I was picking my son up from school. There was such a putrid stench in the air. We're close to water sewage trmt. plant but, - this was completey different. (lived here for years). Then going home this golden haze of dust like particles were at person level and I walked right through it - but it was in such a small condensed area I questioned it but dismissed it as some wierd residue from someone maybe renovating their home or something. But, I have NEVER seen anything like it.
This south pole vid clearly shows a persistent contrail forming at ground level due to the large amount of water resulting from engine combustion on the hercules transport, but even the slight breeze disperses the ice fog from human breath.That human breath fog will persist for hours, but it will be blown far and wide.
Your breath does cause ice fog clouds to form, but you do know humidity varies don't you?
For persistent cloud to form it requires to be high humidity or supersaturation. You breath also rapidly disperses due to the small volume of water & large amount of turbulence so proportionally a long thin trail won't form
Jet engines release over a kilo of water for every kilo of fuel burnt.
In alaska & other cold places ground bound ice fog forms. That is your persistent contrail from humans & cars.
He is full of methane and you must be blind, go on post on my videos and dispell what I have recorded. You can't because your afraid and wrong personally science is more entertaining than Hollywierd conspiracies like yours. :o)
Jet turbines are not 100% effiecient closer to 60% at the most so puke unburnt hydro carbons on us every second liquid unburnt fuel. Good for kids eh? your defending an industry that does release complex liquid chemicals as a part of business. Grow up act like an adult and deal with it instead of attacking others views. Pathetic,
Unburnt hydrocarbons = soot = the nucleation sites for water ice condensation the science writers have been describing that you chemtards have been arguing against.
You have just supported the wise people who understand you are freaking out over water ice contrails.
They didn't say 'soot' i.e. unburnt hydrocarbons, they said biological particles such as bacteria & fungus and mineral dust. Does jet exhaust leave a trail of bacteria and mineral dust? Maybe it does. Enough to act as nuclei that attract enough water vapour to form clouds large enough to spread out to cover the sky? Maybe it does. That is what I would call weather-modifying pollution, regardless of whether it is intentional or not. And that, I believe, is something to be concerned about.
I know the article is refering to all clouds. But my point is that if these particles can act as nuclei in natural clouds, they could also act as nuclei in artificial clouds, i.e. what results from the 'soot' of airplane exhaust.
What is so hard to understand about that?
PS Are you this rude and patronizing in real life?
The soot and mineral dust described by the article come from natural sources, not aeroplanes so your statement "That is what I would call weather-modifying pollution, " is nonsensical. Sure, you could call a dust storm "pollution" but then you would be an idiot
Are you so illogical and deliberately misleading in real life? The comments you make in your vid above are misleading and you deceptively accuse genuine scientists of disinformation.
No, jet exhausts do not leave trails of bacteria and mineral dust. Engine combustion would destroy - incinerate any biological material. Minerals would destroy engine bearings and turbines.
The ice referred to in cirrus clouds form around naturally occurring aerosols and always have since before the time of the dinosaurs
They are not saying mineral dust forms contrails. The article does not say that.
MM, You forgot ingesting residual hydro carbon waste is not good for you. Weak sidestep the hydro carbons left no clouds today. Water ice with unburnt fuel mmmmm your so in need of fresh air.
Mineral dust seems strange to you despite the little factor you've obviously never heard of called "Volcanos", and wind blown dust. Ever heard of a saharan dust storm?
Ever heard of evaporation, which raises dust into the sky?
Ever heard of brownian motion which supports dust in the sky?
Ever heard of erosion?
Ever heard of water spouts, seaspray and ocean evaporation which raises biological material from the sea into the atmosphere.?
It doesn't get real cold where I am and here it is almost summer and we still have jet trails growing into clouds, so they are definitely not made up of ice crystals. It appears one of the evil doers who support the spraying programs has been here and downvoted all the previous comments.
It's not warm at 30,000+ feet in the lower stratosphere.
Most passenger planes cruise around 30-35,000 ft.
That's higher than the peak of Mount Everest which is only 29,000ft, not known for being balmy even in the peak of summer even though it is equivalent in latitude to Orlando Florida. At the height of summer it is well below freezing at that altitude.
The planes I record are at 5-7 000 maximum, you are so wrong and have not references to mainstream sources or science. FAIL LOL! as the kids would say on your posts.
I'm disgusted how ignorant and illogical Chemtards are, indicating spectacular failings of education systems worldwide to teach dumb people critical thinking.
Condensation and contrail formation from high altitude freezing humid conditions come from the gas laws, dew point, saturation vapour pressure and combustion chemistry. You can't dismiss these fundamental principles of physics and chemistry by lame platitudes Stevie boy.
