im assuming the statement "every scientist in the world now believes this" (speaking of global warming) is tongue in cheek because that would prove his ignorance right there. what about the laziness of Americans? I eat TONS of meat, and fastfood but im not fat? its called being active. industrialization=increase in quality of life. he fails to mention life expectancy has increased from 47 to over 78 from 1900 to now (even with all this "horrible" food and "global warming")
@browntroutfisher To say "I eat TONS of meat, and fastfood but im not fat" as evidence that there is nothing unhealthy about the typical western diet is quite stupid. You do understand the difference between correlation and causality right? Furthermore, since when was weight the defining factor in assessing someone's health, genetic predisposition and body type are the primary factors at play here. You must assume that anorexic chicks and bodybuilders are the healthiest among us huh?
Saying "global warming is a fact and all scientists know it" is idiocy. It's ok to talk about what you know, but making things up is amateur. Global warming is a hoax, the planet's climate has been becoming colder and colder the past decade. Al Gore is a clown who makes money selling/buying in the CO2 market. CO2 is our ally, as are our forests who thrive on CO2. Deal with oil and leave the people alone. Deal with multinational corporations and leave us be.
@infamouscrook dude its not the planet's climate becoming colder you bloody idiot. its your country that is being colder and colder.. Global warming doesn't make everything in this world hotter. Depending on where you are, if your country near the equator, then the country will get hotter, while those who are far from the equator will get colder.. thats global warming.
@infamouscrook Forests may 'thrive' on CO2 but if all of them are being cut down so we are disrupting the carbon cycle and much more CO2 remains in the atmosphere than should be.
And maybe tell the ice caps they shouldn't all be melting since the world is getting colder and colder?
One of the big problems is what we are feeding our livestock. They just are not adapted to eating large quantities of corn leading to the livestock expelling excess amounts of methane.
One of the big problems is what we are feeding our livestock. They just are not adapted to eating large quantities of corn leading to the livestock expelling excess amounts of methane.
It's all good only he did not address the GM's that are fed to all the live stock making the meat toxic, and all the actual live food now that are GM's. Most of the processed food contain GM's, we are running out of actual food that have any nutrients in them. Malnourished & Overfed. God had a plan for this, Rev 22:2,10 The Tree of Life, the Moringa Oleifera, housing 92 verifiable nutrients, restoring the immune system to fight this toxic situation, to partake go to drinklifein #200522
he lost me at "every scientist in the world believes this..." Sorry. Bullshit. Basing your entire presentation on the falsification that "all scientists believe the same thing" proves he's full of shit. I'll look for the next guy to talk on food that isn't an ideologue.
@bakcompat yes he dramatizes things, that doesn't at all take away from everything he says being true. We need to change the way we eat, and think. PERIOD.
1 out 2 average males will develop some cancers, good or bad, in his life time and one in 3 females. Do research on Amazon.com on diet and disease and you will see this guy make a lot of sense.
I wish more people would watch this if they aren't going to read a book on the state of our eating habits (I'm sure they'd still run away from the mere 20 minutes, though).
I found since I stopped leaving my TV on while on the computer and generally watching less to no TV, I haven't had any cravings for food besides chocolate (which is my favorite candy.)
Awesome talk! Great job of squeezing lots of important info in. Thank you for speaking out for the animals and the earth and our collective health! :)
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A cook who thinks we should cook more. Surprising.....
Lets put some science back into this. The western diet is not meat based. Epidemiological data is suggesting its the chronic consumption of processed carbs. Nothing to do with meat and dairy. Some civilisations eat all meat and live longer, some eat none and live longer.
He's saying that he believes in global warming, and I don't feel comfortable with that 'cause, you know, every time you exhale (breathe out) you're adding CO2 to the atmosphere, and so one way of stopping all that would be by putting an end to your own existence... If you've not read about it all, you're probably finding this assertion retarded. Or maybe I'm wrong, 'cause I'd love to be wrong on that one.
Animals promote sickness... veggies promote health, that is indisputable? really?
I get the argument that meat industry is bad for earth, that at 6 billion ppl meat we can't all be predominantly meat eaters. But whole bread is health promoting while meat is causing sickness, I'm calling double bullsh*t on this.
@KalifUmestoKalifa Takes a bit of time for it to sink in but the facts are clear. More and more people are getting ill. Why? Its the diet! We have never eaten as much meat as we do now. Never have we eaten less fruits and vegetables as we do now. In the countries that eat the most meat, they get the most sick from cancer, diabetes, strokes, asthma, allergies, etc. You can call bs all you want, it doesn't change the facts.
Lets also lock up the people from Montsantos (round up ready soy) who spread their GMO's to the organic farms and then later send snitches to sample the crops.If they find their GMO's they sue.How can anything remain organic,if plant pollen spreads in the wind?Not to get into the GMM's they inject into us,called vaccination:there is no guaranteed immunity,but incidence of allergies etc. and medecine knows too little about late effects.It's about greed without morals,referred to as progress.
Interesting talk. But I disagree with a bunch of cause-effect scenarios he paints: The fast food industry wasn't, like he puts it, created to eliminate excess meat - the meat production went up to cover the increased demand for meat, which was (in part) caused by the fast food chains, and a higher standard of living, and probably many other factors...
the sun is the main driver of climate change and it's not just our planet warming up
. more carbon = more plants = more food, get ready to pay your carbon taxes. it's not meat making you fat it's vitamin deficient mass produced processed food that you need to eat more of. this guy is deficient in facts
@Anglehound you are to some extent right... but more carbon does not = more plants. what plants need, and also depending on the species, is often more complicated than that.
Notice the Liberal slant which pre-supposes his arguement is correct and all thats left is how to implement the plan. Can't we find an island for Liberals to test their theories out? If I had to take a wild guess, the survivors would all be staunch conservatives by the end of the experiment
if you eat unhealthy (processed foods, junk foods) sooner or later cancer / heart disease and so on will get to you. after educating myself about food and health my eating habits have drastically changed. knowledge is power.
Great words about foods! But the global warming / Greenhouse gasses connection in a scam. I think he is just misinformed about that. Take care and eath healthy. I cutted of the crap year ago and now im feeling superb. Cheers!
Eating animals that live in their filth and are fed unnatural subsidized grain diets and stuffed with antibiotics and steroids is most likely the cause of the increase in human diseases...not exactly eating meat in general
i have a question. when mark says about eating meat half a pound a week (and that we eat the same amount per day), the slide shows red meat. is he talking about meat in general regardless of either red or white?
Wow, the last 100 years of American diseases in a nutshell. The meat/junk diets are slowly killing our kids and adults. When will this supposedly intelligent country learn that and make the move toward a more plant-friendly diet? It's 2010 and we're not cavemen anymore. Even regular supermarkets now stock veggie or vegan products. Maybe it's time many adults stop making childish faces at vegetarian food choices and try a few of them instead. Please set an example for your kids instead of puttin
@veganguy1 Its has nothing to do with meat consumption. nothing. Not one study has ever shown a link between meat consumption and disease. Ever. He just nicely keeps saying "disease caused by processed carbs, junk food and meat". Nonsense. And pretty shocking someone can be given this stage.
if i could interject some reason into this conversation- I am a vegan, an atheist, and a general believer in all of the redundant comments made by this man in his speech- but anyone who would make an absurd categorical statement such as "all scientists now believe in global warming" (which is a false claim), and then a disrespectful and cynical statement such as "george bush even now claims to have seen the light" undercuts the ethos of the noble ideas he is discussing.
Hey all. Check out and get involved with local farmers markets. Find local stores to purchase your foods and stay out of the big box stores like Winco, Costco, and Walmart. Also, and I know a bunch of people are going to get all excited about this one but, stop having litters of children. What ever reason you have for believing you need 3 or more children needs to be reviewed.
