THANK YOU SO SO MUCH. There realy are people who (A) know what they are talking about, (B) Can and will stand their ground intstead of being a sheep and following what someone says because they also play in some movie or what ever and finally (C) Can and will challenge what other people say even if it means defending the less popular side
The fact that former Sun editor Kelvin McKenzie was even allowed near the studio, let alone on the show says it all. Any show that gives that spiteful, racist, middle class reactionary right-wing hatemonger a platform is not worth watching.
How do you make the claim that it's 'addictive'? Physically, it's impossible to be addicted to a video game, you can't get addicted to a video game anymore than watching something on TV or reading a really good book.
Somebody help me! Whilst attempting to briefly seek exile from the "wonderful" world of reality, where things are bad and parents are abusive, I loaded up my video game system only to find a soul destroying and physically damaging game from which I obviously derived NO PLEASURE WHATSOEVER! Oh me, oh my, this game has literally ruined my entire life!
Doh. Seeking an intellectual discourse from a fucking gardening twat like Alan Titchmarsh and compulsive liar and ex phone hacker Kelvin Mackenzie is like asking for reasoning from Hitler. As for that Peasgood woman, good god, she was a bloody soap actress for gods sake. How hypocritical. Look out for a 'tsuanmi of violence in our homes 10 years from now' what a bunch of berks.
these guests seem too stubborn and stupid to admit they're wrong. the guy defending the games did a good job, although had i been in his shoes i would've pressed the other guests further about the violence in films and how its just as easy for a 10yr old to order an 18 film off the net as it is for them to order 18 rated game.I've been playing violent games and war games for years now, im still not 18 and it hasn't done me any harm. I've never had the urge to immitate something i've done in GTA.
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I think the argument that people always love to bring up is the ol' "Ive played videogames all my life, and ive never killed anyone...yet..." I don't think that a very good argument. Because people have certainly imitated vg's as well as films in crime.
I would say however. Those panel of "sensible people" can't get through their thick skulls is that GAMES ARE RATED! 12, 15, 18. Its quite simple. If you are younger then the intended age, you shouldnt be playing them...simples!
@rorrt Tell me one crime that a person imitated from a video game, please i would love to hear it (also please work on your grammar Not trying to be rude just saying)
(I meant to write " I don't think thats a very good argument" please forgive me that i missed the 's' out.)
There has been evidence of people intimidating Grand Theft Auto, in a case where teenagers, younger than 18, stole their father's guns (TEC 9's i believe), and went out and shot at cars driving by. Resulting in a death.
BUT! That said, there is as much evidence to say films have inspired shootings and other crime.
@rorrt But what about before the said incident? anything could have happened to set that kid off he could have had a bad life he could have been beaten neglected any number of things but people use games as a scapegoat for there own problems games don't kill people, people kill people the same can be said about films
The video game guy provided a fantastic defence, usually I watch these debates and the person defending doesn't state good points or cocks it up but this guy was great!
I love how they realise that despite the blatant one sidedness of the debate, Tim is destroying their arguments one by one so they constantly cut him off and ask irrelevant questions so they can attack him.
That MW2 airport mission is not playable whatsoever, unless the player chooses. and if a 9 year old chooses to play the level, then the parents let them buy the game in the first place. How about start blaming poor parenting? or maybe even drugs, alcohol, or abusive elders. Video games are the escape from all that shit, not the cause.
@5324er Thank you so much man i totally agree, after a hard days work i just want to come home grab something to drink and play a nice video game to calm my nerves, it's more a releaf then an addiction.And your right it all falls on the parents if they let there 12 year old kid play a violent video game and you see the ESRB rateing on the box dont use video games as a scapegoat to cover up your horrible parenting
@TokyoReborn yeah i know. im not sure what the status on this whole video game issue is currently, but i doubt they will get their way. There are so many good points that gamers have to defend video games, and theyre some pretty legitimate ones.
Oh no i've been playing skyrim for a while now and ive grown a strong hatred towards Frost trolls! they look alot like gorrillas! but am i going to rage and fly to africa to kill one? no, im not.
The next time anyone is hopelessly outnumbered, whether it's somebody getting mugged by a gang on the way home or a battle between the rebel alliance and the empire, take comfort in knowing that it can be done and the dude in this video showed us how.
I wouldnt pay attention to people hateing video games, people tried to demonise rock and roll and look how big that got! just give it a few years, as the old generation moves out and ours move in we will set whats socialy acceptable, and since many of us play video games, we might just see it getting as big as say movies or even rock and roll!
i hate discussions like this when they purposely bring one knowledgeable gamer into the subject and outnumber them 3 to 1, even though they have no knowledge themselves on these games
the host of the show is so stupid, how are you going to take on a topic you know nothing about. by the way, it's not necessary to go to a cinema to watch movies, there's the tv, computer, phone, ipod, etc. why play violent video games?........ why people like to watch violent movies? damn, that lady clearly doesn't know anything about sex. there are more people who are addicted to porn than video games even kids. you need proof go to a high school and ask those kids.
Nobody realises (probably due to her being an unknown) that the batty woman in this video did voicework for a violent video game - 'Martian Gothic: Unification' for PC and PS1.
I think Tim was trying to make them see his point of view, however these people failed to understand due to the fact they kept on continuing on asking questions that were missed on his point of view
gore is what youll see when you grow up so games ready you up for those moments because it isnt all rainbows and fun times fox...making lazy parents aint going to make a better future to the world
really do you think people need you to analyse things for them on their behalf? why not just post the bloody clip and let us interpret it in our own ways?
@mintyvision Because this is a presentation of MY OPINION that I WANTED TO MAKE. Also, doing that would be in violation of YouTube's terms of service.
@mintyvision Plus: unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately as far as job prospects and security goes), people today need simple things explained to them.
@LiamRproductions A young child playing a modern warfare game would probably be shocked. Shocks like that may scar for life. Playing a brutal game as an adult, though, shouldn't be damaging at all - if you're not fucked up anyways that is :D
@LiamRproductions For the weak of heart. if someone sees someone dying in a video game, and as realistic as they are these days, they have the ability to mentally scar a certain percentage of people. Like MGS4, there are times when you are in an alert phase and right before you slit someone's throat, they beg for mercy, before screaming to death. And constantly throughout war zones you hear people screaming in pain after being shot. It's not a pretty sight if i do say so myself
@BlockedChannel If video games can be horribly violent and damaging, then so can books, the bible, movies, literature, and every other form of media and imagery out there. Using video games as a scapegoat for violence is getting old.
