeryd2003 Frazier would have lost to Ali if they fought in 1967 though, Frazier still was not the Frazier of 1971, and Ali was prime in 1967. Maybe the reason Frazier avoided Ali in 67 as you said...
A TRUE STORY ABOUT JOE FRAZIER: I was at a sport dinner at the Plaza in NY when I was 13 years old, it was a sport dinner for Reggie Jackson. I asked Reggie for his autograph and he said he was eating—while he held a breadstick in his hand. Joe saw me feeling down and called me over, "Come here kid I'll give you my autograph" I thanked him and then he said to Reggie, you do that to one more kid and i'll take care of you real good. Man, my eyes became wide open with joy and I never forgot that.
@clearcombat Met Joe myself in Ctr City Phila. He was a Very Nice Guy. Spoke with him for a few minutes,told him I'd admired not only his ability but but his 'never say die' work ethic. His hand was as big as a catchers mitt. Glad he straightened Reggie out. Got a card to come into the Gym.with his autograph on it. His Aura was incredible!!
Hey TerminatorC.....you sound like YOU got more sugar in your tank than anybody commenting on here !!!!!!!!!!!! Matter of fact you prolly wearing a Hott Pink Thong..LOL
A TRUE STORY ABOUT JOE FRAZIER: I was at a sport dinner at the Plaza in NY when I was 13 years old, it was a sport dinner for Reggie Jackson. I asked Reggie for his autograph and he said he was eating—while he held a breadstick in his hand. Joe saw me feeling down and called me over, "come here kid I'll give you my autograph" I thanked him and then he said to Reggie, you do that to one more kid and i'll take care of you real good. Man, my eyes became wide open with joy and I never forgot that.
When Durham said "no comment on jerry, jerry lookin real good.." he said it with a smile because he didnt want to say too much, he knew Joe would crush him, which he definately did later that year or early 1968.
@rediculousnicholas Not true at all. Durham had the utmost respect for Jerry Quarry, and said "No comment" because at the time he was watching Quarry's progress very carefully as any good (or great) trainer like Yancy Durham would.And Frazier did NOT "crush" Quarry in their first fight. Those two fighters slammed at each each other for the entire fight until the fight was stopped due to Jerry's cut that he had received from a left hook in the third.
@munchkiecocoa You're right. Yank kept Joe away from Quarry until HE KNEW he was ready. They had sparred early on & by most accts,Jerry got the better of it. I was a Huge JF fan & I even worried about him fighting Quarry esp after what I saw Quarry do to Thad Spencer .
@rediculousnicholas that fight was in 69. Yank knew Joe could beat anyone---thats why Joe got away with not boxing in the WBA tournament---they knew he just had to fight the winner
All you faggots on here stop dissing Joe Frazier and stop dissing Muhammad Ali. Appreciate these living legends while you still can and show them proper respect.
You'll die and nobody will give a damn. They've already established themselves in history through their accomplishments and will be remembered for the rest of time. Long after anybody who gave a fuck about you or knew your names breathes their last breath!
I have been following boxing for over 25 years and I have never seen this video. It epitomises the great fighters of the 60's, great sportsmanship and respect between Frazier, Patterson and Quarry. These class acts are virtually non existent in sports today. Thanks for posting.
Ouch. He called Ali Clay, who was going by Ali for a long time by then. Then Frazier spent the rest of his career whining about Ali bad mouthing him. Had they fought then, Frazier would have been knocked out, or been a pin cushion for lighting combos.
Frazier was great in his own right. Put Frazier's heart and mind in Mike Tyson, Tyson wouldn't have never been beaten until he hit his mid 30's. Frazier and Ali gave us so much. They were both the real deal, we've had pretenders ever since.
Is it lost on anyone that Frazier is calling Ali "Clay" in this interview from 1967, 3 years before their first fight, when he was assuredly aware that name got under Ali's skin?
I respect Frazier but its absurd to make him out as some kind of babe in the woods who treated Ali well and then was stabbed in the back by Ali's insults.
Actually I didn't know that. But my point still stands. Ali characterized Frazier as "ignorant" and one who blindly followed the crowd. Its not like his rhetoric on Frazier was coming out of left field.
@RonnieLeeDuck Well,It was rhetoric and Ali followed a different crowd (A crowd nonetheless)that probably would have killed him if he's tried to break away. He wasn't real tolerant with Blacks who didn't agree with his point of view Nobody who truly knew Joe Frazier ever referred to him as an Uncle Tom,Except Ali. And believe me,Nobody had to say a word to sell tickets to the first fight,: It was the fight just about everyone wanted to see.
@Nickcat5 The NOI wouldn't have killed him if he tried to break away. Ali was very tolerant and got along quite well with many blacks who didn't agree with his POV. "Uncle Tom" is a highly subjective term. You can make a good case Ali shouldn't have said it. But like it or not Frazier did meet some of the elements of what the definition of an Uncle Tom is. Ali wasn't just using that term out of left field.
@RonnieLeeDuck Looks like we're going top have to agree to disagree,Ronnie. Ali was hard on Bundini about his Faith(Jewish) Later on he did become more tolrerant,But he thru that UT tag at Frazier in a relatively successful attempt at alienating Blacks aginst Joe. I've met several people who knew Joe and nobody but nobody ever suggested that he was in a role of subserviant black. Met him myself once,His aura is incredible.
@Nickcat5 Not sure where you get your info from. Ali had a problem with Bundini's drinking and pursuit of white women. He also proselytized like any religion does. That's not being hard on his religion. In re: to Uncle Tom. As an average citizen Joe may have not been a subservient. But he rose to be a heavy weight champion. Its in that capacity that Ali had a problem. Frazier growing up and staying in black communities in and of itself doesn't make him free of the charge.
@RonnieLeeDuck I ask you the same question,Where do you get your Info? Bundini's pursuit of WW should have been none of Ali's business,If he were as tolerant as suggested, Now,What do you base your opinion of Frazier on? What did he do to warrant that 'title'? As I said before,No one who knew him ever said that,and for what it's worth,Ali in his own book(THe Greatest) said he(Frazier) wouldn't qualify as an UT. Keep in ming that the avg peson has opinions also
@Nickcat5 I get my info from Ali's bio. As one of Ali's very close personal friends it actually was Ali's business to criticize it. What I said wasn't my opinion. My opinion on this is that Ali wasn' t just throwing out words w/o substance behind them. As a white man I never would have called Frazier an Uncle Tom. But unlike Ali Frazier the fighter was owned and managed by whites, he passively supported the war, and called Ali "Clay".
@RonnieLeeDuck I get mine from his also,several of them & I've followed his & Joe's since the '60's. Ali had Faversham & Co as his original backers(Upon expiration,the NOI) What group of Black Businessmen tried to back Frazier? NONE! Alot of people WEREN'T against the was,Does that make them sell-outs. Ali's spiritual leader was against all wars the U.S was involved in,Wanted the U.S to lose WW2. If I went around telling my friends what color of women they should date,what would I be called.
@Nickcat5 The only real problem I have with your posts is that you making stuff up to make Ali look bad. NOI didn't want the US "to lose WW2". They didn't want to fight the war. Two totally different things. I have no idea what you would be called by your friends if you did that. The plain fact is that Ali remained steadfast friends with Bundini and got along quite well with countless people of the Jewish and Christian faith.
@RonnieLeeDuck Making up stuff? Do you really think I originated some of this! It was reported that Elijah Muhammed was heard to say that he hoped the Japenese would win over the U.S .Make Ali look bad? How much power do you think I have? You criticize someone and I't s O.K? What would I be called If I questioned another man(or woman) choices? A Racist I know they stayed friends,that doesn't change facts(They did part company for a bit in the mid sixties) This had gotten way out of hand.
@Nickcat5 "It was reported that EM was heard to say...?" That is what you base it on? All that is really known is that EM evaded the draft in WW2. What Ali critics fail to grasp is how much Ali was hated and punished by the establishment for simply exercising his right of religious freedom and very reasonably saying he wasn't going to fight Vietnamese on the other side of the world when white Americans are suppressing the rights of blacks in his own country.
