wages are less then 10% of the over head of any product. Because wages go does not mean prices have to go up, maybe CEO will take less, or profits will be 10% and not 85%. You are going straight to the fear tactic BS without thinking.
Capitalist scum do not even pay their workers more then what a bum earns begging in the street. A bum gets 50k tax free. You work for a capitalist pig they only give you minimum wage. fuck capitalism.
@MrAppleseed88 Its not my fault that stupid people give $50K to street beggars. I used to have an apartment and the people that lived downstairs begged for a living, they are the pigs. Each position in my company has a budget limit for labor. it’s the same in every company. A French Fry Flipper is only worth so much because any moron can do it. If McDonalds has to pay French Fry Flippers $12 per hour then the price of the fries goes from $1 to $2.35.
@MrAppleseed88 It would be the same for nearly ever product in any store in any state in America. Not only that but many unions base their wages at X% above minimum wage. What do you think that would do to the price of a car? Or plumbing repair? Holy shit man, at 77yrs you should be smarter than this. I guess some people are born to die stupid.
5$ a gallon for gas, bread is like 4 bucks a loaf. milk nearly 5$ a gallon, OVER 6$ a gallon if you care about your children and want organic. My wages aren't going up and when I ask my boss about it it's, "BE THANKFUL YOU HAVE A JOB!"
somethings not right here...something is coming...
@TheThedot I have worked along side illegals in the construction industry. I talked to them about how and why they came here. NONE of them were imported. They came of their own accord and they came for the money.
A moneyless,classless,stateless communities of humanity expressing our freedom in creative harmonious cooperation for a world that is so POTENTIALLY AND ACTUALLY nourishing. Capitalism in any form, Statist or Corporatist is the denial of our common humanity in a politically manipulated,tyrannical armed MARKET SYSYTEM of artificial scarcity that is designed to perpetuate the enslavement of immense humanity for the material interest of the criminal ruling elite
@Fuctmentality im not a libertarian so i dont care. nevertheless there are different types of libertarians left and right winged, not all libertarians are conservative... anyway no i do not support a minimum income. its just an alternative to the means of evil. once people read in an economic textbook about minimum wage and how it works, people should realize how unproductive and how it keeps people out jobs.
@Fuctmentality it goes against the free market because you are substituting a governmental approach for wages instead of the free market approach for wages, marginal productivity...
@Fuctmentality well then if you are talking about the minimum income policy purposed by James Toblin, i already told you, i oppose it because of its government intervention. if you are talking about Murray's vision the the GMI then i still oppose it because it is in the special interests of unions to determine the wage and not the business... nevertheless Murray isn't an economist, he is a political scientist and a career politician. He wants whats best for Washington not for the people.
@Fuctmentality there is such thing in the Free Market to determine wage, and that is Marginal Productivity. We do not need a pointless GMI bill passed or minimum wage to determine what an appropriate wage is for all people that work.
If minimum wages are so good for the economy, then why don't we raise them to $50 an hour? Or $100 an hour? I wonder if that might cause unemployment to go up....
@BobbyW3363 minimum wage is a fraud... it is just a way to hide the inflation done by the fed and the government. there has never been a time in the U.S when inflation stayed the same and minimum wage rose... whenever inflation rises, minimum wage rises.
@cobracarg Decentralized for one. I am of the mises theory on monetary policy where banks have to compete not where a central private bank loans money to the government then the people pay income taxes to pay off the interest. This system is criminal and against natural law.
@BobbyW3363 Why don't we pay people under minimum wage like they do in China and lift all labor laws, I'm sure that would be great for the economy. People are really fucking stupid in this country. The corporations have the citizens totally brain washed. They want everyone working with no labor laws, no safety regulations, no minimum wage, no health benefits and no overtime.
@attemptingtobehumble Abolishing the minimum wage and the labor laws would be great for our economy. These laws price the least experienced and least skilled people out of the jobs market - they make it ILLEGAL for them to get a job! And all the other labor laws just make hiring more expensive for the employer. High wages do not exist because of laws, to think otherwise is to be ignorant of basic economics.
