Wie interpretiert man diesen eindeutigen Text, wo es keine Erlkönige gibt:
"Du liebes Kind komm geh mit mir: Gar schöne Spiele spiel ich mit dir." "Ich liebe dich, mich reizt deine Gestalt; Und bist du nicht willig so brauch ich Gewalt." Mein Vater, mein Vater, jetzt faßt er mich an! In seinen Armen das Kind war Tot."
Goethe war vermutlich Kindesvergewaltiger - wie diesen kranken Text anders verstehen.? Gretchen hat er wohl auch vernascht und in den Knast gebracht.
wikipedia: Während der 55. Lindauer Psychotherapiewochen 2005 stellte Luise Reddemann die These auf, das Gedicht handele von einem Alptraum eines Opfers sexualisierter Gewalt, das den Täter in zwei Personen zerlege, nämlich in den Vater als „guten Vater“ und den Erlkönig als „bösen Vater“. Dass der Täter in Gestalt des „guten Vaters“ dem Opfer einrede, es bilde sich die Tat nur ein."
i forgoot to say that there is a film abot hermann prey called "stille meine liebe". in this film you`ll find the most emotional recording of the "erlkönig" ever!!!!!buy it!=)
why did you load it up in such a bad quality???there are lots of cd with the "schwanengesang" on the market...so don`t buy any mix-cd or stuff like that! and if you want to hear other "lieder" than the schwanengesang you have to buy "willkommen und abschied" thats a new cd with great recordings from one of the last concerts in japan!!
It's really unfortunate that the sound quality isn't better--I was fortunate enough to hear Hermann Prey sing this in person and this interpretation is so extraordinary--really gives me chills the way he gets across the panic in the child's voice. In my opinion it doesn't get any better than this--I wish he had been able to have Gerald Moore accompanying him
Prey is marvelous, like Fischer-Dieskau in this lied. I too love Anton Dermota in opera, especially Mozart. Second only to Fritz Wunderlich or Jussi Björling (in Italian opera, but also not in lieder, alas--compaire the latter's Adelaide (Beethoven) with that of Wunderlich where this fact is painfully apparent). I've always found Prey's the best, so far, that is:)
I agree with you (if you think of the same singer... Fischer-Dieskau am I right ?). And I still think Hermann Prey is an extraordinary musician, both are from the greatest
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Wie interpretiert man diesen eindeutigen Text, wo es keine Erlkönige gibt:
"Du liebes Kind komm geh mit mir: Gar schöne Spiele spiel ich mit dir." "Ich liebe dich, mich reizt deine Gestalt; Und bist du nicht willig so brauch ich Gewalt." Mein Vater, mein Vater, jetzt faßt er mich an! In seinen Armen das Kind war Tot."
Goethe war vermutlich Kindesvergewaltiger - wie diesen kranken Text anders verstehen.? Gretchen hat er wohl auch vernascht und in den Knast gebracht.
Pervers = hohe Kultur?
edgar0001 2 weeks ago
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wikipedia: Während der 55. Lindauer Psychotherapiewochen 2005 stellte Luise Reddemann die These auf, das Gedicht handele von einem Alptraum eines Opfers sexualisierter Gewalt, das den Täter in zwei Personen zerlege, nämlich in den Vater als „guten Vater“ und den Erlkönig als „bösen Vater“. Dass der Täter in Gestalt des „guten Vaters“ dem Opfer einrede, es bilde sich die Tat nur ein."
edgar0001 2 weeks ago
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Putain D'allemand De Merde !!!!!
mellegwen1 1 year ago
@mellegwen1 aaaah, ça sent la frustration scolaire ça XD
PatateRoussoiste 11 months ago
@mellegwen1 Du Arsch!!!!
dokhorst1 5 months ago
@mellegwen1 Du Blödmann!!!
dokhorst1 5 months ago
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98Disturbia 1 year ago
i forgoot to say that there is a film abot hermann prey called "stille meine liebe". in this film you`ll find the most emotional recording of the "erlkönig" ever!!!!!buy it!=)
panhardpl17tigre 1 year ago
why did you load it up in such a bad quality???there are lots of cd with the "schwanengesang" on the market...so don`t buy any mix-cd or stuff like that! and if you want to hear other "lieder" than the schwanengesang you have to buy "willkommen und abschied" thats a new cd with great recordings from one of the last concerts in japan!!
panhardpl17tigre 1 year ago
It's really unfortunate that the sound quality isn't better--I was fortunate enough to hear Hermann Prey sing this in person and this interpretation is so extraordinary--really gives me chills the way he gets across the panic in the child's voice. In my opinion it doesn't get any better than this--I wish he had been able to have Gerald Moore accompanying him
lousalome1 1 year ago
Excellent artist! great baritone... really good! the best!
lieder444 1 year ago
Prey is marvelous, like Fischer-Dieskau in this lied. I too love Anton Dermota in opera, especially Mozart. Second only to Fritz Wunderlich or Jussi Björling (in Italian opera, but also not in lieder, alas--compaire the latter's Adelaide (Beethoven) with that of Wunderlich where this fact is painfully apparent). I've always found Prey's the best, so far, that is:)
mckavitt 1 year ago
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PJinBston 2 years ago
I agree with you (if you think of the same singer... Fischer-Dieskau am I right ?). And I still think Hermann Prey is an extraordinary musician, both are from the greatest
tenor9216 2 years ago
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PJinBston 2 years ago
please can you tell me in which Hermann Prey's cd did you find it?! I'm looking for this Lied sung by him but I couldn't find it!!!! can you help me?
PlacidoDomingoIsN1 2 years ago
Yes, I can help. It is on the CD The Singers - available from Amazon and the price is quite reasonable. Great songs included on this CD.
Duhbstar 2 years ago
@Duhbstar Is this the quality of that CD?
Theorocupy 2 months ago
I've got a Philips Classics CD of Hermann Prey, baritone with Leonard Hokanson, piano 1-20 and Karl Engel, piano 21-24
Die Schone Mullerin 1-20
21 Rattenfanger
22Erlkonig
23 Der Musensohn
24 An den Mond
neelsdp1 2 years ago