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  • Trick shooting is very cheap but quick scoping is okay.

  • Guys new quickscope clan! Boqs Msg me ill tell you details PS3 only and with a recorder!

  • Only people that can't qs think itts cheap

  • Cheap

  • Guys can u please give my clan a chance

    just go to my channel and watch the videos and please subcribe

  • Anybody want to quickscope with me? Send me a message on Xbox. Optiflow6

  • It s not cheap!!! You are right!! It s not easy and it s funny. Good video, man

  • 'yeah it kills with one bullet' *Hitmarker*

    

  • its cheap and stupid for the same reasons stated in the video...someone with a fully automatic weapon still has to aim but multiple bullets are needed to drop u...a quickscoper does the same thing...except its ONE bullet...usually more is better but in this case...one bullet does the trick...faster reflexes...lol i highly doubt it...connection issues?latency?dropshotting?bt­w once u aim,the crosshair autolocks onto a target when it picks it,up to u to move with the target-hardly u pinning it down

  • I want to join optic how do I join I'm good at quicks oping but I need a little improvement

  • quickscoping is the ONLY thing that takes skill in COD

  • Quick scoping is the world :) <3

  • Quick scoping is skillful I'm not just saying it because I am one but if I'm quick scoping with intervention in mw2 or L118A in mw3 if I miss a shot against a assault rifle or something I'd be dead because I use bolt action and I have to cock it after every shot

  • so true, i just like quickscoping because i think it looks cool

  • H3CZ i agree with you completely, if someone gets out gunned by a sniper they're bad nuff said...

  • Levitube try search and destroy

  • @LeviTubeAge Search&Destriy on MW2 and CoD4, Team Defender MW3

  • quickscoping is hard lol im still trying to learn how to quickscope better when i quickscope in team deathmatchs sometimes i get 10 kills 2 deaths or some shit sometimes i get 2 kills 10 deaths -.-

    can anyone suggest me a better quickscoping game where almost everyone snipes?

  • @LeviTubeAge free for all

  • hey guys, check my channel out its not to bad ;)

  • Quick scoping is alot harder than using a machine gun. I use both and like quick scoping more

  • i agree with everything you said 200%.  quickscopers are far more skillful than automatic weapon users.

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  • QUICKSCOPING takes total skill c'mon bro

  • Quiscoping takes skill broo..... f treyarch and wat dat guy said about quickscoping!!

  • Lol u autoheads don't get it it takes skill to even survive in this game to say quickscoping is cheap is saying having fun is cheap and really to all those who hard scope and did like quick scoping that's ur style u can't blam other ppl from growing up and trying new things. You can even say that quick scoping evolved from hard scoping just slot faster

  • i am a 100% quickscoper and i think its really really hard to get good at it!

  • Quickscoping.. Cheap, are you kidding me

  • agree its just awesome so much skill to much jalous people

  • HAVE FUN WITH YOUR AIM ASSIST YOU FUCKING FAGS, EVEN THOUGH I HATE TO USE THEM, MY SHOTGUN WILL KILL U PUSSIES

  • Yess lets exploit game mechanics to get instant acurate weapons!

    This is so fun! I love cheating! It really adds a sense of challenge and achievement to my game!

    Aiming is too hard as it is! I'll use aim assist on my console with quick scope to get instant sniper kills! Im so pro, anyone who disagrees with me is a loser because they cant quickscope with such SKILL.

    If anyone wants to play real FPS games that require skill. Roll back about 14 years to delta force. 56k modems without cheating

  • Fuck Quickscoping!

  • Cheap but also skill

  • I am a noob at quickscoping... I'm still learning and it is far from cheap. I think snipers have one of the best play styles and they seem more professional than most... I mean you have to admit some sniping you see is pretty impressive.

  • i agree quickscoping isnt cheap, it is annoying tho. i quickscope sometimes and im really not that good at mw3 its just fun

  • @LiteWaitPlays wow just......wow get your viewers legit thats what i do-_-

  • Please watch my quickscoping videos!

  • Episode 1 Coming Soon "The Storm..."

  • People that think quickscoping is cheap are just naive of game mechanics and are just in denial that it is easy by the kill cams and montages they have seen.

  • I think he is saying it is cheat and skilful, he thinks its cheap because it is a way to kill many people fast (if you are pro) which was not meant to be in the game. remember... QS beats auto beats sniper

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  • skillfull!!