@RonnieLeeDuck How about this. The Duke himself, John Wayne, great American icon, great western actor, great war movie actor, was a fucking draft dodger. Ali did what he did for a reason and he didn't hide behind anything to do it. He stood up and faced the government and paid a price for his beliefs. John Wayne had his movie producers take care of the politicians and get him out of service. He then spent his whole career fooloing people that he was some sort of hero because of the guilt he felt
@bandit7498 John Wayne had a medical condition that was why he wasn't drafted. Ali didn't believe in the war, The people over there didn't do anything to him, etc, didn't see the sense in risking his life for a small sum etc.
@hydrolito No John Wayne didn't. His movie career was taking off and he didn't want to put it at risk. He had his movie producers petition film after film for deferments so he would not have to go. After the Hollywood big wigs were done he went from 1-A to 2-A, which he remained the duration of the war. He didn't illegally dodge the draft, but he made no effort to do his part either. Even his wife stated that he felt guilty the rest of his life for it. Ali had a real reason for what he did.
@Nickcat5 It was only on the luck of a legal snafu that Ali didn't go to prison. He lost millions not able to fight. He clearly stood up for what millions of blacks in the 60s were afraid to say and sacrificed a helluva lot for it. Given from where Ali was coming from, calling another black man an "Uncle Tom" for reasons I stated may have not been right but it was extremely understandable and tame on Ali's part.
@capablemachine The fact is Frazier helped himself to try to get a fight with Ali. In the end Frazier didn't do anything that helped Ali get back in the ring.
@capablemachine Wrong. Ali fought in Georgia against Quarry because there was no state athletic commission and some key local politicians were given money from the gate for letting it happen. He then fought in NY because the NAACP successfully filed suit in federal court that it was discrimination. NY it turned out had been licensing murderers and felons for years. Nixon had nothing to do with it. Take your false information elsewhere. Or get rid of it.
@capablemachine ---u r right---it wasnt tame by any means. But Frazier attempting to help Ali ger his license back was as much for his own interests---they were clearly the best 2 fighters, both undefeated, both former gold medalists, each with a valid claim to the title
@Nickcat5 ---back in those days, a lot of Black Power radicals dominated the scene and were grabbing the headlines. They thought King was too moderate and referred to him as a Tom. Ali was promoting himself and building up press for the fight. He had a derogatory for nearly all of his opponents. Frazier ws insulted worse because of the magnitude of their fight
@loyaldude10 Believe me,Those two didn't have to say a word to each other & that that fight would've sold out. Ali would say vicious things about people then weasel out of it later by minimizing it as hype. By the time Ali / Frazier 1 had taken plcae,MLK.Jr was dead almost 4 yrs.
@RonnieLeeDuck It shouldn't be lost on anyone that Ali called everybody anything but their names,Then was upset when he wasn't shown the respect he wanted. Ali himself was full of psych-out tactics,so if he could dish it out,he should be able to take it.. Everytime Ali was called on his behavior,He would play semantics games,I.E 'I wasn't hitting Ernie Terrell I was hitting hs white backers' (or something to that effect) Pure Crap!!
@Nickcat5 Maybe. But you don't dispute my point. And Ali was able to take other people dishing it out. Even Frazier credits him with that. Plus Ali mainly kept his talk to an act. Calling Liston "the Bear" and "Ugly" was largely in response to Liston cultivating an image of a terrifying figure. Liston's cold stare was his own act. It was public images that were fair game. He largely stayed away from the private persona.
@RonnieLeeDuck Well to put it simply,If you can't call me by my name,I'm not likely to call you by years,no matter what the reason. Sometimes it was personal, a la Patterson -Rabbit,Terrell & Frazier- UncleTom. ,calling Cooper a Bum & a Cripple,etc etc. As I mentioned before,Ali was prone to semantics.
At that point most of the world, save Howard Cosell, called Ali "Clay." The public didn't widely accept his new name until after his 3-1/2 year exile.
@RonnieLeeDuck He continued doing it well into the 70s as well. Even emphasizing it! So I don't feel bad for him at all. The insults made him more money if anything. Had Ali not been Ali but Patterson, he woulda made maybe 10% of what he made with "Clay".
@RonnieLeeDuck he was aware of the name change but its difficult to not say clay when you have known him as clay for ever,especially when general public still called him clay,ali insulted fraziers family and frazier himself all the time by calling him a slave a gorilla and was even racist toward him and they are the same color,ali is the slave he is a slave to elijah muhammad and the islam nation.all these famous quotes were fed to him by the islam nation,he did what he was told when he was told
@KIWIAZALWAYS Something I was to realize about Ali later on. He was not his own man as much as he wanted to believe himself. It was actually one of the reasons his first wife,Sonja,was so resistant to him after a while. All in all,He (Ali) was a Great Fighter,(Maybe the 'Greatest',as he would say) Who without a doubt did much for Boxing,Especially the Hvwt Division.
yea quarry a hell of a fighter too.while he was great fighter he did no measure up to ali or frazier.quarry knocked out shavers in 1 round.only two guys who wre not champions ever beat him.chuvalo[a true bad ass,and eddie machen,a real journey man].9 pot of 10 pros wouldnt even think of beating quarry,but he was no ali.
ali was the best ever he told it like it is joe was good to and jerry but ali was number 1 in his prime..by the time he fight joe it was relly like over what if it was 67 when he fight joe he would of crush him
Former heavyweight boxing champion Joe Frazier recently was arrested in North Philadelphia for assaulting a woman in a domestic dispute, police said.
Frazier, 60, was charged with simple assault and reckless endangerment, police said.
Someone called 911 from the home and when police arrived, a woman who opened the door had injuries to her lip and face and alleged that Frazier struck her
Former heavyweight boxing champion Joe Frazier recently was arrested in North Philadelphia for assaulting a woman in a domestic dispute, police said.
Frazier, 60, was charged with simple assault and reckless endangerment, police said.
Someone called 911 from the home and when police arrived, a woman who opened the door had injuries to her lip and face and alleged that Frazier struck her
Former heavyweight champion Joe Frazier, 60, was arrested in February 2004 and charged with simple assault and reckless endangerment. According to Philadelphia cops, Smokin' Joe's victim was the 44-year-old mother of one of his sons
@MrPalspal Above you say 'recently' arrested. While I won't defend such behavior,Yours isn't a lot better. Get your facts straight,and do not forget he wasn't convicted of anything.
Former heavyweight boxing champion Joe Frazier recently was arrested in North Philadelphia for assaulting a woman in a domestic dispute, police said.
Frazier, 60, was charged with simple assault and reckless endangerment, police said.
Someone called 911 from the home and when police arrived, a woman who opened the door had injuries to her lip and face and alleged that Frazier struck her
Frazier petitioned to the president to get Ali's boxing license reinstated, so that he could fight him some day. Now that's what you call a great sportsman. Ali alledgedly never thanked him for it.
Uncle Tom? Let's see, what does that mean? Hmmm...I know: A black man that doesn't blame white people for his problems, one who loves this country, does what he is supposed to do, and doesn't feel he is owed anything by society. Yep, Frazier sure was an Uncle Tom!
Joe Frazier. A real sportsman. Gentleman. No loud mouth noise and a man who had respect. It will be Joe remembered in 200 years time, in both history and character.
Yancy Durham was pure gold. So was Smokin' Joe, Floyd Patterson, and Jerry Quarry. Someone like Yank Durham was not one to throw compliments to fighters for no legitimate reason. Yank respected Jerry Quarry genuinely. And for the trainer and manager of one of boxing's truly immortal figures like Joe Frazier, that's a laudable honor. These guys had class, guts, and knew how to fight. Golden Era of the heavyweights? Goddamn right!
Very well stated. And I do think Quarry would have been quite comfortable in there against Marciano. Rocky was an underrated boxer but Jerry was a more accomplished stylist, no question. Power belongs to Marciano for sure but Jerry had an iron chin. I think Quarry wins by unanimous decision in a tough, tough fight.