I'm not going to delve into the whole pro or anti meat arguments but I will say this- our obsession with excess and the unlimited has gotten the better of us. It's high time that we learnt of self control, bought locally, paid attention to our bodies and started learning the value of home cooking. This isn't some snide comment about "woman git back in mah kitchen" but that we all need to learn how to cook for ourselves and share this with our families. It's a call for personal responsibility.
If you ate all raw, nothing cooked, then you would fill up very quickly because of the nutrients haven't been cooked out of them. I read that 50% of vitamins are destroyed from cooking.
@thefredsociety Potatoes, rice, pasta, semolina, oats, polenta, legumes, mushrooms, nuts, fruit, avocado...etc. It is easy to reduce meat intake. Plus the extra variety is both delicious and a refreshing change.
@thefredsociety Eating vegetarian food is not about replacing meat with vegetables, but rather with other sources of protein. There are so many other dishes you can cook up with legumes, quinoa, eggs, tofu, tempeh, seitan, and nuts-- all protein sources. What it takes is willingness to explore new avenues and possibilities. Indian cooking is incredibly delicious, and much of it is vegetarian.
@thefredsociety Eating vegetarian food is not about replacing meat with vegetables, but rather with other sources of protein. There are so many other dishes you can cook up with legumes, quinoa, eggs, tofu, tempeh, seitan, and nuts-- all protein sources. What it takes is willingness to explore new avenues and possibilities. Indian cooking is incredibly delicious, and much of it is vegetarian.
Realistically we could get rid of meat altogether.
I know hundreds of people who are now educating their children at a very young age about what happens to a cow and whhere the meat comes from. Its the way the corporations do it get them while they are young. Let the children know where their meat comes from I can tell you it puts them of it for good it might sound cruel but killing them is far worse.
Chickens cows pigs reproduce very fast. you dont eat them you will have a over population problem to deal with . Veggies help the planet and the vegatarians eating away all our plants saying help the enviroment ! oh yea!. We need a good balance of both but mostly plants. Junk food is for people who dont care . Your body needs both. Your digestive system is for both . Dont over look the obvious
chicken and pigs do reproduce at a rapid rate naturally, yes. however humans pumping them full of hormones and mass producing them is only ADDING to the problem of them becoming overpopulated... which is why " they need to be eaten" to prevent over population...
@coolbeens21 Crying straw man already ? You confirmed my point they reproduce very fast. The reasons we pump them full of hormones is to get higher productivity. My point was very simple , if we did not eat any animals then we wouldnt need to put the hormones into place , they would still overpopulate either way . But thank you for proving my point, crying strawman , and making your self more foolish now. Youtube trolls <3
@yourboycal Enjoy your fake <3's. you know nothing about animal products and their affect on our bodies.. a simple google search will do you some good., Grats on your "research"
not only are your arguments straw men, you are literally grasping at straws.
@coolbeens21 haha like i thought . You know little of what you speak of now that you've been caught with your tongue sticking out =p . Its okay im used to trolls like you on youtube. Who prance around pretending like they know what there talking about then when i call your bluff you resort to personal attack on my intelligence. Classical intellectual bankrupcy =p <3 <3 <3 MWAH loool
"100 years ago there were no national brands"? Campbell's soup was founded in 1869. Or did it not go national until much later? Someone clarify this for me please.
Interesting presentation. Yet I find there is a more important point to be made. It is not just the over consumption of meat, as a food item, that is the problem. The true tragedy of our time is OVER CONSUMPTION. Next time you walk along a commercial street, count the number of restaurants or food courts or coffee shops,... We have become glutons. And our body mass index bears witness to our greedy weak mind.
he lost credibility from me when he said that "every scientist" has concluded the actuality of the "GLobal warming" scheme ((scam)). using words like all and every, is awfully presumptuous and therefore logically discrediting. never assume else you will make an ass out of you and me
@bramthewell . There is a lack of scientific honesty in your way of judging Bittman. It is black and white. Just because Bittman asserted "all scientists agree..." you reject all his presentation and points. If that is the case, then I am sorry to say that you are guilty of the same shortcoming that you accuse Bittman of.
...at the pump & elsewhere. So their providing us the energy we use is dirtier, filthier than our use of that energy, to the point that our food choices are more polluting. Hmmm, huh?
@reforest4fertility It's odd that Bittman says livestock production contributes more to greenhouse gasses than transportation, since transportion is PART of livestock production. Shipping the grains from the field to the feedlot, transporting the cattle from the feedlot to the slaughterhouse, shipping the meat from the slaughterhouse to the processing plant, shipping the finished product from the processing plant to the supermarket - I'd say transportation is part of meat production.
Whoa dude (Bittman), notice how fast he blows past the hugest point, "after energy production, livestock is the 2nd highest contributor of greenhouse gases". OK, I know his focus here is on our choice of fuel 4 humans (livestock) and not on what we've chosen as our primary energy source, oil. I know he said it so fast & touched on it so lightly, but after all this is the bigger bomb. He wasn't saying "our energy use", but the production, extraction, processing to the point of our use at...
People that say you can't build muscle from a meat free diet are genuinely very, very, very, very thick. The worlds largest mammals are all vegan. Rhinos for example. Lets see Mr.Bigmeateater tame down a fucking rhino hahahaha!
I'm an Indian and people like this bozo is what makes Americans stupid to the rest of the world. I've eaten a lot McNuggets and all that "spicy" stuff he claims and that is utter nonsense. The amount of any spice is any american food is NEGLIGABLE compared to the spice in much of the rest of the subcontinent.
@cheapshot1234 Indian food certainly contains a much wider and more flavorful variety of spices than American food (I love Indian food and actually cook it quite often), but I think what Bittman was referring to was the fact that the processed food industry packs tons of sugar, salt, and artificial flavoring agents into food to make it taste better than it really is. I agree that "spice" was probably not his best choice of words, though.
When he said that "all scientists agree that global warming is a given", he gave himself away as one of those radicals. There are more than 30,000 scientists who have signed a petition that state that Global warming is is over hyped and alarmist. This guy is one of those loonies who subtly creates a political climate for control. Who the hell is this guy to create a climate where they force us on what to eat. There is ample evidence that global warming is a big hoax
People meat is good when it is raw not coocked boiled but raw like vegetables and fruits.all kind of food no matter vegetable or meat is bad when it is coocked or boiled.
Global warming is for real guys. Vegetarianism is the way to go forward. Eat fresh food and stay healthy. Muscles can be made by vegetable protein too.
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A little bit of his research is correct and he uses that to establish some credibility. But most of his talk is pure liberal bunk. Clearly he hates America and our capitalist system which feeds him. See how easily these non thinkers jump on any bandwagon.
He was one of Obama's biggest supporters after Edwards dropped out. He hates the word profit. What a socialist.
Flying fish from Chile "too much of a carbon footprint?....His DUMBASS is too much of a carbon footprint.....Have we gone this far....when can we just live...He's got a lot of nerve even bringing up the Holocaust within this stupid ass politically oriented diatribe. And there is NO methane issue with cows. Fucking new york times. Just work and produce something you douchebag, stop your yapping, idiot!
While we don't feed rainforest to cattle, the forests are clear cut so the land can be used to grow grain for livestock. It takes 13 pounds of grain to get one pound of beef, nevermind how much water is used in the entire process from birth to death.
I'm sorry, but I've never met a vegan or vegetarian that didn't look emaciated and malnourished or seemingly invariably lethargic. You need to eat meat and in order to build muscle (this is for athletes) you need protein.
then you haven't met me. i've been vegetarian for over 7 months now, and in fact i've reversed my hypothyroidism and no longer have to take medication that i would otherwise have had to for the rest of my life. and you DO NOT need meat to build muscle. sure it is packed full of protein, but it isn't the only source of it. for example: Charlene Wong, Paavo Nurmi, Chris Campbell, Carl Lewis, Surya Bonaly, Debbie Lawrence, Murray Rose, Al Oerter, Edwin Moses, Leroy Burrell, all olympic atheletes.