    

  • If anyone would like to 1v1 me on ps3 add me my psn is ilK_FAKiiE

  • Snipers are always harder to use than automatics, even if they do have fast aim, the tradeoff is that they run around and make themselves vulnerable instead of camping a window.

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  • Quick scopes are so much better I agree

  • The quickscoping community is huge i agree. But we do put our selves in a disadvantage when we quickscope. but thats our choice its not cheap at all . I like just playing fun and normally instead of going try hard, I agree with you H3CZ

  • @AirbornShots Exactly how are you at a disadvantage? You get all of the perks of a sniper, high damage, accuracy and long range without any of the downsides like the slow aim speed. It is definitely cheap.

  • @Megahylo Your at a disadvantage because you might be in a lobby with a bunch of try hards and if you facing a person using a UMP 45 they can spray atleast 20 bullets before you can even shoot 2 bullets from your sniper .

  • @AirbornShots yeah but the full auto guns only do a small fraction of the damage and the auto aim doesnt lock on for you anywhere near as much, quickscoping is an instant kill from almost any range and all of the work is done for you.

  • @Megahylo Alright , You have a good point . but you have to admit if your in a game with try hards and your running around quickscoping its gonna be a bit harder then someone using fully auto and spraying . and I agree snipers are easy to use but there also really fun

  • @AirbornShots I can see how they're fun for the quickscoper, but for the quickscopee it gets frustrating trying to play the game conventionally; using ARs and/or 'hardscoping', and getting constantly insta-killed by what looks like a wookee having a seizure. Also the whole spamming of flash grenades is just annoying.

  • @Megahylo if quickscoping locks on post a gameplay or at least try to get 35 kills with the "cheap gun" then

  • thank you hecz, i totally agree!

  • It does take a small amount of skill to get them in your crosshairs but it's mostly aim assist why do you think you have to move the sight when quick scoping? to activate the aim assist its even easier in mw3 because 90% of the guns kill in 1 less bullet then in mw2 yet the sniper remains the same ohk. That's coming from a quickscoper

  • Quick scoping does take skill no matter who you are every optic, faze and every known QS clan or lone quickscoper will tell your hater ass "it does take skill" 1v1 ur auto vs my bolt action... we win because it takes skill versus you running around and spraying.

  • @leaugeofboxes: u realize thats real life sniping right? we have our fun with 3 secounds between shots and you have an automatic that shoots a round in what... 3 to 5 depending on rapid fire and even still... we kick your ass while you have complete auto or semi auto with a rapid mod like most ass holes who play yet we still kick your ass running around (:

  • Real snipers are supposed to ''camp'' and take out people from far range. A sniper isn't a fucking shotgun!! Retards

  • i agree with you i don't have gameplay but my friends say i'm a monster at quickscoping but i don't have a capture card!!!:(

  • quickscopin is extremly skillful. i feel ya and yea in the time we get off one shot they get off 15. its a horrible ratio against quickscopers. if we miss on our first shot they kill us in half a second. quicksoping takes alot more skill than aiming down a sight and firing

  • shitscoping = thumbs down

  • @judgedeath1000 cod and battlefield are 2 very different games. Skill is incomparable. Your argument is invalid. Shut the fuck up

  • call of duty games dos,nt take skill 2 play if u want 2 play a game that takes skill go play battlefeild because battlefeild is way better than cod games because u dont get idiots running around and trying 2 quickscope u

  • @judgedeath1000 that comment should have been aborted, just like you.

  • @DVDvideoproductions Aim assist works on every gun.... Pretty sure aim assist does the work for the ACR, Type95, shotguns, FMGs..... Snipers are normal weapons except with a lower rate of fire. If aim assist does all the work then why doesnt every quickscope hit? Not to mention hitmarkers.

  • LOL idc if people dislike quickscoping ive done it in every cod since CoD2 and will continue to do it. Ask me to take out a "reg" gun and i promise u will rage

  • quickscoping is cheap. i fuckin hate it when im on a moab streak and some idiot half scopes me across the map and aim assist does all the work

  • @DVDvideoproductions replay this commentary and fucking listen this time

  • People taking this to serious

  • JD has made 3 horrible call of duties, he sucks along with his company, quickscoping all the way

  • @dquinnpga wat u r a quickscoping noob and plus it dos,nt take skill quickscope

  • The only game you can really determine, who is better or "quicker" is battlefield. Cod's matches are based on uav, thats why every member of the winning team has a way better "match" k/d, than the players on the losing team.