@BlockedChannel No, they really can't...and if they are so called 'damaging' it's not that the games themselves, but the child has a few problems outside of it. Mental disorders or they're poorly taught, or even deeper problems. If anything they help you keep from being violent yourself.
No kid is going to kill a person on Xbox and say: "that was cool. I'm going to do that in real life." no one is going to throw their life away over a game.
they are making all this up? what about the actual parent preferance. why can't a parent just look at a game and decide from there? it's their child not yours. o and this is addictive? ever heard of crack or marijuana? think lady. get with it.
Not to mention the fact it is the parents responsibility on whether or not their child is playing video games. Games are rated for a reason and by ignoring that rating you are risking the chance of your child being opened up to gritty incidents and topics.
Anyone who cannot understand the content of video games is not to be repeated in real-life situations should not be playing video games in the first place.
Alan Titchmarsh: everyone's favourite politically correct arsehole.
First off Titchmarsh is lumping every single video game into one category and into one criticism. Not every game is full of sexism or violence.
Secondly video games have an undesired effect on those who are already sexist or violent. I played GTA for hours on end - did i ever want to go around nutting people in the street? Of course not. I realise it is a game and a game only - a cornered off world where extraordinary things happen. And that's all it is.
@jackheaney who are most probably sexist or violent already*. Me and my friends obviously understand video games are for entertainment purpose and they do not have any bearing on our behaviour in the real world.
They are fun ways to pass the time. That's it - they aren't guidelines for social behaviour and if people are influenced by the content of Grand Theft Auto then the question marks should be pointed at them, not the game.
seriously.....wat the fuck is wrong with people? the closest thing IVE seen 2 sexism is how the armor fits the female toons....and if they knew anything they would c that ther ARE females that beat the shit out of ppl in games i mean look at samus (with the exception of other m)
oooh yyeeaa i play gta and cod, i feel like going outside and robbign a store oh and if the clerks a women ill rape her then brutaly murder her yea because i have no morals..........you cant judge games or gamers if you have not expirenced it yourself -_-
ok ok i get that people go insane over getting pissed at a video game but i apologize to god and to the people i hurt by prayer so no i'm not insane bout video games.
@13narwhalsFTW He debates very well, though he could hardly get a word in with those stupid fucks interrupting him whenever he gave a good point and that ignorant crowd that sided with the host.
@ultimatekotorfan They just wanted to hear themselves talk.He should have just pulled out a PSP and let them finish talking because he never got a word in.
WHOO! I have a violent games and apparently I am now a violent person. We Gamers play Games for fun, I play gears of war and SIMS. So am I only going to be classified as a violent person on account of having a entertainment device that has violence?
Oh, my god! These people in this video are a bunch of stupid fucking idiotic morons. These people as well as that other idiotic moron Jack Thompson need to stop blaming all the world's problems on video games and entire video industry as a whole. Video games aren't to blame violent crimals violent behavor, but a person bad and horrible upbring since their parents didn't raise their right by teaching them good moral and ethical values.
Oh, my god! These people in this video are a bunch of stupid fucking idiotic morons. These people as well as that other idiotic moron Jack Thompson need to stop blaming all the world's problems on video games and entire video industry as a whole. Video games aren't to blame violent crimals violent behavor, but a person bad and horrible upbring since their parents didn't raise their right by teaching them good moral and ethical values by teaching the difference between what is right and wrong.
Oh, my god! These people in this video are a bunch of stupid fucking idiotic morons. These people as well as that other idiotic moron Jack Thompson need to stop blaming all the world's problems on video games and entire video industry as a whole. Video games aren't to blame violent crimals violent behavor, but a person bad and horrible upbring since their parents didn't raise their right by teaching them good moral and ethical values by teaching the difference between what is right and wrong.
This is so stupid, Alan & Julia can't even think of any constructive arguments to come back with, they just come back with nonsensical statements like, "You can't stop them from going into a house and putting a video on, you can stop them from going into a cinema", and "films aren't interactive, video games are".
The audience is just as uneducated and ill-informed as they are, for cheering for them. Then again, it might just be sound effects, instead of a real audience...
gta iv, doom1 and 2, left 4 dead 1 and 2 AC 1 2 brotherhood and revelations , these are all epic games, the parents are too lazy to check, im allowed every game on earth, nothing can stop us from gaming, its not the games that drive us mad, its assholes like Alan titchmarche and shows like panorama that are telling everyone a bunch of BULL
Fact: The act of playing video games cannot trigger the chemical reaction in the brain that causes true physical addiction. People need to stop talking about games as if they are crack cocaine, the wine that bitch drinks whilst writing her "erotic novels" is far more addictive than a video game could ever be.
Thank you LiamRproductions for showing me how ignorant most people are on the subject of violent video games and how they, "effect today's society." (no sarcasm)
These assholes are talking about shit they don't know. The one guy that actually PLAYS the games, whereas the other 3 idiots that don't, can't hardly get a word in because of their ignorant views on the subject matter.
I play shooter games, as does probably 90% of American teens, and the only aggression I have is towards the people I have never liked. And I do NOT suffer from depression you stupid bitch, nor do I suffer from low self esteem and I care very much about my friends and family. Burn
First: full metal alchemist music for the first minute. FTW! Second and back to subject, Alan and his group are stupid and of course video games do not promote these things
As for promoting sexism and racism and hatred in general.
That is too much of a generalisation. The most racist influence in any game ive played were the players themselves on multiplayer games, but that has nothing to do with the games, just those individual's personalities.
Sexism I could see somewhat, let's be honest, even now the general population of gamers is majority male, so a lot of female characters are poor cliches, but also once again the players themselves perpetuate this too.
Even though I play quite a few games I can understand some of the viewpoints, let's be honest I know plenty of people who shouldn't be let near a video game due to both their tempers and general mental instability.
