I watched Connie Kalitta win Top Fuel at the 1967 Winternationals with his 427 SOHC "cammer" Ford. Other guys running the Ford hemi, at that time, included Tom Hoover, Bob Tasca, Don Nicholson and Pete Robinson. Though I have always been a Chevy guy this is easily my all-time favorite motor. The biggest issue they had in fuel racing was with the timing chain. Robinson even designed a gear system for his "cammer" that, when opened up, looked like the insides of a pocket watch.
I'm a Mopar guy but truth be known I'm pretty much a Mopar guy that really likes Fords. I always though the sound of a nice 426 Hemi was nice but this cammer, wow. Man, does this puppy sound sweet.
@kirkconway Ford Racings supercharger upgrade for the 2011 GT500, the TVS, bolts on in 3 hrs and produces up to 850 hp.
watch?v=L-uoGCLzHVs
The 2013 GT500 gets bored out to 5.8Ls and will be topped with the TVS, and it will produce around 620 hp on pump gas, do 60 in 3.7s, and will pass emissions tests.
my 429 has a comp cam hooker headers and to 12in glasspacks and sounds just as good as that does stock i want two one for my fairlane and the other for my corvette to piss off chevy guys
It's almost mandatory when someone puts an engine video up, people are going to argue over who did what when and how, etc etc. Just enjoy the sight and sounds of it, and in this case a big High 5 to the person who built it and is lucky enough to own such a beast. Ever notice that any video of a Cammer running usually blows the mic to hell too?
Arguing this motor over the Chrysler hemi is like arguing whether Natalie Portman is hotter than Anne Hathaway. All four of them Cammer, Hemi, Natalie and Anne, will turn your head, empty your wallet, break your heart, and leave you wanting more.
they new it would eat the 426 for lunch!.....so Chrysler said they would pull out of NASCAR if the SOHC motor was allowed!.....so they banned it......
@jeepers2655 Both engines were banned at the same time.....Chrysler withdrew its factory teams AFTER the ban,get your facts straight mate.....Ford should have made a street version,like Chrysler did....As for eating the 426 for lunch,we,ll never know
I read somewhere that the Cammer was made as an answer to the Chrysler 426 Hemi,which didn,t debut until the 64 Daytona 500....and was for Nascar only,but Nascar banned both the Cammer and the Hemi,so the Cammer was used for drag racing only.....Is that true?
The engine Dodge was designing, until the SOHC was banned, was a DOHC beast that would have trounced everything. It never made it past the planning stages.
Dodge had the Hemi on the track before Ford made the Cammer. The rules were changed to ban Ford's beast. The rule change made it to so you had to make so many cars with the engine from the factory. The 427 SOHC cost more than most cars by itself back then. Later they made a semi-hemi with the Boss 429.
Hate to see anyone modify these rare engines for more HP..... I think they were 616HP@6500 rpm? This engine came out in/around 1963? And we are now 47 years later in 2010....I wonder what this engine could do given 47 more years of engineering expertise, improved materials, etc, etc?
@MrCyclone21 Shelby is making complete engines with all of the new 2010 engineering mods you can get. They aren't rare any more... If you have the bucks.
@MrCyclone21 they were anywhere from 390hp up to 657hp. 390hp being the "W" code 1968 4v model, and 657hp coming from the "D" code 8v model. that 616hp model is the "L" code engine (4v), and it makes it at 7000rpm. And yes, it came out in February 1963 in Ford Galaxies and some Mercurys. The 2 highest horsepower "L" and "D" 427's were only available in 64 Galaxie 500s. These engines were all options and most of the time were dealer installed.
"Ford introduced the 427 as a production/race engine in 1963, declared the year of "Total Performance" by Henry Ford II. Ford, tired of losing to the Chrysler 426 "Hemi" at the drag strip and on circle tracks, developed the 427 to compete."..... It was first made in 1963 (not 64), thats how it was available in a 1963 car.
@Firecat400EX The 427 engine you refer to is the "Top oiler"NOT the Cammer....The Cammer was introduced in 1964,and never came out in a production car....You really should check you facts mate
@1250am If you google Ford 427 motors you,ll find Ford made 3 different 427Cubic inch motors.....The top oiler,made in 1963,which a race only engine....the Cammer,(dragrace only)which was made in 1964...and the side oiler in 1965,this was the only engine that came out in production cars(1966 AC427 Cobra)
@68bobba been playin with fords for a good number of years and have never heard of the top oiler before. buddy even has a 63 1/2 r code galaxie too. never heard of it before. guess ya learn something new every day.thanks for the heads up.
damn I wish ford racing would make this monster again! this time they could make the timing chain shorter. I love the fact that a motor this big from 40 years ago wants to rap up to 7000 rpms like its nothing, I hope ford can hear me!! we want some cubic inches!! give us some pistons the size of large coffee cans again! can you just see this thing in a new mustang cobra, with coils on the plugs, and fuel infection?
I get so see one of these bad boys every weekend. Hubby has one in a 1965 Comet. Alcohol...what a ride. Just one NMCA Nostolgia Super Stock this last weekend. Runs a 9.50 index, but goes much faster than that.
I had the pleasure of seeing one of these back in the late 80's in the San Fernando Valley at one of the gathering spots for classic cars (they might not have even been classics yet, LOL) There was an older man with a '69 Mustang, nicknamed "Pop's Toy" (I think he might have had 2 Mustangs which he transplanted these engines into). Anyway, I read in Hot Rod that the car was stolen a few years after I got to see it. Being so rare, I couldn't imagine where one could hide an engine like this!
best idea would be to limit the count of valves to 16 and the count of camshafts to two, so 427 sohc would have a valid cylinder head configuration. are the nascars using 5800cc/351cid blocks by the way?
Definitely the most evil Ford engine ever. Even as a die hard Mopar guy, I still love this engine. For those who want one, they are being reproduced, and you can build a brand new one, but it certainly won't come cheap.
my dad gave me his 427 SOHC engine he said he got it from one of his race buddies but it's in storage now i plan to put it in a mustang some day it needs work
Hello, this is Wayne, the person who built and is running the SOHC in the video. My girlfriends' daughter posted it for me because I am computer challenged. This is what happened to the engine: which had a welded stroker crank about 496", after 10 passes shifting at 7500 to 8000. I pulled the motor down to a cracked crank. I have the parts to rebuild it (complete new short block) but never did it.
Oh forgot to mention, your profile says you are 54, which is almost 10 years younger than me, and also means that in the supercar days you were all of 12-15 YEARS OLD, so please quit talking out your ass and be silent. You even claimed "as for when I was involved in drag racing was before the 70's" You were not even LEGALLY ALLOWED TO DRIVE BEFORE 1970 so quit lying out your ass you idiot. You continue to embarrass yourself!
ah!!! victimofcheese .. glad you used your spell check .. as for when I owned the cyclone .. don't care if you know .. as for involvement in drag racing .. license not required .. as for being around Hi Po cars .. license not required not to ride in them .. as for where I live .. you know shit .. as for do I care .. nope.. don't think so .. so off too the beach with you to do you're favorite pastime infatuation .. pounding sand up you 're asshole .. now out of quarters ..