@BobbyW3363 No having tariffs will create more jobs. Do you want us to be like China where your employer can do whatever they want to you? Going back to feudalism will not raise wages. I'm not even saying we have to have a minimum wage but you need to have collective bargaining rights. I have had plenty of jobs and the ones with no unions generally the employer treats you like dog shit.
@BobbyW3363 Not really I work as a window glazier and thankfully I am in a union. This union provide adequate safety standards, I have health benefits because of it, a living wage and it even keeps illegal immigrants from taking jobs away from Americans.
"If you can't pay the minimum wage, you shouldn't be in business" is the same as say "If you can't get a job at the minimum wage, you shouldn't be working".
Does a living wage increase affect all workers the same? I mean,people's financial situation can be shaped by their money management knowledge or by how many kids they have to support. So I can still see some people struggling even with an increase in a living wage.
Sure. Blame the workers for wanting to make a fucking living! If the whole world would stop letting the corporate elite from exploiting the masses, we wouldn't have jobs going to the so-called People's Republic. The Scandanavians are the happiest people in the world for a reason.
Minimum wage jobs are so because any friggin idiot can do them. You are not supposed to be raising a family on that kind of pay and if you are the boss is not the problem, you are. These jobs are for teenagers, wannabe rock stars, people that where their pants to low, their ball cap backwards and cant speak in a legible manner.
MORON! Hell yes minimum wage is un acceptable to intelligent people. I have worked for it at one point. The dif is that I looked for and found a better job. Then I looked for and found a better job than that. If you raise minimum wage to $10 or $12 what do you think that will do the price of a cheese burger? And the person making minimum has to pay higher prices too. You, Nader are stupid!
@ymp5000 Your the fucking idiot. Prehaps you haven't seen that prices have been raised higher on goods than the raise of minimum wages. So saying that raising minimum wage is the reason products cost more is idiotic. Prices will rise regardless of minimum wage. You seem to be against minimum wage. Me too. I'm for a living wage. BTW there are people who are quite intelligent who are required to take min wage jobs b/c that's all that's available in less developed ares. SO FUCK YOU
@loganachilles1982 A living wage is a unicorn. It is a myth! Jobs have budgets. When I hire a person I have a budget for how much I can invest into that position and still have that person turning a profit. OOPS! I used the P word. If a drive thru owner was to pay every one he/she employs a living wage he/she will have to reflect that cost increase in the price of the product. The end consumer ALWYA pays the total cost of production + profit.
@loganachilles1982 If not the producer loses money, closes, then more unemployed. There are MANY other things that effect the cost of a product, good or service other than labor but by and large labor is the biggest component for most employers. Taxes have a big role in determining prices, as dose product flow. No, wages are not the only expense that effects prices, I never said it was, but it is the biggest.
I am sorry but this guy is an idiot. I have a small business. A franchise Pizza company. My sales are well above the national average. I am the busiest company in my city and I assure you raising minium wage that much with effect you all more than me. If my wages go up say 30%. I immediately have to raise my prices 15% to pay for those increased costs. Over time as all my venders raise their prices for me I will raise my prices again to pay for those costs.
You one dumb fuck. I bet your unemployed too aren't you. In fact I bet you are a nigger. See you 22 year olds think you know how the world works but all you really know is how to suck mommy's nipple
lol you have a uneducated bark bro. you can keep paying jose the kitchen help and jane the hostess minimum wage because their fucking ignorant and just want a job- but for any decent American minimum wage is unacceptable. your part of the problem and you don't get it. try perpetuating a minimum wage on a national level you'll get hung.
It's ignorance like yours that drives our jobs to China. Americans at the top are way overpaid and that is why our companies ship off to China. I never said my company was a career for plp it's a start. You are probably also one of those dumb fuck customers that asks why you only used to have to pay 8 dollars for a large pizza and it's now 11.00 dollars. This is economics study it before you voice your uneducated mind
Increase your prices, pay for the wages. Without living wages for your employees, your employees can't afford to eat, have a place to live, or anything else, which may have an adverse affect on their employment with your company, temporary though it may be in your eyes.