But the important thing is that if these are adults it is up to them and their choice to play, although I think more people ought to admit that too much video game playing can have adverse effects on people.
As for kids, it really is the parents responsibility.
God, this is just as bad as this assembly at my school. They hired a lady to talk BS about video games while we were subjected to it. Then later some students who wrote the school newspaper actually wrote an article stating how dumb that woman was and that they, along with the rest of the student population, wondered why are school would sink so low as to give us an assembly to waste our time and try to convince us that video games are bad.
Tim Ingham actually hit all the points he was supposed to--no proven links, parental controls on all consoles, ratings, NOT ALL GAMES ARE FOR KIDS, and the comparison to violence in other media. He even hit on the "why" of violence in games.
I would have liked to have him demand for the name of that woman's "study", or the school it was from, or to demand who the other two idiots were and why they were qualified to speak, but overall, kudos to him.
actually violent video games can be a form to relive stress. I actually think that kids that dont play video games and have a lot of stress in their life actually become violent and people who play video games are calmed down and not violent at all.
It makes me so angry that the only person who was talking sense was the only person booed, it's as if there was a panel with a bunch of paedophiles talking about how raping children is okay and Mother Theresa telling everyone how they were wrong and immoral and people were booing Mother Theresa.
Hey wait didn't movies and rock n roll get this bullshit when they started coming out...........hmmmm sensing a trend what new exciting trend can we use as a scapegoat now!
Titchmarsh should just go back at what he's good at....Mowing lawns. Promotion of "racism, sexism and hatred"? Read the Koran it's all there in abundance. Consoles today all have parental lock features so parents can stop kids playing age restricted games. Most violent crimes are committed by ADULTS who don't play games so statistically you're less likely to commit violence by playing games and the ones who do have the IQ of a peanut and are unhinged in the first place.
How do Video games promote sexism and racism? this has being in existance since the beginning of modern society. Those two problems have been WORSE before video gaming was even considered to be created.
Honestly, though, Liam, I don't care about government studies towards video games. The video game industry is huge & makes tons of money, so it would only make sense that the governments of the U.S. & U.K. would defend video games.
The main thing that I hate about this discussion is, they act like movies are acceptable, and video games somehow aren't, despite the fact that ALL of their complaints towards video games are common aspects of movies.
Julia just says, "Films aren't interactive, video games are." So what? Why is that a problem? ELABORATE.
I killed a grunt in Halo! I think I'll go on a bloody rampage through New York City! Retards... And ooohh they're addicted! Why don't they just call people who like playing football addicts too? God they condemn people who're having fun by playing videogames despite never actually trying it for themselves.
Hey fucktards, see that little letter in the bottom of that game called "God of War" that says M? Thats called a rating, and unless you regularly expose your 8 year old to tits and extremley gory violence, i suggest you buy a wii and mario kart. Its called good parenting.
@DahPurpleHippo Or just try to find PS3/360 games with E-ratings (because they DO exist, take the Lego games, Little Big Planet, and ModNation Racers for example).
If you only play GTA all the damn time, then maybe.
People need the sense that if you have enough will and brains that you never repeat video games in real life. The poeple who play GTA and do it in real life should be sent back to the depths of Early Childhood. :P
Man I'm 14 and that old lady didn't know what the hell she was on about. I play games like manhunt 2, postal 2 and gta 4 and I'm not a violent person I haven't even got in to a fight before. God people like her make me angry.
@TheGamerOfNewZealand *Gasps and sounds the alarms* You're angry that someone opposes what you like!? ADDICT! GET OFF YOUR CRACK/GAMES! In all seriousness though, I'm even younger than you and yet, even after playing MK 9, I don't think I can uppercut someone's head off. I don't know though, maybe I should try! ;P Heck, people around me don't even think I play video games because I'm so polite and nice. And when I tell them, they think I'm lying, until I show them. Two peas in a pod mate. :D
Why would the guy defended video games go on such a bull shit show...and to some british people why is there so much bull shit shows like this on your television stations?
@Veyneru well......yeah fox news is BS. It's just anytime i see something slandering gaming it seems to come from the UK side on some random show where they guy just spews out random non accurate facts or makes a complete ass of himself
People who oppose violent video games = Moronic, Lack of Information, know almost nothing about video games, aren't aware of the of the parental controls and ratings, and completely, utterly BIAS.
@Xealix98 I have read it, thank you for noticing :')
If you truly are being sarcastic, however, then I can only be sad that you have never read it. It's a nice book, especially if you're looking for racism, sexism, and hatred!
@ZeldaFrEaK21354 You obviously haven't read the New Testament. You just looked at the bad parts of the Old Testament, and thought, "Oh no, this cannot be any good."
@ZeldaFrEaK21354 I think I understand why many people accuse the Bible of promoting hatred. The Bible clearly condemns behaviors that are considered socially acceptable in today's society (such as homosexuality, sex outside marriage, etc.), and sinners in the Old Testament were very harshly punished.
However, in the New Testaments, Jesus Christ teaches us to forgive our sinners and love our enemies. He sacrificed himself so that our sins could be forgiven.
@catholicgamer99 Ummmm ok but it STILL PROMOTES HATRED, SEXISM, AND VIOLENCE. And I love how you all say that shit "Oh you can't look at the old testament! It's from back then" ok, so why do you constantly quote it when referring to gays? Also, why do we even sell bibles with the old testament if you're not supposed to listen to it? The truth is, it's a disgusting book, and half the people who believe if haven't even read it. Unlike you, I actually have.
feel sorry for the guy there to defend games, the look of "what the fuck am i wasting my time for?" was sorta apt
nayte23 3 days ago
THANK YOU SO SO MUCH. There realy are people who (A) know what they are talking about, (B) Can and will stand their ground intstead of being a sheep and following what someone says because they also play in some movie or what ever and finally (C) Can and will challenge what other people say even if it means defending the less popular side
JoeyBoy24Seven 6 days ago
Someone neets to tell that cunt that if kids are playing 18 certificate games, then it is the fault of their parents, not the games makers.
karadan100 1 week ago
The fact that former Sun editor Kelvin McKenzie was even allowed near the studio, let alone on the show says it all. Any show that gives that spiteful, racist, middle class reactionary right-wing hatemonger a platform is not worth watching.