@loyaldude10 Actually, Jerry would have backed up a lot, gone to his right all night long and slugged inside whenever it suited him. And anything Marciano threw Jerry could take and given it right back to him in spades. Jerry by UD in a rugged affair. And he'd repeat that win again & again. Marciano didn't beat one outstanding fighter in their prime. He barely beat contender Roland LaStarza in a disputed decision before he won the title. Everyone else was well past it.
@Kedbuka ---he beat Walcott twice---Walcott was an unusual fighter who acctually peaked in his mid-late 30s. Louis was obviously way past his prime, and Charles may have been also. You could make exact same argument re Ali----Liston was aging, and may have been older than listed (supposedly born in 1932, but some say earlier)--so at least 32 in 1st Ali fight. Cleveland Wms, Z Folley, Archie Moore (older than when Rocky fought him) all way past prime. Even Frazier in 2d fight was not the same.
@loyaldude10 So you're saying Ali never beat any fighter who was in his prime? That's what you meant, right? That's gotta' be one of the silliest remarks I've ever read on YouTube--and that's really saying something because there's a shitload of dumb comments here. Liston was 34 and fully in his prime when Ali, a 7-to-1 underdog, beat him. And what of Foreman? Quarry? Frazier? Terrell? Ellis? Norton? Lyle? Shavers? Folley? Chuvalo? Shavers? Dude, get real...or wake up. Geez...
@Kedbuka --I didnt say he never beat anyone in his prime--I said same argument could be made, meaning a lot of ali's opponenets were not in prime. Ali beat Liston soundly, but sonny was pretty much inactive for prior yr or so,and was aging. Frazier was on his way down by 2d fight., Quarry was in his prime, but Ellis past his. Lyle was in prime, as was Norton (but look at how Ali eeked by Norton, and really lost twice, if not 3X). Shavers was in his prime, as was Chuvalo, but Folley way past his
@loyaldude10 So a lot of Ali's opponents weren't in their prime. What I said, however, was that Marciano "DIDN'T BEAT ONE OUTSTANDING FIGHTER IN THEIR PRIME." I stand by that statement. And you didn't rebut it. And I still think Quarry would have handled Rock in a tough fight, which was the original point of our exchange.
@Kedbuka --look at the other comment I made---Jersey Joe Walcott was in his prime when Marciano KO'd him. Walcott was slick ---could punch and had great footwork. He knocked Joe Louis down twice and was somehow robbed of the decision. Ezzard Charles may have been a little past his prime when he fought Rocky, but not by much---was only 2 yrs older than Rocky. But both Charles and Walcott were way better than the Ali opponents you mentioned, except Frazier and Foreman. Both were very underrated
@loyaldude10 Walcott was hardly in his prime when KO'd by Marciano. He was 38 years old and had won the title on his FIFTH attempt. His prime years were about five to seven years earlier. Furthermore, in his rematch against Marciano, Walcott went out in the first round so he got old real fast. Ezzard Charles was a blown up light-heavyweight, and a very good one at that. But neither was "way better" than Ellis, Norton, Lyle, Shavers, Quarry, et al. They were all top class in their prime years.
@Kedbuka -Walcott was in his prime. Had finally beaten Charles (2X) after losing 2X to him. He peaked late in career. What difference is it if Charles was a lt heavywt first? Look what he did to marciano's nose in first fight. Rumor is that Charles didnt use all his punching power, since an early opponent died after a fight. Both of these guys were far superior to these other guys and underrated. Ellis should never have been WBA champ--was given a gift decision over Patterson in tournament.
@loyaldude10 Ellis won the title by majority decision over Quarry. He defended it one time against Patterson in Sweden and the fans thought Floyd won but the NY Times scored it for Ellis. JE was trained & managed by Angelo Dundee, who said Ellis was one of the most talented fighters he's ever had. As for Charles, he knocked out Sam Baroudi, who later died from his injuries. Charles was severely traumatized by but came back to knock out his next two opponents. Do some research, bro'...
@Kedbuka ---so 1 judge thought Quarry beat Ellis--and Jerry had a bad night, I recall. Patterson was robbed (at 33 yrs old)---no way Ellis deserved the decision. Dundee can call him talented; he was not very good compared to other champions.Look what Frazier did to him! And u missed my point re Charles---I didnt say he never ko'd anyone else, I said he may have held back a little after Baroudi death. Read what I wrote and interpret it correctly, will ya?
@loyaldude10 i agree with u that norton beat ali in their second fight: heres the evidence: norton face was all puffy at the end of the fight, norton was frustrated all night because ali wouldn't let him hit him while on the ropes, although norton did get two free shots in while ali was on the ropes. also when the judges and 95% of the people say ali won 11 of 12 rounds... well... that means like u say norton won the fight.
Ali won the second fight but Norton won the First and the Third.The Third fight was reasonably even until the last seconds when Norton landed a barrage of punches.
Norton was robbed in their Third Fight.
But even then, Norton loves Ali and is honoured, because without Ali he wouldn't be remembered at all. Ali put Norton in the spotlight and made him money and made him recognised by the world when Norton beat him in March 1973. Before that Norton had a hard time earning a living.
jerry may have been a good heavyweight but one of the betterheavyies of al time? explosive thin man>? are you serious? he was fun to watch and could beat the tuf fighters but you have to beat the best to be in the all time greatness category
Jerry Quarry beat men who gave Ali, Frazier, Foreman, and Norton either fits or trips to hell. And Quarry handled those same guys like they were babies. The only two fighters in Jerry's prime that could genuinely be called better were Ali and Frazier. Foreman avoided him, and Norton waited until Jerry was this side of a nursing home to fight him, and even then Jerry was in the fight until he was cut.
jerry could probably beat dr Klit(or perhaps not since he was barely 6ft) or some of the other lousy heavies of today, meaning he was 1 tough irish sonofabitch/i liked him, but to say he was one of the greatest, when he wasn't even that in his own era? he lost to ellis, machen, chuvalo, frazier twice, ali twice and pretty easily, perhaps norton got him old, but im sorry he was a perfect style for foreman to put a beating on, see what happened to the tougher smoking joe! jerry was a decent man!
Quarry went into the Ellis fight with a broken back. And in the Chuvalo fight, he misread the referee's count, just trying to take full advantage of the count when he was handily winning the fight. He did VERY well against Frazier and Ali (two of the top five all-time greats in my view) before being cut. Jerry would have tackled Marciano and other champs like it was nothing. Many champs had titles won against dead men and chumps. He didn't. That's the only difference.
jerry was good, he beat Lyle and Shavers, true had a controversial ending against Chuvalo. But to say that he would have beaten Marciano? Most experts would disagree...but yes jerry was an exciting fighter, he just could not quite rise to the top against the Fraziers/Alis, and heaven help him -he didnt face Foreman....he did have a good career with alot of heart and emotion in his rugged fights/but to make excuses for all his losses sounds like JCChavez at the end of his career, crying foul!
@munchkiecocoa --Jerry definitely should have won Chuvalo fight. Didnt see Ellis fight---heard it was dull, and seeign how bad Ellis looked against patterson (ridiculous that he was awarded decision) surprising that jerry lost. Didnt know he was injured, but that would explain it
@munchkiecocoa --Foreman did not want to fight him. But he knew he would get title shot anyway, if he kept winning. Norton didnt become prominent until he beat Ali in 73. He then fought rematch w/ Ali and got the title shot against Foreman following yr. He really didnt have to fight Jerry, whose skills may have been declining by then. It was self-interests more so than being afraid of losing to someone.
The very end of the clip Joe throws a finishing left hook into the heavy bag; it's short, fast, powerful...perfect.
Durham's comments about Quarry, though muted, are pure class. As the other posters have noted, Yank and Joe had lots of respect for Quarry, who was a skilled warrior. Poor timing, that's all.
Wow, thanks so much for uploading this clip. Too see Joe so young, to hear Yank Durham during that interview...what a treat! Anybody guess Yank's nickname for Joe? Yep, that's right: "cocksucker."