  • The thing about mw2and or all cod. Is how "quick" you are about aiming the opponent is irrelevant. Being "quick" to aim at your opponent is only partially the matter. In my opinion its based on UAV and game knowledge.. Knowing where your opponents are before the other is usually what gets you the kill faster.. Thats why when your team is losing, they stay losing until the end, which is relevant to your team k/d you'll notice that most of which have more deaths than kills. This is because the UAV

  • The kids trolling about aim assist: even though there is aim assist...quickscoping takes hell lots more skill than having aim assist help you with an automatic gun. Quickscoping isn't cheap. You have to have precision, if you use a bolt action sniper in the game, you miss one shot and you're most likely going to die...

  • @judgedeath1000 wow retard. It takes more skill than running around with an SMG or assault rifle spraying everywhere. Your only saying that because you cant quickscope and your probably sick of everyone else quickscoping you. Why would there be a huge youtube community focused on quickscoping if it takes no skill?!

  • @roge172 well rog172 u faggot do have any proof that quickscoping takes no u dont. and wats wrong running around with a smg or assaultrifle.and plus it not that hard 2 quickscope faggot thats why it dos,nt take skill 2 do it

  • @judgedeath1000 lol i'm not even going to argue with someone who can't form a sentence.

  • there no skill with quickscoping on mw3 because there a perk called quickdraw thats makes u aim faster.u guys who quickscope need to get over it there no skill in quickscope there never was and u guys make a big deal over people who hardscope who cares if they hardscope because its part the game but not quickscoping

  • @judgedeath1000 yeah and in MW2 there was a perk called Slight of Hand that did the same thing. How about you try quickscoping, you go get quadfeeds then please, say it takes no skill.

  • Look at that tryhard on the final killcam xD

  • i find qs fantastic

  • I've gotten pretty good at quickscoping in MW3 and yea poeple have been SPAMMING me like crazy. They get in my face and try to knife or shoot me down and BANG your head is gone Gears of War style. I mean play the way you want to play who the hell cares man? People been annoiying me lately.

  • @TheOmegaLegacy its not about "oh look, im quickscoping, im so good your a scrub." etc. its about challenging yourself on a game you know all about. like how you want to use the m4, some people think its too easy to use that, so they quickscope. and no its not easy, its reaction timing and aiming down the scope at the right times, not to mention running around with a one shot weapon that takes precision to get kills. unless your running around shooting one shot kills with the m4, then im dumb.HA

  • @Skandel32492 Quickscoing is very easy. And NO one does it because it is a challenge, no one wants to challenge themself in a game that is already challenging for some. They do it to record it and upload it on YouTube to make themselves look cool.

    And like I said, the precision isn't involved because the game aims for you when you zoom in.

  • @thaFalkon says the dumbass butthurt fairy boy that spelt a word with two capital letters...lol MOdern? no its Modern...Modern Warfare. oh and its the Falcon. not thaFalkon, speaking as how your trying to prove that your smarter than me. and your the only one bitching about this so go bitch to someone that actually gives a fuck. and once again, YOUR A DUMBASS.

  • @thaFalkon your fucking stupid. its called Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare, as i put in the last comment. are you really that stupid? or does someone need to post a picture of the fucking cover box to show your low level IQ fucking SCRUB

  • @Skandel32492 But you didn't say CoD 4, you said MW4, which means MOdern Warfare 4. And don't call people stupid if you're gonna use the wrong form of the word "you're"

  • F**k jd or whatever his name quickscoping rules and thats it

  • -.- how is quickscoping cheap. It makes the game more fun. Because its challenging. So yea it takes one bullet. But if you miss that first shot. Your fu**ed. Honestly. Ppl should just quit hating on quickscopers. And just play the game. -by a quickscoper.

  • @thaFalkon well, since your the only retard to not see that it started as Call Of Duty 4 Modern Warfare so when i put mw4 i think people got the idea, since no one but your dumb fuckin self commented on it. nice fail noob

  • @Skandel32492 It's called Call OF Duty 4, not Modern Warfare 4, dipshit. Nice fail, retard.

