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  • God the wire management in these HP computers is terrible. I open mine up the first time and the guts are spilling out. Anyone know how to safely remove the personal media drive bay? I need more room inside the case for future upgrades..

  • umm and how does the easy back up work? what does it back up to?

  • Is it possible to add a higher video card in it and/or can it hold dual video cards

  • i just like whats inside :P

  • can you use DDR3 RAM On it?

  • "TONSS! of quick launch keys" << 12 actually

  • @jdcrispe95 16 actually.

  • some body know wha it means the blue light in the front betwen the media drive please

  • i need 3 usb's one for my headsett ,mouse and keyboard ... ill just buy the Packard Bell iPower think it will do the same job if its worse or better pls reply 

  • lolz... i love how they never say anything bad about the products they review.

  • its got a weird piece of plastic here... LOL

  • will a Geforce 9800 GTX+ fit in here?

  • i have it and i love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Slow graphics :(

  • @jdowney429 Slow graphics? Dude it's the HD 4850. If you don't know what that is, it is one of the top of the line cards for the HD 4000 series which competed against the GTX 260 and 9800GTX+. In terms of price and performance, this card blew BOTH the GTX 260 and 9800GTX+ out the water. The HD 4850 was the reason why AMD became much more popular after 2008. I don't know what you're talking about, you SLOW much??

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  • How is it that I get more memory on this computer?

  • I have it ! :) nice computer

  • @Vadosska What kind of games are good for it?

  • I have one :D

  • they need to review the HP Pavilion Elite e9120y

  • Haha what a combination! A single slot HD4850 and tons of messy cables and no space for the video card

  • how much does this cost currently?

  • I have an Elite m9574sc and im thinking of getting a new card for it (Have a 9800GT) i just wondering the best card that would fitt in it.

    Any suggestions? any one?

  • hmm, in fact i do! since i have the m9510f, their all the same cases, i upgraded to the XFX GTS 250, BUT! a XFX GTX 275 core edition is the best one that will fit, due to it's core edition head sinc that's smaller.

  • Oh BTW if your hp elite has a asus motherboard, call Asus and tell will tell you the never made that Motherboard. It was a "special" motherboard.

  • Do not buy any HP Elite!!! I bought one only to discover it is the biggest piece of crap. Have you hp elite owners experienced any of these problems yet? slow start time? random lock ups? replacing hard drives? Just go to HP websites and look at the forums on the elite computers. pages and pages of problems and how hp sends there computer back "Repaired" and they arrive back with the same problems.

  • same with mine its very quite

  • the inside looks like trash. messy cable management, weird placing of stuff, not a good one!

  • is the m9800 good for gaming?

  • to redlightdistrictpimp:

    processors make no noise whatsoever,

  • i hate the fact that its clustered, not really spacious if you have big graphics card

  • I own the m9515f. It's basically the same except my hard drive is only 750gigs and my cpu uses an AMD Phenom X4 quad with 8 Gigs of DDR2. My graphics card is weak as I have an nvidia 9600GS with 768MB of GDDR2. oh..mine also came with a blueray read/write player so that was a plus. My upgrade strategy is to upgrade the graphics card and power supply. I'm thinking of getting the nvidia gtx285 and the corsair 750tx psu. Thats a little under a $500 upgrade.

  • I bought this at costco costomized with a nvidia geforce 260 with 1.8 gb of memory, 12 gb of memory, intel core i7-920 at 2.66 ghz, and 1 tb hard drive

  • That sounds like the description of the HP Elite HPE-180t. How do you like it? Is it really quiet? I am considering one.

  • @airplaneman121 is there enough room for a nvidia 9800gt?

  • Isn't this a BTX motherboard?

  • I believe it's a Micro-ATX because it has 4 expansion slots.

  • Why all brands of PCs are cheap in US unlike in Asia??I really want to get there..

  • are, quad cores noisy? if you want a silent computer is better to stick with dual? maybe they make the same sound... cos i am in the library and this computer is faster than mine and it's a dual core

  • if its anything like my m9252p q6700, you WILL NOT BE ABLE TO OVERCLOCK THE CPU. I'm stuck with a crap 2.66 GHz which could be OC'd to 3.5 GHz or more. If you are a gamer, look for more options.

  • just change the motherboard :)

  • @L0000000000000L Is the motherboard bad?

  • @AlexBoy123HBG No, but the bios that comes with HP desktops does not support cpu tweaking features!

