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  • ''America has legitimate Causus Beli with Iran, that goes back a long way''

    This is the first time I've watched Martin Amis.. is it normal that he would utter such an ignorant remark about the Middle-East?

  • state of ruth kelly

  • It's fairly telling how in awe of Martin Amis the whole panel are, Davis repeating his Latin and Randall quoting his book.

  • I get the impression that questions are being asked not for want of an answer, but for want of being seen as an intellectual.

  • Every QT is guilty of the same flaws, making it hardly worth watching:

    1. The questioners are usually ignorant (and occasionally stupid) and as such ask terrible questions.

    2. The speakers are usually a mixed bag; never are all of them good.

    3. Dimbleby is a weak moderator (although it's not his fault he makes the best of a bad lot).

    4. Too many questions are crammed in, making the answers short and unsatisfying.

  • I don't entirely agree. I think that the concept of the show is very good, and that it's generally more civil(well...not /always/), intelligent and entertaining than anything comparable on American or Canadian television.

    That said, all of your criticisms are valid. I just don't feel as strongly on those points as you do. I think that the questions as well as the speakers are hit-or-miss, but it can be quite good at times.

  • Bush not talking to Iran? Excuse me but it is Iran that has refused the negotiations with the Six Party Talks (including the US) on three separate occasions!

    You Brits don't only stick to simple cliques do you?

  • you forgot that when bush came to power he incuded iran in his axis of evil would you talk to america if you were branded that no i dont think so you americans got a short memory

  • Oh I think so.  They've called us the "Great Satan" for decades. Talk about a short memory pal.

  • bit of a difference between name calling then illegally invading a country kiling innocents big difference my friend if iran gets neuclear you can not moan how many have you got remind me?

  • I ain't your friend kid... And I know how to spell "nuclear."

    "illegally invading a country kiling innocents"

    Right.. 22 UN resolutions against Saddam Hussein and we're the illegal ones? Look at Resolution 1441 - material breach of Resolution 687 which allows use of force against Saddam under Resolution 678 for, as you say, "illegally invading a country" (Iran in case you don't follow)...

    Now, if Iran gets "NEUCLEAR" as you put it - you'll be supporting them in destroying Israel? Or words?

  • yes the UN resolutions did not support invading the country thats the point it wanted weapons inspectors to keep going and only if saddam stopped it then they could go in he didnt he allowed them in and when they couldnt find anything, they still invaded it would not have made a difference they had the intention to do it, Iran should not have these weapons either however pakistan and india have also got these weapons and they do not like each other so its not just one issue

  • You are wrong - the UN resolutions DID support invading the country - read them instead of just saying what your friends and media say...

    And so you think Iran shouldn't have the weapons - good... It doesn't matter what names they were called by Bush then does it? We're done.

  • sorry it took so long to reply when your answering a stupid person you got to take time lol theresolution states that weapons inspectors are to enter the country and look for the weapons if they do find and saddam refuses to either step down or give them up an invasion wi happen one fact your not stateing when america and the UK invaded the weapons inspectors were still there look it up before you comment you fail!!!!!

  • You writing, and your incorrect history, as well as your stupid ass logic, wouldn't get you a pass in a class full of 14 year old kids.

    Fail... You would literally, fail.

    Now go learn what material breach means.

  • the history might not tie in with your deluded version but try actually reading a book or googe it either way when you have some idea about what your saying then you can comment fail!!!!!

  • Brilliant response.

  • why thakyou your welcome

  • @loudman12 You should capitalize all your words.

  • @loudman12 but at least they know how to punctuate.

  • very weak comeback if you ask me if thats all you got to rebuke me then thats quite funny

  • Thanks for adding this:)

    I remember watching it at the time & remember thinking the relativism & stupidity of the audience was frightening.

  • Hmmm..... I've always had a bit of a thing about Mariella Frostrup.

  • she's gorgeous....

    I like her hairdo

  • She's the thinking man's crumpet...sigh

  • SHUT UP

  • @Chaffinch4 yep..

  • cutting edge debate??

    ........and sleep

  • Ruth Kelly has the most annoying voice. Martin Amis is indeed a great intellectual, but he is evidently not a historian, as he fails to take account of the even greater cassus belli Iran has with the U.S.

    When did Iran ever arrange a coup to overthrow a U.S. leader?

  • Iraq war discussion

  • Amis is a million miles from a fool. He's ludicrously intelligent. Spectacularly intelligent.

  • you're the fool, boy. you're digging yourself a hole...

  • Hold on hold on, so because Iran doesn't like Al Qaeda, that means we should tolerate the subjugation of women, and annihilation of gay rights. I'm with Christopher Hitchens on this one: 'not on my watch'. It's not racist, it's reasonable. And standing up to totalitarianism isn't cowardly. Hiding behind apparent 'liberalism' and its shoddy modern facade is cowardly. Where did the Left's principles get sold to?

  • well said...the modern left does itself no favours

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  • @cancerparty This is very simple: What happens in Iran is none of your business. Also, what the Asian lad in the baseball cap said (@5.30) was most pertinent of all and, in an ideal world, would have ended the yap from the pointless talking heads on this panel.

  • I don't necessarily disagree with you but, with your reasoning, the same could be said about Germany between 1933 and 1945.

  • @joejjohnston With respect I don't think Iran is the threat that Nazi Germany was. I've noticed a lot of people making this comparison between Islam and nazism; I have to say the comparison seems like a weak one to me.

  • @cancerparty Ok lets bomb those women and gays to freeeedom! 

  • Thanks for posting.

  • *yawn

  • Why is Ruth Kelly doing an impression of Victoria Wood doing an impression of a Blair Babe? And why does Martin Amis look like he left a drink unfinished in the Green Room, and desperately wants to return to it? I haven't seen a man so visibly bored since I last took a picture of myself listening to a Hazel Blears speech!

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