  • i cant quickscope i wish i could though cuz its fuckin sic to be able to do but u know respect to the people that can i know its just a game but its still a talent

  • It's not cheap he's just mad because he can't quick scope

  • artsnipers its called sleight of hand pro get it if you dont have it well thats your own fault so bitch some more about it that will help

  • to the guy bitching below your just mad ok it doestaje skill to be better quickscoping then you pansy campers and everyone running around with fully auto weps so you below me you have no life cry about it tournements ha you noob shut up!

  • The only part skilful part of quick scoping is your technique and consistency, what a lot of people don't realise when they're using a sniper against someone with an SMG or AR is that they kill the person in one sniper bullet and can basically shoot people across the map since there's a scope. Another thing is it's a quickscope, its quick and therefore you aim in before the other person usually unless they're prepared, there's also noscoping up close which smg and ar cant do in 1 bullet.

  • i think this is all funny that they say this they can do what they want. if you think about it there are many other companies waiting for there chance to make a game that will take over the fps charts and they way they are doing this back and forth shit is just they fighting with them selves and in my opinion slowing the progress. what happened to companies that make one of the greatest series that has game out they need to rediscover there roots they need to keep in touch with the community

  • Quickscoping takes a lot of skill u got 1 bullet one chance to take that guy out. If that guy dies its because he just fucking sucks. I quickscope because it's hard and challenging its the only thing I find fun in cod.

  • @xTakeItToTheDome420x I think you misspelled "easy and cheap"

  • @MakiMakipl oh stfu dude just because u get raped by quickscopers doesnt mean its cheap it mean u suck.

  • @MakiMakipl Ok, if it's so easy, why don't you win a few games with a positive K/D while quickscoping with an intervention on MW2, or the MSR from MW3? I bet you can't, and the reason is because you fucking suck at it, because you don't have enough skill to do it.

  • Quickscopes are cheap because they're all range one shot kills.

  • If u trash in the comments u suk cause if u cant beat them join them they r better but u have a full atomatic gun FAIl

  • that's totally true you need to have skill to quickscope OpTic H3CZ RULES

  • sniping is the only thing that takes skill in this game,spray guns=zero skill

  • 1. Quickscoping takes skill no matter what people say and it's in no way cheap, if it was so "over powered" as he says, why don't people quickscope in tournaments then? BECAUSE quickscoping takes skill and it's harder, only people who say it's OP are people who are jealous and bad players, any good player can beat a quickscoper with a reg gun.

    2. Black ops didn't make the sniping harder, they mde it inconsistant, u could hardscope and it wouldn't detect it cuz of their stupid patch.

  • @xResourceHD QSing takes no skill, the auto-aim aims for you. 

  • @TheOmegaLegacy Is that so? Where's your amazing QS gameplay video? Oh, that's right, you don't have one. Most likely because you're shit at QSing.

  • @thaFalkon I can quick scope easily, its much easier than controlling recoil and firing an automatic LMG. For QSing you pretty much just fit sleight of hand on a sniper rifle and the game does the rest...

  • @TheOmegaLegacy Ok, prove it. Post a video of you getting a positive K/D while quickscoping.

  • @thaFalkon No I can't because I can't be bothered because you will still troll me, and also there is no point, I guarantee that most of these fucked up cod shots and montages were practices and rehearsed hundreds of times and the guy probably got a horrific K/D

    And anyway K/D doesn't matter to me, I am not a selfish cunt whore who wants killstreaks, I play objectively. Quick Scoping is a horrible strategy and I would never do it, not because I can't but because I don't like doing it.

  • @TheOmegaLegacy Excuses, excuses...

  • @thaFalkon Yeah thought so, typical quick scoping cunt thinks he is so much better just because he can shoot before aiming.

  • @TheOmegaLegacy lmao, what? I don't quickscope... I'm just saying that it's difficult and you can't do it. Now you're acting like it's so damn easy, well if it is, why don't you back it up? Go into a FFA if you're an objective player, and win that FFA QS only.

    Also: U mad?

  • @thaFalkon It is easy, you slap on sleight of hand and you aim, the game's aim assist does the rest.

    And no I don't want to win a FFA quick scoping because I just hate quick scoping, there is no logic to it, its a horrible and rubbish strategy. I'd rather run around with an M4A1 with Hybrid Sight any day. 