  • @L0000000000000L Oh okay, Do you think it is possible to change chassi? i have a Hp pavilion elite m9657

    It also have that motherboard, I want to buy a new chassi cuz the cablemanetment sucks, and i have recently bought a new psu and a graphics card for it,

    and its not getting cooled enough 2 fans will not do for that monster

  • @AlexBoy123HBG as long as the motherboard form factor is ATX, I don't see why not!

  • @L0000000000000L than il buy a new chassi :D

  • @L0000000000000L Hey im back, the thing is you cant remove the side off the case :S so what do you think? can you still remove the motherboard and all that

  • that thing looks like shit inside

  • I get that cpu

  • HP Pavilion Elite m9789sc is the best !

  • yeahh..from outside that case look so beautiful..

    look inside just like shit..!!

  • Is the HP Pavilion Elite m9656sc good?

    Ill buy that PC if its good for gaming and multimedia, like: Counter Strike 1.6, Call Of Duty 4-5-6 and you know, programs. Is this suitable for me? PS. I will get free Vista to Windows 7 upgrade for free.

  • I'm getting the Pavilion Elite e9180f today. The specs are better than this model but it doesnt have a built in TV Tuner. I have an external one so that doesnt matter. It must be REALLY great for gaming.

  • is it really good for gaming cuz i am planing to buy this computer too!

  • GET IT!!! i just got it like a week ago and TRUST ME! I'm in love with it.

  • mouse and keyboard is not USB

  • if it really matters get a usb key borad and muse the reason this one is not is to free up the usb slots

  • i just got this and it works great, plays games well

  • im getting a hp pavilion elite m9552p. can anybody tell me the graphics and ram on this model? btw the processor is intel core 2 quad Q8200 2.33GHz.

  • are you guys idiots entertinment desktop not gaming

  • thats a weird ass case

  • I want a HP Pavilion Elite with 9800 Geeforce with 512 MB dedicated graphics, or 130 GT with 1 GB dedicated Graphic. I need it for Crysis.

    Can't wait for those damn GTX 300 series.

  • dude if you can afford only those shit graphic cards how do you think you can afford the 300 gtx series. And i have mmuch better graphic card than you.

  • Dude the 300 GTX Series will bot come out until 2011, with DX 11. And WHAT 9800 GeForce sucks, haha. You must be out of your mind. And I will buy a N-Force 3-way SLI for either 3 9800 GeForce's, or 3 GTX 285's.

    And by the way I can afford it. And what's your Graphic Card?

    For your information, I don't really need alot of these fancy Graphic Cards even a 8800 GeForce is enough, cause the only game I roughly play now is World of Warcraft. I need an 8800 GeForce+ for the 3D NVIDIA Vision Glasses.

  • no it will come out on end of 2009 dumbass and 3d nvidia vision glasses are for people who wants to get blind. And as well you would need a fucking samsung 120hz monitor with shit resolution. Besides if you only play some nerdy wow,starwars halo shit why would you need a gtx 285?

  • I'm the dumbass?

    2011 is the dat that was anounced for DX11, before 3 days or something, go check the release date over again, they prospone it every time. And by the way I didn't say I need GTX 285, I said 9800 GeForce, or 130 GT.

  • I kinda regret buying an HP.

  • my pc will kick the ass of this hp shit

  • DO NOT BUY ANY HP PAVILION ELITE PRODUCTS !

    The reason is i bought it and with 2weeks the qraphics card started messing , and there's many other mistakes , BUILD YOUR OWN OR LET SOMEONE BUILD A COMPUTER FOR YOU , you cant remove that 64bit vista , and the mouse is shit because the clicker is on full mouse.

  • seems like a nice rig, but gateway is epic better

  • GATEWAY? DO U DO DRUGS?

  • Um no, i don't do drugs and there is nothing wrong with gateway

  • Gateway and eMachines are like the ambigiously gay duo! They fucking suck ass!

  • he probably is i would rather go fro the compaq then gateway

  • top of the line no I7

  • cable management in that is TERRIBLE!...like god..

  • the graphics card isnt that bad. the rest is shit

  • WTF thats my keyboard and mouse!! my keyboard came with a old ass HP and this is new?? lol either my keyboard is top of the line or HP are some cheap bastards lolol

  • lol dude all company built computers like that use cheap components XD

  • thos Greeeedy bayysterds!! lolol

  • i rather just build my own computer which i did with high qulaity parts =]

  • Lol i mis typed They all use cheap conponents

  • no sli...boring...

  • that computer is terrible

  • why

  • LoL, my rig is better, its custom built..lol, but i have an HP laptop, very nice!