Nader: The way to address the "problem" of small businesses paying "too little" is not to say "if you can't do it you shouldn't be in business". The way to address it is to notice that it will take care of itself if the gov stops giving corporate welfare to big business.
The reason this would work is that big business would no longer have an economy of scale advantage over the small ones, and that would give rise to more small ones (who could then pay a living wage).
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wages are less then 10% of the over head of any product. Because wages go does not mean prices have to go up, maybe CEO will take less, or profits will be 10% and not 85%. You are going straight to the fear tactic BS without thinking.
MrAppleseed88 7 months ago
Capitalist scum do not even pay their workers more then what a bum earns begging in the street. A bum gets 50k tax free. You work for a capitalist pig they only give you minimum wage. fuck capitalism.
MrAppleseed88 9 months ago
@MrAppleseed88 Its not my fault that stupid people give $50K to street beggars. I used to have an apartment and the people that lived downstairs begged for a living, they are the pigs. Each position in my company has a budget limit for labor. it’s the same in every company. A French Fry Flipper is only worth so much because any moron can do it. If McDonalds has to pay French Fry Flippers $12 per hour then the price of the fries goes from $1 to $2.35.
ymp5000 7 months ago
@MrAppleseed88 It would be the same for nearly ever product in any store in any state in America. Not only that but many unions base their wages at X% above minimum wage. What do you think that would do to the price of a car? Or plumbing repair? Holy shit man, at 77yrs you should be smarter than this. I guess some people are born to die stupid.
ymp5000 7 months ago
5$ a gallon for gas, bread is like 4 bucks a loaf. milk nearly 5$ a gallon, OVER 6$ a gallon if you care about your children and want organic. My wages aren't going up and when I ask my boss about it it's, "BE THANKFUL YOU HAVE A JOB!"
somethings not right here...something is coming...
birthdaythesuit00 10 months ago
@birthdaythesuit00 Hell yes something is coming, its call a depression.
ymp5000 7 months ago
importing illegals is prof evil capitalism can not survive without slave labor and needs to grind the wages of working people down via illegals.
TheThedot 1 year ago
@TheThedot I have worked along side illegals in the construction industry. I talked to them about how and why they came here. NONE of them were imported. They came of their own accord and they came for the money.
ymp5000 7 months ago
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A moneyless,classless,stateless communities of humanity expressing our freedom in creative harmonious cooperation for a world that is so POTENTIALLY AND ACTUALLY nourishing. Capitalism in any form, Statist or Corporatist is the denial of our common humanity in a politically manipulated,tyrannical armed MARKET SYSYTEM of artificial scarcity that is designed to perpetuate the enslavement of immense humanity for the material interest of the criminal ruling elite
arzoyan 1 year ago
please people, there is a reason why most nobel peace prize winners for economics believe that minimum wage increases poverty and ruins business...
cobracarg 1 year ago
@cobracarg Would you prefer the libertarian alternative? IE guaranteed minimum income? & Yes that was originally a libertarian idea.
Fuctmentality 1 year ago
@Fuctmentality im not a libertarian so i dont care. nevertheless there are different types of libertarians left and right winged, not all libertarians are conservative... anyway no i do not support a minimum income. its just an alternative to the means of evil. once people read in an economic textbook about minimum wage and how it works, people should realize how unproductive and how it keeps people out jobs.
cobracarg 1 year ago
@cobracarg Every one does realize that, we realize other things as well however. How would guaranteed minimum income be evil?
Fuctmentality 1 year ago
@Fuctmentality it goes against free market activity and dictates what a minimum should be. tell me, how do you think a minimum income would work?
cobracarg 1 year ago
@cobracarg How does it go against the free market in any way? & What do you mean how it would work? Do you not know what the term means?
Fuctmentality 1 year ago
@Fuctmentality i know what it means but i want you to tell me what it mean to you.
cobracarg 1 year ago
@Fuctmentality it goes against the free market because you are substituting a governmental approach for wages instead of the free market approach for wages, marginal productivity...
cobracarg 1 year ago
@cobracarg Your going to have to explain that one to me? You're aware GMI doesn't necessarily involve any government involvement in wages.