I'm sure you can find all sorts of sources of plant protein, but it's far more difficult. I've never heard of a body builder that was a vegan or vegetarian and I'll gladly do the research if you give me a name. Some of those people are amazing athletes, but that's a very small group of people in a very large pool. You'll always find exceptions, but that still doesn't prove that meat is the culprit for any diseases.
You've only been vegetarian for 7 months. Wait a couple years.
Brendan Brazier, Professional Ironman triathlete; Andreas Cahling, Swedish champion bodybuilder; Desmond Howard, professional football player; Bill Manetti, power-lifting champion; Bill Pearl, four-time Mr. Universe; Stan Price, world weightlifting record holder (bench press); Dave Scott, six-time winner of the Ironman triathlon; Art Still, Buffalo Bills and Kansas City Chiefs MVP defensive end; Mac Danzig, UFC champion.
I've been a vegan for years and my health is just fine.
I don't know why my comment was flagged as spam. The list I gave was of world-class top-of-their-game athletes who achieved their successes while on a vegan or vegetarian diet, and this was to refute the notion that gets repeated ad nauseum in this commentary and elsewhere that vegetarians are all weak, sick, frail, emaciated, lethargic, and generally unhealthy. Honest facts presented in refutation of false notions may be disconcerting, but they are not "spam".
It's entirely untrue to say that we don't need animal products. There is no way to acquire vitamin B12 through plant products AND the body uses protein from animal products more efficiently than plant protein.
Another thing that is completely misleading about this talk is that he is saying that heart disease is caused by meat products and that's just utterly false. Refined carbs and corn are the culprit, not meat.
@Masterphan We "need" animal products? I eat no animal products at all and I'm healthier than I was before going vegan. B12 is not made by animals or plants, but by bacteria in the soil. We wash the soil off the plants we eat, cows don't - that's how they get B12. I like my veggies washed for sanitary reasons, so I take a a standard multivitamin containing B12. Plant protein is perfectly well assimilable by the body and doesn't come packaged with saturated fat the way animal protein does.
@honeybear64 Complete proteins in plant products are very limited in essential amino acids in comparison to their animal product counterparts. Saturated fat is not bad for you. There is no correlation between consumption of fat and health risks. Look it up on Pubmed. As far as the B12 thing goes, we don't eat those bacteria so we have to get it indirectly and that means meat products or supplements. Also, those athletes were not products of their vegan/vegetarianism.
@Masterphan Few plants contain all amino acids in balance by themselves (with quinoa, amaranth, and buckwheat as notable exceptions), but no one eats just one thing. Eating a variety of vegs and grains ensures a complete amino acid profile. For example, the amino acids limited in beans are present in rice, and vice-versa. So put them together and the result is a complete protein. Meat is a convenient SINGLE source of complete protein, but not therefore a superior one in terms of the total diet.
@honeybear64 It absolutely is superior. Eating several plant proteins together and saying that it's a complete protein is just fine but the amount of protein that is acquired through plant products is far less than through meat products. In response to "no one eats just one thing," meat products can be eaten with plant products to acquire other vitamins and minerals that are less plentiful in meat products. Being a vegan/vegetarian is limiting and an inferior way to acquire complete proteins.
@Masterphan You admit that complete protein can be obtained from plants and say the problem is that plants don't provide enough of it. So the "superiority" of protein in meat is simply due to quantity? The amount of protein we need is a matter of debate, but sufficiency can be observed clinically. Hair and nails healthy and growing? Healing quickly from illness and injury? Not sick often? Muscle mass preserved? Then you're getting enough protein.
@Masterphan The amount of protein we need varies by source (Am. Jour. of Clin. Nutrition says 2.5% of daily calories, Natl. Acad. of Sciences says 4.5-6.0%, Natl. Research Council says 8%), but they're all below the amount eaten by the average American, and are easily met on a vegan or vegetarian diet. Chicken breast tenders have 5.5 g protein/100 calories, cooked quinoa has 4 g/100 calories - less, to be sure, but not radically less. Tofu even has 13.5 g/100 calories!
@honeybear64 Chicken is meat. Sorry, but vegetarianism is nothing but a cheater's version of veganism. Acquiring enough protein without meat is just more difficult and there's no denying that. I never said that you couldn't eat plant food with meat food. Vegetarians and vegans are limited so my argument still stands that meat is a superior source of protein.
@Masterphan Uh, hello? I know chicken is meat, I'm not an idiot. My point was that chicken has protein, but not RADICALLY more protein than some plant sources. You still haven't defined/clarified what you meat by "limited".
@Masterphan I'm also not sure what you mean by the athletes I mentioned not being "products of their vegetarianism". Mixed martial arts champ Mac Danzig became a strict vegan in 2004, and since then he has racked up 15 wins and only 5 losses. In the last year I traded my desk job for one involving physical labor and I've gained muscle mass while sticking to my strict vegan diet, so veganism obviously doesn't inhibit growth. So I honestly don't get the whole "we need animal protein" argument.
@honeybear64 If everyone went on a vegan or vegetarian diet and had similar results, then I'd be inclined to believe you, but most athletes eat meat and there are only a few exceptions. That has a lot to do with predisposition and genetics. Those athletes could have just been great athletes. I know that I'm just speculating on this particular post, but the fact of the matter is that most athletes eat meat and until those same athletes obtain similar results through vegetarianism, I disagree.
@Masterphan Traditional rural Asians eat a low protein, high carbohydrate diet, and their rates of heart disease, stroke, diabetes, and certain cancers (like colon cancer) are FAR lower than ours. The Okinawans, for instance, eat very little meat and virtually no eggs or dairy products, and they have the longest life expectancy in the world. And it's not all due to genetics, either - when these people adopt a Western pattern diet, we see their rates of these diseases begin to approach ours.
@honeybear64 So you're saying that Asian people, like myself, have evolved to have a lower insulin response and are able to use carbs more readily than most other cultures and vegetarianism is the reason that we're healthier? That's absurd. I don't agree with the idea that meat is the cause of any of those diseases. I have good reason to believe carbs are the culprit. Those pockets of people that live long are a result of their community and diet. Find me a regular vegan that lives that long.
@Masterphan No, I'm precisely NOT saying that evolution/genetics has anything to do with it, since when rural Asians becomes wealthier, move to cities, etc, and adopt a more Western pattern diet, they start suffering from the same diseases Americans suffer from.
@honeybear64 Again. I disagree with the notion that meat products have anything to do with these diseases. I have very good reason and have done the scientific research to come to the conclusion that refined carbs are the main culprit concerning those diseases.
Actually there are carcinogens (cancer causing chemicals) activated in animal products (particularly dead animal flesh, aka meat.) when they are heated... apparently your research has lead you astray.
@coolbeens21 Apparently you didn't read all the research yourself. It's only in overly cooked meat and it's not known to cause anything. It's only shown to have traces of carcinogens that are known to cause those cancers. It doesn't actually cause the cancer itself. I'm sorry but you're wrong. Don't try to be a scientist if you're not one. Correlation is not causation. Your lack of research has lead you astray.
The enlightened individual is way ahead of the curve and clearly on the right track. The information he seeks to spread is widely known among many groups of people. I can only hope is wisdom becomes adopted by more societies for all our good.
To all the people that posted a negative comment about this video: first of all go watch food Inc. Second of all, all you guys are ignorant fatasses who love to eat their lives away. And third, most of th stuff you guys eat cause cancer.
what a hideous statement!! the poor make much less of a carbon footprint than someone like you!!! maybe they should eat you!! then your nastiness would be history too!!!