CaptainQuo 1 week ago
Sooo, is FarCry 2 promoting racism?... No...Putting only white people in the game would be racism... Which isn't the case.
Poodleinacan 1 week ago
How do you make the claim that it's 'addictive'? Physically, it's impossible to be addicted to a video game, you can't get addicted to a video game anymore than watching something on TV or reading a really good book.
MetroidJunkie2007 1 week ago
Maybe that old woman should watch a video with of the death sequence of the Clown from DeadRising... Man that disturbing...
Poodleinacan 1 week ago
Somebody help me! Whilst attempting to briefly seek exile from the "wonderful" world of reality, where things are bad and parents are abusive, I loaded up my video game system only to find a soul destroying and physically damaging game from which I obviously derived NO PLEASURE WHATSOEVER! Oh me, oh my, this game has literally ruined my entire life!
AZproductions117 2 weeks ago
hahahahaha thank you for uploading this video. its always nice to have a laugh or two on these videos.
FantasyX3I 2 weeks ago
Doh. Seeking an intellectual discourse from a fucking gardening twat like Alan Titchmarsh and compulsive liar and ex phone hacker Kelvin Mackenzie is like asking for reasoning from Hitler. As for that Peasgood woman, good god, she was a bloody soap actress for gods sake. How hypocritical. Look out for a 'tsuanmi of violence in our homes 10 years from now' what a bunch of berks.
RoofLight00 3 weeks ago
these guests seem too stubborn and stupid to admit they're wrong. the guy defending the games did a good job, although had i been in his shoes i would've pressed the other guests further about the violence in films and how its just as easy for a 10yr old to order an 18 film off the net as it is for them to order 18 rated game.I've been playing violent games and war games for years now, im still not 18 and it hasn't done me any harm. I've never had the urge to immitate something i've done in GTA.
ampthilluk 3 weeks ago
Pacman promotes racism? Against what, exactly? Ghosts?
TheMetalCat 3 weeks ago
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LiamRproductions 3 weeks ago
I think the argument that people always love to bring up is the ol' "Ive played videogames all my life, and ive never killed anyone...yet..." I don't think that a very good argument. Because people have certainly imitated vg's as well as films in crime.
I would say however. Those panel of "sensible people" can't get through their thick skulls is that GAMES ARE RATED! 12, 15, 18. Its quite simple. If you are younger then the intended age, you shouldnt be playing them...simples!
rorrt 3 weeks ago
@rorrt Tell me one crime that a person imitated from a video game, please i would love to hear it (also please work on your grammar Not trying to be rude just saying)
TokyoReborn 3 weeks ago
@TokyoReborn
(I meant to write " I don't think thats a very good argument" please forgive me that i missed the 's' out.)
There has been evidence of people intimidating Grand Theft Auto, in a case where teenagers, younger than 18, stole their father's guns (TEC 9's i believe), and went out and shot at cars driving by. Resulting in a death.
BUT! That said, there is as much evidence to say films have inspired shootings and other crime.
rorrt 3 weeks ago
@rorrt But what about before the said incident? anything could have happened to set that kid off he could have had a bad life he could have been beaten neglected any number of things but people use games as a scapegoat for there own problems games don't kill people, people kill people the same can be said about films
TokyoReborn 3 weeks ago
Why the hell is he only mentioning the shooting and violent games?
Avascarz 3 weeks ago
The video game guy provided a fantastic defence, usually I watch these debates and the person defending doesn't state good points or cocks it up but this guy was great!
AnglianPro 1 month ago
That dude is awesome... How he makes all these old fucks look like complete twats ... (bad Language Oh dear blame the video games)
yospecker 1 month ago
Jesus christ. They censor the news, the censor the truth, they censor the internet, and not they are trying to censor games.
SteamMonkey115 1 month ago
I love how they realise that despite the blatant one sidedness of the debate, Tim is destroying their arguments one by one so they constantly cut him off and ask irrelevant questions so they can attack him.
dragonforks93 1 month ago
That MW2 airport mission is not playable whatsoever, unless the player chooses. and if a 9 year old chooses to play the level, then the parents let them buy the game in the first place. How about start blaming poor parenting? or maybe even drugs, alcohol, or abusive elders. Video games are the escape from all that shit, not the cause.
5324er 1 month ago
@5324er Thank you so much man i totally agree, after a hard days work i just want to come home grab something to drink and play a nice video game to calm my nerves, it's more a releaf then an addiction.And your right it all falls on the parents if they let there 12 year old kid play a violent video game and you see the ESRB rateing on the box dont use video games as a scapegoat to cover up your horrible parenting
TokyoReborn 4 weeks ago
@TokyoReborn yeah i know. im not sure what the status on this whole video game issue is currently, but i doubt they will get their way. There are so many good points that gamers have to defend video games, and theyre some pretty legitimate ones.
5324er 4 weeks ago
Is it just me or is it super entertaning to watch these retards (exept the guy with the mustach he was awesome)?
Mrcr4palot 1 month ago
Audience must have been full of mongs.
Aruxion 1 month ago
lol she was a voice actor for a video game , fucking hypocrite
BensGaming 1 month ago
GOD DAMIT WOMAN HAHAHA that was great love this video
NeWYoRk2849 1 month ago
Oh no i've been playing skyrim for a while now and ive grown a strong hatred towards Frost trolls! they look alot like gorrillas! but am i going to rage and fly to africa to kill one? no, im not.
jcodym13 1 month ago
@jcodym13 well we'll see wat happens in 10 years time wen the frost trolls in elder scrolls games are super duper realistic :P
sportsfiend12 1 month ago
The next time anyone is hopelessly outnumbered, whether it's somebody getting mugged by a gang on the way home or a battle between the rebel alliance and the empire, take comfort in knowing that it can be done and the dude in this video showed us how.
Hudathan 1 month ago
"Video Games Promote Racism, Sexism and Hatred". So do some movies magazines, and music. Surprise, suprise.
ember1k 1 month ago
I think that those asshole are going to die
MrKILLER1078 1 month ago
Sex writer Julie Peasgood doesn't know what she's talking about,go back to writing about middle-age sex.