  • @TheOmegaLegacy There you go, making excuses again.

  • @TheOmegaLegacy haha this Comment box turned into a funny one indeed, and im replying to your comment as i agree, quickscoping takes no skill, i got my 6 year old sister to quickscope on a private game i made for her, its just a stupid bug that they got in the COD games which they later realised but kept now as people got used to it

  • @xResourceHD

    Your seriously a retard. Any real competitive gamer that plays in top tournaments either online or at LAN is 100% better than any sniper that thinks he's good in an online match. This is coming from a top competitive sniper and a top competitive team.

    Youtube has brainwashed people into thinking that if someone isn't a sniper, they're automatically bad/worse than people sniping. OpTic, FaZe and all you other clans that started and continue this shit, fuck you.

  • i agree with heck

  • ok MW2 quickscoping is a bit unfair an dits even worse if ur a pro like cod 4 quickscoping is fair!!! its a challengel like mw2 its to easy and its a bit unfair

  • Qsing is cheap ya right. I qs for a living! Lol not really but still. Add me xTurboSniper24x on live. Our hole clan quickscopes

  • and that is why black ops is complete garbage. bullet read is off, bullet lag, and not to mention graphics dont even compare to infinity wards mw4,mw2,and mw3. fuck treyarch. they probably just mad cus there not on any quickscopers level. lol

  • @Skandel32492 MW4 isn't even out...

  • Id like to stick somthing in your mouth

  • @RaZeSnurfle give Me your gamertag

  • its class its the man

  • Quickscoping is boss !!!!!!! and accept my friend request ?? Imma a pretty good qs and would like to have a friend of optic :) ha and its @ xopticsnipechuX hahah lol that la my gt lol

  • U guys r stupid quickscoping takes hella skill, play me in mw3, good luck just picking up the sniper and beating me

  • my friends and i created an all quick scoping clan on ps3 butit is just a clan tag send me a message on ps3 if u want to join. my psn is CoMbAt_CrUnCh

  • If you get killed by a quickscoper u suck dick. I go on MW2 nowadays and the whole race of quickscopers has died out. Am i the last left? Anyone out there? Just fags using tars and umps acting as if the games not 2 years old. Theres at least 3 noob tubers in the average game. And MAYBE 1 quickscoper who probably isnt event that good. It takes me 5-8 games to find one that actually commits to it and doesnt hardscope at all or whips out a secondary like a bitch.

  • @suppressorbeast122 please back up your statement of how it is so "overpowered" when clearly it's a sniper rifle, and last I checked, the purpose of a sniper rifle is to kill someone with one bullet(infinity ward doesn't believe in this though). Quickscoping takes skill, and, in my opinion, is the most skillful thing in CoD, you essentially have to kill the enemy before they hit you once, because the flinch that results from being shot will almost always cause you to miss

  • @iiEnDDo I LOVE YOU. It IS the only skillful thing. people who bitch about it just suck. Honestly, take NOOB TUBES out. I get killed by those fags 24/7 and i NEVER get quickscoped. Sometimes people try but most of the time they either hardscope or miss and whip out their secondaries like faggots. Also, Bolt aC. snipers should be 1 hit K above the waist no mater WHAT. Because a bullet that in reality blows limbs off should kill you instantly. Sorry buddy. your lungs are now 2D on that wall.

  • quickscoping takes skill. it took me a very long time to get as good as i am. i agree with h3cz. idk y jd would ever even say that

  • @A7Xfan598 instant 1 hit kill weapon at any range

  • @gequitz ok cuts Ur point

  • I agree quickscoping isnt cheap because it takes alot of skill to kill a person that is using a lmg,smg, or as and if you think it is go in a match and quickscope and if you died alot well it means you suck at quickscoping cuz u dont have the skill.

  • It's skillful and respected when was the last tIme you went into a game got a quad feed with an acr or famas and people in the game started going OHH ohhhhh OHHH OH MY GOD WHOOOOOA HOLY SHIT WERE YOU RECORDING yah I can't remember either

  • quickscoping is cheap all around it is so overpowered and extremely tryhard

  • What a debate!