Wow I just got a craving for a coke,whopper,and skittles.....oh btw this guys a dumbass....who pays him to speak and further more who actually listens....sad this is partially why America is becomeing dumb..
wrong! America is becoming more and more dumb because of people like you, who are brainwashed by the propaganda of the big corporations who are ONLY out to make money, at the cost of the health of the people and the planet.
So they are being bred a shit ton, should make up for all the Buffalo that were massacred and almost made extinct in the past few hundred years. Who's to say there are more cattle on the earth now than there ever was. Also we don't feed rain forests to cattle, we feed them corn based products made on farms.
@u2ubpw7 Agreed, scare mongering left wing elitist who wants to control us. He might have a point on junk food being unhealthy -duh- but to Hell with him outcrying how evil it is. Many scientists do not believe in global warming, cow farts are harmless unless you're right next to it. Pewee! Meat is a resouce, I like animals too, but people need to eat. If this asshole had his way, food prices and choices would skyrocket our lifestyles would deteriorate.
what a douche bag, he is attending too many cocktail parties in manhatten. Global Warming is a Myth, a lie. The numbers are doctored to fit the narrative time and time again.companies Like coca cola helped build this country. Go Live in Sweden you big communist
Lol, not to mention that Global Warming idiots are saying that it's causing LESS snow. But NOW they're saying it causes MORE. It can't be both because that would be a contradiction! Too bad people have lost the ability to think for themselves.
If I could create a lie so big that people would believe it and it would make me millions, would I tell that lie? You are damned right I would and I'd live happily off the stupidity of others. Just like they're doing to all you idiots that believe in it.
Also, here's a little known fact: the average surface temperature on Earth was hotter more than 400 years ago when compared to today's average surface temperature.
Now, I'm sure all the cars and pollution factories 400+ years ago helped contribute to that by quite a bit!
Again, people like the guy in the video makes a ton of money off people that are gullible and will believe anything they're told. Ever wonder why all these Global Warming scientists are being busted in their lies lately?
He raises a few good points in the video. but offers nothing practical. Oh yes, we should stop producing animals industrially, but by his own admission we cant really do that considering the sheer numbers of them in demand, and that's at current population levels. China's industrial production of just about everything is exploding as well, as it will continue to do. even were we all to cut our meat intake by 50% it wouldn't eliminate the need for large scale (aka industrial) animal farms.
I guess what he offers that's practical is the advice to cut way back on the consumption of animal products. As he says, 50% is only a start. Granted, that's not likely to happen on a large scale any time soon. But of course 50 years ago, the idea of any significant number of people recycling would have seemed a silly notion, yet now it's a common practice. It's hard to be optimistic but I try!
Yes, there's not much we can do about the situation in China. We have to clean up our own mess.
i bet this guy is an obama bot. hanging out with pelosi and reid, drinking the kool aid
SailorVVV 4 days ago
im assuming the statement "every scientist in the world now believes this" (speaking of global warming) is tongue in cheek because that would prove his ignorance right there. what about the laziness of Americans? I eat TONS of meat, and fastfood but im not fat? its called being active. industrialization=increase in quality of life. he fails to mention life expectancy has increased from 47 to over 78 from 1900 to now (even with all this "horrible" food and "global warming")
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@browntroutfisher To say "I eat TONS of meat, and fastfood but im not fat" as evidence that there is nothing unhealthy about the typical western diet is quite stupid. You do understand the difference between correlation and causality right? Furthermore, since when was weight the defining factor in assessing someone's health, genetic predisposition and body type are the primary factors at play here. You must assume that anorexic chicks and bodybuilders are the healthiest among us huh?
ralphfraz 1 day ago
this guys comes off as an elitist douche bag and is too preachy... gonna have a burger now
JogBird 3 weeks ago
@JogBird your a fucking ass hole. you need to see teh world as it really is
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the energy of plants/fruits gets you farther in life.
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CLSkill 3 months ago
Saying "global warming is a fact and all scientists know it" is idiocy. It's ok to talk about what you know, but making things up is amateur. Global warming is a hoax, the planet's climate has been becoming colder and colder the past decade. Al Gore is a clown who makes money selling/buying in the CO2 market. CO2 is our ally, as are our forests who thrive on CO2. Deal with oil and leave the people alone. Deal with multinational corporations and leave us be.
infamouscrook 3 months ago
@infamouscrook dude its not the planet's climate becoming colder you bloody idiot. its your country that is being colder and colder.. Global warming doesn't make everything in this world hotter. Depending on where you are, if your country near the equator, then the country will get hotter, while those who are far from the equator will get colder.. thats global warming.
nvrfrgt3 3 months ago
@infamouscrook Forests may 'thrive' on CO2 but if all of them are being cut down so we are disrupting the carbon cycle and much more CO2 remains in the atmosphere than should be.
And maybe tell the ice caps they shouldn't all be melting since the world is getting colder and colder?
mariana123312 3 months ago
this video made me kinda hungry, time for a hot pocket!
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One of the big problems is what we are feeding our livestock. They just are not adapted to eating large quantities of corn leading to the livestock expelling excess amounts of methane.
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One of the big problems is what we are feeding our livestock. They just are not adapted to eating large quantities of corn leading to the livestock expelling excess amounts of methane.
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It's all good only he did not address the GM's that are fed to all the live stock making the meat toxic, and all the actual live food now that are GM's. Most of the processed food contain GM's, we are running out of actual food that have any nutrients in them. Malnourished & Overfed. God had a plan for this, Rev 22:2,10 The Tree of Life, the Moringa Oleifera, housing 92 verifiable nutrients, restoring the immune system to fight this toxic situation, to partake go to drinklifein #200522
oneofthosewomen4ever 4 months ago
he lost me at "every scientist in the world believes this..." Sorry. Bullshit. Basing your entire presentation on the falsification that "all scientists believe the same thing" proves he's full of shit. I'll look for the next guy to talk on food that isn't an ideologue.
bakcompat 4 months ago
@bakcompat yes he dramatizes things, that doesn't at all take away from everything he says being true. We need to change the way we eat, and think. PERIOD.
TheJasonreti 4 months ago
@bakcompat So because of one thing he said you are disregarding the whole lecture?
shinigamijesi 4 months ago
@shinigamijesi when you predicate your argument on false assumptions, you pretty much destroy your argument.
bakcompat 4 months ago
Steve jobs keynote
terminator800tlgm 5 months ago
1 out 2 average males will develop some cancers, good or bad, in his life time and one in 3 females. Do research on Amazon.com on diet and disease and you will see this guy make a lot of sense.
terminator800tlgm 5 months ago
I wish more people would watch this if they aren't going to read a book on the state of our eating habits (I'm sure they'd still run away from the mere 20 minutes, though).
toyhyena 5 months ago
I found since I stopped leaving my TV on while on the computer and generally watching less to no TV, I haven't had any cravings for food besides chocolate (which is my favorite candy.)
laxwolf 5 months ago
Awesome talk! Great job of squeezing lots of important info in. Thank you for speaking out for the animals and the earth and our collective health! :)
cocojean88 5 months ago
I worship broccoli:)
Kallysta11 6 months ago
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A cook who thinks we should cook more. Surprising.....
Lets put some science back into this. The western diet is not meat based. Epidemiological data is suggesting its the chronic consumption of processed carbs. Nothing to do with meat and dairy. Some civilisations eat all meat and live longer, some eat none and live longer.
Idiot.
Donal277 6 months ago
first thing i did after watching this is go get some apples...
Deadly699 6 months ago
He's saying that he believes in global warming, and I don't feel comfortable with that 'cause, you know, every time you exhale (breathe out) you're adding CO2 to the atmosphere, and so one way of stopping all that would be by putting an end to your own existence... If you've not read about it all, you're probably finding this assertion retarded. Or maybe I'm wrong, 'cause I'd love to be wrong on that one.
ferencvarosifan2 6 months ago
Animals promote sickness... veggies promote health, that is indisputable? really?