KingdomPete 1 month ago
I wouldnt pay attention to people hateing video games, people tried to demonise rock and roll and look how big that got! just give it a few years, as the old generation moves out and ours move in we will set whats socialy acceptable, and since many of us play video games, we might just see it getting as big as say movies or even rock and roll!
alexzinger123 1 month ago
nice FMA background music
liggieep 2 months ago
@liggieep you might want to credit it.
liggieep 2 months ago
Sorry about that but all these people have talked complete shit and i wont stand for it
glitch373 2 months ago
THIS IS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF BULLSHIT IVE EER SEEN IN MY LIFE!!!
glitch373 2 months ago
i hate discussions like this when they purposely bring one knowledgeable gamer into the subject and outnumber them 3 to 1, even though they have no knowledge themselves on these games
wolfseye14 2 months ago
More like Anal Bitchmarsh
SharpFPShooter 2 months ago
@SharpFPShooter Forgot to mention that Julia Pissgood probably hasn't seen saving private ryan yet...
SharpFPShooter 2 months ago
Video games killed my father and raped my mother. You know who else played video games? Hitler!
kuhj278 2 months ago
Julias a fuckin bitch
g021900 2 months ago
I feel sorry for that single smart guy here. He totally didn't deserve the humiliation of being caught on tape conversing with these idiots :(
QuackHaio 2 months ago
Alan: "But [films] have certificates on them and so children under 18 can't get in [the cinema]."
CVG editor: "Video games have exactly the same certificates."
Alan: "But they're at home."
CVG: *Pause and very confused look* "I'm sorry?..."
Alan: "Well you can't stop children getting into a house and putting a video [game] on. You can stop them going into a cinema."
NUFF. SAID.
Oscy 2 months ago
the host of the show is so stupid, how are you going to take on a topic you know nothing about. by the way, it's not necessary to go to a cinema to watch movies, there's the tv, computer, phone, ipod, etc. why play violent video games?........ why people like to watch violent movies? damn, that lady clearly doesn't know anything about sex. there are more people who are addicted to porn than video games even kids. you need proof go to a high school and ask those kids.
fullcharge13 2 months ago
Nobody realises (probably due to her being an unknown) that the batty woman in this video did voicework for a violent video game - 'Martian Gothic: Unification' for PC and PS1.
Nuff said.
Oscy 2 months ago
I think Tim was trying to make them see his point of view, however these people failed to understand due to the fact they kept on continuing on asking questions that were missed on his point of view
blindfire951 2 months ago
gore is what youll see when you grow up so games ready you up for those moments because it isnt all rainbows and fun times fox...making lazy parents aint going to make a better future to the world
aelita12345678910 2 months ago
really do you think people need you to analyse things for them on their behalf? why not just post the bloody clip and let us interpret it in our own ways?
mintyvision 2 months ago
@mintyvision Because this is a presentation of MY OPINION that I WANTED TO MAKE. Also, doing that would be in violation of YouTube's terms of service.
LiamRproductions 2 months ago 7
@LiamRproductions fair enough.
mintyvision 2 months ago
@mintyvision Plus: unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately as far as job prospects and security goes), people today need simple things explained to them.
Oscy 2 months ago
Video games have actually been proven to do the oppisite of causing violence and actually works extremely well as a stress releiver.
jormic33 2 months ago
Actually, Porn is more addictive then video games. The old bat wouldn't know.
hotwhire 3 months ago
Video games can be horribly violent and damaging. They can also be an art form.
BlockedChannel 3 months ago
@BlockedChannel How can they be damaging?
LiamRproductions 3 months ago 6
@LiamRproductions A young child playing a modern warfare game would probably be shocked. Shocks like that may scar for life. Playing a brutal game as an adult, though, shouldn't be damaging at all - if you're not fucked up anyways that is :D
F4S4N 2 months ago
@LiamRproductions For the weak of heart. if someone sees someone dying in a video game, and as realistic as they are these days, they have the ability to mentally scar a certain percentage of people. Like MGS4, there are times when you are in an alert phase and right before you slit someone's throat, they beg for mercy, before screaming to death. And constantly throughout war zones you hear people screaming in pain after being shot. It's not a pretty sight if i do say so myself
MugenDevilTrigger 1 month ago
@BlockedChannel If video games can be horribly violent and damaging, then so can books, the bible, movies, literature, and every other form of media and imagery out there. Using video games as a scapegoat for violence is getting old.
Gulleygrim 2 months ago
@BlockedChannel yeah. If you don't have a brain.
animegamingdude 2 months ago
@BlockedChannel horribly violent, sure. damaging, be more specific and then we'll talk.
liggieep 2 months ago
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@BlockedChannel horribly violent, sure. damaging, be more specific and then we'll talk.
liggieep 2 months ago
@BlockedChannel you are GeeeeeeeeeR8T
TheDev404 1 month ago
@BlockedChannel No, they really can't...and if they are so called 'damaging' it's not that the games themselves, but the child has a few problems outside of it. Mental disorders or they're poorly taught, or even deeper problems. If anything they help you keep from being violent yourself.
Glandorray 1 month ago
No kid is going to kill a person on Xbox and say: "that was cool. I'm going to do that in real life." no one is going to throw their life away over a game.
BlockedChannel 3 months ago
That women was a voice actress for some games, hypocrite
Claverleykid1 3 months ago
i haven't heard one story about this except the fake ones that they are making up.
LetsAGoPlaythroughs 3 months ago
they are making all this up? what about the actual parent preferance. why can't a parent just look at a game and decide from there? it's their child not yours. o and this is addictive? ever heard of crack or marijuana? think lady. get with it.
LetsAGoPlaythroughs 3 months ago
i like your commentary. you could lead us in a revolution against them!!!
LetsAGoPlaythroughs 3 months ago
parents if that's what oyur listening to then don't listen.
LetsAGoPlaythroughs 3 months ago
what kind of an idiot are you? if anything, they inspire kids in a good way. i meant the blond hair women.
LetsAGoPlaythroughs 3 months ago
hay what do those guests know pull in some teens who play m games and then have them fight about it.
