"what fool would bring water to the sea, or a torch to burning troy"...anthony hopkins really made you feel the desperation and dispair of titus..love this movie, a great modern adaptation of a great play...beautiful cinematography...revenge is a dish best served cold...in regard to the sons
This is by far my favorite Shakespeare play. It is amazing to me that this is one of his earliest plays, and yet you can see the foundations of every single other play he wrote in it. Just a great piece...
My one irritation with this movie is how a lot of it is either overacted or underacted in a way not fitting to the desired emotional impact of the scene.
Titus seems surprisingly calm about his daughter's mutilation...
The problem with this scene is that it starts on an emotionally traumatic moment but then gets worse and worse. The actor can't just keep getting more angry and upset, eventually he needs to drop the tone down or he'll be left with nowhere to go. It's very difficult. Despite some of its thematic power and the ugly beauty of the language, "Titus Andronicus" is not Shakespeare's best play, and the excesses of this scene are a great example of why. I think Hopkins handles it as well as anyone can.
he can get more angry and upset - it's how Shakespeare wrote it,
this is the first time that we see Titus breaking down; he was a strong soilder and (since it is a tragedy) in the end he's lost everything - and THIS is the first monologue where we see Titus' character breaking down.
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I disagree, I think the scene goes on too long and tries to cram too much gruesome tragedy into too little space. At one point it almost becomes funny.
"Titus Andronicus" was Shakespeare's first real tragedy and on the whole it's way, way too busy for it's own good (just look at the trainwreck that is the first act; every single named character is on stage at the same time in a single, sprawling scene, and God help the audience trying to figure out who is who or who is even important).
But it's a very poorly structured scene. Find one other play where the entire principle cast of roughly a dozen characters is crammed onstage all at the same time in opening, with extras to boot.
The audience is barraged with exposition and it's not immediately obvious what characters you're supposed to pay attention to. It may seem, for example, that Titus' sons are going to be a critical focus, but in fact they're incidental and will be dead in short order. IMHO, it's just not a good play.
Honestly though, what do people see in this play? Everyone wants to poke holes in my criticisms, but I haven't yet heard anyone put forth a convincing case for the quality of the play itself.
I enjoy the characters, the dialogue, and the gratuitousness of one of shakespeare's earliest plays. It's got some great passages. It also helps that Anthony Hopkins and Julie Taymor pretty much squeezed most of the potential of this play out in the film. But there have been some great theatrical productions as well.
I agree there's some good material in this play, and I generally like this scene in particular. And yes, Taymor extracted a much better show, both onstage and in this film, from the script than I would have thought possible.
Even though it's going through something of a revival today, thanks in no small part to Taymor, I still subscribe to the traditional view that the play is a bit crudely crafted, overreaching, and not very well organized. It's better than its reputation, but only just.
@endersgame55 Titus' caged sons being carted off to their deaths with the throng of tribunes and extras are indeed a crucial focus for this scene. Their bodies quickly fade into the distance for a very specific/intentional reason: to show (or expose) that the father's anguish at seeing the brutal swiftness with which his beloved sons are taken from him is the same suffering of the vanquished queen whose son he had earlier dismembered without a thought of mercy. Taste of his own medicine.
Titus begins to internalize his sorrow and grief, and turns to the same villainy and psychological subterfuge that motivates another character in the play - Aaron. Yet one is a hero, and the other an antagonist...
brilliant, and i adore the soundtrack personall aswell check out Elliot Goldenthal, Julie Taymors husband! :) Yes very awesome scene and apparently they are both working on an adaptation of The Tempest. :)
@Atrahasis7 It IS one of his worst - it's always been considered ludicrous because it was so violent. The movie's a bit overdone, the only thing I ever liked about it was Hopkins.
@tommyt1971 Since when has Shakespeare shyed away from graphic violence? King Lear and Macbeth have moments of violence on par with what is done in Titus. And the violence in Titus is far from gratuitous but rather a brilliant expression of chararacter
I don't know how he holds his body so still while his hands and face are in such an agony of expression. Gah! This is so good, it makes me want to punch somebody.
This is one of the greatest movies to watch again and again... and PLEASE watch it on a good TV or HD... the colors and details are important and there are a ton of bonus features just about the colors.
yes but why is he so devastated over losing these 2 sons when he lost, what, 21? 24? at the start of the movie? my husband says it's because they were lost in war, while these were lost as a result of his error. good theory.