I get the argument that meat industry is bad for earth, that at 6 billion ppl meat we can't all be predominantly meat eaters. But whole bread is health promoting while meat is causing sickness, I'm calling double bullsh*t on this.
KalifUmestoKalifa 7 months ago
@KalifUmestoKalifa Takes a bit of time for it to sink in but the facts are clear. More and more people are getting ill. Why? Its the diet! We have never eaten as much meat as we do now. Never have we eaten less fruits and vegetables as we do now. In the countries that eat the most meat, they get the most sick from cancer, diabetes, strokes, asthma, allergies, etc. You can call bs all you want, it doesn't change the facts.
brahmamurti 5 months ago
"The time has come to stop raising animals industrially, and to stop eating them thoughtlessly". Marvelous quote!
StevenBee2 8 months ago 3
this made me actually get up and eat an apple and an orange. Great video, not all that many videos make me do that.
handplanty 8 months ago
I always watch this talk when I feel like ordering a pizza or going to McDonald's. I've lost more than 20 pounds that way.
DontTouchMyVicodin 8 months ago 26
@DontTouchMyVicodin hahahha thats ingenious!
violet101 7 months ago
@DontTouchMyVicodin Health discussions from the guy named "DontTouchMyVicodin".
Irony.
izisvi 3 months ago
@izisvi
I don't actually take Vicodin. It's just a username.
DontTouchMyVicodin 2 months ago
@DontTouchMyVicodin Mmmm...you get a lot of top comments...
crudhousefull 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TEDtalksDirector
Lets also lock up the people from Montsantos (round up ready soy) who spread their GMO's to the organic farms and then later send snitches to sample the crops.If they find their GMO's they sue.How can anything remain organic,if plant pollen spreads in the wind?Not to get into the GMM's they inject into us,called vaccination:there is no guaranteed immunity,but incidence of allergies etc. and medecine knows too little about late effects.It's about greed without morals,referred to as progress.
kzam717 9 months ago
@kzam717, Absolutely about Monsanto. One of the dirtiest corporations on earth.
LloydChristmas777 2 months ago
Interesting talk. But I disagree with a bunch of cause-effect scenarios he paints: The fast food industry wasn't, like he puts it, created to eliminate excess meat - the meat production went up to cover the increased demand for meat, which was (in part) caused by the fast food chains, and a higher standard of living, and probably many other factors...
stackmagic 9 months ago 2
Him drinking out of a plastic water bottle is a whole other ballgame.
nrbuckner 9 months ago
im eating a salad as i am watching this
jonman45 9 months ago
eating meat/flesh gets you enough energy to go 3 feet, but the energy of plants/fruits gets you farther in life.
Kingdom007Hearts 11 months ago
the sun is the main driver of climate change and it's not just our planet warming up
. more carbon = more plants = more food, get ready to pay your carbon taxes. it's not meat making you fat it's vitamin deficient mass produced processed food that you need to eat more of. this guy is deficient in facts
Anglehound 11 months ago
@Anglehound you are to some extent right... but more carbon does not = more plants. what plants need, and also depending on the species, is often more complicated than that.
snowwolfsabertooth 10 months ago
Notice the Liberal slant which pre-supposes his arguement is correct and all thats left is how to implement the plan. Can't we find an island for Liberals to test their theories out? If I had to take a wild guess, the survivors would all be staunch conservatives by the end of the experiment
Zendout1 11 months ago
@Zendout1 where do you get your weed?
jonman45 9 months ago
thumbs up if u gotta watch this for homework -_-
igetcheeze 11 months ago 4
Wanna bet? At least half of those listening to this will eat at least a quarter pound of meat for dinner. Start acting.
wildwolf111 1 year ago
if you eat unhealthy (processed foods, junk foods) sooner or later cancer / heart disease and so on will get to you. after educating myself about food and health my eating habits have drastically changed. knowledge is power.
EtaCarinaez 1 year ago 3
Fucking finally, i been saying all this fucking time vegetarians are the biggest assholes killing the perfect living thing. plants
Trinitysx 1 year ago 2
@Trinitysx, Then stop eating plants and being an asshole. The irony in you.
LloydChristmas777 2 months ago
Great words about foods! But the global warming / Greenhouse gasses connection in a scam. I think he is just misinformed about that. Take care and eath healthy. I cutted of the crap year ago and now im feeling superb. Cheers!
Lee68Perry 1 year ago
Eating animals that live in their filth and are fed unnatural subsidized grain diets and stuffed with antibiotics and steroids is most likely the cause of the increase in human diseases...not exactly eating meat in general
lucasboden 1 year ago 2
i have a question. when mark says about eating meat half a pound a week (and that we eat the same amount per day), the slide shows red meat. is he talking about meat in general regardless of either red or white?
bobbyjans 1 year ago
Yeah, read your sensationalist script
andrewgruel 1 year ago
Wow, the last 100 years of American diseases in a nutshell. The meat/junk diets are slowly killing our kids and adults. When will this supposedly intelligent country learn that and make the move toward a more plant-friendly diet? It's 2010 and we're not cavemen anymore. Even regular supermarkets now stock veggie or vegan products. Maybe it's time many adults stop making childish faces at vegetarian food choices and try a few of them instead. Please set an example for your kids instead of puttin
veganguy1 1 year ago
@veganguy1 Its has nothing to do with meat consumption. nothing. Not one study has ever shown a link between meat consumption and disease. Ever. He just nicely keeps saying "disease caused by processed carbs, junk food and meat". Nonsense. And pretty shocking someone can be given this stage.
Donal277 6 months ago
if i could interject some reason into this conversation- I am a vegan, an atheist, and a general believer in all of the redundant comments made by this man in his speech- but anyone who would make an absurd categorical statement such as "all scientists now believe in global warming" (which is a false claim), and then a disrespectful and cynical statement such as "george bush even now claims to have seen the light" undercuts the ethos of the noble ideas he is discussing.
boseffis 1 year ago
@boseffis "or at least pretends to".
reinux 1 year ago
Though meat may be chronically over-eaten, it's still the most bio-available source of protein. Eat less, eat better.
foxholeathiest 1 year ago
Every scientist in the world? Yeah right.
karlkid333 1 year ago
Hey all. Check out and get involved with local farmers markets. Find local stores to purchase your foods and stay out of the big box stores like Winco, Costco, and Walmart. Also, and I know a bunch of people are going to get all excited about this one but, stop having litters of children. What ever reason you have for believing you need 3 or more children needs to be reviewed.
pander 1 year ago
That was very interesting.
BodeVanLot 1 year ago
I'm not going to delve into the whole pro or anti meat arguments but I will say this- our obsession with excess and the unlimited has gotten the better of us. It's high time that we learnt of self control, bought locally, paid attention to our bodies and started learning the value of home cooking. This isn't some snide comment about "woman git back in mah kitchen" but that we all need to learn how to cook for ourselves and share this with our families. It's a call for personal responsibility.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
If you ate all raw, nothing cooked, then you would fill up very quickly because of the nutrients haven't been cooked out of them. I read that 50% of vitamins are destroyed from cooking.
bobchillaxd 1 year ago
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cutieandy 1 year ago
I´m from Europe and now I´m kind of proud of eating vegetables every day, after seing this I was impressed!
1987KingDiamond 1 year ago
we're not born craving waffles or skittles, LOL
Amarynthine 1 year ago
If I cut the meat in my diet by half, what do I replace it with? There's only so much salad and broccoli I can stomach!
thefredsociety 1 year ago
@thefredsociety Potatoes, rice, pasta, semolina, oats, polenta, legumes, mushrooms, nuts, fruit, avocado...etc. It is easy to reduce meat intake. Plus the extra variety is both delicious and a refreshing change.