@avroarrow2009 Oh so you were drag racing "in the early 60's" when you were 6 years old. Yeah, riiiight. OOPS someone got caught slinging bullshit!! A spellchecker isn't the problem, trying to make a coherent sentence that doesn't look like a retard pounding on a keyboard is your problem. Your latest post, as usual, does not contain ONE SINGLE SENTENCE, nor one single coherent thought. You claim not be drunk, are you sniffing glue? On meth? What is it?
you amuse me .. involved and drag racing tow different words ..as for bullshit ..you have the corner on that one .. you simply know nothing about me or my history .. but I forgot you're the expert on here .. I don't buy you're 10 yrs older than me .. and seem to be transfixed on my grammatical skills .. well enjoy this on too .. :)))
And lastly you resort to insulting my youtube account name, which is laughably stupid even by your hilariously brain dead standards. But, since we're talking about account names, is even more hilarious considering you named your account after the "Avro arrow", which, much like your posting, was a big pile of shit with no use whatsoever. Of course the irony of that would be lost on someone of your mental "abilities".
Let's give the trailer trash a quick primer in writing English! 1. Sentences begin with a capital letter! 2. Sentences end with a period! Not three in a row, just one! 3. Look up "preposition" in a grammar guide! 4. Random brain malfunction thoughts like "I was involved in drag racing was before the 70's" "leave my parents out of it you on brained" and "perhaps read watch some history" don't make any sense in English, sorry! 5. Look up the words "your" and "you're" and how we use them!
Oh forgot to mention: the 390 was a dog of a motor, a boat anchor even worse than the chev 396. It was a step down from the 428 and even a step down from the 351c with NO redeeming feature and a ton of weight to go with it. Cyclones were nice looking cars back then, shame about the 14second quarters.
this is not about the car this is about me asshole .. you first off don't know me .. and you are basing you 're assumption on you're experience .. now I don't know how old you are .. but I certainly can say Iived and breathed during the muscle car hay day and no .. sorry 396 and 351 c did not dominate .. perhaps in you're world .. 66 malibu ss or cornet rt .. charger .. ect weighed any less .. you ever hear of the tunnel port 390 .. highriser or medium riser so with that I say good night ass
@avroarrow2009 "sorry 396 and 351 c did not dominate" Where did I ever mention the 396? I called it a BOAT ANCHOR along with the 390, which everyone at the time already knew dumbass. As for the 351c it was hugely popular in the 70's and did plenty of serious work in drag racing. You were probably too busy reading comic books back then to have been out racing and watching races though, so your flat ignorance is no surprise.
you're about as sharp as a bag of blunt nails .. as for when I was involved in drag racing was before the 70's.. perhaps read watch some history and perhaps you would actually know what the hell you speak of .. you're dumb as shit .. and leave my parents out of it you on brained paramecium ... once again you're name says it all .. you abhorring curmudgeon troglodyte...
@avroarrow2009 hahahah you really ARE retarded, aren't you? Can you even form a SINGLE complete sentence in English? Even once? Come on now Timmy, try your hardest!
pehaps they did run on Factory F 60 series bias plied tires from the factory .. not too bad .. but there was quicker .. they also came with 427 fe engines .. by the way ... and 289's
427 sohc 4 valves per cylinder .. came in steel .. cast iron... aluminium block Holloman Moody .. never raced at Nascar due to testing .. Mopar and Gm threatened to boycott if Nascar allowed it too run ... 427 was no slouch .. powered the gt40 to win Lemans and humiliate Ferrari .. and was no slouch on the strip either .. no hemi is going to run away from it .. there are history books avail .. good idea to read .. mopar did not dominate ... but in some peoples minds they did ..
A Hemi combustion chamber is as good as 2 valves-per-cylinder gets, & Mopar is not the only manufacturer that has made them. Ford's 427 SOHC is a hemi & so is their Boss 429, but the Boss 429 uses quench areas in it's hemi chambers. & for that reason it's called a "crescent" hemi. The Mitsubishi 2.6 I4 & 3.0 V6 has "almost" crescent hemi chambers & is a SOHC.
When it comes to normal aspiration (non-supercharged), 3 valves & 4 valves per-cylinder are better. Somebody makes a 5 valve-per-cylinder
The hemispherical combustion chamber was not invented by MOPAR. Just about any innovation you can think of for internal combustion had been tried probably by 1940. EFI was invented in the US in the late 50's and then sold to VW later on. You name it, it was probably tried in GP racing or at Indy in the 1930s.
And also for Mopar in the same year? I know the Germans were using FI in most of their aircraft engines in WWII. I would think that VW could work it out themselves.
This is correct. The only thing Chrysler owns is the rights to the name "Hemi" & most people don't even know what that means. Virtually any OHC engine out there today uses the Hemisperical cumbustom chamber & valve layout. So really - its about as big of a deal anymore as saying "my car has fuel injection"
@vapornet12345 The SOHC is a true hemi. If you're going to try to make the argument that it's not then here is some food for thought. Go search for a picture of Chrysler's modern day "Hemi" which IMO is nothing remotely close to a true hemi and they are just using the trademark to try and make more sales.
dude the 427 sohc was in a totaly different catagory. the duel quad version from the factory was rated at 657 hp. it was an over the counter engine ment for drag racing since nascar rejected its use. and galaxies had the 427 side oiler block thats what the sohc block was based on. but after that simularity it was in a different galaxie all of its own.
Your right. Mopar whined about it the loudest, their argument was that speeds would get dangerously high. Ive always been into G.M. but you got to give Ford its due this was the baddest engine produced in the 60s. I want one.
Hell I want two! LOL! Had chance in the late '80s to buy one for $500 plus shipping across country. Couldn't close the deal and it still pisses me off.
"so yes only a highly modified 428 would own a 426 Hemi in racing. " Notice I said "stock" and you're replying with "highly modified" Stock, the 428 is a boat anchor. Period.
Also cyclones were big heavy unwieldy cars not remotely designed to drag race, so quit telling tales about some land yacht cyclone winning jack shit in a drag race unless it was a highly modified f/x full on drag car. The stock/production cyclones were mule wagons.
you seem to think you are an expert .. where you even breathing in the hay day of high performance .. you tell me what 390 series m y cyclone had in it since you are such and expert .. and what the Holly carb and size and the jetting was and the cubic inches .. do you know what type of push rods came with my 390 series .. and manifold .. and the compression ratio .. and the rearend gears .. from the factory .. and simple one .. was it auto or top loader ..
no but I think you have done some pretty good crack victimofcheese and probably wiped out on you're three wheeler once too many times and landed on you're brain cell
Again: you want me to identify what options your car came with? You're an inbred retard. You keep talking about some 390 you own when nobody gives a shit and it has nothing to do with this video or anything anyone has posted here. What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you drunk right now?
@avroarrow2009 Oh and please, have your parents proof-read your posts from now on, because your spelling, punctuation, sentence structure, and most importantly cohesiveness are frighteningly terrible. On par with someone who rode the short bus with the other window lickers. You make next to no sense. Again, are you posting drunk or on drugs? Try to form a clear thought before posting, then try to put it into word form like us normals do, ok?