Quarry looks like a kid at the weigh-in. That's Jimmy Lennon there announding the fighters' weights. He was the real deal. Great voice and spoke fluent Spanish, which meant a lot to all those Mexicans filling up the Olympic Auditorium. Thanks again for the clip!
If I remember it right, Joe said that Yank had a way of using swear words quite a bit that really cracked him up (his words). He said that when he won the title--I think it was against Jimmy Ellis--Yank climbed through the ropes and said, "Cocksuker, we done it!"
There was a reason why all the major black fighters, and fighters and managers in general, respected Jerry Quarry. He was damn good. One of the best. Yancy Durham had a hell of a lot more respect for Quarry than he did Jimmy Ellis. So did Frazier and George Foreman. It is sad that mainstream sports fans only remember him for his high profile losses. They forget ], though, that he gave Frazier hell in their first fight, and was coming on in the first Ali fight before the cut.
Yes. Jerry was the real deal. He beat Shavers, Lyle, Mac Foster, and Floyd. One of the better heavyweights of alltime. If he didnt have the cut problem he wouldve been even tougher.
jerry may have been a good heavyweight but one of the betterheavyies of al time? explosive thin man>? are you serious? he was fun to watch and could beat the tuf fighters but you have to beat the best to be in the all time greatness category
Listen to all these comments below me. Why do scum bags like this exist? "YO YO YO, SUCK MY DICK. YO, YOU'RE MOTHERS A WHORE. YOU LIL PUSSY.". lol , do you people realize how stupid you sound?
saulhudson420 2 months ago
Not enough is known about Yank Durham.
Soulblackman 2 months ago
Man, Frasier was quite a small Heavyweight!
junglemanlawyer1 4 months ago
@junglemanlawyer1frazier was strictly a hw, he was naturally much heavier, he was a big boned guy, tyson did not have a bigger frame than joe, tysonwas packed of muscle , it is all, and still frazier weighed 2171/2 pounds in 1972 against stander
combatesdeboxeo 3 months ago
@junglemanlawyer1 who was small like hell was patterson he looks like a bantamweight compared with frazier.
combatesdeboxeo 3 months ago
@combatesdeboxeo Floyd patterson was a class act and a passionate boxer. An athlete like that its rare today, it sickens me when I see people trying to put Mayweather among the greatest ones!
junglemanlawyer1 3 months ago
Please re upload! One of the greatest things in boxing has been tarnished... this video was exceptional to all boxing fans...
Please reupload!
BoxingPride 5 months ago
great footage of legendary figures of boxing. Guess you gotta watch it once for the video. then another time for the audio. hey, better than nada though right?
paz/peace/salam/shalom
translationwiz 5 months ago
Wow. The great Jerry Quarry. The legendary Joe Frazier. Two icons, in their own right. 'Can't forget about Floyd Patterson. :) !
soulinthewall77 8 months ago
this footage proves that frazier could have fought ali before the layoff in fact he could have fought him 6 months to a year ealier in fact frazier could have fought ali in february of 1967, that chickenhearted mfer like his manager ducking ali before the layoff. why didn't frazier and quarry get drafted along with ali & why didn't they stick up for ali then? they stood up for noone except their own self interest. allthembums rewroted history when they stole alis championship belt, demlosers!!
jeryd2003 9 months ago
@jeryd2003
That's bullshit. Frazier wanted to fight Ali all the time but those Government assholes along with the boxing associations exiled Ali from the ring.
And what'd you mean duck Ali? He gave Ali 3 bouts, the first one he won and the other two Ali won (the Third one by an extremely near margin).
In the 3rd bout Ali wasn't exiled from the ring at all and he'd just beaten Big George Foreman, yet look hoe well Frazier did in that. That was Ali's hardest fight ever and he admitted that.
truebeliever786 8 months ago
@truebeliever786 If not for the exile, Ali KOs Frazier by 6 rounds, each fight.
Soulblackman 3 months ago
@Soulblackman That's not true, no way in hell, that's only your bullshit opinion. Frazier always took Ali's best hits in every fight and kept coming back at him, no way Ali could ever KO Frazier, Frazier would keep chasing him up like a lion and battering him with his deadly body shots and left hooks to the jaw... While Ali would keep sticking him with his great jabs and combinations. The fight could go either way. I see them as equals with each other in the ring, they're both legends. RIP Joe.
truebeliever786 3 months ago
@truebeliever786 Ali lost his legs after the layoff. He would have DESTROYED Frazier, just as he was about to in II, but Perez "heard" the bell in Round 2. There was NO WAY they were going to allow the white man's BOY to be KOed like that, by Ali. As great as he was after the layoff, he was NEVER as he would have been, if it were not for it. You're as delusional as Frazier, to THINK he won all three fights. That's why in EVERY fight, he looked like he'd been hit by a swarm of wasps.
Soulblackman 3 months ago
@Soulblackman You're a fucking dumb shit, Frazier isn't the white man's boy, have some respect, the man just died you dumb fucker. He grew up in the Ghetto and fought against poverty, racism and hunger and rose to an all-time high, he lived the life of a real black man working in the fields, Ali grew up in a white neighbourhood in an easy middle class life, like a white man. Ali didn't lose his legs either. Ali still had great speed, even though not as much as he did before the lay off...
truebeliever786 3 months ago
@Soulblackman That's the first thing, the second thing is, Frazier came out Smokin' in every fight. He would've done the same with a prime Ali, he would've given him loads of trouble. I never said Frazier won all 3 fights, stop putting words in my mouth. I said all three fights were great fights and very close fights and they were. Frazier was Ali's kryptonite just as Ali was Foreman and Liston's Kryptonite. Frazier would come to him banging away at him hard shots to the body and the jaw...
truebeliever786 3 months ago
@Soulblackman FRAZIER A WHITE MANS BOY????
LOOK AT WHERE HE GROWED UP U DIRTY JEW
smokinlefthook 2 months ago
@smokinlefthook He became the white man's boy, to be the anti-Ali. In the meantime, you speak like you grew DOWN in the GUTTER!
Soulblackman 2 months ago
@Soulblackman U SPEAK LIKE A LIL WHITE PUSSY
U ARE THE UNCLE TOM
FAGGOT
GO SUCK JEWS DICKS WHILE UNCLE SAM IS BANGING UR ASS
smokinlefthook 2 months ago
@smokinlefthook By point:
1) Your father
2) Your father and mother
3) YOU
4) You're projecting what YOU want to be done to YOU or BY you!
Soulblackman 2 months ago
@Soulblackman GO SUCK A DICK U TOUGH HOUSE NIGGA
smokinlefthook 2 months ago
@jeryd2003 Frazier would have lost to Ali if they fought in 1967 though, Frazier still was not the Frazier of 1971, and Ali was prime in 1967. Maybe the reason Frazier avoided Ali in 67 as you said...
vladiator100 8 months ago
@jeryd2003 Yes. Frazier TALKED about how Ali didn't go to 'Nam, but he damn sure, did NOT volunteer, himself (not that I blame him).
Soulblackman 3 months ago
It looks like one of those old Kung Fu movies with the dubbing
adampower1973 9 months ago
I literally can't hear a word Joe is saying in his interview.
pnutbutrncrackers 10 months ago
I love Joe Frazier. I got a signed autograph from him:
'To Hussain, Right on' and then Joe's signature on it.
truebeliever786 11 months ago
Nice video, nice to see three great fighters with respect for each other and themselves. The way a lot of fighters act today is a disgrace.
davisreardon 1 year ago 10
hey can you reupload this? the sound is messed up :(
img6493 1 year ago 13
A TRUE STORY ABOUT JOE FRAZIER: I was at a sport dinner at the Plaza in NY when I was 13 years old, it was a sport dinner for Reggie Jackson. I asked Reggie for his autograph and he said he was eating—while he held a breadstick in his hand. Joe saw me feeling down and called me over, "Come here kid I'll give you my autograph" I thanked him and then he said to Reggie, you do that to one more kid and i'll take care of you real good. Man, my eyes became wide open with joy and I never forgot that.
clearcombat 1 year ago
@clearcombat Met Joe myself in Ctr City Phila. He was a Very Nice Guy. Spoke with him for a few minutes,told him I'd admired not only his ability but but his 'never say die' work ethic. His hand was as big as a catchers mitt. Glad he straightened Reggie out. Got a card to come into the Gym.with his autograph on it. His Aura was incredible!!