Mine sight of sacred sea our sinful flesh jailing it in time, that time that brings demise even hastier then dawn might. Though, nay! Demise to flesh it might, doubt not thou love! - - Reason! - Thine heart, love shall never as mere be rot...
by me
Anthony Hopkins is the actor from the unreal heavens.
Julie Taymor is a creative genius. She wisely picked the location of every scene though out her movie. In this scene, I am guessing the crossroads symbolize Titus' confusion with his life...
could you possibly upload anything with Tamora in it? I've got a monologue to audition with this january and I haven't been able to find the movie anywhere...
The amazing thing is, he said he hates doing Shakespeare! He said he'd rather be James Dean than Laurence Ollivier. Let this be a lesson to all actors- sometimes you don't know what you're good at.
i looked everywhere for the additional DVD that has the interviews and the making but all in vain. Do u have that by any chance? I might get some useful insights on the play through it, since my graduation project's primary text is this very play. Under the topic of: violence and representation.
Thanks for the clip!! id say my favourite scene is Lavinia's Torture, quite intense aswell but brilliantly captured.
my favorite moment in Shakespeare
TheSethIkrass 1 week ago
This scene brought me to tears.
Anthony Hopkins is a god among men.
DrStrangefate 2 weeks ago
Why Marcus so she is...
Drac39 4 months ago
I know a lot of pretentious Shakespeare scholars hate Titus Andronicus but some of the stuff here matches Hamlet IMHO
Drac39 7 months ago in playlist Titus Andronicus
That part starting at 2:34 always gives me gooseflesh.
drumrnva 1 year ago
"what fool would bring water to the sea, or a torch to burning troy"...anthony hopkins really made you feel the desperation and dispair of titus..love this movie, a great modern adaptation of a great play...beautiful cinematography...revenge is a dish best served cold...in regard to the sons
WorldWatcher9 1 year ago
but when is taymor's tempest going to come out?!
madfoot 1 year ago
Who would win in a fight: Aaron or Iago?
malbecks316 2 years ago
a draw
mcgiver02 2 years ago
gotta love shakespeare :)
damn good monolouge.
knocho2 2 years ago 6
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That's Titus' punishment for preferring the State over his own family.
loggeronline 2 years ago
Excellent actor, Sir Anthony Hopkins!
loggeronline 2 years ago
very underrated by puritan ,,,,,well...well,,,, .weenies if i may be thus indelicate
lsdmadman 2 years ago
Those who built their career on wars, even for their countries, take note on Titus. For all his discipline and patriotism - betrayals.
weirdoweirdo 2 years ago
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loggeronline 2 years ago
This is by far my favorite Shakespeare play. It is amazing to me that this is one of his earliest plays, and yet you can see the foundations of every single other play he wrote in it. Just a great piece...
KaytieK0687 2 years ago
Very enjoyable and soothing if we accept it for what is supposed tobe.I think its a lovely portrayal.Thanks for posting.
GIenmed 3 years ago
My one irritation with this movie is how a lot of it is either overacted or underacted in a way not fitting to the desired emotional impact of the scene.
Titus seems surprisingly calm about his daughter's mutilation...
Shadowthrone08 3 years ago
I have to disagree really, the calmness and language resonates with emotions that he's not showing.
JPearson1987 3 years ago
The problem with this scene is that it starts on an emotionally traumatic moment but then gets worse and worse. The actor can't just keep getting more angry and upset, eventually he needs to drop the tone down or he'll be left with nowhere to go. It's very difficult. Despite some of its thematic power and the ugly beauty of the language, "Titus Andronicus" is not Shakespeare's best play, and the excesses of this scene are a great example of why. I think Hopkins handles it as well as anyone can.
Decepticonx7 2 years ago
there is no problem with the scene.
he can get more angry and upset - it's how Shakespeare wrote it,
this is the first time that we see Titus breaking down; he was a strong soilder and (since it is a tragedy) in the end he's lost everything - and THIS is the first monologue where we see Titus' character breaking down.
knocho2 2 years ago
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I disagree, I think the scene goes on too long and tries to cram too much gruesome tragedy into too little space. At one point it almost becomes funny.
"Titus Andronicus" was Shakespeare's first real tragedy and on the whole it's way, way too busy for it's own good (just look at the trainwreck that is the first act; every single named character is on stage at the same time in a single, sprawling scene, and God help the audience trying to figure out who is who or who is even important).
Decepticonx7 2 years ago
You'd have to be an idiot not to understand what's going on.