Lots of hilarious comments here. Just saying this: the STOCK BUILD 426 hydraulic lifter hemi makes 500+ horsepower. Stock. I know, I have seen one on an engine dyno rebuilt to bone stock specs and run right the fuck in front of me. The SOHC Cammer was a beast, and put out gobs of horsepower, to the tune of 575+. But these OMG MY 428 WAS DOPEEEE tales are hilarious. The 428 even in SCJ form was a big heavy dog and couldn't even break its own displacement in horsepower stock. Quit dreamin
The 427 cammer actually had 616HP@7000 RPM'S with a 4 BBL and 657HP @7500 RPM'S with Dual 4 BBL'S as to what Paul Munro is saying because he build's exact replica 427 cammers but with more power and better designed with cooling and just everything overall. But they're a have nice price tag of $35,000 USD . And the bone stock 428SCJ had 405HP@5900 RPM'S and 447TQ@3900 RPM'S so yes only a highly modified 428 would own a 426 Hemi in racing.
I dont know if you consider a CJ modified or not but look it up and you'll find the 1969 mach1 428 CJ W/dragpack was the quickest out of the box that year.
No I don't consider that Modified, But I do know what will make a 428 preform better from what I have heard from a lot of other Ford guys is using 427 Ci Parts with it. Kinda like if I used a 289ci Block with 302 internals it will preform a lot better then just a 302 with 302 parts. My friends uncle did that with a 289Ci 66 Hi Po block and he did the same mods as he did with his 302Ci he had in the car before. And he said that 289 would walk all over the 302 with the same exact mods done to it.
Untoldguitarist; the 289 and 302 blocks are identical, you couldn't tell the difference between them, there is zero difference in performance. The first 1968 302 block was nothing more than a 289 block with a different casting ID plate on the side. As for the 428 FE, it was a street engine, and had no cross bolts to secure the mains, the way a 427 does, since the 427 is a race engine. Therefore, the 428 wouldn't survive the RPM that the 427 would.
I am just going by what my friend told me; He said that the Built 289 had more balls to it after he did the same mods as his 302 that he sold off to a friend. As for my self I actually have a 68' 302Ci Short Block bored .30 w/ TRW Flat Top Racing Pistons 12.0:1 Comp, Forged 4340 H beam Connecting Rods, Forged 4340 Eagle Crankshaft. And all I need is a set of heads, Solid Tappet Camshaft w/ Lifters , Intake, Carb. Once it is complete I plan on buying a 80's Ranger and stuffing that motor in their
Well it may be splitting hairs, but there actually is a difference between the two. In the 302 the cylinder walls are a tad deeper. This was to keep the piston stabe with the increased stroke.
No it would not the Dodge 426 Hemi had 480HP in the Nascar ones and the Ford 427SOHC had 616HP. I like Mopar too as well as Ford any Muscle Car for that matter but that Cammer Motor was just a lot better motor for performance and a lot rarer too. Also Banned from even being used in Nascar because it had way more power then the 426 Hemi.
It's not that it made too much power, it's that Ford never put it into production cars. The rule was that it had to make it into at leats 500 production cars per year, otherwise it's really not a "stock car" motor. In comes the BOSS 429.
Interesting hearing it run though. I think I'll have to go for a ride in my Dad's friends AC Cobra hehe...
I didn't know that but I did know that is had more power then the 426 Hemi that was used in Nascar. Because their is a performance shop in Australia owned by a guy named Paul Munro and he has a Original 427 SOHC and he said stock from the factory it had 616HP and even more power with (2)4BBL Carbs; But what is really cool he is making crate 427 SOHC Motors so the public can buy them again like in the 60's but they cost around $35,000 for a fully built one and around $6,000 just for the block.
it did go into production cars .. special order .. actually an 06 gt mustang had one put into it ..80,000 dollars .. and here in Winnipeg there is a 65 galaxie with it .. put in 65 .. original .. and a cobra .. original 67 ..
so true .. and it was a deadly monster on the strip .. it's horse power was under rated for insurance purposes .. because you can order it in a production car .. came in steel , cast , and aluminum block .. and you can order it from ford today .. there is a guy with a mustand who had it installed in an 06 gt mustang .. 80 ,000 dollar price tag ..on here on youtube .. you just have too look ..
Actually Dodge and Chrysler and Chevy in 60's threatened to boycott NASCAR after they saw it run a track test in the Fords .. so Ford ended up using the 427 and 390 series engine and later 428 and which was no slouch .. and then later the replacement to the SOHC 427 .. as reported on Diamond P Productions .. it made the chrysler Hemi look like a thing from the FLINSTONES era ...
if the Cammer was unreliable because of it's advance technology for its time, it's most likely that the 426 DOHC would be even more unreliable, even more risky to be destroyed at higher rpms e.t.c.
The cammer could rev past 8000rpm. In some of the drag cars of the day they could easaly hit 9000. The technoligy had been widely used in europ for decades,just not on an engine as big as the 427. Very reliable and comfortable at high rpm.
early model 300zx have a mini version of the 427sohc... the head design is identical... except its a v6.. if you really like cammer motors check it out
Bill coons is making the heads out of aluminum now. You can build an all aluminum cammer between his heads and a shelby block. You can even have the shelby blocks drilled for a cammer app.
Enlighten me on this DOHC Hemi? Also I was wondering If anyone makes these crate engines anymore...like the new Boss 302 do they make the 427 SOHC a crate engine you can buy today? Along with some of Ford's other engines like the 429 Hemi and others? I havn't really bothered looking for these crate engines but wanted to find out the easy way. I know people could probably custom build an exact replica but was wondering if you could just buy one from FRPP? Thanks for your answers.
Well, as i've heard, it was made as an respond to the Ford Cammer 427 SOHC V8, only made in about 2 examples, maybe a third one but that is not confirmed, with double overhead camshafts, but i don't think it would be better than the Cammer since overall, if using DOHC-design, it's neccecary to use more than two valves per cylinder to archive more power, and it simply wouldn't work, i think.
The Cammer instead, does work, althought it have 2 valves.
Yes the aftermarket is building parts and complete engines that will only set you back about 25.000$. or more. By aftermarket I mean private engine builders and parts makers,not summit or jegs. The engines and parts are not mass produced.
Its too bad Ford only made about a dozen of these engines, most of them were snatched up by drag racing. I know two of these engines were put in some special mustang, and then sent over seas for our troops to enjoy, and one mustang got smashed, and the other is owned by Goldberg.
Here in centrel oregon a guy had a Sanger borg warner Velvet drive in the 70's. it had the 427 side oiler engine. that thing was the fastest boat in oregon till the 90's.
Ive seen a guy about 7 years ago with a 19 foot Howard flat bottom cruisng thru the channel with a "Cammer" 427 SOHC. They made a few more than a dozen..
As stated below, the 427 SOHC was never a production engine. The engine and service parts could only be purchased over the counter. If you were around at that time, you would know this...
The heads on that engine are priceless. I wish i had them so i could make my original 428 Thunderbird into a phantom, a car built to factory specs but never really was.
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they had this engine in the cobra. there was a recall on it however. it seems that a lot of dumbasses didn't realize they had a nuke attached to their right foot while driving and ended up around a tree or whatever was there that the car wanted to hug. my question is why isn't this in a Probe or a Contour or another really tiny car?
limited numbers of them were made and almost all of them were wrecked inside a few months. the engines were later pulled from any production cars and used primarily for drag and race applications.