LetsAGoPlaythroughs 3 months ago
Not to mention the fact it is the parents responsibility on whether or not their child is playing video games. Games are rated for a reason and by ignoring that rating you are risking the chance of your child being opened up to gritty incidents and topics.
Anyone who cannot understand the content of video games is not to be repeated in real-life situations should not be playing video games in the first place.
Alan Titchmarsh: everyone's favourite politically correct arsehole.
jackheaney 3 months ago
First off Titchmarsh is lumping every single video game into one category and into one criticism. Not every game is full of sexism or violence.
Secondly video games have an undesired effect on those who are already sexist or violent. I played GTA for hours on end - did i ever want to go around nutting people in the street? Of course not. I realise it is a game and a game only - a cornered off world where extraordinary things happen. And that's all it is.
Alan Titchmarsh: a tosser.
jackheaney 3 months ago
@jackheaney who are most probably sexist or violent already*. Me and my friends obviously understand video games are for entertainment purpose and they do not have any bearing on our behaviour in the real world.
They are fun ways to pass the time. That's it - they aren't guidelines for social behaviour and if people are influenced by the content of Grand Theft Auto then the question marks should be pointed at them, not the game.
jackheaney 3 months ago
i really hope the world ends soon
EyEnOtgAy 3 months ago
you know whats full of hatered, violence,sexism,and racism THE WORLD THE GOVERMENT FOX NEWS
sniperLOLfluf 3 months ago
metal gear has more anti war setiment then the hurt locker, youre rewarded for NOT killing enemies.
jimmy134496 3 months ago
This debate angers me so much, Tim says things I repeatedly say and have for the past few years. Oi blind parents, look at the 18 symbol for once
allensfilms93 3 months ago
seriously.....wat the fuck is wrong with people? the closest thing IVE seen 2 sexism is how the armor fits the female toons....and if they knew anything they would c that ther ARE females that beat the shit out of ppl in games i mean look at samus (with the exception of other m)
enigmaendofline 3 months ago
I play Cod with my dad. LOL
MrNorway1212 4 months ago
oooh yyeeaa i play gta and cod, i feel like going outside and robbign a store oh and if the clerks a women ill rape her then brutaly murder her yea because i have no morals..........you cant judge games or gamers if you have not expirenced it yourself -_-
warmonster86 4 months ago
ok ok i get that people go insane over getting pissed at a video game but i apologize to god and to the people i hurt by prayer so no i'm not insane bout video games.
jerkoff71 4 months ago
As long as u can tell the difference between real life and fantasy, play whatever you want!
MrNorway1212 4 months ago
I really like the gamer guy he stands for everything i believe in about games
13narwhalsFTW 4 months ago 17
@13narwhalsFTW He debates very well, though he could hardly get a word in with those stupid fucks interrupting him whenever he gave a good point and that ignorant crowd that sided with the host.
ultimatekotorfan 3 months ago
@ultimatekotorfan They just wanted to hear themselves talk.He should have just pulled out a PSP and let them finish talking because he never got a word in.
URFTBOUND4LIFE 3 months ago
WHOO! I have a violent games and apparently I am now a violent person. We Gamers play Games for fun, I play gears of war and SIMS. So am I only going to be classified as a violent person on account of having a entertainment device that has violence?
rangerahboi 4 months ago
the interview is so one sided and all the facts against games are made up kudos to the guy sticking up for games
shane931000 4 months ago
what my mother said when i played games as a kid "at lest hes selling virtual crack then real crake" ahhh that alwesed made my lol
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This debate proves that gamers are perceived as being stupid no matter how intelligent they are actually being.
hicklespickle 5 months ago
wow they don't let him speak i hope they get punched in the face ass holes
kingdomheartsabc 5 months ago
Note to self: get on one of these debate shows about video games.
dunny993 5 months ago
Do you know where i can find the original?
hpsaucelovesyourmom 5 months ago
Oh, my god! These people in this video are a bunch of stupid fucking idiotic morons. These people as well as that other idiotic moron Jack Thompson need to stop blaming all the world's problems on video games and entire video industry as a whole. Video games aren't to blame violent crimals violent behavor, but a person bad and horrible upbring since their parents didn't raise their right by teaching them good moral and ethical values.
mrrose3085 5 months ago
Oh, my god! These people in this video are a bunch of stupid fucking idiotic morons. These people as well as that other idiotic moron Jack Thompson need to stop blaming all the world's problems on video games and entire video industry as a whole. Video games aren't to blame violent crimals violent behavor, but a person bad and horrible upbring since their parents didn't raise their right by teaching them good moral and ethical values by teaching the difference between what is right and wrong.
mrrose3085 5 months ago
Oh, my god! These people in this video are a bunch of stupid fucking idiotic morons. These people as well as that other idiotic moron Jack Thompson need to stop blaming all the world's problems on video games and entire video industry as a whole. Video games aren't to blame violent crimals violent behavor, but a person bad and horrible upbring since their parents didn't raise their right by teaching them good moral and ethical values by teaching the difference between what is right and wrong.
mrrose3085 5 months ago
This is so stupid, Alan & Julia can't even think of any constructive arguments to come back with, they just come back with nonsensical statements like, "You can't stop them from going into a house and putting a video on, you can stop them from going into a cinema", and "films aren't interactive, video games are".
The audience is just as uneducated and ill-informed as they are, for cheering for them. Then again, it might just be sound effects, instead of a real audience...
catholicgamer99 5 months ago
yes, and on borderlands we are rewarded for violence with a bunch of eridian weapons
theeviljester666 5 months ago
gta iv, doom1 and 2, left 4 dead 1 and 2 AC 1 2 brotherhood and revelations , these are all epic games, the parents are too lazy to check, im allowed every game on earth, nothing can stop us from gaming, its not the games that drive us mad, its assholes like Alan titchmarche and shows like panorama that are telling everyone a bunch of BULL
theeviljester666 5 months ago
THIS IS BULL
theeviljester666 5 months ago
difference in violence from the past and now? what about DOOM 1&2, Quake 1,2 & 3
wolfenstein 3d
nickONtheNET332 5 months ago
Fact: The act of playing video games cannot trigger the chemical reaction in the brain that causes true physical addiction. People need to stop talking about games as if they are crack cocaine, the wine that bitch drinks whilst writing her "erotic novels" is far more addictive than a video game could ever be.
