Hello All u frustrated Americans....its so soothing to hear u all r suffering...U know why all ur jobs are being outsourced point number 1. you people hav no work ethics..2.You want to be paid for doing nothing...now dat others are doing better dan America...U all cant bear it anymore and someone said Indian n Chinese shit in a hole in da ground..well dat idiot shud visit these countries now and take a look around. You couch potatoes dont deserve a JOB.
The vast majority of high-tech innovation in the US is publicly funded from the Dept. of Defense to the university system. Private corporations like Microsoft and Goolge tap into public breakthroughs and profit from them directly. Then they repay the American tax payers by outsourcing and off-shoring white collar jobs. The biggest lie they tell is that they need to do this in order to be competitive when in fact they are dependent on our tax dollars. Why do we put up with this?
Ultimately, outsourcing will turn out not to be a bargain and a huge mistake in terms of loss of quality. Workers in every country must fight to protect their tribe.
Awesome - it would be so cool if Inflation hits India and china. Eventually, the disparity between rich and poor will be obvious so that China will have a new Communist Revolution when the people uprise. India risks the same.
Montana programmers would get Indian-written pieces of POINTS. If they found a problem, which is common in complex computer systems, getting it fixed — or simply communicating the problem to the person who actually wrote the code — took several cumbersome steps and usually several days.
outsourcing puts american and european workers in direct competition with people who are shitting in a hole in the ground.This is economically unviable and unsustainable.
The End result of this whole Race to the Bottom = SLAVERY.
In a few years we'll be able to buy and sell our slaves (cheapest labor force) to do our work again, unless Obama tries to stop capitalism in its tracks.
Why do you outsource Cheap call center jobs and BPO jobs to India keep them in US..our youngsters dn;t want US comps in India and undergo sadism...and boredom in life...
The GOP Wal-Mart economic model is good for short term gains but its a house of cards, labor is and has always been the base of economic growth. Now that Obama is closing the tax loop holes, off shore tax havens and putting the one payer health care option in place American workers union and non union will have a chance to compete on a not so tilted playing field. The next change we need is fair trade.
A person with No graduation who gets a job in Gulf countries get around 750$ for a job like Shop assistant, Office boy etc.And can save around 350$ if he is willing to save.
Advantages here : No need to work 6days a week, No NightJob . No sweatshops, No abuse of manpower for such a low paid job.
Theme of this story.
30 experienced , Qualified Indian workers 150$ < 1 US worker 4000$.
I never work for a BPO/Call center anymore .those who work there for such a low paid job are LOOSERS.
The jerk-offs that are sending our jobs overseas will be out of business real soon. They went to far and destroyed their best markets. The only thing that's left is a bunch of jobless broke Americans with maxed out credit cards that can't even afford to buy their cheep Chinese products anymore. Take a look at profits for the fortune 500. They've never seen things this bad before. And after China burns through their stimulus money their jobs will be flushed down the toilet bowl to. Fucking morons
How to save the economy stop buying crap from China, the quality of American made products surpasses any product made in any other country all over the world ,except cars, some people likes to get rich fast and furious, now we own a piece of the cake lets all demand quality from the domestic car makers.
I want my Camaro what you guys waiting for I will sell my wife on ebay to get that car.
The free market (or as I see it the free to go one way market) is killing the golden goose for short term gains; our economy is built on a house of cards. Its not working and it is falling apart, wake up people we lost 1.2 million jobs just in 2008 and 16 million since 2000, union and non union. How do you replace those jobs?
US govt only gives work/student visas and send jobs to India..why dont you stop crap and leave us in piece...PLEASE we don't need cheap Callcenter/Bpo jobs our youngsters need better career than this..you can't contain them with visas/outsourcing...
Montana programmers would get Indian-written pieces of POINTS. If they found a problem, which is common in complex computer systems, getting it fixed — or simply communicating the problem to the person who actually wrote the code — took several cumbersome steps and usually several days.