NO, they fucking didn't. Don't spread misinformation and bullshit. The 427 cammer was NEVER used in cobras, the engine was made for homologation purposes for nascar, and NEVER saw use in a cobra. Ever. Please don't spread lies and urban legends.
None made it into a production car ever. These two guys are just making stuff up. The cammer was banned by nascar before it could be homologated and it was only used in drag cars, where it could be ordered as a crate motor over the counter. NOT in any production car ever.
The cammer was NEVER put into a production car ever. NASCAR banned it before it could be homologated, and it only found use in drag racing, where it could be bought over the counter from Ford as a crate motor. Never used in a production car ever. Period.
His username says it all. The 427 SOHC never saw a production vehicle, it was made to counter the Chrysler 426 hemi for NASCAR. Sadly it was shot down by Bill France Sr. He knew it was too fast! It ended up it drag racing where it saw duty in Top Fuel an A/FX racing. From 1964-67 it dominated drag racing.
correct me if im wrong but wasnt the 427 sohc the the only hemispherical motor in fords lineup... the boss 429 was just like any other BB on the street with conventional heads
I watched Connie Kalitta win Top Fuel at the 1967 Winternationals with his 427 SOHC "cammer" Ford. Other guys running the Ford hemi, at that time, included Tom Hoover, Bob Tasca, Don Nicholson and Pete Robinson. Though I have always been a Chevy guy this is easily my all-time favorite motor. The biggest issue they had in fuel racing was with the timing chain. Robinson even designed a gear system for his "cammer" that, when opened up, looked like the insides of a pocket watch.
MrRonnieG 6 months ago
I'm a Mopar guy but truth be known I'm pretty much a Mopar guy that really likes Fords. I always though the sound of a nice 426 Hemi was nice but this cammer, wow. Man, does this puppy sound sweet.
pencilneck22 7 months ago
the new 5.0 DOHC engine is pretty sweet, but this is the OHC engine I want in a new mustang...
2strokedetroit 10 months ago
Hi 002,
I got the info you sent me pretty cool stuff.
But,,,,, Id STILL GOT FOR THE GOOD OL,, CAMMER,
original, classic and one of a kind.
and YOU DONT HAVE TO HAVE A BLOWER TO GET EXTRA POWER OUT OF IT,
Just put velocity stack's and or dual carb;s on it and there it is,
except for drag racing you dont need all that power except to brag to peoiple.
can you get back to me with production number's on this engine?
kirkconway 11 months ago
Is this motor for sale?
bubblejomay 11 months ago
Baddest, Nastiest engine Ford ever made.
ANYTHING THEY HAVE NOW????
It's NOTHING COMPARED TO THIS PUPPY
Zowwwie.
kirkconway 11 months ago
@kirkconway I want to see a New Dohc 427 with VCT Like the 5.0L
qbubbaq 11 months ago
@kirkconway Ford Racings supercharger upgrade for the 2011 GT500, the TVS, bolts on in 3 hrs and produces up to 850 hp.
watch?v=L-uoGCLzHVs
The 2013 GT500 gets bored out to 5.8Ls and will be topped with the TVS, and it will produce around 620 hp on pump gas, do 60 in 3.7s, and will pass emissions tests.
1vdn992 11 months ago
my 429 has a comp cam hooker headers and to 12in glasspacks and sounds just as good as that does stock i want two one for my fairlane and the other for my corvette to piss off chevy guys
WR250FGNCC 1 year ago
droooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!!!!!!!
gtsuperjet 1 year ago
It's almost mandatory when someone puts an engine video up, people are going to argue over who did what when and how, etc etc. Just enjoy the sight and sounds of it, and in this case a big High 5 to the person who built it and is lucky enough to own such a beast. Ever notice that any video of a Cammer running usually blows the mic to hell too?
headcase01 1 year ago
Arguing this motor over the Chrysler hemi is like arguing whether Natalie Portman is hotter than Anne Hathaway. All four of them Cammer, Hemi, Natalie and Anne, will turn your head, empty your wallet, break your heart, and leave you wanting more.
pete1729 1 year ago
most bad ass american engine ever made,yeah gm and chrystler have nothing on this.
1a2b3cdf3 1 year ago
they new it would eat the 426 for lunch!.....so Chrysler said they would pull out of NASCAR if the SOHC motor was allowed!.....so they banned it......
jeepers2655 1 year ago
@jeepers2655 Both engines were banned at the same time.....Chrysler withdrew its factory teams AFTER the ban,get your facts straight mate.....Ford should have made a street version,like Chrysler did....As for eating the 426 for lunch,we,ll never know
68bobba 1 year ago
@jeepers2655
stupid crybaby mentality back then,
The ford would of eaten them alive. with that cammer.
totallly stupid thinking.
It's the same thing nowday's.all glitz, and silly sponser's,
bunch of stupid hype.
kirkconway 11 months ago
NICE !!!!!
gotwofast1 1 year ago
I read somewhere that the Cammer was made as an answer to the Chrysler 426 Hemi,which didn,t debut until the 64 Daytona 500....and was for Nascar only,but Nascar banned both the Cammer and the Hemi,so the Cammer was used for drag racing only.....Is that true?
68bobba 1 year ago
@68bobba Much like the Hemi, it was just too damn fast for NASCAR. Other manufacturers were getting pissed so both of them were pulled:P
Tallerico500 1 year ago
@Tallerico500
The engine Dodge was designing, until the SOHC was banned, was a DOHC beast that would have trounced everything. It never made it past the planning stages.
Dodge had the Hemi on the track before Ford made the Cammer. The rules were changed to ban Ford's beast. The rule change made it to so you had to make so many cars with the engine from the factory. The 427 SOHC cost more than most cars by itself back then. Later they made a semi-hemi with the Boss 429.
ytykg 1 year ago
OOPS! The street Hemi came out later, but it still met the rules. It was their DOHC engine that was banned.
ytykg 1 year ago
So when is that motor gonna get a car wrapped around it? Any plans?
tripleJ1955 1 year ago
The engine stand must be firmly grounded. One good wooba would flip it. Massive sound.
robkal56 1 year ago
Great to see this engine available again thru places like Pop's Performance and Detroit Competition Engineering!
7Lscjracer 1 year ago
Hate to see anyone modify these rare engines for more HP..... I think they were 616HP@6500 rpm? This engine came out in/around 1963? And we are now 47 years later in 2010....I wonder what this engine could do given 47 more years of engineering expertise, improved materials, etc, etc?
MrCyclone21 1 year ago
@MrCyclone21 Shelby is making complete engines with all of the new 2010 engineering mods you can get. They aren't rare any more... If you have the bucks.
xbones101 1 year ago
@xbones101 to build as close to an original would cost $30-60K. pretty crazy
Firecat400EX 1 year ago
@MrCyclone21 they were anywhere from 390hp up to 657hp. 390hp being the "W" code 1968 4v model, and 657hp coming from the "D" code 8v model. that 616hp model is the "L" code engine (4v), and it makes it at 7000rpm. And yes, it came out in February 1963 in Ford Galaxies and some Mercurys. The 2 highest horsepower "L" and "D" 427's were only available in 64 Galaxie 500s. These engines were all options and most of the time were dealer installed.
Firecat400EX 1 year ago
@Firecat400EX How could an engine that wasn,t made until 1964 be available in 1963 model cars?....
