Making Friends with Saturn - Real Spiritual Integration

[lionstar111]

I love this!..integrating ALL energetic forms...moving from victim into empowered self. I am an astrologer, who has also worked inside the 'system'...born into the system. Saturn is conjunct my sun...and saturn has always been 'good' to me. Saturn is about owning ones own Authority, Work, Structure, Wise Self....'Shadow' being all this manifested outside yourself...Gov't Control, Gurus, Cults, Enslavement. Yes, own/claim your Saturn!..and your Sun, Venus, Mars, etc. etc.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@lionstar111 thanks for saying from a real astrologer :) makes my heart ring truer!

[mutopian1]

@lionstar111 Sun saturn can make you intensely self aware but also overly cautious. I have the sun and mercury square opposite uranus and pluto square sun conjunct mercury. Very intense and have clashed with authority many times, I draw it to me, I have always felt this planet to be restrictive and negative, I just want to escape, but am trying to find that beautiful balance and flow and inner peace. It is a lifelong journey and a strange bedfellow!

[lionstar111]

@mutopian1 Yes, these can be interpretations based on sign/house placement and other aspects in chart. My saturn is in 11th(natural ruler imo/eastern traditions) and also in Aries which it is fallen, which gives it 'less' restrictive nature...imo...so for me this has played out as the 'nice' structured authority within...and knowing how to maneuver these energies outside myself. I feel very at home with my own authority/structured nature...and have held positions of authority outside myself.

[lionstar111]

@lionstar111 (continued) so again, I completely agree with the notion of making friends with 'saturn'...a.k.a...the saturn within yourself. Astrology is just a composite of the energies we all born with and gives us a nice little map of how these energies may or may not play out in our lives. What we do not own inside ourselves will manifest outside of ourselves. Not owning ones authority inside will definitely 'bring' issues with authority outside yourself.

[lionstar111]

@mutopian1 One more thing...I have practiced/studied western/eastern astrology for nearly 20yrs now...and I have found that 'interpretation' is everything...no matter if it is a square or trine...I believe positive interpretation can be manifested..and this is how I practice. I have a quincunx(finger of god) also pointed at Saturn w/ other 'negative' aspects and have still manifested positive results with Saturn. Saturn has always been good to me b/c I believe this...;-) thanks for your message

[xptos1]

I added Saturn on facebook... will that do it? if not.. how?

[bluepegasus55]

thank you for sharing, always good seeing mate.

[KnaveChild]

Tobias, the world is quickly moving toward a global war with Iran...do you think we're going to get through the next decade?

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@KnaveChild yes, we'll 'get through it'...there will be collapses of old systems in government, social, spiritual, UFO Disclosure etc....but humans and the planet itself aren't going anywhere soon. No 'Armageddon scenarios' of cataclysmic proportions will play out.

[ASCENSIONPIONEERS]

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[1010bree]

saturn restricts also restricts restriction=freedom, deals with time and space, either through death or reincarnation or astral projection, the world card/universe, devil card, death card, most newagers see illuminati or jewish religion as saturnalian cults but they are wrong because they use the tree of death qlippoth and not the tree of life.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@1010bree tx for helping to explain that to those that knee jerk associate (mistakenly) working 'with Saturn' to some old Death Cult of Saturn. What I"m speaking of has NOTHING to do w/ the 'Cults of Saturn' or Illuminati - but in accepting physical form, rules, and structure in 'Order' to be able to have the game of Creation.

[1010bree]

@tobiaslarsgunnar ty TG, in qabballah these are our energy centers close to chakra system, planetary influences within our body/mind/spirit as we are a microcosm of the our macrocosmic universe, structure gets things done, manifests on earth, grounds those spiritual energies. Saturn is also spirit, the goddess binah sophia, understanding.