EvolutionaI 1 year ago 17
@thefredsociety Eating vegetarian food is not about replacing meat with vegetables, but rather with other sources of protein. There are so many other dishes you can cook up with legumes, quinoa, eggs, tofu, tempeh, seitan, and nuts-- all protein sources. What it takes is willingness to explore new avenues and possibilities. Indian cooking is incredibly delicious, and much of it is vegetarian.
Canuckette1 1 year ago
@thefredsociety Eating vegetarian food is not about replacing meat with vegetables, but rather with other sources of protein. There are so many other dishes you can cook up with legumes, quinoa, eggs, tofu, tempeh, seitan, and nuts-- all protein sources. What it takes is willingness to explore new avenues and possibilities. Indian cooking is incredibly delicious, and much of it is vegetarian.
Canuckette1 1 year ago
@Canuckette1, I second that.
LloydChristmas777 2 months ago
he had some jokes in there, I was laughing but the audience... crikets
jordyd19 1 year ago
mark, two words, "polar cities" google it
MrDanbloom 1 year ago
@MrDanbloom seen pixar's film WALL-E? this reminds me of that.
MrJaiLeeworthy 1 year ago
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kentuckyangel 1 year ago
AMEN.
dinacarina88 1 year ago 2
DISBAND THE FDA!
69adrummer 1 year ago 2
Cattle should be treated with the utmost respect. Not because they're reincarnated ancestors, but of the product that grows on their shit.
FeelOfFriction 1 year ago 3
Realistically we could get rid of meat altogether.
I know hundreds of people who are now educating their children at a very young age about what happens to a cow and whhere the meat comes from. Its the way the corporations do it get them while they are young. Let the children know where their meat comes from I can tell you it puts them of it for good it might sound cruel but killing them is far worse.
32ndegree 1 year ago
Chickens cows pigs reproduce very fast. you dont eat them you will have a over population problem to deal with . Veggies help the planet and the vegatarians eating away all our plants saying help the enviroment ! oh yea!. We need a good balance of both but mostly plants. Junk food is for people who dont care . Your body needs both. Your digestive system is for both . Dont over look the obvious
yourboycal 1 year ago
@yourboycal
our bodies don't need ANY animal products.
chicken and pigs do reproduce at a rapid rate naturally, yes. however humans pumping them full of hormones and mass producing them is only ADDING to the problem of them becoming overpopulated... which is why " they need to be eaten" to prevent over population...
Your arguments are straw-men to say the least.
coolbeens21 1 year ago
@coolbeens21 Crying straw man already ? You confirmed my point they reproduce very fast. The reasons we pump them full of hormones is to get higher productivity. My point was very simple , if we did not eat any animals then we wouldnt need to put the hormones into place , they would still overpopulate either way . But thank you for proving my point, crying strawman , and making your self more foolish now. Youtube trolls <3
yourboycal 1 year ago
@yourboycal Enjoy your fake <3's. you know nothing about animal products and their affect on our bodies.. a simple google search will do you some good., Grats on your "research"
not only are your arguments straw men, you are literally grasping at straws.
coolbeens21 1 year ago
@coolbeens21 haha like i thought . You know little of what you speak of now that you've been caught with your tongue sticking out =p . Its okay im used to trolls like you on youtube. Who prance around pretending like they know what there talking about then when i call your bluff you resort to personal attack on my intelligence. Classical intellectual bankrupcy =p <3 <3 <3 MWAH loool
yourboycal 1 year ago
I have been a raw foodist for two years, and feel stronger and healthier than in most of all my previous 30 years.
JTCares 1 year ago
"100 years ago there were no national brands"? Campbell's soup was founded in 1869. Or did it not go national until much later? Someone clarify this for me please.
honeybear64 1 year ago
"Less meat, less junk, more plants." I'll take that in my mind!
orangepeelpeel 1 year ago
@orangepeelpeel i meant keep that in mind
orangepeelpeel 1 year ago
Chicken and Beef is soo good.. EAAAT EM ALLL!!!!
GoofyBoa 1 year ago
Take 20 minutes and gain understanding why "we" as a people eat the way we do. Get an education and laugh at the same time.... I call that Win Win.
vjmiyagi 1 year ago
Interesting presentation. Yet I find there is a more important point to be made. It is not just the over consumption of meat, as a food item, that is the problem. The true tragedy of our time is OVER CONSUMPTION. Next time you walk along a commercial street, count the number of restaurants or food courts or coffee shops,... We have become glutons. And our body mass index bears witness to our greedy weak mind.
ManACanadian 1 year ago
he lost credibility from me when he said that "every scientist" has concluded the actuality of the "GLobal warming" scheme ((scam)). using words like all and every, is awfully presumptuous and therefore logically discrediting. never assume else you will make an ass out of you and me
bramthewell 1 year ago
@bramthewell . There is a lack of scientific honesty in your way of judging Bittman. It is black and white. Just because Bittman asserted "all scientists agree..." you reject all his presentation and points. If that is the case, then I am sorry to say that you are guilty of the same shortcoming that you accuse Bittman of.
ManACanadian 1 year ago
WTF (this has all been said, better, a decade ago)
i love "the minimalist" but this incarnation by bittman is repulsive. andrew weil + al gore = mark douchebag bittman.
you're not a scientist, bittman! stick to what you know!!!
angryniggah 1 year ago
margerine was invented in 1813
captaindrywal123 1 year ago
...at the pump & elsewhere. So their providing us the energy we use is dirtier, filthier than our use of that energy, to the point that our food choices are more polluting. Hmmm, huh?
reforest4fertility 1 year ago
@reforest4fertility It's odd that Bittman says livestock production contributes more to greenhouse gasses than transportation, since transportion is PART of livestock production. Shipping the grains from the field to the feedlot, transporting the cattle from the feedlot to the slaughterhouse, shipping the meat from the slaughterhouse to the processing plant, shipping the finished product from the processing plant to the supermarket - I'd say transportation is part of meat production.
honeybear64 1 year ago
Whoa dude (Bittman), notice how fast he blows past the hugest point, "after energy production, livestock is the 2nd highest contributor of greenhouse gases". OK, I know his focus here is on our choice of fuel 4 humans (livestock) and not on what we've chosen as our primary energy source, oil. I know he said it so fast & touched on it so lightly, but after all this is the bigger bomb. He wasn't saying "our energy use", but the production, extraction, processing to the point of our use at...
reforest4fertility 1 year ago
People that say you can't build muscle from a meat free diet are genuinely very, very, very, very thick. The worlds largest mammals are all vegan. Rhinos for example. Lets see Mr.Bigmeateater tame down a fucking rhino hahahaha!
MyRamona 1 year ago
I'm an Indian and people like this bozo is what makes Americans stupid to the rest of the world. I've eaten a lot McNuggets and all that "spicy" stuff he claims and that is utter nonsense. The amount of any spice is any american food is NEGLIGABLE compared to the spice in much of the rest of the subcontinent.
This guy is typical liberal propagandist.
cheapshot1234 1 year ago
@cheapshot1234 Indian food certainly contains a much wider and more flavorful variety of spices than American food (I love Indian food and actually cook it quite often), but I think what Bittman was referring to was the fact that the processed food industry packs tons of sugar, salt, and artificial flavoring agents into food to make it taste better than it really is. I agree that "spice" was probably not his best choice of words, though.
honeybear64 1 year ago
When he said that "all scientists agree that global warming is a given", he gave himself away as one of those radicals. There are more than 30,000 scientists who have signed a petition that state that Global warming is is over hyped and alarmist. This guy is one of those loonies who subtly creates a political climate for control. Who the hell is this guy to create a climate where they force us on what to eat. There is ample evidence that global warming is a big hoax
cheapshot1234 1 year ago
I'm pretty sure there's actually more evidence for global cooling.
MyRamona 1 year ago
I knew chicken nuggets were strange.