Fuctmentality 1 year ago
@Fuctmentality tell me about it then... i just want to know how your ideal version of a minimum income would work
cobracarg 1 year ago
@cobracarg How is this my ideal version? I just asked would you be opposed to it & asked for follow up. I don't give a shit.
Fuctmentality 1 year ago
@Fuctmentality well then if you are talking about the minimum income policy purposed by James Toblin, i already told you, i oppose it because of its government intervention. if you are talking about Murray's vision the the GMI then i still oppose it because it is in the special interests of unions to determine the wage and not the business... nevertheless Murray isn't an economist, he is a political scientist and a career politician. He wants whats best for Washington not for the people.
cobracarg 1 year ago
@Fuctmentality there is such thing in the Free Market to determine wage, and that is Marginal Productivity. We do not need a pointless GMI bill passed or minimum wage to determine what an appropriate wage is for all people that work.
cobracarg 1 year ago
If minimum wages are so good for the economy, then why don't we raise them to $50 an hour? Or $100 an hour? I wonder if that might cause unemployment to go up....
BobbyW3363 1 year ago
@BobbyW3363 minimum wage is a fraud... it is just a way to hide the inflation done by the fed and the government. there has never been a time in the U.S when inflation stayed the same and minimum wage rose... whenever inflation rises, minimum wage rises.
cobracarg 1 year ago
@cobracarg Why couldn't you get rid of the Fed and still have a living wage?
attemptingtobehumble 4 months ago
@attemptingtobehumble what do you mean by Fed? (like the central bank or the fed as in federal)
cobracarg 4 months ago
@cobracarg The central bank.
attemptingtobehumble 4 months ago
@attemptingtobehumble so what kind of banking system do you have in mind then?
cobracarg 4 months ago
@cobracarg Decentralized for one. I am of the mises theory on monetary policy where banks have to compete not where a central private bank loans money to the government then the people pay income taxes to pay off the interest. This system is criminal and against natural law.
attemptingtobehumble 4 months ago
@BobbyW3363 Why don't we pay people under minimum wage like they do in China and lift all labor laws, I'm sure that would be great for the economy. People are really fucking stupid in this country. The corporations have the citizens totally brain washed. They want everyone working with no labor laws, no safety regulations, no minimum wage, no health benefits and no overtime.
attemptingtobehumble 4 months ago
@attemptingtobehumble Abolishing the minimum wage and the labor laws would be great for our economy. These laws price the least experienced and least skilled people out of the jobs market - they make it ILLEGAL for them to get a job! And all the other labor laws just make hiring more expensive for the employer. High wages do not exist because of laws, to think otherwise is to be ignorant of basic economics.
BobbyW3363 4 months ago
@BobbyW3363 No having tariffs will create more jobs. Do you want us to be like China where your employer can do whatever they want to you? Going back to feudalism will not raise wages. I'm not even saying we have to have a minimum wage but you need to have collective bargaining rights. I have had plenty of jobs and the ones with no unions generally the employer treats you like dog shit.
attemptingtobehumble 4 months ago
@BobbyW3363 Not really I work as a window glazier and thankfully I am in a union. This union provide adequate safety standards, I have health benefits because of it, a living wage and it even keeps illegal immigrants from taking jobs away from Americans.
attemptingtobehumble 4 months ago
"If you can't pay the minimum wage, you shouldn't be in business" is the same as say "If you can't get a job at the minimum wage, you shouldn't be working".
BobbyW3363 1 year ago
Does a living wage increase affect all workers the same? I mean,people's financial situation can be shaped by their money management knowledge or by how many kids they have to support. So I can still see some people struggling even with an increase in a living wage.