The U.S. is not legally required to issue or extend a single H-1B visa. The USCIS states that H-1B visas are a 3 year visa (total stay limited to 6 years) for temporary, nonimmigrant workers. These workers are to fill specialty positions when this talent cannot be secured from the local labor pool. Employers are not required to advertise the positions and are given a legal means to discriminate against U.S. workers. Right now, we should not issue and not renew another H-1B visa.
solution to all economic crisis are population control, renewable energy and the continous circulation of money, ensuring poor people to
become productive to expand the capitalist market, power of spending equals increasing production all over the glove, trying to sell the same crap to an already saturated market is ridiculous, example buy a car,pay loan,taxes,insurance,mechanics,service,parts and many other things,
The long term viability of all middle class jobs union and non-union are in danger. We as middle class workers need to organize in some way. We need to have some push back for the downward pressure the ultra rich power base is putting on the workers. We need a organize work force so we have some political power to turn back the one sided trade policies. We have no chance in hell to be completive with Chinese workers that make $35 a month on average.
let's talk about trade,what can we offer to the world? everything is made in china india,vietnam,corea and mexico,can we trade desert dust, golf courses or prostitutes, that's the only thing left in the country, pretty soon the soldiers are comming back and is there a job oppening at walmart or home depot?
minerals gone,factories gone,standing armies no money, the minute the federal reserve closes it's door and refuses to lend more money to the gov we will eat each other,end up like Argentina
everyone is saying restore credit so debt can flow but due to outsourcing who can afford the debt why do u think so many people are foreclosing because the manage to keep there head above the water but after u loose your job u sink u wanna fix outsourcing then make these greedy pigs pay the same wages that they would have to pay in the us i have seen in my short life the wages decline so much pretty soon we will all be working 3 jobs its called a service economy
Oh not another damn British banker telling America shipping jobs to the turd world is good for us. Don't kyou know it's these lousy brit bankers who are behind this whole economic mess. The USA's economy in 90's because too powerful and we had a SURPLUS. A Surplus means no need for debt. No need for debt means the brit bankers are OUT OF BUSINESS. So they have to try to siphon some of America's jobs offshore in order to prevent another 90's boom. You don't fool us brits.
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
By far the worst customer experience I have ever had involved calling a support desk in India for a product that I purchased in the U.S...If you outsource and depend on customer satisfaction for your long-term success, then stay clear of outsourcing.. let them go back to herding goats
When you buy from Chinamart whoops Walmart you are outsourcing jobs. Big business in the United States has been greedy and selfish boosting their profit ratio on the backs of the middle class. This has been short sighted though because eventually who will buy their products. The economic engine of the USA has been based on a strong middle class. What we have seen over the last 8 years is a steady flow of work over seas and the cash flow to the upper 5% of the population in this country.
Outsourcing is the primary cause for the mess we're in. Slavery shouldn't be part of the competition. But managers don't care for the wealth and freedom of the people. It's time to get rid of those greedy assholes.
NEW YORK: Software major Satyam Computer Services has reportedly been banned from doing any off-shore work with the World Bank after forensic experts and bank investigators discovered that spy software was covertly installed on workstations inside the bank's Washington headquarters, allegedly by one or more contractors from Satyam Computer Services.
Wouldn't it just be easier to enslave workers to work for you in the U.S. and U.K.? Nothing can beat the competition of a workforce of slaves. Think all your products will be ALOT cheaper than Wal-Mart, isn't that what everyone wants?
You don't find a huge store in Europe like Walmart where everything is made in Asia. Its only America that rapes its workers. When Toyota was exploding here in the USA in the 80's you didn't see that in Europe.
America is a third rate country that doesn't care about its workforce. We need to organize and protest like people that know what its like to lose their freedom.
Well the outsourcing story has changed even in the last 12 months with Indian companies like Infosys now outsourcing back to Europe and America tasks which they cannot do so easily and well in India right now - in particular senior management tasks. Patrick Dixon
They can't do it because they're not smart! If they were, they would've been able to create an economy on their own instead of trying to steal everyone else's!
