I am a Moderate-Republican. That just means that I am a Republican who agrees with the Liberals on some issues and Conservatives on other issues. I am pro-life (Conservative) and for Gay rights (Liberal). You can even be a Liberal-Republican. Also, what is Conservative now, was liberal in the 18th century. I have also noticed that most people don't know what a Republican or Democrat is.
Around my neck of the woods,there are no sane repukes.30 years ago,I would have been considered conservative because I want fiscal responsibility,but the repukes left me in 1980 with Reagan and ever since that time they have just gotten more radical until they have gone so far out of the mainstream they are drowing in ignorance.
This fall's congrassional elections are an interesting test of the sanity of the American electorate. If looney-tunes candidates like Angle, Rand Paul, Rubio, etc win, and the Republicans succeed in obstructing their way to a majority in Congress, it'll be a dark day for the planet.
If they lose, maybe, just maybe, we'll see a re-emergence of a second party which actually advocates the common good rather than fear, greed, and naked partisanship.
@mistergarth In the short run it is a lose lose in any event. The supporters of these clowns are very stupid, angry and armed. They will not take losing well.
@mistergarth Liberals talk about the divisiveness of the tea party, but they have cannabalized many Dems who didn't accept their agenda. The next Congress will be the most partisan and polarized in decades, since both parties are purging moderates.
I'm truly impressed someone is discussing the topic of moderate Republicans. It's hard to believe in these days of right-wing radicalism, but it's a fact that they once existed. There used to be Republicans who held positions that today would be considered socialist or worst. Also the Republican party used to have both a right & left wing. A moderate Republican liberally meant someone between right & left. But politics has shifted so far right that what used to be moderate is now left of center.
@bushputz Apparently, I didn't notice your comment before or didn't respond for some reason. I agree with what you say, but I might push it back a bit further. Clinton represented the Democratic party moving to the right and becoming centrist. Clinton privately considered himself an Eisenhower Republican who was the last Republican to balance the budget and who warned that any party that tried to eliminate social security would be out of power for a generation.
@MarmaladeINFP Where are the moderate democrats? Half of blue dogs are out. The progressive caucus increases its number and will make 40-45% of House democratic representives. Many of those "progressives" are proud socialists.
@xaviqaz See my above response to bushputz. I think Clinton is symbolic of what the Democratic party has become. You have to understand the basic difference between the two parties. Dems are demographically diverse and so they are big tent with an emphasis on compromise. Repubs are demographically less diverse and so they are small tent with an emphasis on being against compromise. Democrats are forced to be moderate and centrist because they represent a wider spectrum of the American public.
@MarmaladeINFP Dems are demographically more diverse than the average nation on the same scale that Republicans are less diverse than the average nation: 50-60% of democratic vote is white; 80-90% of republican vote is white. I know what socialism is. And yes, there are several congressmen who endorse it.
@xaviqaz You prove my point. The Democratic Party is diverse. It is easier to get a Democrat to support a Republican policy than the other way around. There are very few socialists anywhere in US politics, and the ones that exist are so moderate as to be more accurately called social democrats. It's just that the Republican Party has gone so far right that any strong liberal appears like a socialist these days.
@xaviqaz Most Americans live in large urban areas. What exactly is your point? Are you a garden variety racist or a troll? I don't judge people according to skin color or the labels given to skin color. A century or so ago, Irish weren't considered white because they weren't WASPs. British people have black genetics because Roman soldiers that had been there were African. Our genetics are all mixed. Only ignorant bigots care about such things.
@xaviqaz I suspect that you are a typical conservative in not understanding socialism. Socialism means that those who control the means of production either are the public (such as communal businesses) or the representatives of the public (such as a local or federal govt). The US govt isn't socialist and Democrats aren't socialist. In the entire history of the US, there have only been a few socialist politicians such as some mayors in Milwaukee earlier last century.
Where are the sound bites where they claim to be socialist and proud of it? I'm not a democrat. I'd like to be a moderate republican. It's just does not seem possible any more and I can't vote for a rick perry type. That's like voting for an old southern dixiecrats.
I hope the GOP don't force me to vote for a democrat by nominating an idiot that thinks the world is 6000 years old, rejects other science & pushes fundamentalism as truth. I don't truth that type
@xaviqaz with noses in the air says: No Perry no Cain and no Gingrich... Does Romney bother you too?
