@thirlestanelodge2 Thanks. I got to sing this with a lady at an open mic at a wine bar recently. What a difference when you actually try and re-create an opera aria in front of a crowd (albeit a small crowd).
@Amiduffer I sing in little concerts in a cafe'. The last was all Spanish, great fun , great response. I think the next could be baroque music,so I am doing this and another pot boiler. but as I am only learning, they are quite sufficient a challenge for me.They are hard . Can I ask, why did you change the word from "e're" to "ever"? The abreviated " e're" only needs the one note written by Handel, not the two of "ever". I think it also places the text in the context of its period too .
@Amiduffer Oh! I'm sorry, I haven't had time to look there. I'm off to see. I wish I had your pluck, to sing on here. I feel I got some where today with my small attempt.
Lastly, one of the reasons why this piece is so popular is because of the ending where you repeat the first part. You get to improvise away from the baritone style of singing, in which a lot of musicians have their own input on how to end a beautiful song.
Not bad for an amateur, you need lots of vocal training before attempting a piece like Where'er You Walk. Breathing distortions, no push or resonance from your vocal box. Wrong pronunciation or diction of the words, totally off key. Stand up when you sing. I can tell that you're singing from ear and that you haven't had the opportunity to actually take a look at the written music. Know the story behind Semele so you can put more emotion behind your words.
Amiduffer, you did a good job here! Nice vibrato, unconstricted sound and a nice sense of the music.
Of course you didn't sing it operatically, but that requires a whole different vocal approach--not just 'tweaking'. Watch Ainsley's version and see how his voice 'sits'. Opera is a bit like 'calm shouting' however awful a metaphor :-s
Opera requires a deep vocal placement, absolute legato line, open vowels, and a clear ring throughout the voice. It actually makes the aria harder to sing!
@flaze3 I'll have to disagree somewhat. This attempt was not very good, and I should have done more work before recording it, but making video and learning how to sing require work, and you can't improve unless you try and get feedback. I actually had the luck to meet a former opera conductor for a very short time recently. In any case, check out my other attempt of this song, and see what you think. Thanks for the critique.
Ah, I was thinking it was a well known portait of Pope. For some reason it will not let me link but the portrait I am thinking of is well known with Pope in what at least appears to be a turban. Just Google image it and you will see.
In any case, it was Pope that wrote the words in his Pastoral, "Summer". It's worth a read, if only for context, but also because he was such a great poet. You might even read that pastoral which I think is short enough for a video.
I'm wondering if you still have the instrumental file. I'm singing this at a wedding in a week and still haven't organised it, wondering if it's available somewhere. Thank you.
Um. Where to start. I assume you haven't been classically trained. You may know your classical music, but your vowels do not sound very classic. So much work must be done, and I'm not sure where to begin. There are so many elements to classical singing, and I find this to be a lousy interpretation.
What a fantastic medium the Internet is that would allow you to entertain me in this way. Well done for making the video - a timeless air - what would Handel think about the way you have been able to share your obvious love of his music in this way.
I think that he would have been pretty critical of this attempt, from what I have heard of Handels manner of dealing with people. As others have pointed out, there were a number of things I did wrong, which I admit I did. I did put up a second attempt while driving, see if you notice any differences.
It's nice to sing something for himself, why not? Of course singing this air as a professional is another thing. But the melody is so wonderful that could give yourself some peace. If you want to sing it better you have to use a more mature voice, studying more every day, studying the style, the correct pronounciation of vowels and sound articulation, even you are an English speaker, and have a consciousness of voice, above all. But I insist, it's nice to sing for himself.
Thank you for the critique. The trouble with singing in a small room is that you are very close to the mike, and singing normal bel canto is very loud. On this, it was sung at half voice. You're right though, you have to open your mouth.
and last of all in a couple of places you lost timing, which is natural, but just try beating the time out while your singing to get used to the tempo. You have a good voice and with some more training you could be great.
just a couple of things, you need to put more emphasis on the vowels (and the right vowels it is an 'a' in 'shade' not 'e') and less on the consonants as you are over pronouncing them. Also it is e'er not ever, there is not enough space in the phrase for the extra syllable. Two last things, this is Baroque you seem to be using a Pop/Modern voice placement at the front of your mouth, when you should be focusing your resonance at the rear of your mouth.
Thank you, good critiques are hard to come by here on YT. 8) Any professionally produced versions that you recommend I could learn from? I've learned Bel Canto method where you place the sound in the sinus cavities in order to project properly. How do you think I should deal with that?
with Bel Canto method, you shouldn't actually place the sound in the sinus cavities as this creates a nasal timbre to the voice, which can be desirable in Pop music, but not in Classical which requires a pure tone. Instead you should focus on when you sing that there is a vibration in your sinus cavities, this is desirable as it shows that you have the correct vocal placement. One method to be able to do this is you hum until your sinus vibrates or tickles, this is the correct vocal placement.