We are one global village and as soviet union found you can if you wish reject market forces and subsidise inneficient organisations to protect jobs at home. History shows us that this usually results in lower standards of living and lower economic growth. Patrick Dixon
You cannot compare the two. Read Lou Dobbs book "Exporting America". It will tell you everything, America is importing everything and producing nothing. The dollar is falling. The EU nations have high duties and are protectionist. Explain that. Look at the trade deficit. Manfucturing GONE. the only reason we still have and auto industry was becuase Reagan "protected jobs" by forcing to Japanese to build factories HERE buy erecting HUGE tarriffs. You are not looking at both sides of the story.
The waning strength of the US dollar is not because of outsourcing, but because of a government that just prints off money, thus faith is lost in the currency and the purchasing power of the US dollar decreases. Look up almost any economics text book and it will lean in favor of "outsourcing" or free trade. Subsidising a failing business is poor economics and that ultimately leads to a less efficient economy in which the consumer loses.
Some things are important to outsource like making toothpaste caps and when you have 24/7 call centers but the USA is outsourcing EVERYTHING now. Even all the "high tech" manufacturing is gone. Look at your i-pod or PC - MADE IN CHINA. It is all about money. Thats it. The government must step in and STOP THIS.
@LeftLiberalSoCal: The beauty of outsourcing is that it works in two ways. Some countries should keep making toothpaste caps just like the US is the #1 in toilet paper exportation.
outsource began in the 90s right or was it late 80s? anyways, wat other reasons are there for outsourcing/offshoring other than wage cost advantage? company expansion i know is one possible reason but are there any other major reasons for outsourcing?
Can also be speed of response if for example a team in India is able to work during the night when a European bank team is asleep and customers are not needing help. Patrick
Is it possible to outsource idiotic consultantcy?
Nyquistic 6 months ago
Forget the war on terror! Time for a war on outsourcing! Think about all that money!!,!,
johnnnyboi123 11 months ago
Outsource the politicians jobs too.
AmericanMale1953 1 year ago
Hello All u frustrated Americans....its so soothing to hear u all r suffering...U know why all ur jobs are being outsourced point number 1. you people hav no work ethics..2.You want to be paid for doing nothing...now dat others are doing better dan America...U all cant bear it anymore and someone said Indian n Chinese shit in a hole in da ground..well dat idiot shud visit these countries now and take a look around. You couch potatoes dont deserve a JOB.
alzobaiditarique 1 year ago
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@alzobaiditarique Illiterates like you don't deserve a life, go crawl back into your dirt hole.
AmericanMale1953 1 year ago
Elect Don Cordell For President.
v44forme1 1 year ago
The vast majority of high-tech innovation in the US is publicly funded from the Dept. of Defense to the university system. Private corporations like Microsoft and Goolge tap into public breakthroughs and profit from them directly. Then they repay the American tax payers by outsourcing and off-shoring white collar jobs. The biggest lie they tell is that they need to do this in order to be competitive when in fact they are dependent on our tax dollars. Why do we put up with this?
brokencountry123 1 year ago
We should ship jobs to Mexico instead of China. That should keep illegal immigration under control.
ultimateplayar33 1 year ago
@ultimateplayar33: Illegal immigrants in Afghanistan? Iraq? Lybia? Now, Mexico is news to me...
strattfordcrass 8 months ago
Ultimately, outsourcing will turn out not to be a bargain and a huge mistake in terms of loss of quality. Workers in every country must fight to protect their tribe.
SteveHovland 2 years ago
Awesome - it would be so cool if Inflation hits India and china. Eventually, the disparity between rich and poor will be obvious so that China will have a new Communist Revolution when the people uprise. India risks the same.
WeAreFrakked 2 years ago
pretty good analysis.
oateurman 2 years ago
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Montana programmers would get Indian-written pieces of POINTS. If they found a problem, which is common in complex computer systems, getting it fixed — or simply communicating the problem to the person who actually wrote the code — took several cumbersome steps and usually several days.