REPLY: The only thing that worries me about Romney is his faith. Anyone that can believe the Joseph Smith myth makes me question how well they're in touch with reasoning and reality. Plus what's with this magic underwear he and other mormons are required to wear. I'm not questions his faith because he's not christian hell Perry is just as big religious fool and just as suspicious.
Excellent interview and analysis. That is exactly the picture we get over here from across the Atlantic. Who knows, maybe the whole tea party disaster will in the end help breaking up the rigid two-party reality in the US. Might be a good thing in the end. My country needed extremists to basically rape the very idea of democracy before we got it in working order...
@defcore108 Even in Canada, with Harper as PM--a man I have little use for, and quite extreme to the right--the Conservatives have had to compromise, and seem rather quiet now that the GOP is no longer a conservative model. So if anyone thinks Canada is either socialist or small-c conservative. America is lost if the GOP doesn't look for compromise.
I am a Moderate-Republican. That just means that I am a Republican who agrees with the Liberals on some issues and Conservatives on other issues. I am pro-life (Conservative) and for Gay rights (Liberal). You can even be a Liberal-Republican. Also, what is Conservative now, was liberal in the 18th century. I have also noticed that most people don't know what a Republican or Democrat is.
AntiRacismAndHateCom 3 months ago
A moderate Republican is as common as a Dodo.
Einsteinbomb 6 months ago
I wish moderate democrats were a endangered species.
imaginepeace63 1 year ago
Snowe and Collins are tea baggers.
dizzymasekela 1 year ago
Around my neck of the woods,there are no sane repukes.30 years ago,I would have been considered conservative because I want fiscal responsibility,but the repukes left me in 1980 with Reagan and ever since that time they have just gotten more radical until they have gone so far out of the mainstream they are drowing in ignorance.
blair227 1 year ago
Is Republicanus moderata endangered, or extinct?
This fall's congrassional elections are an interesting test of the sanity of the American electorate. If looney-tunes candidates like Angle, Rand Paul, Rubio, etc win, and the Republicans succeed in obstructing their way to a majority in Congress, it'll be a dark day for the planet.
If they lose, maybe, just maybe, we'll see a re-emergence of a second party which actually advocates the common good rather than fear, greed, and naked partisanship.
mistergarth 1 year ago
@mistergarth In the short run it is a lose lose in any event. The supporters of these clowns are very stupid, angry and armed. They will not take losing well.
cosmosgato 1 year ago
@mistergarth Liberals talk about the divisiveness of the tea party, but they have cannabalized many Dems who didn't accept their agenda. The next Congress will be the most partisan and polarized in decades, since both parties are purging moderates.
xaviqaz 1 year ago
I'm truly impressed someone is discussing the topic of moderate Republicans. It's hard to believe in these days of right-wing radicalism, but it's a fact that they once existed. There used to be Republicans who held positions that today would be considered socialist or worst. Also the Republican party used to have both a right & left wing. A moderate Republican liberally meant someone between right & left. But politics has shifted so far right that what used to be moderate is now left of center.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
@MarmaladeINFP The Republican party has gone down a long way since the days of Lincoln, at that they were progessive .
Intransitman 1 year ago
@MarmaladeINFP
Today's Democratic Party is where the Republican Party was 20-30 years ago.
Today's Republican Party would make Ghengis Khan wince.
"Moderate Republican"?
Yeah. Right. Talk about an oxymoron....
bushputz 1 year ago
@bushputz Apparently, I didn't notice your comment before or didn't respond for some reason. I agree with what you say, but I might push it back a bit further. Clinton represented the Democratic party moving to the right and becoming centrist. Clinton privately considered himself an Eisenhower Republican who was the last Republican to balance the budget and who warned that any party that tried to eliminate social security would be out of power for a generation.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
@MarmaladeINFP Where are the moderate democrats? Half of blue dogs are out. The progressive caucus increases its number and will make 40-45% of House democratic representives. Many of those "progressives" are proud socialists.