God Bless you dear Drew for your kindness, maybe others sing more "tecnically" but you communicate the real sense of wonderful music stright to our hearts (spero di non aver fatto troppi errori ;-)))
also, it characterizes the relationship between Jupiter and Semele, as familiar.
thirlestanelodge2 6 months ago
Well done. You have a lovely tone to your voice. I am learning to sing this and know how difficult it is.
thirlestanelodge2 6 months ago
@thirlestanelodge2 Thanks. I got to sing this with a lady at an open mic at a wine bar recently. What a difference when you actually try and re-create an opera aria in front of a crowd (albeit a small crowd).
Amiduffer 6 months ago
@Amiduffer I sing in little concerts in a cafe'. The last was all Spanish, great fun , great response. I think the next could be baroque music,so I am doing this and another pot boiler. but as I am only learning, they are quite sufficient a challenge for me.They are hard . Can I ask, why did you change the word from "e're" to "ever"? The abreviated " e're" only needs the one note written by Handel, not the two of "ever". I think it also places the text in the context of its period too .
thirlestanelodge2 6 months ago
@thirlestanelodge2 That was one of the mistakes I corrected in the other video.
Amiduffer 6 months ago
@Amiduffer Oh! I'm sorry, I haven't had time to look there. I'm off to see. I wish I had your pluck, to sing on here. I feel I got some where today with my small attempt.
thirlestanelodge2 6 months ago
Lastly, one of the reasons why this piece is so popular is because of the ending where you repeat the first part. You get to improvise away from the baritone style of singing, in which a lot of musicians have their own input on how to end a beautiful song.
YaNgGuY07 11 months ago
Not bad for an amateur, you need lots of vocal training before attempting a piece like Where'er You Walk. Breathing distortions, no push or resonance from your vocal box. Wrong pronunciation or diction of the words, totally off key. Stand up when you sing. I can tell that you're singing from ear and that you haven't had the opportunity to actually take a look at the written music. Know the story behind Semele so you can put more emotion behind your words.
YaNgGuY07 11 months ago
Amiduffer, you did a good job here! Nice vibrato, unconstricted sound and a nice sense of the music.
Of course you didn't sing it operatically, but that requires a whole different vocal approach--not just 'tweaking'. Watch Ainsley's version and see how his voice 'sits'. Opera is a bit like 'calm shouting' however awful a metaphor :-s
Opera requires a deep vocal placement, absolute legato line, open vowels, and a clear ring throughout the voice. It actually makes the aria harder to sing!
flaze3 1 year ago
@flaze3 I'll have to disagree somewhat. This attempt was not very good, and I should have done more work before recording it, but making video and learning how to sing require work, and you can't improve unless you try and get feedback. I actually had the luck to meet a former opera conductor for a very short time recently. In any case, check out my other attempt of this song, and see what you think. Thanks for the critique.
Amiduffer 1 year ago
I think the picture of Alexander Pope in the background is very fitting. Did you know what the words are his, from his Pastoral poem, "Summer"?
wainscottbl 1 year ago
@wainscottbl Hi. That is a portrait of the composer Felix Mendelssohn.
Amiduffer 1 year ago
@Amiduffer
Ah, I was thinking it was a well known portait of Pope. For some reason it will not let me link but the portrait I am thinking of is well known with Pope in what at least appears to be a turban. Just Google image it and you will see.
In any case, it was Pope that wrote the words in his Pastoral, "Summer". It's worth a read, if only for context, but also because he was such a great poet. You might even read that pastoral which I think is short enough for a video.
wainscottbl 1 year ago
you are the biggest dork ever......................hahhaahha.......to be honest I was laughing the entire time
TheCatcherkid 2 years ago
I doubt that. You seem like a congenital liar.
Amiduffer 2 years ago
@TheCatcherkid
And perhaps you're the rudest most self centred selfish person ever..
who knows?
acorntechnique 1 year ago
I'm wondering if you still have the instrumental file. I'm singing this at a wedding in a week and still haven't organised it, wondering if it's available somewhere. Thank you.
paraphasiclotus 2 years ago
Um. Where to start. I assume you haven't been classically trained. You may know your classical music, but your vowels do not sound very classic. So much work must be done, and I'm not sure where to begin. There are so many elements to classical singing, and I find this to be a lousy interpretation.
wayounga 2 years ago
I agree. Did you compare this one with the later attempt? I've had no formal training, true.