AmericanMale1953 2 years ago
outsourcing puts american and european workers in direct competition with people who are shitting in a hole in the ground.This is economically unviable and unsustainable.
rw5791 2 years ago
@rw5791: Yes, specially when even in this case, American and European are losing....
strattfordcrass 8 months ago
fuck communists! you never lived in communism. you are champagne communists!
tanobaron 2 years ago
The End result of this whole Race to the Bottom = SLAVERY.
In a few years we'll be able to buy and sell our slaves (cheapest labor force) to do our work again, unless Obama tries to stop capitalism in its tracks.
plutocratarianism 2 years ago
Why do you outsource Cheap call center jobs and BPO jobs to India keep them in US..our youngsters dn;t want US comps in India and undergo sadism...and boredom in life...
mrquea 2 years ago 3
contd.#3
workers get hike only if they are promoted.
My company did not give give hike for the reason of Inflation. even though its high.
Then who is eating up the money.
1. High and middle lever Management guys
2. Company .
3. Infrastructure (crazy Real estate prices)
If the West is getting any benefit take these work Back,cause we are not getting any substantial benefit.
Note: companies like HP, MSGTS, IBM are growing BIG time india ,even after these issues you told about India
Why?
ranjithm1985 2 years ago
2 words (Global meltdown)
The GOP Wal-Mart economic model is good for short term gains but its a house of cards, labor is and has always been the base of economic growth. Now that Obama is closing the tax loop holes, off shore tax havens and putting the one payer health care option in place American workers union and non union will have a chance to compete on a not so tilted playing field. The next change we need is fair trade.
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago
A person with No graduation who gets a job in Gulf countries get around 750$ for a job like Shop assistant, Office boy etc.And can save around 350$ if he is willing to save.
Advantages here : No need to work 6days a week, No NightJob . No sweatshops, No abuse of manpower for such a low paid job.
Theme of this story.
30 experienced , Qualified Indian workers 150$ < 1 US worker 4000$.
I never work for a BPO/Call center anymore .those who work there for such a low paid job are LOOSERS.
ranjithm1985 2 years ago
Hello Dr Patrick Dixon. in my opinion this happens when you did not do enough research.
I worked for a company as Techie , 9+ hrs a day, 6 days a week , in Night shifts. for 18
months.I am a IT graduate
The company i worked for one of the TOP 5 companies in the world.
I was paid 120$ PM + incentives around 30$
ranjithm1985 2 years ago
The jerk-offs that are sending our jobs overseas will be out of business real soon. They went to far and destroyed their best markets. The only thing that's left is a bunch of jobless broke Americans with maxed out credit cards that can't even afford to buy their cheep Chinese products anymore. Take a look at profits for the fortune 500. They've never seen things this bad before. And after China burns through their stimulus money their jobs will be flushed down the toilet bowl to. Fucking morons
HemiHead66 2 years ago 8
How to save the economy stop buying crap from China, the quality of American made products surpasses any product made in any other country all over the world ,except cars, some people likes to get rich fast and furious, now we own a piece of the cake lets all demand quality from the domestic car makers.
I want my Camaro what you guys waiting for I will sell my wife on ebay to get that car.
robertdjwizard 2 years ago
How are you as an individual going to turn back the assault on the working middle class?
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago
The free market (or as I see it the free to go one way market) is killing the golden goose for short term gains; our economy is built on a house of cards. Its not working and it is falling apart, wake up people we lost 1.2 million jobs just in 2008 and 16 million since 2000, union and non union. How do you replace those jobs?
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago
US govt only gives work/student visas and send jobs to India..why dont you stop crap and leave us in piece...PLEASE we don't need cheap Callcenter/Bpo jobs our youngsters need better career than this..you can't contain them with visas/outsourcing...
mrquea 2 years ago 2
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Montana programmers would get Indian-written pieces of POINTS. If they found a problem, which is common in complex computer systems, getting it fixed — or simply communicating the problem to the person who actually wrote the code — took several cumbersome steps and usually several days.