LightspeedJack 5 months ago
COD 5:TEA PARTY (the Terrorist will attack the US with Tea) There is some sophistication for you XD
IAmJoedub 5 months ago 15
in hell.
Thank you LiamRproductions for showing me how ignorant most people are on the subject of violent video games and how they, "effect today's society." (no sarcasm)
DemonicV0IC3 6 months ago
These assholes are talking about shit they don't know. The one guy that actually PLAYS the games, whereas the other 3 idiots that don't, can't hardly get a word in because of their ignorant views on the subject matter.
I play shooter games, as does probably 90% of American teens, and the only aggression I have is towards the people I have never liked. And I do NOT suffer from depression you stupid bitch, nor do I suffer from low self esteem and I care very much about my friends and family. Burn
DemonicV0IC3 6 months ago
"Seeing violence doesn't trigger the killer, it makes him more creative"
SCREAM JUST TOLD YOU MORE THEN THAN YOU FUCKING KNOW ABOUT THE DIGITAL INDUSTRY... fail.
HRHippieRanger 6 months ago
Call of Duty 2 and street fighter IV xD
Bleumange 6 months ago
First: full metal alchemist music for the first minute. FTW! Second and back to subject, Alan and his group are stupid and of course video games do not promote these things
hbgrantland 6 months ago
And what I mean by this is that the female characters in the games are often complete stereotypes to appeal to this percieved male majority.
The attitudes online are also often stone age when it comes to female players.
Andyp12 6 months ago
As for promoting sexism and racism and hatred in general.
That is too much of a generalisation. The most racist influence in any game ive played were the players themselves on multiplayer games, but that has nothing to do with the games, just those individual's personalities.
Sexism I could see somewhat, let's be honest, even now the general population of gamers is majority male, so a lot of female characters are poor cliches, but also once again the players themselves perpetuate this too.
Andyp12 6 months ago
Even though I play quite a few games I can understand some of the viewpoints, let's be honest I know plenty of people who shouldn't be let near a video game due to both their tempers and general mental instability.
But the important thing is that if these are adults it is up to them and their choice to play, although I think more people ought to admit that too much video game playing can have adverse effects on people.
As for kids, it really is the parents responsibility.
Andyp12 6 months ago
God, this is just as bad as this assembly at my school. They hired a lady to talk BS about video games while we were subjected to it. Then later some students who wrote the school newspaper actually wrote an article stating how dumb that woman was and that they, along with the rest of the student population, wondered why are school would sink so low as to give us an assembly to waste our time and try to convince us that video games are bad.
DarklitZelda543 6 months ago
Tim Ingham actually hit all the points he was supposed to--no proven links, parental controls on all consoles, ratings, NOT ALL GAMES ARE FOR KIDS, and the comparison to violence in other media. He even hit on the "why" of violence in games.
I would have liked to have him demand for the name of that woman's "study", or the school it was from, or to demand who the other two idiots were and why they were qualified to speak, but overall, kudos to him.
senselocke 6 months ago
the guy from cvg later started the w.r.o.n.g campaign and actually managed to directly challenge the wright stuff and daily mail
Justice3d117 6 months ago
actually violent video games can be a form to relive stress. I actually think that kids that dont play video games and have a lot of stress in their life actually become violent and people who play video games are calmed down and not violent at all.
lilninja97 6 months ago
Agree with everything that you and the gamer guy said.
MoronGamer 6 months ago
It makes me so angry that the only person who was talking sense was the only person booed, it's as if there was a panel with a bunch of paedophiles talking about how raping children is okay and Mother Theresa telling everyone how they were wrong and immoral and people were booing Mother Theresa.
sorpaqq 6 months ago
violent games give the best entertainment
QualityGamerHD 6 months ago
Just gonna facepalm to the fact that the ONLY sensable one was constantly drowned and interrupted by utter stupidity...
NewZen41 6 months ago
What about pornography? Well you can't stop children from going into a home and putting that on. dumbass
tastyfreddytg12 6 months ago
Hey wait didn't movies and rock n roll get this bullshit when they started coming out...........hmmmm sensing a trend what new exciting trend can we use as a scapegoat now!
Ratnick21 6 months ago
Titchmarsh should just go back at what he's good at....Mowing lawns. Promotion of "racism, sexism and hatred"? Read the Koran it's all there in abundance. Consoles today all have parental lock features so parents can stop kids playing age restricted games. Most violent crimes are committed by ADULTS who don't play games so statistically you're less likely to commit violence by playing games and the ones who do have the IQ of a peanut and are unhinged in the first place.
nekropink 7 months ago
How do Video games promote sexism and racism? this has being in existance since the beginning of modern society. Those two problems have been WORSE before video gaming was even considered to be created.
hotwhire 7 months ago
Honestly, though, Liam, I don't care about government studies towards video games. The video game industry is huge & makes tons of money, so it would only make sense that the governments of the U.S. & U.K. would defend video games.
catholicgamer99 7 months ago
The main thing that I hate about this discussion is, they act like movies are acceptable, and video games somehow aren't, despite the fact that ALL of their complaints towards video games are common aspects of movies.
Julia just says, "Films aren't interactive, video games are." So what? Why is that a problem? ELABORATE.
catholicgamer99 7 months ago
@catholicgamer99 Good point and also movies are becoming more interactive with the use of 3D filming.
nekropink 7 months ago
@nekropink Yeah, and I can name a few racist/sexist movies:
Norbit (it's highly offensive towards Asians as well as fat people & Christians)
District 9 (as much as I love that film, it's a little offensive towards Nigerians)
The Express (almost all of the caucasians in that film were portrayed as ridiculously oppressive and racist)
However, I will admit that there are some really racist/sexist games out there (such as Duke Nukem Forever, for example).
catholicgamer99 7 months ago
That woman was a stupid cunt.
ltsaint911 7 months ago
I killed a grunt in Halo! I think I'll go on a bloody rampage through New York City! Retards... And ooohh they're addicted! Why don't they just call people who like playing football addicts too? God they condemn people who're having fun by playing videogames despite never actually trying it for themselves.