Known zoom factor tells you what the field of view is and if your not as dumb as the words or crtics you use you can figure out distance. YOU LOSE AND YOU ARE A LOSER DEFENDING JET POLUTION WITH BUNK ATTACKS. Your attacks are so grade 2 man grow up face the truth not your fantasy of it and the world you cannot grasp. Post on my vids if you can smart guy/girl/it.
Yes.. always up at 3am with the restless.. lots of colds, coughs, sneezing around here.. and it's been raining for 3 days straight.. first time it's rained this hard in years! Awesome observations ******* :)
Chelation suppositories will pull these metals out of your body.
Volcano2014 1 week ago
Yes turn your tv off! and read great advice.
goodwave67 1 year ago
I was picking my son up from school. There was such a putrid stench in the air. We're close to water sewage trmt. plant but, - this was completey different. (lived here for years). Then going home this golden haze of dust like particles were at person level and I walked right through it - but it was in such a small condensed area I questioned it but dismissed it as some wierd residue from someone maybe renovating their home or something. But, I have NEVER seen anything like it.
LiamYumHome 2 years ago
This south pole vid clearly shows a persistent contrail forming at ground level due to the large amount of water resulting from engine combustion on the hercules transport, but even the slight breeze disperses the ice fog from human breath.That human breath fog will persist for hours, but it will be blown far and wide.
watch?v=UtISR1_OzSQ
GregOrca 2 years ago
Some dumb idiots thumb down a comment that links to clear evidence of persistent contrail formation from a plane at ground level at the south pole.
Good post thanks Orca.
It is nice to be presented with well researched image evidence such as that.
Amusing that morons try to thumb it down & hide any facts that disprove their delusions.
MeanMarthur 2 years ago
Your breath does cause ice fog clouds to form, but you do know humidity varies don't you?
For persistent cloud to form it requires to be high humidity or supersaturation. You breath also rapidly disperses due to the small volume of water & large amount of turbulence so proportionally a long thin trail won't form
Jet engines release over a kilo of water for every kilo of fuel burnt.
In alaska & other cold places ground bound ice fog forms. That is your persistent contrail from humans & cars.
GregOrca 2 years ago
LOL! try and get counted viewing my vids and post references of you claims pleeze!
STEVEDIGIBOYtv 2 years ago
Claims?
He is writing well established atmospheric science and chemistry.
Chemtrail believers are incapable of even the simplest scientific research or logical thinking.
Sad.
MeanMarthur 2 years ago
He is full of methane and you must be blind, go on post on my videos and dispell what I have recorded. You can't because your afraid and wrong personally science is more entertaining than Hollywierd conspiracies like yours. :o)
STEVEDIGIBOYtv 2 years ago
Jet turbines are not 100% effiecient closer to 60% at the most so puke unburnt hydro carbons on us every second liquid unburnt fuel. Good for kids eh? your defending an industry that does release complex liquid chemicals as a part of business. Grow up act like an adult and deal with it instead of attacking others views. Pathetic,
STEVEDIGIBOYtv 2 years ago
Unburnt hydrocarbons = soot = the nucleation sites for water ice condensation the science writers have been describing that you chemtards have been arguing against.
You have just supported the wise people who understand you are freaking out over water ice contrails.
MeanMarthur 2 years ago
They didn't say 'soot' i.e. unburnt hydrocarbons, they said biological particles such as bacteria & fungus and mineral dust. Does jet exhaust leave a trail of bacteria and mineral dust? Maybe it does. Enough to act as nuclei that attract enough water vapour to form clouds large enough to spread out to cover the sky? Maybe it does. That is what I would call weather-modifying pollution, regardless of whether it is intentional or not. And that, I believe, is something to be concerned about.
thetruthergirls 2 years ago
"They" are not saying it comes out of aeroplanes!
They are talking about nucleation of ALL clouds, not just condensation clouds.
ALL CLOUDS!
READ THE ARTICLE!
Metalic Mineral dusts comes from dust storms and volcanos
Clay contains aluminium. You have no understanding of Geology do you!
MeanMarthur 2 years ago
You are deliberately dishonestly misrepresenting the content of the article.
MeanMarthur 2 years ago
I know the article is refering to all clouds. But my point is that if these particles can act as nuclei in natural clouds, they could also act as nuclei in artificial clouds, i.e. what results from the 'soot' of airplane exhaust.
What is so hard to understand about that?
PS Are you this rude and patronizing in real life?
thetruthergirls 2 years ago
The soot and mineral dust described by the article come from natural sources, not aeroplanes so your statement "That is what I would call weather-modifying pollution, " is nonsensical. Sure, you could call a dust storm "pollution" but then you would be an idiot
Are you so illogical and deliberately misleading in real life? The comments you make in your vid above are misleading and you deceptively accuse genuine scientists of disinformation.
To lie and deceive like you do deserves contempt
MeanMarthur 2 years ago
You have no clue and it shows, who you shillin for. LOL! Post on my vids or go back to playing fantasy warcraft, much more your speed.