xaviqaz 1 year ago
@xaviqaz See my above response to bushputz. I think Clinton is symbolic of what the Democratic party has become. You have to understand the basic difference between the two parties. Dems are demographically diverse and so they are big tent with an emphasis on compromise. Repubs are demographically less diverse and so they are small tent with an emphasis on being against compromise. Democrats are forced to be moderate and centrist because they represent a wider spectrum of the American public.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
@MarmaladeINFP Dems are demographically more diverse than the average nation on the same scale that Republicans are less diverse than the average nation: 50-60% of democratic vote is white; 80-90% of republican vote is white. I know what socialism is. And yes, there are several congressmen who endorse it.
xaviqaz 2 months ago
@xaviqaz You prove my point. The Democratic Party is diverse. It is easier to get a Democrat to support a Republican policy than the other way around. There are very few socialists anywhere in US politics, and the ones that exist are so moderate as to be more accurately called social democrats. It's just that the Republican Party has gone so far right that any strong liberal appears like a socialist these days.
MarmaladeINFP 2 months ago
@MarmaladeINFP Outside large urban areas and a few states in the northeast, i see a red map nationwide. Does "diverse" mean less whites?
xaviqaz 2 months ago
@xaviqaz Most Americans live in large urban areas. What exactly is your point? Are you a garden variety racist or a troll? I don't judge people according to skin color or the labels given to skin color. A century or so ago, Irish weren't considered white because they weren't WASPs. British people have black genetics because Roman soldiers that had been there were African. Our genetics are all mixed. Only ignorant bigots care about such things.
MarmaladeINFP 2 months ago
@MarmaladeINFP I meant big cities, sorry. Most americans live in suburban areas. Not a racist nor a troll.
xaviqaz 2 months ago
@xaviqaz I suspect that you are a typical conservative in not understanding socialism. Socialism means that those who control the means of production either are the public (such as communal businesses) or the representatives of the public (such as a local or federal govt). The US govt isn't socialist and Democrats aren't socialist. In the entire history of the US, there have only been a few socialist politicians such as some mayors in Milwaukee earlier last century.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
@xaviqaz proud socialist
Where are the sound bites where they claim to be socialist and proud of it? I'm not a democrat. I'd like to be a moderate republican. It's just does not seem possible any more and I can't vote for a rick perry type. That's like voting for an old southern dixiecrats.
I hope the GOP don't force me to vote for a democrat by nominating an idiot that thinks the world is 6000 years old, rejects other science & pushes fundamentalism as truth. I don't truth that type
Cuffsmaster 5 months ago
@Cuffsmaster No Perry no Cain and no Gingrich... Does Romney bother you too?
xaviqaz 2 months ago
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@xaviqaz with noses in the air says: No Perry no Cain and no Gingrich... Does Romney bother you too?
REPLY: The only thing that worries me about Romney is his faith. Anyone that can believe the Joseph Smith myth makes me question how well they're in touch with reasoning and reality. Plus what's with this magic underwear he and other mormons are required to wear. I'm not questions his faith because he's not christian hell Perry is just as big religious fool and just as suspicious.
Cuffsmaster 2 months ago
Excellent interview and analysis. That is exactly the picture we get over here from across the Atlantic. Who knows, maybe the whole tea party disaster will in the end help breaking up the rigid two-party reality in the US. Might be a good thing in the end. My country needed extremists to basically rape the very idea of democracy before we got it in working order...
defcore108 1 year ago
@defcore108 Even in Canada, with Harper as PM--a man I have little use for, and quite extreme to the right--the Conservatives have had to compromise, and seem rather quiet now that the GOP is no longer a conservative model. So if anyone thinks Canada is either socialist or small-c conservative. America is lost if the GOP doesn't look for compromise.
bartonim 1 year ago
I have a dragon, a fairy and a unicorn; all I need is a moderate Republican to complete my collection!
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
@RadarKat73080
I'd like to help you, but that's kind of a stretch.
Would you settle for the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot, or a New Jersey virgin?
bushputz 1 year ago
@bushputz Shit man, I'd take a virgin over 15!
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
@RadarKat73080
Ummm...
Over 15?
I'll keep looking for Bigfoot...
bushputz 1 year ago
@bushputz Glad you didn't think I was a sleaze or anything. Man, kids are doin' crap I never even tried when I was married!
RadarKat73080 1 year ago