TheLimperTBC 1 year ago
But it's a very poorly structured scene. Find one other play where the entire principle cast of roughly a dozen characters is crammed onstage all at the same time in opening, with extras to boot.
The audience is barraged with exposition and it's not immediately obvious what characters you're supposed to pay attention to. It may seem, for example, that Titus' sons are going to be a critical focus, but in fact they're incidental and will be dead in short order. IMHO, it's just not a good play.
endersgame55 1 year ago
With a name like enders game I dont think you can really criticize any literary work.
TheLimperTBC 1 year ago
Now, now, play nice. :P
Honestly though, what do people see in this play? Everyone wants to poke holes in my criticisms, but I haven't yet heard anyone put forth a convincing case for the quality of the play itself.
endersgame55 1 year ago
I enjoy the characters, the dialogue, and the gratuitousness of one of shakespeare's earliest plays. It's got some great passages. It also helps that Anthony Hopkins and Julie Taymor pretty much squeezed most of the potential of this play out in the film. But there have been some great theatrical productions as well.
TheLimperTBC 1 year ago
I agree there's some good material in this play, and I generally like this scene in particular. And yes, Taymor extracted a much better show, both onstage and in this film, from the script than I would have thought possible.
Even though it's going through something of a revival today, thanks in no small part to Taymor, I still subscribe to the traditional view that the play is a bit crudely crafted, overreaching, and not very well organized. It's better than its reputation, but only just.
endersgame55 1 year ago
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BrucknerMotet 1 year ago
@endersgame55 Titus' caged sons being carted off to their deaths with the throng of tribunes and extras are indeed a crucial focus for this scene. Their bodies quickly fade into the distance for a very specific/intentional reason: to show (or expose) that the father's anguish at seeing the brutal swiftness with which his beloved sons are taken from him is the same suffering of the vanquished queen whose son he had earlier dismembered without a thought of mercy. Taste of his own medicine.
BrucknerMotet 1 year ago
Wrong.
Titus begins to internalize his sorrow and grief, and turns to the same villainy and psychological subterfuge that motivates another character in the play - Aaron. Yet one is a hero, and the other an antagonist...
MaroonMediadotcom 2 years ago
brilliant, and i adore the soundtrack personall aswell check out Elliot Goldenthal, Julie Taymors husband! :) Yes very awesome scene and apparently they are both working on an adaptation of The Tempest. :)
terrasidius 3 years ago
An adaptation of the Tempest? Nice, that should be good. :)
Shadowthrone08 3 years ago
7:21... my favorite shot of the entire film
larshoneytoast1 3 years ago
delicious ;)
Voyenko 3 years ago
Very powerful scene. This is my favourite Shakespeare play.
ADZ01982 3 years ago 2
I love this movie. this is supposed to be one of the worst shakespeare plays...yeah right ,people weren't simply ready for so much bloodshed
Atrahasis7 3 years ago 5
@Atrahasis7 It IS one of his worst - it's always been considered ludicrous because it was so violent. The movie's a bit overdone, the only thing I ever liked about it was Hopkins.
tommyt1971 1 year ago
@tommyt1971 Since when has Shakespeare shyed away from graphic violence? King Lear and Macbeth have moments of violence on par with what is done in Titus. And the violence in Titus is far from gratuitous but rather a brilliant expression of chararacter
Drac39 6 months ago
I don't know how he holds his body so still while his hands and face are in such an agony of expression. Gah! This is so good, it makes me want to punch somebody.
madfoot 3 years ago 9
I know exactly how you feel.
shnazztastic 3 years ago
@madfoot HA HA! Best review ever! You rule! LOL!!!!
MrKeroscene 1 year ago
@madfoot yeah thats it im' punchin somebody
SomethingSchneider 1 year ago
@madfoot you've got it man.
jaymeeharkeen 1 year ago
This is one of the greatest movies to watch again and again... and PLEASE watch it on a good TV or HD... the colors and details are important and there are a ton of bonus features just about the colors.
ComedyJesus 3 years ago
omg, T_T
I beg of u could'nt you post the whole movie kind sir, pleeeeaaase!!!
WarriorTrtle 3 years ago
I would but the movie is protected and the program that I used to rip this clip, I lost.