OH god - everytime i watch something about food - I become vegetarian for a week.
rsacode 1 year ago
The Steve Jobs of food
jacobh1995 1 year ago
People meat is good when it is raw not coocked boiled but raw like vegetables and fruits.all kind of food no matter vegetable or meat is bad when it is coocked or boiled.
loyaldude7 1 year ago
Global warming is for real guys. Vegetarianism is the way to go forward. Eat fresh food and stay healthy. Muscles can be made by vegetable protein too.
anujkhare1234 1 year ago
Just read the comments and seen a lot of people saying Global Warming doesn't exist.
Can anyone back this up please? I'd like more info.
Thanks,
Steven
MagicianOnAMission 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
A little bit of his research is correct and he uses that to establish some credibility. But most of his talk is pure liberal bunk. Clearly he hates America and our capitalist system which feeds him. See how easily these non thinkers jump on any bandwagon.
He was one of Obama's biggest supporters after Edwards dropped out. He hates the word profit. What a socialist.
rivronjack 1 year ago
When can we "just live"? You mean without dying from cancer, diabetes, heart disease etc? Perhaps when McDonalds goes out of business...
indabushwoman 1 year ago
Flying fish from Chile "too much of a carbon footprint?....His DUMBASS is too much of a carbon footprint.....Have we gone this far....when can we just live...He's got a lot of nerve even bringing up the Holocaust within this stupid ass politically oriented diatribe. And there is NO methane issue with cows. Fucking new york times. Just work and produce something you douchebag, stop your yapping, idiot!
h10music 1 year ago
what an idiot
01loosenut 1 year ago
While we don't feed rainforest to cattle, the forests are clear cut so the land can be used to grow grain for livestock. It takes 13 pounds of grain to get one pound of beef, nevermind how much water is used in the entire process from birth to death.
deanquartz 1 year ago 28
I'm sorry, but I've never met a vegan or vegetarian that didn't look emaciated and malnourished or seemingly invariably lethargic. You need to eat meat and in order to build muscle (this is for athletes) you need protein.
Masterphan 1 year ago
then you haven't met me. i've been vegetarian for over 7 months now, and in fact i've reversed my hypothyroidism and no longer have to take medication that i would otherwise have had to for the rest of my life. and you DO NOT need meat to build muscle. sure it is packed full of protein, but it isn't the only source of it. for example: Charlene Wong, Paavo Nurmi, Chris Campbell, Carl Lewis, Surya Bonaly, Debbie Lawrence, Murray Rose, Al Oerter, Edwin Moses, Leroy Burrell, all olympic atheletes.
newusername01ha 1 year ago
I'm sure you can find all sorts of sources of plant protein, but it's far more difficult. I've never heard of a body builder that was a vegan or vegetarian and I'll gladly do the research if you give me a name. Some of those people are amazing athletes, but that's a very small group of people in a very large pool. You'll always find exceptions, but that still doesn't prove that meat is the culprit for any diseases.
You've only been vegetarian for 7 months. Wait a couple years.
Masterphan 1 year ago
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Brendan Brazier, Professional Ironman triathlete; Andreas Cahling, Swedish champion bodybuilder; Desmond Howard, professional football player; Bill Manetti, power-lifting champion; Bill Pearl, four-time Mr. Universe; Stan Price, world weightlifting record holder (bench press); Dave Scott, six-time winner of the Ironman triathlon; Art Still, Buffalo Bills and Kansas City Chiefs MVP defensive end; Mac Danzig, UFC champion.
I've been a vegan for years and my health is just fine.
honeybear64 1 year ago
I don't know why my comment was flagged as spam. The list I gave was of world-class top-of-their-game athletes who achieved their successes while on a vegan or vegetarian diet, and this was to refute the notion that gets repeated ad nauseum in this commentary and elsewhere that vegetarians are all weak, sick, frail, emaciated, lethargic, and generally unhealthy. Honest facts presented in refutation of false notions may be disconcerting, but they are not "spam".
honeybear64 1 year ago
It's entirely untrue to say that we don't need animal products. There is no way to acquire vitamin B12 through plant products AND the body uses protein from animal products more efficiently than plant protein.
Another thing that is completely misleading about this talk is that he is saying that heart disease is caused by meat products and that's just utterly false. Refined carbs and corn are the culprit, not meat.
Masterphan 1 year ago
@Masterphan We "need" animal products? I eat no animal products at all and I'm healthier than I was before going vegan. B12 is not made by animals or plants, but by bacteria in the soil. We wash the soil off the plants we eat, cows don't - that's how they get B12. I like my veggies washed for sanitary reasons, so I take a a standard multivitamin containing B12. Plant protein is perfectly well assimilable by the body and doesn't come packaged with saturated fat the way animal protein does.
honeybear64 1 year ago
@honeybear64 Complete proteins in plant products are very limited in essential amino acids in comparison to their animal product counterparts. Saturated fat is not bad for you. There is no correlation between consumption of fat and health risks. Look it up on Pubmed. As far as the B12 thing goes, we don't eat those bacteria so we have to get it indirectly and that means meat products or supplements. Also, those athletes were not products of their vegan/vegetarianism.
Masterphan 1 year ago
@Masterphan Few plants contain all amino acids in balance by themselves (with quinoa, amaranth, and buckwheat as notable exceptions), but no one eats just one thing. Eating a variety of vegs and grains ensures a complete amino acid profile. For example, the amino acids limited in beans are present in rice, and vice-versa. So put them together and the result is a complete protein. Meat is a convenient SINGLE source of complete protein, but not therefore a superior one in terms of the total diet.
honeybear64 1 year ago
@honeybear64 It absolutely is superior. Eating several plant proteins together and saying that it's a complete protein is just fine but the amount of protein that is acquired through plant products is far less than through meat products. In response to "no one eats just one thing," meat products can be eaten with plant products to acquire other vitamins and minerals that are less plentiful in meat products. Being a vegan/vegetarian is limiting and an inferior way to acquire complete proteins.
Masterphan 1 year ago
@Masterphan You admit that complete protein can be obtained from plants and say the problem is that plants don't provide enough of it. So the "superiority" of protein in meat is simply due to quantity? The amount of protein we need is a matter of debate, but sufficiency can be observed clinically. Hair and nails healthy and growing? Healing quickly from illness and injury? Not sick often? Muscle mass preserved? Then you're getting enough protein.
honeybear64 1 year ago
@Masterphan The amount of protein we need varies by source (Am. Jour. of Clin. Nutrition says 2.5% of daily calories, Natl. Acad. of Sciences says 4.5-6.0%, Natl. Research Council says 8%), but they're all below the amount eaten by the average American, and are easily met on a vegan or vegetarian diet. Chicken breast tenders have 5.5 g protein/100 calories, cooked quinoa has 4 g/100 calories - less, to be sure, but not radically less. Tofu even has 13.5 g/100 calories!
honeybear64 1 year ago
@honeybear64 Chicken is meat. Sorry, but vegetarianism is nothing but a cheater's version of veganism. Acquiring enough protein without meat is just more difficult and there's no denying that. I never said that you couldn't eat plant food with meat food. Vegetarians and vegans are limited so my argument still stands that meat is a superior source of protein.
Masterphan 1 year ago
@Masterphan Uh, hello? I know chicken is meat, I'm not an idiot. My point was that chicken has protein, but not RADICALLY more protein than some plant sources. You still haven't defined/clarified what you meat by "limited".
honeybear64 1 year ago
@honeybear64 Seriously? Do I have to define what is limited in a vegetarian or vegan diet? We are not having this conversation.