68bobba 1 year ago
@68bobba
"Ford introduced the 427 as a production/race engine in 1963, declared the year of "Total Performance" by Henry Ford II. Ford, tired of losing to the Chrysler 426 "Hemi" at the drag strip and on circle tracks, developed the 427 to compete."..... It was first made in 1963 (not 64), thats how it was available in a 1963 car.
Firecat400EX 1 year ago
@Firecat400EX The 427 engine you refer to is the "Top oiler"NOT the Cammer....The Cammer was introduced in 1964,and never came out in a production car....You really should check you facts mate
68bobba 1 year ago
@68bobba not dis agreeing with you but if memory serves correctly it was a side oiler motor(427) and a top loader trans (4 speed)
1250am 1 year ago
@1250am If you google Ford 427 motors you,ll find Ford made 3 different 427Cubic inch motors.....The top oiler,made in 1963,which a race only engine....the Cammer,(dragrace only)which was made in 1964...and the side oiler in 1965,this was the only engine that came out in production cars(1966 AC427 Cobra)
68bobba 1 year ago
@68bobba been playin with fords for a good number of years and have never heard of the top oiler before. buddy even has a 63 1/2 r code galaxie too. never heard of it before. guess ya learn something new every day.thanks for the heads up.
1250am 1 year ago
@1250am Mate until I googled it,I didn,t know it either......I always thought the Cammer and the side oiler were the only 427ci motors Ford made
68bobba 1 year ago
At least Ford DID build a cammer. Chevy had a few prototype OHC 427's but never put them into production. Easily the best engine Ford ever made.
kctransplant 1 year ago
damn I wish ford racing would make this monster again! this time they could make the timing chain shorter. I love the fact that a motor this big from 40 years ago wants to rap up to 7000 rpms like its nothing, I hope ford can hear me!! we want some cubic inches!! give us some pistons the size of large coffee cans again! can you just see this thing in a new mustang cobra, with coils on the plugs, and fuel infection?
338lapsniper 1 year ago
I get so see one of these bad boys every weekend. Hubby has one in a 1965 Comet. Alcohol...what a ride. Just one NMCA Nostolgia Super Stock this last weekend. Runs a 9.50 index, but goes much faster than that.
iwantthatrightnow 1 year ago
I had the pleasure of seeing one of these back in the late 80's in the San Fernando Valley at one of the gathering spots for classic cars (they might not have even been classics yet, LOL) There was an older man with a '69 Mustang, nicknamed "Pop's Toy" (I think he might have had 2 Mustangs which he transplanted these engines into). Anyway, I read in Hot Rod that the car was stolen a few years after I got to see it. Being so rare, I couldn't imagine where one could hide an engine like this!
culcun 1 year ago
best idea would be to limit the count of valves to 16 and the count of camshafts to two, so 427 sohc would have a valid cylinder head configuration. are the nascars using 5800cc/351cid blocks by the way?
moptim 1 year ago
i have a 1997 ford explorer 4.0sohc v-6 it monster when i drive it my wife scare of it
youpaynow78 1 year ago
sooner or later nascar will go to fuel injection and ohc motors . ford will kick ass
resister79 1 year ago
holy shit i pray for that motor it is like a god
youpaynow78 1 year ago
1 of my all time favorite engines!
jeepers2655 1 year ago
Definitely the most evil Ford engine ever. Even as a die hard Mopar guy, I still love this engine. For those who want one, they are being reproduced, and you can build a brand new one, but it certainly won't come cheap.
69HemiGTX 2 years ago
my dad gave me his 427 SOHC engine he said he got it from one of his race buddies but it's in storage now i plan to put it in a mustang some day it needs work
GundamKnight07 2 years ago
i have one setting in storage i plan to put it in a mustang some day
GundamKnight07 2 years ago
I want ONEEEEEE.
n5ifi 2 years ago
damn thats a bad ass motor thanks for the video
MUSTANGMAN50LX 2 years ago
The baddest Ford engine ever made. The sound of it is music!
rompn4x 2 years ago 18
The 427 SOHC has got to be one of the baddest engines every built. It's a shame there aren't more of them around.
BuckChoklitt 2 years ago
*ever
BuckChoklitt 2 years ago
Hello, this is Wayne, the person who built and is running the SOHC in the video. My girlfriends' daughter posted it for me because I am computer challenged. This is what happened to the engine: which had a welded stroker crank about 496", after 10 passes shifting at 7500 to 8000. I pulled the motor down to a cracked crank. I have the parts to rebuild it (complete new short block) but never did it.
ginalinares 2 years ago
Oh forgot to mention, your profile says you are 54, which is almost 10 years younger than me, and also means that in the supercar days you were all of 12-15 YEARS OLD, so please quit talking out your ass and be silent. You even claimed "as for when I was involved in drag racing was before the 70's" You were not even LEGALLY ALLOWED TO DRIVE BEFORE 1970 so quit lying out your ass you idiot. You continue to embarrass yourself!
victimofcheese 2 years ago
ah!!! victimofcheese .. glad you used your spell check .. as for when I owned the cyclone .. don't care if you know .. as for involvement in drag racing .. license not required .. as for being around Hi Po cars .. license not required not to ride in them .. as for where I live .. you know shit .. as for do I care .. nope.. don't think so .. so off too the beach with you to do you're favorite pastime infatuation .. pounding sand up you 're asshole .. now out of quarters ..
avroarrow2009 2 years ago
@avroarrow2009 Oh so you were drag racing "in the early 60's" when you were 6 years old. Yeah, riiiight. OOPS someone got caught slinging bullshit!! A spellchecker isn't the problem, trying to make a coherent sentence that doesn't look like a retard pounding on a keyboard is your problem. Your latest post, as usual, does not contain ONE SINGLE SENTENCE, nor one single coherent thought. You claim not be drunk, are you sniffing glue? On meth? What is it?
victimofcheese 2 years ago
you amuse me .. involved and drag racing tow different words ..as for bullshit ..you have the corner on that one .. you simply know nothing about me or my history .. but I forgot you're the expert on here .. I don't buy you're 10 yrs older than me .. and seem to be transfixed on my grammatical skills .. well enjoy this on too .. :)))
avroarrow2009 2 years ago
And lastly you resort to insulting my youtube account name, which is laughably stupid even by your hilariously brain dead standards. But, since we're talking about account names, is even more hilarious considering you named your account after the "Avro arrow", which, much like your posting, was a big pile of shit with no use whatsoever. Of course the irony of that would be lost on someone of your mental "abilities".
victimofcheese 2 years ago
Let's give the trailer trash a quick primer in writing English! 1. Sentences begin with a capital letter! 2. Sentences end with a period! Not three in a row, just one! 3. Look up "preposition" in a grammar guide! 4. Random brain malfunction thoughts like "I was involved in drag racing was before the 70's" "leave my parents out of it you on brained" and "perhaps read watch some history" don't make any sense in English, sorry! 5. Look up the words "your" and "you're" and how we use them!
victimofcheese 2 years ago
Oh forgot to mention: the 390 was a dog of a motor, a boat anchor even worse than the chev 396. It was a step down from the 428 and even a step down from the 351c with NO redeeming feature and a ton of weight to go with it. Cyclones were nice looking cars back then, shame about the 14second quarters.