Amiduffer 2 years ago
hi i agree if u had lessons u would get your voicer a lot more stronger and better dictation :) u have god potetntial keep it up!
could u possibly send me this instrumental im singing this song at my school it would be brilliant thanks a lot
chris141294 2 years ago
@wayounga for an amateur I thought it was pretty good actually.
flaze3 1 year ago
Not bad at all. Really.
It's obvious you weren't going for a classical sound, but more of a on-pitch one. :P
But nonetheless, good job.
I did this piece at a solo festival back in February.
I received a 2+ (3-, 3, 3+, 2-, 2, 2+, 1-, 1, 1+).
It was my first solo, as I'm just graduating high school, haha.
Just a few parts I'd touch up on, but yeah. [:
derajrambo 2 years ago
Hey Drew, I like how you handled this! Your phrasing and overall interpretation is just right for this piece. I enjoyed your
singing very much. Keep it up!
Rob
Oaktownrob 2 years ago
I did another try at this while driving, which actually sounds better. I had a lot to learn after this one. 8)
Amiduffer 2 years ago
What a fantastic medium the Internet is that would allow you to entertain me in this way. Well done for making the video - a timeless air - what would Handel think about the way you have been able to share your obvious love of his music in this way.
shanomc111 3 years ago
I think that he would have been pretty critical of this attempt, from what I have heard of Handels manner of dealing with people. As others have pointed out, there were a number of things I did wrong, which I admit I did. I did put up a second attempt while driving, see if you notice any differences.
Amiduffer 3 years ago
It's nice to sing something for himself, why not? Of course singing this air as a professional is another thing. But the melody is so wonderful that could give yourself some peace. If you want to sing it better you have to use a more mature voice, studying more every day, studying the style, the correct pronounciation of vowels and sound articulation, even you are an English speaker, and have a consciousness of voice, above all. But I insist, it's nice to sing for himself.
Bajazet 3 years ago
What did you think of my more recent try.
Amiduffer 3 years ago
It sounds as though you are really bored when singing this.
ragnarkisten 3 years ago
Really? I wasn't bored when I made it.
Amiduffer 3 years ago
it is not wherever. there is no audible 'v' sound. Line should be sung.---wair air you walk. Also open your mouth!!!!
singspieler 3 years ago
Thank you for the critique. The trouble with singing in a small room is that you are very close to the mike, and singing normal bel canto is very loud. On this, it was sung at half voice. You're right though, you have to open your mouth.
Amiduffer 3 years ago
Lord Have mercy!! Kyrie Eleison!
singspieler 4 years ago
and last of all in a couple of places you lost timing, which is natural, but just try beating the time out while your singing to get used to the tempo. You have a good voice and with some more training you could be great.
jarrahwilson 4 years ago
just a couple of things, you need to put more emphasis on the vowels (and the right vowels it is an 'a' in 'shade' not 'e') and less on the consonants as you are over pronouncing them. Also it is e'er not ever, there is not enough space in the phrase for the extra syllable. Two last things, this is Baroque you seem to be using a Pop/Modern voice placement at the front of your mouth, when you should be focusing your resonance at the rear of your mouth.
jarrahwilson 4 years ago
Thank you, good critiques are hard to come by here on YT. 8) Any professionally produced versions that you recommend I could learn from? I've learned Bel Canto method where you place the sound in the sinus cavities in order to project properly. How do you think I should deal with that?
Amiduffer 4 years ago
with Bel Canto method, you shouldn't actually place the sound in the sinus cavities as this creates a nasal timbre to the voice, which can be desirable in Pop music, but not in Classical which requires a pure tone. Instead you should focus on when you sing that there is a vibration in your sinus cavities, this is desirable as it shows that you have the correct vocal placement. One method to be able to do this is you hum until your sinus vibrates or tickles, this is the correct vocal placement.
jarrahwilson 4 years ago
I had not thought about it. thanks maybe I might do that!
homousios 4 years ago
thanks! I am also trying this. This is beautiful
homousios 4 years ago
Thank you! Are you going to post it up here?
Amiduffer 4 years ago
God Bless you dear Drew for your kindness, maybe others sing more "tecnically" but you communicate the real sense of wonderful music stright to our hearts (spero di non aver fatto troppi errori ;-)))
ciao Drew e grazie davvero grazie!
settemesi 4 years ago
Well, with Felix looking at you, you have to try. Wouldn't want to dissapoint the great artist himself.
Amiduffer 4 years ago
Avete multato.
Amiduffer 4 years ago