Masterphan 1 year ago
@Masterphan I'm also not sure what you mean by the athletes I mentioned not being "products of their vegetarianism". Mixed martial arts champ Mac Danzig became a strict vegan in 2004, and since then he has racked up 15 wins and only 5 losses. In the last year I traded my desk job for one involving physical labor and I've gained muscle mass while sticking to my strict vegan diet, so veganism obviously doesn't inhibit growth. So I honestly don't get the whole "we need animal protein" argument.
honeybear64 1 year ago
@honeybear64 If everyone went on a vegan or vegetarian diet and had similar results, then I'd be inclined to believe you, but most athletes eat meat and there are only a few exceptions. That has a lot to do with predisposition and genetics. Those athletes could have just been great athletes. I know that I'm just speculating on this particular post, but the fact of the matter is that most athletes eat meat and until those same athletes obtain similar results through vegetarianism, I disagree.
Masterphan 1 year ago
@Masterphan Traditional rural Asians eat a low protein, high carbohydrate diet, and their rates of heart disease, stroke, diabetes, and certain cancers (like colon cancer) are FAR lower than ours. The Okinawans, for instance, eat very little meat and virtually no eggs or dairy products, and they have the longest life expectancy in the world. And it's not all due to genetics, either - when these people adopt a Western pattern diet, we see their rates of these diseases begin to approach ours.
honeybear64 1 year ago
@honeybear64 So you're saying that Asian people, like myself, have evolved to have a lower insulin response and are able to use carbs more readily than most other cultures and vegetarianism is the reason that we're healthier? That's absurd. I don't agree with the idea that meat is the cause of any of those diseases. I have good reason to believe carbs are the culprit. Those pockets of people that live long are a result of their community and diet. Find me a regular vegan that lives that long.
Masterphan 1 year ago
@Masterphan No, I'm precisely NOT saying that evolution/genetics has anything to do with it, since when rural Asians becomes wealthier, move to cities, etc, and adopt a more Western pattern diet, they start suffering from the same diseases Americans suffer from.
honeybear64 1 year ago
@honeybear64 Again. I disagree with the notion that meat products have anything to do with these diseases. I have very good reason and have done the scientific research to come to the conclusion that refined carbs are the main culprit concerning those diseases.
Masterphan 1 year ago
@Masterphan
Actually there are carcinogens (cancer causing chemicals) activated in animal products (particularly dead animal flesh, aka meat.) when they are heated... apparently your research has lead you astray.
coolbeens21 1 year ago
@coolbeens21 Apparently you didn't read all the research yourself. It's only in overly cooked meat and it's not known to cause anything. It's only shown to have traces of carcinogens that are known to cause those cancers. It doesn't actually cause the cancer itself. I'm sorry but you're wrong. Don't try to be a scientist if you're not one. Correlation is not causation. Your lack of research has lead you astray.
Masterphan 1 year ago
The enlightened individual is way ahead of the curve and clearly on the right track. The information he seeks to spread is widely known among many groups of people. I can only hope is wisdom becomes adopted by more societies for all our good.
Agoateeman 1 year ago 29
Global warming is a fucking scam.
zach2589 1 year ago
Look of ,,copa teil 2" please
pollylate 1 year ago
this better be a joke... gave up watching after he said "cow farts". use common sense
TheAtomicMango 1 year ago
This is a known fact about the cow methane problem you dipshit.
frymastermeat 1 year ago
@frymastermeat - there is no cow methane "problem" you dipshit. just because something's fact doesn't mean it's a problem.
TheAtomicMango 1 year ago
To all the people that posted a negative comment about this video: first of all go watch food Inc. Second of all, all you guys are ignorant fatasses who love to eat their lives away. And third, most of th stuff you guys eat cause cancer.
RbO0 1 year ago
we kill and eat cows but they kill us in a long run too
bigbearfilms 1 year ago
Perhaps we should eat the poor. That would reduce their carbon footprint, and it'd go great with fava beans and a nice chianti. ;-)
HotsauceOverdog 1 year ago
what a hideous statement!! the poor make much less of a carbon footprint than someone like you!!! maybe they should eat you!! then your nastiness would be history too!!!
sunshinedaydream10 1 year ago
Golly, maybe we should eat people without a sense of humor as well. The world would be a happier place!
HotsauceOverdog 1 year ago
Wow I just got a craving for a coke,whopper,and skittles.....oh btw this guys a dumbass....who pays him to speak and further more who actually listens....sad this is partially why America is becomeing dumb..
Blaksonic 1 year ago
wrong! America is becoming more and more dumb because of people like you, who are brainwashed by the propaganda of the big corporations who are ONLY out to make money, at the cost of the health of the people and the planet.
sunshinedaydream10 1 year ago
you kids are funny.
sightlust 1 year ago
So they are being bred a shit ton, should make up for all the Buffalo that were massacred and almost made extinct in the past few hundred years. Who's to say there are more cattle on the earth now than there ever was. Also we don't feed rain forests to cattle, we feed them corn based products made on farms.
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ImplodedToad 1 year ago
Can you say "Liberal"?
The Sky is falling.
Andy Kaufman was a vegetarian and he died of Cancer.
How many times does he contradict his last statement??
I'm getting a bumper sticker - "save the Farts"!
u2ubpw7 1 year ago
@u2ubpw7 Agreed, scare mongering left wing elitist who wants to control us. He might have a point on junk food being unhealthy -duh- but to Hell with him outcrying how evil it is. Many scientists do not believe in global warming, cow farts are harmless unless you're right next to it. Pewee! Meat is a resouce, I like animals too, but people need to eat. If this asshole had his way, food prices and choices would skyrocket our lifestyles would deteriorate.
mojothemigo 1 year ago
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3603mailmaster 1 year ago
what a douche bag, he is attending too many cocktail parties in manhatten. Global Warming is a Myth, a lie. The numbers are doctored to fit the narrative time and time again.companies Like coca cola helped build this country. Go Live in Sweden you big communist
3603mailmaster 1 year ago
Lol, not to mention that Global Warming idiots are saying that it's causing LESS snow. But NOW they're saying it causes MORE. It can't be both because that would be a contradiction! Too bad people have lost the ability to think for themselves.
If I could create a lie so big that people would believe it and it would make me millions, would I tell that lie? You are damned right I would and I'd live happily off the stupidity of others. Just like they're doing to all you idiots that believe in it.
saj19811981 1 year ago
Also, here's a little known fact: the average surface temperature on Earth was hotter more than 400 years ago when compared to today's average surface temperature.
Now, I'm sure all the cars and pollution factories 400+ years ago helped contribute to that by quite a bit!
Again, people like the guy in the video makes a ton of money off people that are gullible and will believe anything they're told. Ever wonder why all these Global Warming scientists are being busted in their lies lately?
saj19811981 1 year ago
He raises a few good points in the video. but offers nothing practical. Oh yes, we should stop producing animals industrially, but by his own admission we cant really do that considering the sheer numbers of them in demand, and that's at current population levels. China's industrial production of just about everything is exploding as well, as it will continue to do. even were we all to cut our meat intake by 50% it wouldn't eliminate the need for large scale (aka industrial) animal farms.
mrmelkor1 1 year ago
I guess what he offers that's practical is the advice to cut way back on the consumption of animal products. As he says, 50% is only a start. Granted, that's not likely to happen on a large scale any time soon. But of course 50 years ago, the idea of any significant number of people recycling would have seemed a silly notion, yet now it's a common practice. It's hard to be optimistic but I try!
Yes, there's not much we can do about the situation in China. We have to clean up our own mess.
honeybear64 1 year ago
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Smetch 1 year ago
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ANGARA0603 1 year ago
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tjcheem 1 year ago
This guy is a fraud. Is precedent he sets states that all the scientists believe in global warming. That is a straight out LIE!!
Global warming is a fraud.
LIfe style diseases I would agree with him.
But I would be very careful and him pushing his leftist idealogy on everyone else. He is worse than the bible pushers knocking on the doors
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ANGARA0603 1 year ago
how bout pork?
i've been eating beef and coke for a long time i think its causing my daily headaches he got a point.
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