Nickcat5 1 year ago
@clearcombat Aww, that's a nice story. He seems like a very nice person.
Sandu1982 1 year ago
Man look at the sound that comes when Joe hits the bag. Damn!
He's freaking strong man.
truebeliever786 1 year ago
@truebeliever786 --with a devastating left hook too
loyaldude10 1 year ago
Imagine being hit but that. SHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTT!
truebeliever786 1 year ago
GREAT upload sir!!! Loved the footage of Joe on the heavybag!
XionComrade 1 year ago
Thank YOU !
ringworks 1 year ago
video and audio do not match! fix it!
bebillious 1 year ago
193 and 194. just cruisers in today's world.
andrelebaron 1 year ago
Hey TerminatorC.....you sound like YOU got more sugar in your tank than anybody commenting on here !!!!!!!!!!!! Matter of fact you prolly wearing a Hott Pink Thong..LOL
Silly Azz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gbrown4x4 1 year ago
@gbrown4x4 Man I'd make you eat those words. You should thank God for anonymity. If you didn't have it I'd probably put you in a coma.
TerminatorC 1 year ago
A TRUE STORY ABOUT JOE FRAZIER: I was at a sport dinner at the Plaza in NY when I was 13 years old, it was a sport dinner for Reggie Jackson. I asked Reggie for his autograph and he said he was eating—while he held a breadstick in his hand. Joe saw me feeling down and called me over, "come here kid I'll give you my autograph" I thanked him and then he said to Reggie, you do that to one more kid and i'll take care of you real good. Man, my eyes became wide open with joy and I never forgot that.
clearcombat 1 year ago
@clearcombat That's tight man
JDavisACN 1 year ago
@clearcombat ---great story. Good example of their respective personalities
loyaldude10 1 year ago
When Durham said "no comment on jerry, jerry lookin real good.." he said it with a smile because he didnt want to say too much, he knew Joe would crush him, which he definately did later that year or early 1968.
rediculousnicholas 1 year ago
@rediculousnicholas Not true at all. Durham had the utmost respect for Jerry Quarry, and said "No comment" because at the time he was watching Quarry's progress very carefully as any good (or great) trainer like Yancy Durham would.And Frazier did NOT "crush" Quarry in their first fight. Those two fighters slammed at each each other for the entire fight until the fight was stopped due to Jerry's cut that he had received from a left hook in the third.
munchkiecocoa 1 year ago
@munchkiecocoa ---right. Joe clearly was winning, but Jerry prob injured his hand during fight
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@munchkiecocoa You're right. Yank kept Joe away from Quarry until HE KNEW he was ready. They had sparred early on & by most accts,Jerry got the better of it. I was a Huge JF fan & I even worried about him fighting Quarry esp after what I saw Quarry do to Thad Spencer .
Nickcat5 1 year ago
@rediculousnicholas that fight was in 69. Yank knew Joe could beat anyone---thats why Joe got away with not boxing in the WBA tournament---they knew he just had to fight the winner
loyaldude10 1 year ago
All you faggots on here stop dissing Joe Frazier and stop dissing Muhammad Ali. Appreciate these living legends while you still can and show them proper respect.
You'll die and nobody will give a damn. They've already established themselves in history through their accomplishments and will be remembered for the rest of time. Long after anybody who gave a fuck about you or knew your names breathes their last breath!
TerminatorC 1 year ago
@TerminatorC True. Although you should maybe pass that advice on to Frazier and Ali too.
RonnieLeeDuck 1 year ago
Jimmy Lennon Sr I presume? Amazing his son sounds exactly like him.
TerminatorC 1 year ago
@TerminatorC Just Jimmy Lennon. Jr. is his son.
bandit7498 1 year ago
Love Joe Frazier,We had so little to cheer about in Philly then. So Working Class!!
Nickcat5 1 year ago
@Nickcat5 ---but u had some really good boxers, in addition to Joe
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@loyaldude10 You're so right!! The Hvwt division hasn't come close since then,with a few exceptions.
Nickcat5 1 year ago
I have been following boxing for over 25 years and I have never seen this video. It epitomises the great fighters of the 60's, great sportsmanship and respect between Frazier, Patterson and Quarry. These class acts are virtually non existent in sports today. Thanks for posting.
davisreardon 1 year ago
Ouch. He called Ali Clay, who was going by Ali for a long time by then. Then Frazier spent the rest of his career whining about Ali bad mouthing him. Had they fought then, Frazier would have been knocked out, or been a pin cushion for lighting combos.
Frazier was great in his own right. Put Frazier's heart and mind in Mike Tyson, Tyson wouldn't have never been beaten until he hit his mid 30's. Frazier and Ali gave us so much. They were both the real deal, we've had pretenders ever since.
frankdrebin 1 year ago
Great video and great music too go along with it.
Fit perfectly 5 stars
BoxingPride 2 years ago
Is it lost on anyone that Frazier is calling Ali "Clay" in this interview from 1967, 3 years before their first fight, when he was assuredly aware that name got under Ali's skin?
I respect Frazier but its absurd to make him out as some kind of babe in the woods who treated Ali well and then was stabbed in the back by Ali's insults.
RonnieLeeDuck 2 years ago 2
@RonnieLeeDuck GOD BLESS U BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!
fuckin a right u r about frazier calling him clay.This is y ali had beef wit him also cos frazier refused a rematch from 71
prinsovdahkniss 2 years ago
@RonnieLeeDuck the interviewer did say "cassius" first, not saying you are wrong about frazier, i just was wondering if you had noticed that
RapedByRepublicans 1 year ago
Actually I didn't know that. But my point still stands. Ali characterized Frazier as "ignorant" and one who blindly followed the crowd. Its not like his rhetoric on Frazier was coming out of left field.
RonnieLeeDuck 1 year ago
@RonnieLeeDuck Well,It was rhetoric and Ali followed a different crowd (A crowd nonetheless)that probably would have killed him if he's tried to break away. He wasn't real tolerant with Blacks who didn't agree with his point of view Nobody who truly knew Joe Frazier ever referred to him as an Uncle Tom,Except Ali. And believe me,Nobody had to say a word to sell tickets to the first fight,: It was the fight just about everyone wanted to see.
Nickcat5 1 year ago
@Nickcat5 The NOI wouldn't have killed him if he tried to break away. Ali was very tolerant and got along quite well with many blacks who didn't agree with his POV. "Uncle Tom" is a highly subjective term. You can make a good case Ali shouldn't have said it. But like it or not Frazier did meet some of the elements of what the definition of an Uncle Tom is. Ali wasn't just using that term out of left field.
RonnieLeeDuck 1 year ago
@RonnieLeeDuck Looks like we're going top have to agree to disagree,Ronnie. Ali was hard on Bundini about his Faith(Jewish) Later on he did become more tolrerant,But he thru that UT tag at Frazier in a relatively successful attempt at alienating Blacks aginst Joe. I've met several people who knew Joe and nobody but nobody ever suggested that he was in a role of subserviant black. Met him myself once,His aura is incredible.
Nickcat5 1 year ago
@Nickcat5 Not sure where you get your info from. Ali had a problem with Bundini's drinking and pursuit of white women. He also proselytized like any religion does. That's not being hard on his religion. In re: to Uncle Tom. As an average citizen Joe may have not been a subservient. But he rose to be a heavy weight champion. Its in that capacity that Ali had a problem. Frazier growing up and staying in black communities in and of itself doesn't make him free of the charge.