I'll try my best to fix that problem very soon.
shnazztastic 3 years ago
the movie seared the play into my (albeit fritobandito) soaring consciousness, i thank the both good and great gods.........
lsdmadman 3 years ago
he echoes Tamora's earlier words: be pitiful to my son(S)...overblown at times but this movie seared titus into my beleaugered soul
lsdmadman 3 years ago
yes but why is he so devastated over losing these 2 sons when he lost, what, 21? 24? at the start of the movie? my husband says it's because they were lost in war, while these were lost as a result of his error. good theory.
madfoot 3 years ago 2
For two and twenty sons I never wept,
Because they died in honour's lofty bed.
Or that these 2 sons died without honour. Still your interpretation would make sense.
JPearson1987 3 years ago 3
oh, touche. note to self: reread play before going off on theoretical tangents.
madfoot 3 years ago 2
exactly the others were lost 'nobly' fighting for rome's glory...the last two (his last two barring lucius) were from satty's battiness
lsdmadman 3 years ago
which was really titus' fault, since he put that little douchebag in power.
madfoot 3 years ago 2
which is why Shakespeare was so brilliant with tragedy.
dwilson82 3 years ago
Love how he doesn't rage after he sees his daughter, yet still sounds so emotional.
JPearson1987 3 years ago 2
yes, he's like the anti-al pacino. instead of chewing up the scenery, he quietly destroys it with a glare.
madfoot 3 years ago
Mine sight of sacred sea our sinful flesh jailing it in time, that time that brings demise even hastier then dawn might. Though, nay! Demise to flesh it might, doubt not thou love! - - Reason! - Thine heart, love shall never as mere be rot...
by me
Anthony Hopkins is the actor from the unreal heavens.
BogdanGMarin 3 years ago
One of the best monologues of all time.
AnyaAngie 3 years ago
Julie Taymor is a creative genius. She wisely picked the location of every scene though out her movie. In this scene, I am guessing the crossroads symbolize Titus' confusion with his life...
ayoub287 4 years ago
One thing I don't understand: what's with the angels????
then again, all I've seen of the movie is what's on youtube. Library hath it not.
agreatguy6 4 years ago
The angel represents that they are pure, they have not wronged. As that lamb there suggests it too.
BogdanGMarin 3 years ago
Sir Anthony Hopkins is the greatest actor int he universe!
Put up some scenes with Alan Cumming, please?
CamdenBloke 4 years ago
I second this :) he's a great actor AND bizarrely cute xD
agreatguy6 4 years ago
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verytemporaryname 3 years ago
thanks for putting this video up! good stuff!
could you possibly upload anything with Tamora in it? I've got a monologue to audition with this january and I haven't been able to find the movie anywhere...
pennyacer 4 years ago
Oh!They have my CURSE!!..They totally deserve it!!!!!.......
lilalo15 4 years ago
aww, i hate that the two brothers die cause one of them is really cute, o and i had to watch this movie in english, its pretty good.....
utyor 4 years ago
This has to be one of his best performances, not only hopkins but all the cast did a fantastic job in this adapation.
But this scene shows Hopkins vast degree of emotion and energy he can put into is roles.
remillers 4 years ago 2
The amazing thing is, he said he hates doing Shakespeare! He said he'd rather be James Dean than Laurence Ollivier. Let this be a lesson to all actors- sometimes you don't know what you're good at.
Prycik 3 years ago
post the dinner scene where lucius goes matrix on saturnine's ass
mreldude 4 years ago
hey can you upload the intro... with all the soldiers returning... that coreography is awesome... can you upload that?
wielerj 4 years ago
a true masterpiece this film is!!
i looked everywhere for the additional DVD that has the interviews and the making but all in vain. Do u have that by any chance? I might get some useful insights on the play through it, since my graduation project's primary text is this very play. Under the topic of: violence and representation.
Thanks for the clip!! id say my favourite scene is Lavinia's Torture, quite intense aswell but brilliantly captured.
OasisGurl83 4 years ago
NICE!!!!
but why'd you cut it at the end!!! The best part is when he plots revenge!
joeeeey 4 years ago
I cut it because that was the end of that scene.
I can upload the rest. Check back in a couple of days.
shnazztastic 4 years ago
I love this movie, could you upload the whole thing? Puhlease, I'll give you a cookie :D
StrawberryLove1587 4 years ago
My favorite still has to be the last scene, anyway, although bizarre I think this was a great movie
al122385 4 years ago
The last scene is pretty intense.
Its a fantastic movie.
shnazztastic 4 years ago
COWS
MemoirsofJ 4 years ago
Are tasty.
shnazztastic 4 years ago