victimofcheese 2 years ago
this is not about the car this is about me asshole .. you first off don't know me .. and you are basing you 're assumption on you're experience .. now I don't know how old you are .. but I certainly can say Iived and breathed during the muscle car hay day and no .. sorry 396 and 351 c did not dominate .. perhaps in you're world .. 66 malibu ss or cornet rt .. charger .. ect weighed any less .. you ever hear of the tunnel port 390 .. highriser or medium riser so with that I say good night ass
avroarrow2009 2 years ago
@avroarrow2009 "sorry 396 and 351 c did not dominate" Where did I ever mention the 396? I called it a BOAT ANCHOR along with the 390, which everyone at the time already knew dumbass. As for the 351c it was hugely popular in the 70's and did plenty of serious work in drag racing. You were probably too busy reading comic books back then to have been out racing and watching races though, so your flat ignorance is no surprise.
victimofcheese 2 years ago
you're about as sharp as a bag of blunt nails .. as for when I was involved in drag racing was before the 70's.. perhaps read watch some history and perhaps you would actually know what the hell you speak of .. you're dumb as shit .. and leave my parents out of it you on brained paramecium ... once again you're name says it all .. you abhorring curmudgeon troglodyte...
avroarrow2009 2 years ago
@avroarrow2009 hahahah you really ARE retarded, aren't you? Can you even form a SINGLE complete sentence in English? Even once? Come on now Timmy, try your hardest!
victimofcheese 2 years ago
pehaps they did run on Factory F 60 series bias plied tires from the factory .. not too bad .. but there was quicker .. they also came with 427 fe engines .. by the way ... and 289's
avroarrow2009 2 years ago
Let's see what the experts have too say about the corvette in the 60 's with the 427 .. what did it run in the 1/4 factory ..
avroarrow2009 2 years ago
427 sohc 4 valves per cylinder .. came in steel .. cast iron... aluminium block Holloman Moody .. never raced at Nascar due to testing .. Mopar and Gm threatened to boycott if Nascar allowed it too run ... 427 was no slouch .. powered the gt40 to win Lemans and humiliate Ferrari .. and was no slouch on the strip either .. no hemi is going to run away from it .. there are history books avail .. good idea to read .. mopar did not dominate ... but in some peoples minds they did ..
avroarrow2009 2 years ago
A Hemi combustion chamber is as good as 2 valves-per-cylinder gets, & Mopar is not the only manufacturer that has made them. Ford's 427 SOHC is a hemi & so is their Boss 429, but the Boss 429 uses quench areas in it's hemi chambers. & for that reason it's called a "crescent" hemi. The Mitsubishi 2.6 I4 & 3.0 V6 has "almost" crescent hemi chambers & is a SOHC.
When it comes to normal aspiration (non-supercharged), 3 valves & 4 valves per-cylinder are better. Somebody makes a 5 valve-per-cylinder
xbones101 2 years ago
The hemispherical combustion chamber was not invented by MOPAR. Just about any innovation you can think of for internal combustion had been tried probably by 1940. EFI was invented in the US in the late 50's and then sold to VW later on. You name it, it was probably tried in GP racing or at Indy in the 1930s.
kblackav8or 2 years ago
What was the first EFI?
StabyMcStabsFace 2 years ago
Bendix Corp in 1957 for AMC
kblackav8or 2 years ago
And also for Mopar in the same year? I know the Germans were using FI in most of their aircraft engines in WWII. I would think that VW could work it out themselves.
StabyMcStabsFace 2 years ago
That was mechanical FI not electronic. Mechanical has been around a pretty long time.
kblackav8or 2 years ago
This is correct. The only thing Chrysler owns is the rights to the name "Hemi" & most people don't even know what that means. Virtually any OHC engine out there today uses the Hemisperical cumbustom chamber & valve layout. So really - its about as big of a deal anymore as saying "my car has fuel injection"
soverign60 2 years ago
I am not a Ford fan but a cammer in a Fairlane would strike fear to many a rat or hemi owner.
mrgears 2 years ago
Canted valve heads and hemispherical heads are two vastly different things.
a little knowledge is a dangerous thing...
vapornet12345 2 years ago 15
@vapornet12345 The SOHC is a true hemi. If you're going to try to make the argument that it's not then here is some food for thought. Go search for a picture of Chrysler's modern day "Hemi" which IMO is nothing remotely close to a true hemi and they are just using the trademark to try and make more sales.
thing503 1 year ago
im a gm man but thats a thing of beauty.
baldymp3 2 years ago
428 cobra jet was pretty good
galaxie 428 not so good
mark4tk 2 years ago
The Galaxie didn't have a 428, the biggest was a 427
Wolfbane13181 2 years ago
dude the 427 sohc was in a totaly different catagory. the duel quad version from the factory was rated at 657 hp. it was an over the counter engine ment for drag racing since nascar rejected its use. and galaxies had the 427 side oiler block thats what the sohc block was based on. but after that simularity it was in a different galaxie all of its own.
CDHIgnorance 2 years ago
see ford just knows how to make such a bad ass motor that even nascar cant handle it hah. cuz chryslers a bunch of bitches that cant take losing.
h200022 2 years ago
Your right. Mopar whined about it the loudest, their argument was that speeds would get dangerously high. Ive always been into G.M. but you got to give Ford its due this was the baddest engine produced in the 60s. I want one.
CDHIgnorance 2 years ago
isnt racing all about who can go the fastest? and yeah i wouldnt mind having one of these in my collection as well.
h200022 2 years ago
Hell I want two! LOL! Had chance in the late '80s to buy one for $500 plus shipping across country. Couldn't close the deal and it still pisses me off.
linkboat 2 years ago
A work of art!
KenMacMillan 2 years ago
hmmm. (drooling profusely)
I want it!
bigorangetrucker 2 years ago
Is the Engine Block aluminum?
F650Rcr 2 years ago
No. but about 400 hundred sets of original heads were.
CDHIgnorance 2 years ago
"so yes only a highly modified 428 would own a 426 Hemi in racing. " Notice I said "stock" and you're replying with "highly modified" Stock, the 428 is a boat anchor. Period.
victimofcheese 2 years ago
Also cyclones were big heavy unwieldy cars not remotely designed to drag race, so quit telling tales about some land yacht cyclone winning jack shit in a drag race unless it was a highly modified f/x full on drag car. The stock/production cyclones were mule wagons.
victimofcheese 2 years ago
you seem to think you are an expert .. where you even breathing in the hay day of high performance .. you tell me what 390 series m y cyclone had in it since you are such and expert .. and what the Holly carb and size and the jetting was and the cubic inches .. do you know what type of push rods came with my 390 series .. and manifold .. and the compression ratio .. and the rearend gears .. from the factory .. and simple one .. was it auto or top loader ..
avroarrow2009 2 years ago
So wait...you want me to tell you what options your car came with? Are you retarded or drunk?
victimofcheese 2 years ago
well you're the expert .. you know everything .. what is the cubic inches on a 390 ..
avroarrow2009 2 years ago
no but I think you have done some pretty good crack victimofcheese and probably wiped out on you're three wheeler once too many times and landed on you're brain cell
avroarrow2009 2 years ago
Again: you want me to identify what options your car came with? You're an inbred retard. You keep talking about some 390 you own when nobody gives a shit and it has nothing to do with this video or anything anyone has posted here. What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you drunk right now?