RonnieLeeDuck 1 year ago
@RonnieLeeDuck I ask you the same question,Where do you get your Info? Bundini's pursuit of WW should have been none of Ali's business,If he were as tolerant as suggested, Now,What do you base your opinion of Frazier on? What did he do to warrant that 'title'? As I said before,No one who knew him ever said that,and for what it's worth,Ali in his own book(THe Greatest) said he(Frazier) wouldn't qualify as an UT. Keep in ming that the avg peson has opinions also
Nickcat5 1 year ago
@Nickcat5 I get my info from Ali's bio. As one of Ali's very close personal friends it actually was Ali's business to criticize it. What I said wasn't my opinion. My opinion on this is that Ali wasn' t just throwing out words w/o substance behind them. As a white man I never would have called Frazier an Uncle Tom. But unlike Ali Frazier the fighter was owned and managed by whites, he passively supported the war, and called Ali "Clay".
RonnieLeeDuck 1 year ago
@RonnieLeeDuck I get mine from his also,several of them & I've followed his & Joe's since the '60's. Ali had Faversham & Co as his original backers(Upon expiration,the NOI) What group of Black Businessmen tried to back Frazier? NONE! Alot of people WEREN'T against the was,Does that make them sell-outs. Ali's spiritual leader was against all wars the U.S was involved in,Wanted the U.S to lose WW2. If I went around telling my friends what color of women they should date,what would I be called.
Nickcat5 1 year ago
@Nickcat5 The only real problem I have with your posts is that you making stuff up to make Ali look bad. NOI didn't want the US "to lose WW2". They didn't want to fight the war. Two totally different things. I have no idea what you would be called by your friends if you did that. The plain fact is that Ali remained steadfast friends with Bundini and got along quite well with countless people of the Jewish and Christian faith.
RonnieLeeDuck 1 year ago
@RonnieLeeDuck Making up stuff? Do you really think I originated some of this! It was reported that Elijah Muhammed was heard to say that he hoped the Japenese would win over the U.S .Make Ali look bad? How much power do you think I have? You criticize someone and I't s O.K? What would I be called If I questioned another man(or woman) choices? A Racist I know they stayed friends,that doesn't change facts(They did part company for a bit in the mid sixties) This had gotten way out of hand.
Nickcat5 1 year ago
@Nickcat5 "It was reported that EM was heard to say...?" That is what you base it on? All that is really known is that EM evaded the draft in WW2. What Ali critics fail to grasp is how much Ali was hated and punished by the establishment for simply exercising his right of religious freedom and very reasonably saying he wasn't going to fight Vietnamese on the other side of the world when white Americans are suppressing the rights of blacks in his own country.
RonnieLeeDuck 1 year ago
@RonnieLeeDuck How about this. The Duke himself, John Wayne, great American icon, great western actor, great war movie actor, was a fucking draft dodger. Ali did what he did for a reason and he didn't hide behind anything to do it. He stood up and faced the government and paid a price for his beliefs. John Wayne had his movie producers take care of the politicians and get him out of service. He then spent his whole career fooloing people that he was some sort of hero because of the guilt he felt
bandit7498 1 year ago
@bandit7498 John Wayne had a medical condition that was why he wasn't drafted. Ali didn't believe in the war, The people over there didn't do anything to him, etc, didn't see the sense in risking his life for a small sum etc.
hydrolito 1 year ago
@hydrolito No John Wayne didn't. His movie career was taking off and he didn't want to put it at risk. He had his movie producers petition film after film for deferments so he would not have to go. After the Hollywood big wigs were done he went from 1-A to 2-A, which he remained the duration of the war. He didn't illegally dodge the draft, but he made no effort to do his part either. Even his wife stated that he felt guilty the rest of his life for it. Ali had a real reason for what he did.
bandit7498 1 year ago
@Nickcat5 It was only on the luck of a legal snafu that Ali didn't go to prison. He lost millions not able to fight. He clearly stood up for what millions of blacks in the 60s were afraid to say and sacrificed a helluva lot for it. Given from where Ali was coming from, calling another black man an "Uncle Tom" for reasons I stated may have not been right but it was extremely understandable and tame on Ali's part.
RonnieLeeDuck 1 year ago
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capablemachine 1 year ago
@capablemachine The fact is Frazier helped himself to try to get a fight with Ali. In the end Frazier didn't do anything that helped Ali get back in the ring.
RonnieLeeDuck 1 year ago
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capablemachine 1 year ago
@capablemachine Thats right. And Nixon didn't help. What of it?
RonnieLeeDuck 1 year ago
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capablemachine 1 year ago
@capablemachine Wrong. Ali fought in Georgia against Quarry because there was no state athletic commission and some key local politicians were given money from the gate for letting it happen. He then fought in NY because the NAACP successfully filed suit in federal court that it was discrimination. NY it turned out had been licensing murderers and felons for years. Nixon had nothing to do with it. Take your false information elsewhere. Or get rid of it.
RonnieLeeDuck 1 year ago
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capablemachine 1 year ago
@capablemachine ---u r right---it wasnt tame by any means. But Frazier attempting to help Ali ger his license back was as much for his own interests---they were clearly the best 2 fighters, both undefeated, both former gold medalists, each with a valid claim to the title
loyaldude10 1 year ago
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capablemachine 1 year ago
@Nickcat5 --I heard that also about Elijah Muhammad. Can u imagine---wanting US to lose war to Nazi Germany!
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@Nickcat5 ---back in those days, a lot of Black Power radicals dominated the scene and were grabbing the headlines. They thought King was too moderate and referred to him as a Tom. Ali was promoting himself and building up press for the fight. He had a derogatory for nearly all of his opponents. Frazier ws insulted worse because of the magnitude of their fight
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@loyaldude10 Believe me,Those two didn't have to say a word to each other & that that fight would've sold out. Ali would say vicious things about people then weasel out of it later by minimizing it as hype. By the time Ali / Frazier 1 had taken plcae,MLK.Jr was dead almost 4 yrs.
Nickcat5 1 year ago
@RonnieLeeDuck It shouldn't be lost on anyone that Ali called everybody anything but their names,Then was upset when he wasn't shown the respect he wanted. Ali himself was full of psych-out tactics,so if he could dish it out,he should be able to take it.. Everytime Ali was called on his behavior,He would play semantics games,I.E 'I wasn't hitting Ernie Terrell I was hitting hs white backers' (or something to that effect) Pure Crap!!
Nickcat5 1 year ago
@Nickcat5 Maybe. But you don't dispute my point. And Ali was able to take other people dishing it out. Even Frazier credits him with that. Plus Ali mainly kept his talk to an act. Calling Liston "the Bear" and "Ugly" was largely in response to Liston cultivating an image of a terrifying figure. Liston's cold stare was his own act. It was public images that were fair game. He largely stayed away from the private persona.
RonnieLeeDuck 1 year ago
@RonnieLeeDuck Well to put it simply,If you can't call me by my name,I'm not likely to call you by years,no matter what the reason. Sometimes it was personal, a la Patterson -Rabbit,Terrell & Frazier- UncleTom. ,calling Cooper a Bum & a Cripple,etc etc. As I mentioned before,Ali was prone to semantics.
Nickcat5 1 year ago
@RonnieLeeDuck I feel ya man, Ali my fav of all time was wrong for what he did, but here Frazier is talking all that trash about whipping Clay....
lwj24 1 year ago
@RonnieLeeDuck
At that point most of the world, save Howard Cosell, called Ali "Clay." The public didn't widely accept his new name until after his 3-1/2 year exile.
swami1 1 year ago
@RonnieLeeDuck Great
bossanac81 1 year ago
@RonnieLeeDuck He continued doing it well into the 70s as well. Even emphasizing it! So I don't feel bad for him at all. The insults made him more money if anything. Had Ali not been Ali but Patterson, he woulda made maybe 10% of what he made with "Clay".
ph1484 1 year ago
@RonnieLeeDuck he was aware of the name change but its difficult to not say clay when you have known him as clay for ever,especially when general public still called him clay,ali insulted fraziers family and frazier himself all the time by calling him a slave a gorilla and was even racist toward him and they are the same color,ali is the slave he is a slave to elijah muhammad and the islam nation.all these famous quotes were fed to him by the islam nation,he did what he was told when he was told
KIWIAZALWAYS 1 year ago
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Nickcat5 1 year ago
@KIWIAZALWAYS Something I was to realize about Ali later on. He was not his own man as much as he wanted to believe himself. It was actually one of the reasons his first wife,Sonja,was so resistant to him after a while. All in all,He (Ali) was a Great Fighter,(Maybe the 'Greatest',as he would say) Who without a doubt did much for Boxing,Especially the Hvwt Division.