PublicToasty 7 months ago
Hey fucktards, see that little letter in the bottom of that game called "God of War" that says M? Thats called a rating, and unless you regularly expose your 8 year old to tits and extremley gory violence, i suggest you buy a wii and mario kart. Its called good parenting.
DahPurpleHippo 7 months ago 10
@DahPurpleHippo Or just try to find PS3/360 games with E-ratings (because they DO exist, take the Lego games, Little Big Planet, and ModNation Racers for example).
catholicgamer99 7 months ago
Julia Peasgood did a voiceover for Martian Gothic: Unification. Hypocrite?
TheGamanic 7 months ago in playlist opinion and stuff
I like how nobody other than the actually sane person mentions parents.
MusicTrackers 7 months ago
that poor guys there all complete assholes atacking him he is one bad ass for not puch her every time she used the addictioin and violence card
conker64rocks 7 months ago
If you only play GTA all the damn time, then maybe.
People need the sense that if you have enough will and brains that you never repeat video games in real life. The poeple who play GTA and do it in real life should be sent back to the depths of Early Childhood. :P
TheFunkyBones 7 months ago
That girl is stupid as fuck
MiniHazard 8 months ago
people who talk shit about violent video games prolly have never played them in their entire fuckin life
Kiyastand 8 months ago
Man I'm 14 and that old lady didn't know what the hell she was on about. I play games like manhunt 2, postal 2 and gta 4 and I'm not a violent person I haven't even got in to a fight before. God people like her make me angry.
TheGamerOfNewZealand 8 months ago
@TheGamerOfNewZealand same, and im fifteen and play a lot :/ People just don't even consider the other thoughts.
TheGreatestCoDShots 8 months ago
@TheGamerOfNewZealand *Gasps and sounds the alarms* You're angry that someone opposes what you like!? ADDICT! GET OFF YOUR CRACK/GAMES! In all seriousness though, I'm even younger than you and yet, even after playing MK 9, I don't think I can uppercut someone's head off. I don't know though, maybe I should try! ;P Heck, people around me don't even think I play video games because I'm so polite and nice. And when I tell them, they think I'm lying, until I show them. Two peas in a pod mate. :D
chidoriss 6 months ago
@chidoriss
lol
TheGamerOfNewZealand 6 months ago
Why would the guy defended video games go on such a bull shit show...and to some british people why is there so much bull shit shows like this on your television stations?
sulfuras24 8 months ago
@sulfuras24 You have Fox News. And the Today program which just caleld gamers over 30 weird. Keep thatin mind.
Veyneru 7 months ago
@Veyneru well......yeah fox news is BS. It's just anytime i see something slandering gaming it seems to come from the UK side on some random show where they guy just spews out random non accurate facts or makes a complete ass of himself
sulfuras24 7 months ago
Why would the Video Game go on such a bull shit show?
sulfuras24 8 months ago
People who oppose violent video games = Moronic, Lack of Information, know almost nothing about video games, aren't aware of the of the parental controls and ratings, and completely, utterly BIAS.
sonicboommaxed97 9 months ago
ahahahah "thats modern warefare 2 you twit" <why is that so funny when the british say it
JohnnyKvatch 9 months ago
What's the orchestral background music in the introduction of the video when you explain about the Alan Titmarsh show?
CrazyCheeseMagee 9 months ago
@CrazyCheeseMagee It's background music from the anime Full Metal Alchemist.
ultratog1028 9 months ago
...wow. I fail to understand how people can be so vehemently opposed things they don't even understand.
Roflcopter343 9 months ago
@Roflcopter343
People are scared of what they don't understand.
Israelpwn 9 months ago
Wait, he messed up the quote. I think what he meant to say was "The bible promotes racism. sexism, and hatred"
ZeldaFrEaK21354 9 months ago 20
@ZeldaFrEaK21354 i can tell you have read the bible (incase you didn't know i was being sarcastic)
Xealix98 5 months ago
@Xealix98 I have read it, thank you for noticing :')
If you truly are being sarcastic, however, then I can only be sad that you have never read it. It's a nice book, especially if you're looking for racism, sexism, and hatred!
ZeldaFrEaK21354 5 months ago
@ZeldaFrEaK21354 The Bible does not promote racism, sexism, or hatred, and neither do video games.
catholicgamer99 5 months ago
@catholicgamer99 You obviously haven't read the bible.
ZeldaFrEaK21354 5 months ago
@ZeldaFrEaK21354 You obviously haven't read the New Testament. You just looked at the bad parts of the Old Testament, and thought, "Oh no, this cannot be any good."
catholicgamer99 5 months ago
@ZeldaFrEaK21354 I think I understand why many people accuse the Bible of promoting hatred. The Bible clearly condemns behaviors that are considered socially acceptable in today's society (such as homosexuality, sex outside marriage, etc.), and sinners in the Old Testament were very harshly punished.
However, in the New Testaments, Jesus Christ teaches us to forgive our sinners and love our enemies. He sacrificed himself so that our sins could be forgiven.
catholicgamer99 4 months ago
@catholicgamer99 *New Testament*
catholicgamer99 4 months ago
@catholicgamer99 What a bundle of bollocks.
younggunsfan 4 months ago
@catholicgamer99 Ummmm ok but it STILL PROMOTES HATRED, SEXISM, AND VIOLENCE. And I love how you all say that shit "Oh you can't look at the old testament! It's from back then" ok, so why do you constantly quote it when referring to gays? Also, why do we even sell bibles with the old testament if you're not supposed to listen to it? The truth is, it's a disgusting book, and half the people who believe if haven't even read it. Unlike you, I actually have.
ZeldaFrEaK21354 3 months ago
@ZeldaFrEaK21354 at this point id also like to point out that the ten commandments were in the bible as well.
jimmy134496 3 months ago
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@catholicgamer99 absolute bullshit, we tell you guys time and time again and you act like you know.
jimmy134496 3 months ago
It's always the same story. Old people using pseudo science to demonize something they don't understand.
XtheUnknown13 9 months ago
This is like Daily Mail in the form of a TV show
ruideng111 9 months ago 5