"Official Oppression Resistance Act" passes NH committee

[highmountain0]

there is only one law, the universal law

[newdarnaccount]

This was the video I was looking for. First, I misstated, in Illinois official misconduct covers all this now--there several circumstances. The cop who shot his gun for other cops to hear was charged because he knowingly performed an act which he knew he was forbidden by law to perform: discharging his firearm without authorization. I assume. And your kid pictures had me wondering, for a bit, what the kid had to do with the story. And I really lost track of time looking for this. Shoot!

[newdarnaccount]

What the legislator described--the current NH law--is called offical misconduct here. And it's felony. Of course, you have to love prosecutors. Sometimes they do goofy things even to cops. Had cop discharge a weapon on a desserted road--so other officers could hear it. WTF? But the state's attorney charged him with official misconduct. Dumb reason to charge someone with felony, IMHO.

[newdarnaccount]

@newdarnaccount Dave, what have you done? You look much younger in the picture you used in this video. New haircut? You were a cute kid, but why? Also, you know, your libery to spin with your arm out that way ends where someone else's nose begins. :-)

[Buffalo122333]

Why has no one pointed out the obvious, an officer of the law who refuses to enforce an unconstitutional law would be guilty of this violation.

It may get used against bad cops, it WILL be used against good ones.

[hallmobility]

@Buffalo122333 The official's action or inaction has to be for gain.

[hallmobility]

@hallmobility Unconstitutional acts ARE specifically covered. "... he knowingly commits an unauthorized act which purports to be an act of his office; ....".

[thanosied]

My eyes are rolling out of my head...as if these new laws will do anything to stop the aggression of the state. What a crock. All politicians can kiss my backside. Talking to them is a waste of time. And life is oh, so short...

[hallmobility]

@thanosied You should see the fed representative at these hearings. Some of Dan Itse's laws could get him arrested, and he's steamed.

[holajim]

If the Constitution were respected, this would be unnecessary. King George got his ass stomped for much less than has already been perpetrated on honest, hard-working Americans everywhere.

You got money, they'll spend a fortune stealing it from you while we let child-molesters free to rape and pillage. Studies show a child is 12 times more likely to be raped in the hands of so-called protective services.

[holajim]

When is the last time we executed someone for treason??? A society that will not defend itself is just a herd of sheep. Every damn law we have now favors the criminals.

[TheCrystalRiver]

Don't get me wrong - there's a lot that can still be done in NH with the legal system as is - but in other places... not so much.

[LibertyPictureFrames]

I will gladly accept that call Dave.

[p00lman]

"What happened when they fail to act against an obvious theft or murder."

What the fuck? Regardless of whether or not the camera confiscation is theft, what murder is Ridley referring to that authorities have "failed to act" regarding?

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

If you think socialism (where everyone gets free food, health care, education, etc.) is bad, try living in a state far more free-market than most of the US, like Indonesia, Thailand, Nigeria, Colombia, etc. I'd take taxes over sweatshops any day.

watch?v=sPc90AF5tAc

[Possumlivingdotcom]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 Who pays for all this free stuff? And where is the proof that the places you mentioned are free-market?

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

@Possumlivingdotcom Well, are those places socialist? Does the state own the means of production? Do the workers own the means of production? You tell me!

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

If you want a definition of capitalism, here it is: watch?v=l43yYw2i_yo

[Possumlivingdotcom]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 There is a large divide between socialist and free market; just because a place is not one does not mean it is the other. There are no true free market nations in the world today.

[spray006]

He said in this video..."if you get enough of these violations".... If you can prove ongoing pattern of this behavior by police officers, I wonder if you can charge entire Police Department under the RICO act... "An ongoing criminal enterprise"...

[BagOfEyebrows]

great video, Dave, and I agree with your sentiments at the closure of the Rep. Itse interview. But, I do think Rep. Itse is trying his best, within the system as it currently is, to at least empower the people with something useful instead of another law to ban, dictate or further impose upon the people's liberty, freedom or (as is usually the case) wallets. It would be great to have a combo of Rep. Itse with the "Repeal Rep" Surbey, working in conjunction with each other towards real liberty.