victimofcheese 2 years ago
Bob Glidden or any of the Nascar Boys .. or sorry out quarters wasted enough time with an expert ..
avroarrow2009 2 years ago
@avroarrow2009 Oh and please, have your parents proof-read your posts from now on, because your spelling, punctuation, sentence structure, and most importantly cohesiveness are frighteningly terrible. On par with someone who rode the short bus with the other window lickers. You make next to no sense. Again, are you posting drunk or on drugs? Try to form a clear thought before posting, then try to put it into word form like us normals do, ok?
victimofcheese 2 years ago
you ever ride in a cyclone gt 390 series .. probably not ..
avroarrow2009 2 years ago
Lots of hilarious comments here. Just saying this: the STOCK BUILD 426 hydraulic lifter hemi makes 500+ horsepower. Stock. I know, I have seen one on an engine dyno rebuilt to bone stock specs and run right the fuck in front of me. The SOHC Cammer was a beast, and put out gobs of horsepower, to the tune of 575+. But these OMG MY 428 WAS DOPEEEE tales are hilarious. The 428 even in SCJ form was a big heavy dog and couldn't even break its own displacement in horsepower stock. Quit dreamin
victimofcheese 2 years ago
The 427 cammer actually had 616HP@7000 RPM'S with a 4 BBL and 657HP @7500 RPM'S with Dual 4 BBL'S as to what Paul Munro is saying because he build's exact replica 427 cammers but with more power and better designed with cooling and just everything overall. But they're a have nice price tag of $35,000 USD . And the bone stock 428SCJ had 405HP@5900 RPM'S and 447TQ@3900 RPM'S so yes only a highly modified 428 would own a 426 Hemi in racing.
untoldguitarist 2 years ago 2
I dont know if you consider a CJ modified or not but look it up and you'll find the 1969 mach1 428 CJ W/dragpack was the quickest out of the box that year.
uhmarikun 2 years ago
No I don't consider that Modified, But I do know what will make a 428 preform better from what I have heard from a lot of other Ford guys is using 427 Ci Parts with it. Kinda like if I used a 289ci Block with 302 internals it will preform a lot better then just a 302 with 302 parts. My friends uncle did that with a 289Ci 66 Hi Po block and he did the same mods as he did with his 302Ci he had in the car before. And he said that 289 would walk all over the 302 with the same exact mods done to it.
untoldguitarist 2 years ago
Untoldguitarist; the 289 and 302 blocks are identical, you couldn't tell the difference between them, there is zero difference in performance. The first 1968 302 block was nothing more than a 289 block with a different casting ID plate on the side. As for the 428 FE, it was a street engine, and had no cross bolts to secure the mains, the way a 427 does, since the 427 is a race engine. Therefore, the 428 wouldn't survive the RPM that the 427 would.
AmericanThunder 2 years ago
I am just going by what my friend told me; He said that the Built 289 had more balls to it after he did the same mods as his 302 that he sold off to a friend. As for my self I actually have a 68' 302Ci Short Block bored .30 w/ TRW Flat Top Racing Pistons 12.0:1 Comp, Forged 4340 H beam Connecting Rods, Forged 4340 Eagle Crankshaft. And all I need is a set of heads, Solid Tappet Camshaft w/ Lifters , Intake, Carb. Once it is complete I plan on buying a 80's Ranger and stuffing that motor in their
untoldguitarist 2 years ago
Well it may be splitting hairs, but there actually is a difference between the two. In the 302 the cylinder walls are a tad deeper. This was to keep the piston stabe with the increased stroke.
soverign60 2 years ago
The site for those who wish to know is (w w w . allford . net . au), if you're interrested into Paul Munro's Cammers
*Without parantes, and no space between the words, i set it up like this to post, otherwise it wouldn't post*
Eddiemotor 2 years ago
The Rumble Of The Beast should have been the titel of this vid :)
Eddiemotor 2 years ago
that is a very cool engine hearing it run is very cool
harleynshelby 2 years ago
fuck that dodge 426. that 427 would rape that piece of shit. u dumb cocky fuck. respect the engine and the power it can produce
89Fox351w 3 years ago 3
dodge 426 would kick its ass
cummins60 3 years ago
No it would not the Dodge 426 Hemi had 480HP in the Nascar ones and the Ford 427SOHC had 616HP. I like Mopar too as well as Ford any Muscle Car for that matter but that Cammer Motor was just a lot better motor for performance and a lot rarer too. Also Banned from even being used in Nascar because it had way more power then the 426 Hemi.
untoldguitarist 2 years ago
It's not that it made too much power, it's that Ford never put it into production cars. The rule was that it had to make it into at leats 500 production cars per year, otherwise it's really not a "stock car" motor. In comes the BOSS 429.
Interesting hearing it run though. I think I'll have to go for a ride in my Dad's friends AC Cobra hehe...
nitrorustlerpro15 2 years ago
I didn't know that but I did know that is had more power then the 426 Hemi that was used in Nascar. Because their is a performance shop in Australia owned by a guy named Paul Munro and he has a Original 427 SOHC and he said stock from the factory it had 616HP and even more power with (2)4BBL Carbs; But what is really cool he is making crate 427 SOHC Motors so the public can buy them again like in the 60's but they cost around $35,000 for a fully built one and around $6,000 just for the block.
untoldguitarist 2 years ago
you can get them in the US as well .. crate motor .. 06 gt Mustang has one in it .. special order through Ford ..
jocomego 2 years ago
Yeah that would be a monster motor for my 70' Mercury Cougar XR-7
untoldguitarist 2 years ago
it did go into production cars .. special order .. actually an 06 gt mustang had one put into it ..80,000 dollars .. and here in Winnipeg there is a 65 galaxie with it .. put in 65 .. original .. and a cobra .. original 67 ..
jocomego 2 years ago
so true .. and it was a deadly monster on the strip .. it's horse power was under rated for insurance purposes .. because you can order it in a production car .. came in steel , cast , and aluminum block .. and you can order it from ford today .. there is a guy with a mustand who had it installed in an 06 gt mustang .. 80 ,000 dollar price tag ..on here on youtube .. you just have too look ..
jocomego 2 years ago
Actually Dodge and Chrysler and Chevy in 60's threatened to boycott NASCAR after they saw it run a track test in the Fords .. so Ford ended up using the 427 and 390 series engine and later 428 and which was no slouch .. and then later the replacement to the SOHC 427 .. as reported on Diamond P Productions .. it made the chrysler Hemi look like a thing from the FLINSTONES era ...
jocomego 2 years ago
The Ford cammer had 657hp for the duel quad and 616 for the single four barrel version that would of been used in the stock cars.
CDHIgnorance 2 years ago
426 DOHC was to be the fighter for the 427 sohc sideoiler,till NASCAR banned them.
3 426 dohc made 1 left.4 valves per cylinder.magnesium heads and intake
170116 3 years ago
if the Cammer was unreliable because of it's advance technology for its time, it's most likely that the 426 DOHC would be even more unreliable, even more risky to be destroyed at higher rpms e.t.c.
Well that's what i suspect.
Eddiemotor 2 years ago
The cammer could rev past 8000rpm. In some of the drag cars of the day they could easaly hit 9000. The technoligy had been widely used in europ for decades,just not on an engine as big as the 427. Very reliable and comfortable at high rpm.