Nickcat5 1 year ago
@RonnieLeeDuck a lot of people still called Ali Clay back then
loyaldude10 1 year ago
frazier the best
elferocenouchma 2 years ago 2
Jerry Quary was a really nice guy.
lemigod 2 years ago
yea quarry a hell of a fighter too.while he was great fighter he did no measure up to ali or frazier.quarry knocked out shavers in 1 round.only two guys who wre not champions ever beat him.chuvalo[a true bad ass,and eddie machen,a real journey man].9 pot of 10 pros wouldnt even think of beating quarry,but he was no ali.
dempsey981 1 year ago
Gotta say the nature of these guys was extremely professional in this clip- good to watch. Lighthearted and treating the event as it is......a sport.
TheXenomorph1980 2 years ago
This is some really great footage.
capablemachine 2 years ago
ali was the best ever he told it like it is joe was good to and jerry but ali was number 1 in his prime..by the time he fight joe it was relly like over what if it was 67 when he fight joe he would of crush him
bigcaddydevill96 2 years ago
Young Joe Louis! That's awesome. He was an engaging sportsman indeed.
soulinthewall77 2 years ago
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Someone called 911 from the home and when police arrived, a woman who opened the door had injuries to her lip and face and alleged that Frazier struck her
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Someone called 911 from the home and when police arrived, a woman who opened the door had injuries to her lip and face and alleged that Frazier struck her
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MrPalspal 2 years ago
@MrPalspal Above you say 'recently' arrested. While I won't defend such behavior,Yours isn't a lot better. Get your facts straight,and do not forget he wasn't convicted of anything.
Nickcat5 1 year ago
Great footage.......The Golden age of heavyweights
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ricflarefucknsucks 2 years ago
Awesome upload.
Thankyou.
newsense87 2 years ago
Omg i got teary eyes after the finishing blow of Frazier at the end of the video T_T. Frazier = Legend
ScorchBoy 2 years ago 2
Ali is such a racist
HICKMYSTER10123 2 years ago
Frazier petitioned to the president to get Ali's boxing license reinstated, so that he could fight him some day. Now that's what you call a great sportsman. Ali alledgedly never thanked him for it.
Fripitto 2 years ago
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sucker... says he wants to whupp ALI .... just when the ignorant reporter calls ali cassius and says he cant fight no more
a real uncle tom
brandonmessage 2 years ago
Uncle Tom? Let's see, what does that mean? Hmmm...I know: A black man that doesn't blame white people for his problems, one who loves this country, does what he is supposed to do, and doesn't feel he is owed anything by society. Yep, Frazier sure was an Uncle Tom!
drexelur1 2 years ago 3
shut up slut
beaupeep1 2 years ago
uncle tom will always posses a negative connotation, even if you are being sarcastic i think it should be pointed out.
NINJUGGALOTUS 2 years ago
Joe Frazier. A real sportsman. Gentleman. No loud mouth noise and a man who had respect. It will be Joe remembered in 200 years time, in both history and character.
divorcecake 2 years ago 12
amen
etacovda 2 years ago
@divorcecake
TheFrogger15 1 year ago
Yancy Durham was pure gold. So was Smokin' Joe, Floyd Patterson, and Jerry Quarry. Someone like Yank Durham was not one to throw compliments to fighters for no legitimate reason. Yank respected Jerry Quarry genuinely. And for the trainer and manager of one of boxing's truly immortal figures like Joe Frazier, that's a laudable honor. These guys had class, guts, and knew how to fight. Golden Era of the heavyweights? Goddamn right!
munchkiecocoa 2 years ago 2
youre goddamned right mr munch~! great times back in the day, nowadays we get crappy fights from some guy named fast eddie!
flyinghotwing 2 years ago
good insight, and yes we miss the good old days when heavyweight action was for REAL....not like boring dr. hammer and his jabs and plodding.........
flyinghotwing 2 years ago
Very well stated. And I do think Quarry would have been quite comfortable in there against Marciano. Rocky was an underrated boxer but Jerry was a more accomplished stylist, no question. Power belongs to Marciano for sure but Jerry had an iron chin. I think Quarry wins by unanimous decision in a tough, tough fight.
Kedbuka 2 years ago
@Kedbuka ---no---Rocky would beat Jerry. Might get hurt a little but he just had too much power. jerry prob wouldnt have backed up one inch though
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@loyaldude10 Actually, Jerry would have backed up a lot, gone to his right all night long and slugged inside whenever it suited him. And anything Marciano threw Jerry could take and given it right back to him in spades. Jerry by UD in a rugged affair. And he'd repeat that win again & again. Marciano didn't beat one outstanding fighter in their prime. He barely beat contender Roland LaStarza in a disputed decision before he won the title. Everyone else was well past it.
Kedbuka 1 year ago
@Kedbuka ---he beat Walcott twice---Walcott was an unusual fighter who acctually peaked in his mid-late 30s. Louis was obviously way past his prime, and Charles may have been also. You could make exact same argument re Ali----Liston was aging, and may have been older than listed (supposedly born in 1932, but some say earlier)--so at least 32 in 1st Ali fight. Cleveland Wms, Z Folley, Archie Moore (older than when Rocky fought him) all way past prime. Even Frazier in 2d fight was not the same.
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@loyaldude10 So you're saying Ali never beat any fighter who was in his prime? That's what you meant, right? That's gotta' be one of the silliest remarks I've ever read on YouTube--and that's really saying something because there's a shitload of dumb comments here. Liston was 34 and fully in his prime when Ali, a 7-to-1 underdog, beat him. And what of Foreman? Quarry? Frazier? Terrell? Ellis? Norton? Lyle? Shavers? Folley? Chuvalo? Shavers? Dude, get real...or wake up. Geez...
Kedbuka 1 year ago
@Kedbuka --I didnt say he never beat anyone in his prime--I said same argument could be made, meaning a lot of ali's opponenets were not in prime. Ali beat Liston soundly, but sonny was pretty much inactive for prior yr or so,and was aging. Frazier was on his way down by 2d fight., Quarry was in his prime, but Ellis past his. Lyle was in prime, as was Norton (but look at how Ali eeked by Norton, and really lost twice, if not 3X). Shavers was in his prime, as was Chuvalo, but Folley way past his
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@loyaldude10 So a lot of Ali's opponents weren't in their prime. What I said, however, was that Marciano "DIDN'T BEAT ONE OUTSTANDING FIGHTER IN THEIR PRIME." I stand by that statement. And you didn't rebut it. And I still think Quarry would have handled Rock in a tough fight, which was the original point of our exchange.
Kedbuka 1 year ago
@Kedbuka --look at the other comment I made---Jersey Joe Walcott was in his prime when Marciano KO'd him. Walcott was slick ---could punch and had great footwork. He knocked Joe Louis down twice and was somehow robbed of the decision. Ezzard Charles may have been a little past his prime when he fought Rocky, but not by much---was only 2 yrs older than Rocky. But both Charles and Walcott were way better than the Ali opponents you mentioned, except Frazier and Foreman. Both were very underrated
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@loyaldude10 Walcott was hardly in his prime when KO'd by Marciano. He was 38 years old and had won the title on his FIFTH attempt. His prime years were about five to seven years earlier. Furthermore, in his rematch against Marciano, Walcott went out in the first round so he got old real fast. Ezzard Charles was a blown up light-heavyweight, and a very good one at that. But neither was "way better" than Ellis, Norton, Lyle, Shavers, Quarry, et al. They were all top class in their prime years.