AmericanMale1953 2 years ago
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The U.S. is not legally required to issue or extend a single H-1B visa. The USCIS states that H-1B visas are a 3 year visa (total stay limited to 6 years) for temporary, nonimmigrant workers. These workers are to fill specialty positions when this talent cannot be secured from the local labor pool. Employers are not required to advertise the positions and are given a legal means to discriminate against U.S. workers. Right now, we should not issue and not renew another H-1B visa.
prudently4u 2 years ago
solution to all economic crisis are population control, renewable energy and the continous circulation of money, ensuring poor people to
become productive to expand the capitalist market, power of spending equals increasing production all over the glove, trying to sell the same crap to an already saturated market is ridiculous, example buy a car,pay loan,taxes,insurance,mechanics,service,parts and many other things,
It's that what you people go to school for?
we're doom.
robertdjwizard 2 years ago
The long term viability of all middle class jobs union and non-union are in danger. We as middle class workers need to organize in some way. We need to have some push back for the downward pressure the ultra rich power base is putting on the workers. We need a organize work force so we have some political power to turn back the one sided trade policies. We have no chance in hell to be completive with Chinese workers that make $35 a month on average.
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago
let's talk about trade,what can we offer to the world? everything is made in china india,vietnam,corea and mexico,can we trade desert dust, golf courses or prostitutes, that's the only thing left in the country, pretty soon the soldiers are comming back and is there a job oppening at walmart or home depot?
minerals gone,factories gone,standing armies no money, the minute the federal reserve closes it's door and refuses to lend more money to the gov we will eat each other,end up like Argentina
robertdjwizard 2 years ago
lol its "Korea"
joejacob1230 2 years ago
everyone is saying restore credit so debt can flow but due to outsourcing who can afford the debt why do u think so many people are foreclosing because the manage to keep there head above the water but after u loose your job u sink u wanna fix outsourcing then make these greedy pigs pay the same wages that they would have to pay in the us i have seen in my short life the wages decline so much pretty soon we will all be working 3 jobs its called a service economy
standingup4all 2 years ago
Oh not another damn British banker telling America shipping jobs to the turd world is good for us. Don't kyou know it's these lousy brit bankers who are behind this whole economic mess. The USA's economy in 90's because too powerful and we had a SURPLUS. A Surplus means no need for debt. No need for debt means the brit bankers are OUT OF BUSINESS. So they have to try to siphon some of America's jobs offshore in order to prevent another 90's boom. You don't fool us brits.
indiasucksalways 2 years ago
I am a totally superior caste and utterly vegetarian Hindu who does not even eat Ginger Garlic and I am smart because of that.
I am the smartest software tester and my wife is also on H4B and she is also working with a consultant.
WATCHak 2 years ago
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"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
RonRepublican 2 years ago
By far the worst customer experience I have ever had involved calling a support desk in India for a product that I purchased in the U.S...If you outsource and depend on customer satisfaction for your long-term success, then stay clear of outsourcing.. let them go back to herding goats
robw1031 3 years ago
and u to ghettos, eating burgers and sniffing drugs!
seesaw128 2 years ago
When you buy from Chinamart whoops Walmart you are outsourcing jobs. Big business in the United States has been greedy and selfish boosting their profit ratio on the backs of the middle class. This has been short sighted though because eventually who will buy their products. The economic engine of the USA has been based on a strong middle class. What we have seen over the last 8 years is a steady flow of work over seas and the cash flow to the upper 5% of the population in this country.
kermitefrog64 3 years ago
Importing goods and exporting jobs is not the same..
When someone imports goods to America they pay tariffs and also provide lower priced goods. A win win situation..
When you export jobs no taxes or tariffs are collected and jobs are lost a lose lose situation.
robw1031 3 years ago
Outsourcing is the primary cause for the mess we're in. Slavery shouldn't be part of the competition. But managers don't care for the wealth and freedom of the people. It's time to get rid of those greedy assholes.
WolYou 3 years ago 4
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chinasucksforever 3 years ago
Wouldn't it just be easier to enslave workers to work for you in the U.S. and U.K.? Nothing can beat the competition of a workforce of slaves. Think all your products will be ALOT cheaper than Wal-Mart, isn't that what everyone wants?
plutocratarianism 3 years ago 4
You don't find a huge store in Europe like Walmart where everything is made in Asia. Its only America that rapes its workers. When Toyota was exploding here in the USA in the 80's you didn't see that in Europe.