CDHIgnorance 2 years ago
you know, my mustang would be a better platform for that bad boy than your engine stand
91slownotch 3 years ago
mmmm 427sohc
youpaynow78 3 years ago
You bet. I am NOT a Ford fan but cammers are killer!
mrgears 3 years ago
early model 300zx have a mini version of the 427sohc... the head design is identical... except its a v6.. if you really like cammer motors check it out
zak302 3 years ago
damn outside with no air filter..lookn for trouble eh.
thor01243 3 years ago
The Ford 427 SOHC engine was the baddest ass kicking engine ever from Detroit!!!
TurtleFord090 3 years ago 3
AWESOME
RORYALGATE 3 years ago
I wish that someone would recreate this engine out of aluminum. Like Caroll Shelby did with the 427FE.
KenMacMillan 3 years ago
Bill coons is making the heads out of aluminum now. You can build an all aluminum cammer between his heads and a shelby block. You can even have the shelby blocks drilled for a cammer app.
Hospowr1 2 years ago
There's a guy in this years engine masters challenge running one of these.
mikefaille 2 years ago
woulda been great if the 427 Cammer and the DOHC Hemi made it to production..both so powerful and great
mopar43v3r 3 years ago
Enlighten me on this DOHC Hemi? Also I was wondering If anyone makes these crate engines anymore...like the new Boss 302 do they make the 427 SOHC a crate engine you can buy today? Along with some of Ford's other engines like the 429 Hemi and others? I havn't really bothered looking for these crate engines but wanted to find out the easy way. I know people could probably custom build an exact replica but was wondering if you could just buy one from FRPP? Thanks for your answers.
billjackalsmith 3 years ago
You mean that DOHC Hemi that Chrysler did?
Well, as i've heard, it was made as an respond to the Ford Cammer 427 SOHC V8, only made in about 2 examples, maybe a third one but that is not confirmed, with double overhead camshafts, but i don't think it would be better than the Cammer since overall, if using DOHC-design, it's neccecary to use more than two valves per cylinder to archive more power, and it simply wouldn't work, i think.
The Cammer instead, does work, althought it have 2 valves.
Eddiemotor 3 years ago
Well that's what i've heard, i might be wrong, so excuse me if it's not correct.
Eddiemotor 3 years ago
Yes the aftermarket is building parts and complete engines that will only set you back about 25.000$. or more. By aftermarket I mean private engine builders and parts makers,not summit or jegs. The engines and parts are not mass produced.
CDHIgnorance 2 years ago
Ladies and gentlemen that is what 657 "stock" horsepower sounds like!! (616 with one 4v)
roushracing1 3 years ago
Music to my ears! My day will start with a smile thanks to your video. What are you going to put it in? Will you post a video? We wanna see more!
An afterthought; who could want to drive one of those tuner cars with the coffee can mufflers after hearing this?
jakespop56 3 years ago
na thats the lawn man 70 model boss 429 that went overseas and one got smashed
scottwstew 3 years ago
Its too bad Ford only made about a dozen of these engines, most of them were snatched up by drag racing. I know two of these engines were put in some special mustang, and then sent over seas for our troops to enjoy, and one mustang got smashed, and the other is owned by Goldberg.
djaeckels1983 3 years ago
There were a lot more then a dozen made.
kblackav8or 3 years ago 2
Yea, couldn't you order these badboys over the counter? I just think its a shame they weren't allowed to run in NASCAR.
FreedFromAdversity 3 years ago 3
yes and actually a 2006 mustang gt had on put in .. price tag a little over 80,000 .. it's on youtube .. special order Ford ..
jocomego 2 years ago
You are right.. these ford hemi heads were on alot of the boats rollin up and down Parker.. 427 SOHC
kbess228 3 years ago
Here in centrel oregon a guy had a Sanger borg warner Velvet drive in the 70's. it had the 427 side oiler engine. that thing was the fastest boat in oregon till the 90's.
1969MustangMACH1 3 years ago
sorry, i was just reading the back of this model i have.
djaeckels1983 3 years ago
Ive seen a guy about 7 years ago with a 19 foot Howard flat bottom cruisng thru the channel with a "Cammer" 427 SOHC. They made a few more than a dozen..
kbess228 3 years ago
As stated below, the 427 SOHC was never a production engine. The engine and service parts could only be purchased over the counter. If you were around at that time, you would know this...
Mitch
mitchblack 3 years ago 3
what a rare piece.....wow
firemun59 3 years ago
The heads on that engine are priceless. I wish i had them so i could make my original 428 Thunderbird into a phantom, a car built to factory specs but never really was.
81broncoman 3 years ago
I think I just wet myself.
Ick69 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
they had this engine in the cobra. there was a recall on it however. it seems that a lot of dumbasses didn't realize they had a nuke attached to their right foot while driving and ended up around a tree or whatever was there that the car wanted to hug. my question is why isn't this in a Probe or a Contour or another really tiny car?
fellfromeden 4 years ago
No, they didn't. Don't talk out your butt. They used the 427 side oiler in the Cobra, not the SOHC cammer.
victimofcheese 3 years ago
limited numbers of them were made and almost all of them were wrecked inside a few months. the engines were later pulled from any production cars and used primarily for drag and race applications.
ifukurfacelikeurmoms 3 years ago
NO, they fucking didn't. Don't spread misinformation and bullshit. The 427 cammer was NEVER used in cobras, the engine was made for homologation purposes for nascar, and NEVER saw use in a cobra. Ever. Please don't spread lies and urban legends.
leyenda006 3 years ago 3
I don't think the cammer ever made it to the street. Maybe in a few cars, but not enough to recall.
Rhenoism 3 years ago
None made it into a production car ever. These two guys are just making stuff up. The cammer was banned by nascar before it could be homologated and it was only used in drag cars, where it could be ordered as a crate motor over the counter. NOT in any production car ever.
victimofcheese 3 years ago
The cammer was NEVER put into a production car ever. NASCAR banned it before it could be homologated, and it only found use in drag racing, where it could be bought over the counter from Ford as a crate motor. Never used in a production car ever. Period.
victimofcheese 3 years ago
hahahah accidental double reply XD
victimofcheese 3 years ago
cheese doesn't seem too bright, but he is right! j/k ;)
sombra720 3 years ago
it was it is in a 65 galaxie here in wpg original and 67 cobra .. original
jocomego 2 years ago
exactly accurate
firemun59 3 years ago
His username says it all. The 427 SOHC never saw a production vehicle, it was made to counter the Chrysler 426 hemi for NASCAR. Sadly it was shot down by Bill France Sr. He knew it was too fast! It ended up it drag racing where it saw duty in Top Fuel an A/FX racing. From 1964-67 it dominated drag racing.
randlec6 3 years ago
The 69 429 Hemi found in the Mustang Boss was made for that I think.. rape that little Dodge 426.
bigggy172123 3 years ago
correct me if im wrong but wasnt the 427 sohc the the only hemispherical motor in fords lineup... the boss 429 was just like any other BB on the street with conventional heads
MetalMan400 3 years ago
No, the Boss 429 is a hemi also.
randlec6 3 years ago
The heads had modified hemi-spherical design, so yes it was an Hemi engine.
bigggy172123 3 years ago