Kedbuka 1 year ago
@Kedbuka -Walcott was in his prime. Had finally beaten Charles (2X) after losing 2X to him. He peaked late in career. What difference is it if Charles was a lt heavywt first? Look what he did to marciano's nose in first fight. Rumor is that Charles didnt use all his punching power, since an early opponent died after a fight. Both of these guys were far superior to these other guys and underrated. Ellis should never have been WBA champ--was given a gift decision over Patterson in tournament.
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@loyaldude10 Ellis won the title by majority decision over Quarry. He defended it one time against Patterson in Sweden and the fans thought Floyd won but the NY Times scored it for Ellis. JE was trained & managed by Angelo Dundee, who said Ellis was one of the most talented fighters he's ever had. As for Charles, he knocked out Sam Baroudi, who later died from his injuries. Charles was severely traumatized by but came back to knock out his next two opponents. Do some research, bro'...
Kedbuka 1 year ago
@Kedbuka ---so 1 judge thought Quarry beat Ellis--and Jerry had a bad night, I recall. Patterson was robbed (at 33 yrs old)---no way Ellis deserved the decision. Dundee can call him talented; he was not very good compared to other champions.Look what Frazier did to him! And u missed my point re Charles---I didnt say he never ko'd anyone else, I said he may have held back a little after Baroudi death. Read what I wrote and interpret it correctly, will ya?
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@loyaldude10 I have to "interpret" what you wrote? If you can't write it clearly enough, forget it.
Later, dude.
Kedbuka 1 year ago
@loyaldude10 everything you just typed is bullshit.
MrCandlewax 1 year ago
@loyaldude10 i agree with u that norton beat ali in their second fight: heres the evidence: norton face was all puffy at the end of the fight, norton was frustrated all night because ali wouldn't let him hit him while on the ropes, although norton did get two free shots in while ali was on the ropes. also when the judges and 95% of the people say ali won 11 of 12 rounds... well... that means like u say norton won the fight.
jeryd2003 9 months ago
@jeryd2003
Ali won the second fight but Norton won the First and the Third.The Third fight was reasonably even until the last seconds when Norton landed a barrage of punches.
Norton was robbed in their Third Fight.
But even then, Norton loves Ali and is honoured, because without Ali he wouldn't be remembered at all. Ali put Norton in the spotlight and made him money and made him recognised by the world when Norton beat him in March 1973. Before that Norton had a hard time earning a living.
truebeliever786 8 months ago
jerry may have been a good heavyweight but one of the betterheavyies of al time? explosive thin man>? are you serious? he was fun to watch and could beat the tuf fighters but you have to beat the best to be in the all time greatness category
flyinghotwing 2 years ago
Jerry Quarry beat men who gave Ali, Frazier, Foreman, and Norton either fits or trips to hell. And Quarry handled those same guys like they were babies. The only two fighters in Jerry's prime that could genuinely be called better were Ali and Frazier. Foreman avoided him, and Norton waited until Jerry was this side of a nursing home to fight him, and even then Jerry was in the fight until he was cut.
munchkiecocoa 2 years ago 2
jerry could probably beat dr Klit(or perhaps not since he was barely 6ft) or some of the other lousy heavies of today, meaning he was 1 tough irish sonofabitch/i liked him, but to say he was one of the greatest, when he wasn't even that in his own era? he lost to ellis, machen, chuvalo, frazier twice, ali twice and pretty easily, perhaps norton got him old, but im sorry he was a perfect style for foreman to put a beating on, see what happened to the tougher smoking joe! jerry was a decent man!
flyinghotwing 2 years ago
Quarry went into the Ellis fight with a broken back. And in the Chuvalo fight, he misread the referee's count, just trying to take full advantage of the count when he was handily winning the fight. He did VERY well against Frazier and Ali (two of the top five all-time greats in my view) before being cut. Jerry would have tackled Marciano and other champs like it was nothing. Many champs had titles won against dead men and chumps. He didn't. That's the only difference.
munchkiecocoa 2 years ago
jerry was good, he beat Lyle and Shavers, true had a controversial ending against Chuvalo. But to say that he would have beaten Marciano? Most experts would disagree...but yes jerry was an exciting fighter, he just could not quite rise to the top against the Fraziers/Alis, and heaven help him -he didnt face Foreman....he did have a good career with alot of heart and emotion in his rugged fights/but to make excuses for all his losses sounds like JCChavez at the end of his career, crying foul!
flyinghotwing 2 years ago
Intelligently stated, my friend. Thank you. We will agree to disagree on this one.
munchkiecocoa 2 years ago
@munchkiecocoa --Jerry definitely should have won Chuvalo fight. Didnt see Ellis fight---heard it was dull, and seeign how bad Ellis looked against patterson (ridiculous that he was awarded decision) surprising that jerry lost. Didnt know he was injured, but that would explain it
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@munchkiecocoa --Foreman did not want to fight him. But he knew he would get title shot anyway, if he kept winning. Norton didnt become prominent until he beat Ali in 73. He then fought rematch w/ Ali and got the title shot against Foreman following yr. He really didnt have to fight Jerry, whose skills may have been declining by then. It was self-interests more so than being afraid of losing to someone.
loyaldude10 1 year ago
why wasn't joe frazier drafted? it would have been for only 3 and 1 half years. same question for jerry quary.
jeryd2003 2 years ago
I think it was because he had a couple of kids already, when he would have been at the age to be eligible to be drafted.
FujiVyce 2 years ago
Smokin' Joe Frazier--a great fighter and a class act. As simple as that.
axelandstuefreed 2 years ago 2
The very end of the clip Joe throws a finishing left hook into the heavy bag; it's short, fast, powerful...perfect.
Durham's comments about Quarry, though muted, are pure class. As the other posters have noted, Yank and Joe had lots of respect for Quarry, who was a skilled warrior. Poor timing, that's all.
Kedbuka 2 years ago 3
Wow, thanks so much for uploading this clip. Too see Joe so young, to hear Yank Durham during that interview...what a treat! Anybody guess Yank's nickname for Joe? Yep, that's right: "cocksucker."
Quarry looks like a kid at the weigh-in. That's Jimmy Lennon there announding the fighters' weights. He was the real deal. Great voice and spoke fluent Spanish, which meant a lot to all those Mexicans filling up the Olympic Auditorium. Thanks again for the clip!
Kedbuka 2 years ago
i don't remember Joe being called cocksucker by Yank according to Frazier's autobiography. i believe he reserved that term for Joe's opponents.
NINJUGGALOTUS 2 years ago
If I remember it right, Joe said that Yank had a way of using swear words quite a bit that really cracked him up (his words). He said that when he won the title--I think it was against Jimmy Ellis--Yank climbed through the ropes and said, "Cocksuker, we done it!"
Kedbuka 2 years ago
joe was the best
irishbuy 2 years ago 2
Fantastic footage. Jerry had yet to go through the wars with Frazier, Ali, Norton, etc. and his appearance showed it.
uncjim 3 years ago
I loved this!! Never saw this pictures before. Thanx!
Aristotelezz 3 years ago
Thanks for this.
Quarry was always fun to watch. Some good wins,
and some great losses.
ringworks 3 years ago
There was a reason why all the major black fighters, and fighters and managers in general, respected Jerry Quarry. He was damn good. One of the best. Yancy Durham had a hell of a lot more respect for Quarry than he did Jimmy Ellis. So did Frazier and George Foreman. It is sad that mainstream sports fans only remember him for his high profile losses. They forget ], though, that he gave Frazier hell in their first fight, and was coming on in the first Ali fight before the cut.
munchkiecocoa 3 years ago
Yes. Jerry was the real deal. He beat Shavers, Lyle, Mac Foster, and Floyd. One of the better heavyweights of alltime. If he didnt have the cut problem he wouldve been even tougher.
ExplosiveThinMan 3 years ago
jerry may have been a good heavyweight but one of the betterheavyies of al time? explosive thin man>? are you serious? he was fun to watch and could beat the tuf fighters but you have to beat the best to be in the all time greatness category
flyinghotwing 2 years ago
he cut easy and fought in a era when there was many talented heavyweights...and he held up very well
BloodBoxing 2 years ago