  • The nvidia quadro clip at the end of the video lools sick. Very nice computer for an oem and also good video.

  • at;least there using an asus

  • sry with core i7 out it is not top of the line

  • 2.5 ghz quad? shit i7 = 3.2 ghz 8 core, what are these people talking to apes?

  • it have got only 4 cores

  • YOU CAN ADD ANOTHER QUAD CORE

  • That's some good looking cable managment...

  • lol

  • What's with all the screaming specs? Nobody that buys OEM computers is going to need that much RAM, that much processing power, that much graphics, that much compatibility. Damn, this is for the clueless rich bastard.

  • Uhh...I have one of these. This is for 64 bit Vista which supports programs using up to 8 Gig RAM. Just over a 1,000 bucks and mid line Multimedia entry box. Compared to most quad core $3,000 mutlimedia boxes..."screaming" its not.

  • For something by HP aimed at consumers it is. You don't (or at least I don't) see a lot of 4850's being shipped in oem computers.

  • That RAM is just a selling point. No consumer is going to use more than 2GB at any given point.

  • Could be much better. Wth, it's HP.

  • That's one nasty wiring job.

  • maybe its expensive but it really worths for the performance

  • Q9300?what a waste of money ._.

    besides...8g of ram is totally pointless..you could spare the price of the adicional 4g and buy an HD4870 to replace the 4850

  • Each time they want to explain how great the pc is, they say either tons of ram, or alot of ram!!!! WTF

    If I get a PC with high end qualities, but i get it with 1 gig of ram, I will NOT be cheap of spending a CRAZY AMOUNT of 400 dollars on 12 gigs of ram man, RAM IS NOT THAT GREAT DEAL!!!!

  • hp's r pieces of shit, there the ford Tauruses of desktops and laptops.

  • i was getting excited with this computer until i saw the ATI card in it......ATI = Epic fail u .u

    with Nvidia would have been a lot better

  • the ATI cards courently PWN the market... but when the GT300 series comes out from Nvidia(Q4 this year)... they'll be on top for a fiew years again!

  • i didn't know about the GT300 serie, nice, but i don't know if they are going to be better than the HD5000 serie from AMD :P

  • It's been said that the GT300 series will be like when the 8800 series came out :O which sounds very promising...

  • yeah the price and specs maybe pwn but in performance Nvidia crushes ATI

  • Best card for the money is the 4870 x2

    and a nice kombiantion is to put that on a p45 board with a good CPU... that's when you get alot for your money... altought if you want crossfire X58 is the best choise...

  • Your all sending flak towards ATi, but weither you choose to accept it or not, the 4850's are pretty damn good :)

  • i never thought that such a well known computing company such as HP would make a computer with such bad cable management! wouldv'e taken them 10 minutes to make that computer!

  • not a nice mouse! I Have this keyboard and mouse. the mouse sucks! it click really loud! i recommend a deathadder =p

  • the 4850 is very outdated in the scheme of things.

    GTx295>Gtx285>Gtx260(216)>

    hd48701gb>gtx260(192)>

    hd4870 512mb>4850

    n theres randomly 4850(2gb)

    realistically because Ati can't match Nvidia they make more affordable dollars per FPS card i.e 4870 but maybe if ATi fucked off gtx285 would cost as much as a gtx295 and a gtx295 would be as much as a gtx285..

    you get what i mean?

    ATi arn't garbage but i think they rise prices on the best cards because they make the cheap ones so cheap

  • My desktop is an HP, (about 3 years old) and it has been VERY solid. Of course - I've upgraded MUCH of the hardware, but it's very solid. I like my case best of any I have owned. PLENTY of room for expansion.

  • that was a wire management mess in there.

  • Horrible!

    From an OEM?!?

  • I have the same keyboard. It came with a different kind of computer though. It preety messed up right now, I acdentally broke my space button and all the quick launch key don't work anymore because I acidentally executed a batch file in the keyboard program folder. It's a pretty good keyboard though.

  • DDR2....Meh.

  • no vista ,why did they put that in there?

  • wow, for £700+ i would expect a little more cable management, these fuckers are just thrown together as quick as possible. nice looking computer though

  • Not bad for Hewlett Packard

  • Its the same thing at m9000z (I own) but with quad core and better graphics. Sane case same PSU and so on.

  • wow that's horrible cable management.

  • i bet it has a cheapo mobo

  • the whole thing is cheap tbh

  • I want Logan.....

  • True.