    Well there is no " Skill " it's timing and patience... I do it all day, wake up and play MW2. But there's something you don't get, it's that Quickscoping takes as much ' skill ' as NoobTubing - how? It flies and takes time to hit, to close? Might not explode, but could impact. Hardscoping on the other hand, is a CAMPER that is 1 shot killing you. I don't see why your mad @ Quickscopers when their asshole with Mics. thinking their in FaZe or something; that's different!

  • Im torn in between. It could be fun and frustrating. Trying or dying. If he doesnt like it, maybe they should do a parch every once in a while instead of focusing on MW3. Anybody who wants yo play with me on PSN, the gamertag is the same as this. I am bad at quickscoping in MW2. D:

  • YUP HE DUMB WRONG

    

  • Takes skill? whatever, I could give a shit. The point is that its retarded bullshit faggotry, and they should just make it a cartoon with lasers and other goofy unrealistic shit as long as they allow bullshit like quickscoping and akimbo.

    No video game can ever be an actual representation of war, but I prefer a game that makes an attempt at being as realistic as possible. QS'ing and akimbo make a fucking joke for 12 year olds out of an otherwise awesome game.

  • JD20-20 the defintion of HATER

  • its not cheap its just fucking annoying when you get killed by some little tactical insertion bitch. I never quick scope but i know that it is hard to do. There's nothing wrong with the players it's a problem with the game. How can people expect people to not do something in a game that makes them better. This is why we have hackers. Shit happens.

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  • if quickscoping is cheap then what about noobtubes?

  • @25Xee And lets face it, it takes more skill than spraying like a complete ass with a UMP45 (which most people that bitch about quickscoping use 24/7) If you don't believe me, then why dont we do a 1v1, where I spray like a little bitch with an SMG, while you quickscope. THEN you will see which is easier to do. People like you that say its easy are mostly the people that wish they could quickscioe, but can't, so they just rage about it and carry on playing a way too easy game the very easy way.

  • @25Xee Well, you cant say its an easy one shot kill, because in a 1 on 1 situation between a quickscoper and a guy with an smg, 99% of the time you would win, because you can spray like fuck, whereas with snipers, you have to make one bullet count, what seems more skilful? Also, quickscopers dont have Xx, thats just fag 12 year old fags who THINK they can quickscope. No quickscoper would have Xx or Zz, its infact most of the little fags who spray with UMPs that tend to have Xx or Zz, you retard

  • well said my friend

  • WOW. Rage quit... Anyway i think quickscoping is skillful, even thiugh i deeply fail at it

  • dont understand where 'quickscoping is cheap' is coming from, you can get 1 sprays with m16, famas and all that kinda shit, but when someone quick scopes they are automatically a fanboy? lmao all the people who are called fanboys 99% the person calling them a fanboy wishes they could quickscope.

  • See much quick scoping on PC? I wonder why.......

  • I used to be a quickscoper, but then I took a HOOKBLADE to the THROAT!

  • i dont think anybody hates CHEAP SHIT more than i do...noobtubes,commando,shotgu­ns,ump.acr...camping(even patrolling an area)..bottom line,anything even remotely cheap pisses me off..i feel like a whore even when i go prone and camp for a few seconds waiting for my health to regenerate..but i dont think quickscoping is cheap..people are just salty cause they cant do it(and im not defending it cause im a quickscoper...cause im not)

  • you can bitch however you like but its definitly not cheap

  • modern warfare 3 suxxxxx! :( i regret i bought it instead of battlefield 3

  • Lol no it's not cheap

  • cheap way to get kills

  • @25Xee fuk u ur just mad u cant quickscope. It takes more skill than u think.

  • @GodofSnipers1 well in mw2+mw3 it easy as shi (NOW BLACK OPS SNIPING IS FOR SKILLED PLAYERS)

  • I respect Optics, I mean they were one of the first sniper clans but i hate their fanboys. These quickscoping wannabes piss me off

  • @25Xee urbandictionary right?

  • @25Xee you're not exactly true...i also pick up a sniper sometimes and run around quickscoping...mabe 1 out of 20 games it's fun sometimes^^ i think the people you mean do it ALL the time and call you a bitch if you don''t do it =)

  • Quick scoping does take skill, not much because if your aim is on them they have no chance. I think it's a fun part of cod though because it's just more fun getting a quad feed qs than using a full auto gun. So pretty much it's annoying being against someone who is good but amazing being that someone.