America is a third rate country that doesn't care about its workforce. We need to organize and protest like people that know what its like to lose their freedom.
fgrod 3 years ago 3
Google: The Paleo Conservatist
Learn what's happening.
MyName20088002 3 years ago
Stop trying to justify outsourcing.
You are at that conference to promote it.
This video is propaganda.
LeftLiberalSoCal 4 years ago 3
Well the outsourcing story has changed even in the last 12 months with Indian companies like Infosys now outsourcing back to Europe and America tasks which they cannot do so easily and well in India right now - in particular senior management tasks. Patrick Dixon
pjvdixon 4 years ago
They can't do it because they're not smart! If they were, they would've been able to create an economy on their own instead of trying to steal everyone else's!
bipper1 3 years ago
@pjvdixon you are a very insightful man, thank you!!
phantomsuccour 1 year ago
@pjvdixon
Indian companies outsourcing to Europe & USA? Is it true? The trend is reverse! Can you shed some light on this? Thxs
dees900 4 months ago
America and Europe will soon become like India and China if all you greedy corporations keep sending those jobs overseas.
XionXXXX 4 years ago 3
We are one global village and as soviet union found you can if you wish reject market forces and subsidise inneficient organisations to protect jobs at home. History shows us that this usually results in lower standards of living and lower economic growth. Patrick Dixon
pjvdixon 4 years ago
You cannot compare the two. Read Lou Dobbs book "Exporting America". It will tell you everything, America is importing everything and producing nothing. The dollar is falling. The EU nations have high duties and are protectionist. Explain that. Look at the trade deficit. Manfucturing GONE. the only reason we still have and auto industry was becuase Reagan "protected jobs" by forcing to Japanese to build factories HERE buy erecting HUGE tarriffs. You are not looking at both sides of the story.
LeftLiberalSoCal 4 years ago
The waning strength of the US dollar is not because of outsourcing, but because of a government that just prints off money, thus faith is lost in the currency and the purchasing power of the US dollar decreases. Look up almost any economics text book and it will lean in favor of "outsourcing" or free trade. Subsidising a failing business is poor economics and that ultimately leads to a less efficient economy in which the consumer loses.
Xarulsis 3 years ago 3
Why not read a book in economics instead of reading a book from someone who dont know anything about international economics?
Musika113 3 years ago
"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes her laws." Mayer Amschel Rothschild
RonRepublican 2 years ago
@pjvdixon Your full of it. Germany is doing fine and its never shipped jobs out of the country. The is propaganda!
midarkmind 4 months ago
@XionXXXX Thats because our businessmen are wusses.
wolftreetree 9 months ago
What about being able to provide 24 hour cover due to the time zone differences. India is 12 hours ahead of USA's PST I think.
spadgecrouch 4 years ago
Correct - an important reason for outsourcing / offshoring.
Patrick
pjvdixon 4 years ago
Some things are important to outsource like making toothpaste caps and when you have 24/7 call centers but the USA is outsourcing EVERYTHING now. Even all the "high tech" manufacturing is gone. Look at your i-pod or PC - MADE IN CHINA. It is all about money. Thats it. The government must step in and STOP THIS.
LeftLiberalSoCal 4 years ago 8
@LeftLiberalSoCal: The beauty of outsourcing is that it works in two ways. Some countries should keep making toothpaste caps just like the US is the #1 in toilet paper exportation.
strattfordcrass 8 months ago
@LeftLiberalSoCal
Do you really think that the US government can stop this?
dees900 4 months ago
outsource began in the 90s right or was it late 80s? anyways, wat other reasons are there for outsourcing/offshoring other than wage cost advantage? company expansion i know is one possible reason but are there any other major reasons for outsourcing?
imbrd 4 years ago
Can also be speed of response if for example a team in India is able to work during the night when a European bank team is asleep and customers are not needing help. Patrick
pjvdixon 4 years ago
They way move at all?
linuxguru1968 4 years ago