  • i love HP comps. BUt they do horrible at cable management

  • the hell with pre-build overpriced PCs. I can build a monster of a PC with that price. I've recently built a better system for $850.

  • Who the hell cabled that case a kindergarten class?

  • this is nice

  • Man how can air circulate correctly. Look how they mess it up with those cables.

  • Few months and dust has crusted it so bad that the poor thing cant breathe.

    Then, death.

  • its good but the wireing sukks to the core

    i dont know y he didnt mentions dat the cabling is shabby

  • Jesus, my pc that i have now is my first proper build and the cables aren't that messy! Good review tho

  • have you seen the cable managment

  • seriously.. that looks like my first build, wires every where plus did I see dust :O

  • Someone took a picture (flash) at 2:37?

  • happens in alot of vids...

  • LOL.

  • look at the mobo vids its like every 5 seconds

  • Yeah you're right LOL.

  • an 4850x2 would barely fit in there, while my case is smaller.... whel atleast more cube but the case is a mess tbh, to much hp dedicated shit inthere and I dont loke motherboards up-side-down..... that thing has 0 airflow by the looks of the inside... what a mess, Custom pc's win from factory in quality and in money (if done by a smart guy)

  • Lovin' the cable management

  • thts pretty messy, the motherboard looks upside down and id rather have 4 gigs of ram and a 4870 rather thn 8 gigs and a 4850

  • lol cable management

  • i have the elite and it runs crysis like a champ

  • "No room for SLI..." wtfcake!

  • the motherboard doesnt even support sli what kind of info is that, Get the proper tech guys back!!!

  • its a deskop computer not gaming u fucking idiot

  • still the inside is fuckedup:P

  • it would still run farcry 2 so its still awesome

  • this is really not worth the cash, atlest not if ur gonna use it for gaming =)

  • How much?

  • u shoulda did sum cable management insside the cabby before opening it .... lol

  • ARE THESE PEOPLE EVER DISAPPOINTED WITH A PRODUCT??

    Sorry, but not every computer can be the best.

  • They do reviews for tiger direct and if they are doing a product on there there video is at the bottom. So they make it look good.

  • They SELL these products. Why would you say something sucks if you are selling it?

  • I'm sorry, I thought this was a review/overview of the product, not a commercial.

    Im not saying they should flat out say something sucks, just give recommendations like "If you are looking for relatively cheap PC with good performance..."

    NOT

    "OH MAN, THIS THING IS SICK!!! ITS LIKE THE SICKEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!"

  • They work for TigerDirect and these videos are posted on the product page on that site. I wish they would do real reviews. =/

  • To be fair. it isn't the typical integrated graphics desktop you see every time. No, it isn't the fastest PC you can buy. But it should run almost all games (the usual exceptions, GTA IV and Crysis) at their highest settings on a high resolution (1920X1200). The fact that it has a quad core and 8 gb of ram also makes it a good buy for video/audio editing and multimedia features. But yes, I agree, they exaggerate.

  • WOW.... rip off just get the XPS STUDIO

    ATi 4850 512mb

    4gb DDR3

    Core i7 2.66 GHz  way better and it has eSATA

  • lol that sounds silly, you talk about a hardcore hardware then say,and it has an e-sata

  • wired keyboard and mouse? C'mon HP...costs you like $5 more for wireless...

  • $1219, no thanks, can get a core i7

  • not worth the money.... 8Gb of ram ???

  • DDR2??? lol

  • Couldn't give a shit if its DDR2, the average user wouldn't need 8GB's, atleast for a few thousand years.

    I'm thinking this PC's aimed more at people who watch alot of movies, editing an so on, thats where you'd need that much memory.

  • So what? It's still awesomely cool to have x]]]

  • i'm fine with me 4gb

  • do you really need 8gb of ram? kinda overkill

  • NO ESATA wtf and the cable management looks awful fully pack they should an Amd PhenomII rather than using intel not so Core 2 quad I7 will be great! but that will be very expensive if I have this for free that will be great LoL MAo

  • HD4850's are already known for running really hot, imagine how hot is going to run in that mess of cables =O

  • My 4850 doesn't run warm at all. 39-40 idle, never above 55 under load.

  • I would not buy a pre-built computer ever unless it was free lol

  • Well then you wouldn't be buying it lol

  • Lol "4850" "Sli"

  • Well, you obviously know enough to point that out.. but who cares, really? lol.

  • Wow I thought Bauer didn't know anything about computers but yeah good job nicely done.

  • I don't