CrowdPleeza 1 year ago
Lets also have a maximum wage.
maccagrabme 1 year ago
Sure. Blame the workers for wanting to make a fucking living! If the whole world would stop letting the corporate elite from exploiting the masses, we wouldn't have jobs going to the so-called People's Republic. The Scandanavians are the happiest people in the world for a reason.
thoughtsurfer1 2 years ago
Minimum wage jobs are so because any friggin idiot can do them. You are not supposed to be raising a family on that kind of pay and if you are the boss is not the problem, you are. These jobs are for teenagers, wannabe rock stars, people that where their pants to low, their ball cap backwards and cant speak in a legible manner.
ymp5000 2 years ago
MORON! Hell yes minimum wage is un acceptable to intelligent people. I have worked for it at one point. The dif is that I looked for and found a better job. Then I looked for and found a better job than that. If you raise minimum wage to $10 or $12 what do you think that will do the price of a cheese burger? And the person making minimum has to pay higher prices too. You, Nader are stupid!
ymp5000 2 years ago
@ymp5000 Your the fucking idiot. Prehaps you haven't seen that prices have been raised higher on goods than the raise of minimum wages. So saying that raising minimum wage is the reason products cost more is idiotic. Prices will rise regardless of minimum wage. You seem to be against minimum wage. Me too. I'm for a living wage. BTW there are people who are quite intelligent who are required to take min wage jobs b/c that's all that's available in less developed ares. SO FUCK YOU
loganachilles1982 1 year ago
@loganachilles1982 A living wage is a unicorn. It is a myth! Jobs have budgets. When I hire a person I have a budget for how much I can invest into that position and still have that person turning a profit. OOPS! I used the P word. If a drive thru owner was to pay every one he/she employs a living wage he/she will have to reflect that cost increase in the price of the product. The end consumer ALWYA pays the total cost of production + profit.
ymp5000 1 year ago
@loganachilles1982 If not the producer loses money, closes, then more unemployed. There are MANY other things that effect the cost of a product, good or service other than labor but by and large labor is the biggest component for most employers. Taxes have a big role in determining prices, as dose product flow. No, wages are not the only expense that effects prices, I never said it was, but it is the biggest.
ymp5000 1 year ago
I am sorry but this guy is an idiot. I have a small business. A franchise Pizza company. My sales are well above the national average. I am the busiest company in my city and I assure you raising minium wage that much with effect you all more than me. If my wages go up say 30%. I immediately have to raise my prices 15% to pay for those increased costs. Over time as all my venders raise their prices for me I will raise my prices again to pay for those costs.
spankythatsme 2 years ago
screw your pizza franchise- minimum wage is slavery legalized. we can all do better than cheese sauce and pepperoni on bread you brainwashed nazi
jerodini 2 years ago
You one dumb fuck. I bet your unemployed too aren't you. In fact I bet you are a nigger. See you 22 year olds think you know how the world works but all you really know is how to suck mommy's nipple
spankythatsme 2 years ago
lol you have a uneducated bark bro. you can keep paying jose the kitchen help and jane the hostess minimum wage because their fucking ignorant and just want a job- but for any decent American minimum wage is unacceptable. your part of the problem and you don't get it. try perpetuating a minimum wage on a national level you'll get hung.
jerodini 2 years ago
It's ignorance like yours that drives our jobs to China. Americans at the top are way overpaid and that is why our companies ship off to China. I never said my company was a career for plp it's a start. You are probably also one of those dumb fuck customers that asks why you only used to have to pay 8 dollars for a large pizza and it's now 11.00 dollars. This is economics study it before you voice your uneducated mind
spankythatsme 2 years ago
Increase your prices, pay for the wages. Without living wages for your employees, your employees can't afford to eat, have a place to live, or anything else, which may have an adverse affect on their employment with your company, temporary though it may be in your eyes.
AubinMagnus 2 years ago
The ONLY authentic candidate? That may be the case. Besides Dennis K. and M. Gravel, the ONLY candidate who does not make my skin crawl.
DanLackey 2 years ago
Nader: The way to address the "problem" of small businesses paying "too little" is not to say "if you can't do it you shouldn't be in business". The way to address it is to notice that it will take care of itself if the gov stops giving corporate welfare to big business.
The reason this would work is that big business would no longer have an economy of scale advantage over the small ones, and that would give rise to more small ones (who could then pay a living wage).
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homerthompsonman 2 years ago
You are a great man Ralph Nader!votenaderdotorg
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agitcam 3 years ago
how right you are sir.......
thankgodcpa 3 years ago 7