STEVEDIGIBOYtv 2 years ago
No, jet exhausts do not leave trails of bacteria and mineral dust. Engine combustion would destroy - incinerate any biological material. Minerals would destroy engine bearings and turbines.
The ice referred to in cirrus clouds form around naturally occurring aerosols and always have since before the time of the dinosaurs
They are not saying mineral dust forms contrails. The article does not say that.
MeanMarthur 2 years ago
MM, You forgot ingesting residual hydro carbon waste is not good for you. Weak sidestep the hydro carbons left no clouds today. Water ice with unburnt fuel mmmmm your so in need of fresh air.
STEVEDIGIBOYtv 2 years ago
You also twist the content of the article. It says the dust is the nuclei of all clouds, not just contrails.
You complain about disinformation, but you wrongly read conspiracy into a scientific article that says nothing of the sort.
You are lying and distorting what the research actually shows .
Go do a geology and geography course and learn some basics about the hydrologic cycle!
Read how mineral dust get spread by the wind.
GregOrca 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
LOL.
You are serious aren't you?
Mineral dust seems strange to you despite the little factor you've obviously never heard of called "Volcanos", and wind blown dust. Ever heard of a saharan dust storm?
Ever heard of evaporation, which raises dust into the sky?
Ever heard of brownian motion which supports dust in the sky?
Ever heard of erosion?
Ever heard of water spouts, seaspray and ocean evaporation which raises biological material from the sea into the atmosphere.?
You are ignorant girl !
GregOrca 2 years ago
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GregOrca 2 years ago
Excellent vid, especially the text in the end.
givemetruthandwisdom 2 years ago
It doesn't get real cold where I am and here it is almost summer and we still have jet trails growing into clouds, so they are definitely not made up of ice crystals. It appears one of the evil doers who support the spraying programs has been here and downvoted all the previous comments.
givemetruthandwisdom 2 years ago
It's not warm at 30,000+ feet in the lower stratosphere.
Most passenger planes cruise around 30-35,000 ft.
That's higher than the peak of Mount Everest which is only 29,000ft, not known for being balmy even in the peak of summer even though it is equivalent in latitude to Orlando Florida. At the height of summer it is well below freezing at that altitude.
GregOrca 2 years ago
The planes I record are at 5-7 000 maximum, you are so wrong and have not references to mainstream sources or science. FAIL LOL! as the kids would say on your posts.
STEVEDIGIBOYtv 2 years ago
Yeah, sure, 7,000 max based on your own personal radar altimeter. LOL
Your maths and science is so bad I bet you can't do trig anyway.
Tell us how you worked out the altitude.
Orca.. no references to mainstream sources! LOL
Boy you are a moron Steve. Established science is exactly what Orca uses for all his posts.
He's a trained scientist and engineer. You are not.
You understand nothing of science, aviation or meteorology.
MeanMarthur 2 years ago
Keep slagging it shows how frightened you are of peoples opinions. LOL! He has no science and science can be paid for you niave child.
STEVEDIGIBOYtv 2 years ago
So you haven't explained your claims of knowing what the aircraft's altitude was.
You specified 7000 max. Based on what?
A guess or mathematical calculation? Back up your claim.
If you can specify an altitude then you must know how you did it and can describe that here.
MeanMarthur 2 years ago
Who's frightened?
I'm disgusted how ignorant and illogical Chemtards are, indicating spectacular failings of education systems worldwide to teach dumb people critical thinking.
Condensation and contrail formation from high altitude freezing humid conditions come from the gas laws, dew point, saturation vapour pressure and combustion chemistry. You can't dismiss these fundamental principles of physics and chemistry by lame platitudes Stevie boy.
You can't explain any altitude calcs can you!
MeanMarthur 2 years ago
Known zoom factor tells you what the field of view is and if your not as dumb as the words or crtics you use you can figure out distance. YOU LOSE AND YOU ARE A LOSER DEFENDING JET POLUTION WITH BUNK ATTACKS. Your attacks are so grade 2 man grow up face the truth not your fantasy of it and the world you cannot grasp. Post on my vids if you can smart guy/girl/it.
STEVEDIGIBOYtv 2 years ago
You know you actually need to accurately identify the exact spec of plane. You need to know the make and model and kow the specs of that.
I've seen from you comments you don't know those so your claims of known altitude are wrong.
MeanMarthur 2 years ago
All for MM, c'mon post some crap on my vids if you can and not end up looking too stupid. It helps when you spew hate,
STEVEDIGIBOYtv 2 years ago
Yes.. always up at 3am with the restless.. lots of colds, coughs, sneezing around here.. and it's been raining for 3 days straight.. first time it's rained this hard in years! Awesome observations ******* :)
4eyes2sea 2 years ago
very questionable indeed
good find
lowrider1007 2 years ago
Good find this is the stuff that needs to stop.
NewOperationDarkStar 2 years ago