[dmgoddard]

Laws like this are tools that citizens can use to use the government to attack the government (eg, via lawsuits)

It actually works quite well sometimes. Case in point: Rosa Parks. It wasn't her arrest per se that ended segregation. Nor was it the boycott. It was Browder v. Gayle that brought segregation to an end on public buses. That in turn succeeded in large part because of the clarity of the underlying statute.

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

@dmgoddard Yeah but public action brings attention to social injustices.

I think it's so funny how the FSP claims to be all about "liberty" yet they kiss Ron Paul's feet any chance they get. How does a "liberty" project give so much support to a politician? The logic amazes me.

[freestatereport]

Now your lumping everyone that self identifies as a liberty activist that moved to nh due to the fsp. The fsp doesn't claim anything other then moving to nh to do whatever you want to do in pursuit of more liberty.

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

@freestatereport I live in NH. Most of the people who live here live in close proximity to Massachusetts where they work. NH itself has little to no industry. The FSP will realize that soon enough and their members may end up working in Mass where they have to pay Mass income tax (so much for ending the fed). Living in NH is not as "free" as you think.

[freestatereport]

what does that have to do with what I said?

[Possumlivingdotcom]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 FSP works within the existing system to bring about change. They are not about dumping that system. The existing system includes politicians. The idea is to elect politicians who try to reduce the government's intrusion on our lives, which Dr. Paul has proven to do throughout his long career. If we're stuck with politicians, shouldn't we get the best ones we can? Ron Paul says things freedom activists like to hear, and backs up his words with actions.

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

@Possumlivingdotcom Politicians can never bring true change. Only the masses of people can. Take a look at the history of this country: the labor movement, the civil rights movement, the feminist movement, etc. Those weren't brought on by politicians. They were brought on by the people working together. It was only when things because too hard to handle that politicians caved in and gave the people what they wanted. And don't expect Paul to do much, he wants to protect the rich from the poor.

[Possumlivingdotcom]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 I agree that politicians can't bring true change, but the movements you mention were helped along by politicians who, as always, ultimately benefited more than anyone. As for Ron Paul protecting the "rich from the poor", I would word that differently: he wants to protect those who produce wealth from other politicians who, ostensibly "for the poor", will take their production by force, keeping most of it and giving a pittance to those who don't produce anything.

[fczwartek]

"FSP is not about dumping the system"

I find that statement difficult to believe. It is true that there are some moderate (relatively) libertarian free-staters like Ridley who apparently want to work within the system to some degree.

But, probably a majority of libertarians in this forum are of the "time to refresh the tree of liberty with buckets of blood" persuasion.

Tea-baggers, tea-tards, birthers, 10thers, free market anarchists and fundamentalists.... mostly not moderates.

[Possumlivingdotcom]

@fczwartek The free state project is a separate entity from free market anarchists, etc. FSPers are specifically not anarchists; their plan is to move into a state with a relatively small population, a decent percentage of which are already pro-freedom, so as to become a majority in that state for voting purposes.

[RidleyReport]

fc you've been here long enough to know that's not accurate.

[fczwartek]

No, I will have to disagree with you on that Ridley.

You're right that I have been here for quite a while and during that time I have seen many, many comments that lead me to believe that the majority of libertarians (or conservatives in general) think that the time for peaceful direct action and resistance is over.

[TheCrystalRiver]

No, Ridley, he's (for the most part) correct.

We're just waiting to fight.

[somecomputergeek]

That's nice, but I can't really get exited about passing laws. Laws are ultimately enforced by violence, so more laws means more potential use of or threat of violence.

[MadSmokerBBQ]

As in, "Do it. Or else!" ?

[Ericson578]

great vid. Protests and social pressures are a good way to remind officials that they are not above the law.

[klaptongroovemaster]

What does "violation" mean? Is that worse than a misdemeanor?

I'm skeptical that this law will do much good. When one considers the way that many government officials often get away with outright crimes, I doubt that anyone is going to be able to stick "official oppression" on the "because I can" type of pigs, etc.

So, they are giving an existing law more teeth. How many convictions have there been in the past on the existing law?

If none, then the new teeth will likely bite nothing.