On the Ground: Values Voters Summit

[NoellaC25]

Lots of ignorant statements here about things you obviously know nothing about. When you don't understand the issue, attack the messenger. Not exactly a discussion - and going nowhere. Taking up space.

[opetr198336]

Yeah I wanna go for that football team as well... :-)

But on the topic... We need to harness these zealots but not let them hijack the tea party.... in principle they are the same kind of intolerant pricks that think they can tell other people how to live their lives as liberals are.

[jimwal2008]

"Pet your dog not your date"

WTF are they doing to there dogs?

[rextrek]

Typical republicans- scared of sex,scared of brown poeople, and especially scared of them thar gays. Funny 11 kids..LOL Statiscally he is bound to have at least 2 gays (unhappy children)..unhappy - living with a father/mother like them!

[UriahNate]

11 children , lol. Man what if all of us had that many ? "Hey, I'm procreating so I'll have more votes for my cause" . The sad thing is Ive seen this kind of thing, where the head of the household, the patriarch sets the standards of political thinking in the family , even after marriage , and the children follow suit without a thought. Ask why are you voting for so and so , and the answer is Im a Democrat/Republican and I hate that Democrat/Republican .

[beingisbecoming4]

Romney doesn't want you to know about this:

/watch?v=n5dscqcNOGM

[loosershate]

Neither Republican Candidate knows much about homosexuality. And furthermore Huckabee does not even have a strong enough faith to really tell Romney what he thinks of Mormonism which would cause a great spiritual warfare in our own country. The God of the Bible is very far from the Mormon god. Latter Day Saints use the name of Jesus Christ... but their beliefs are VERY far from Huckabee's Baptist (Christian) beliefs. Both candidates are bigots toward gay citizens and are not totally truthful.

[jsfumato]

Life begins at conception and ends when you need health care.........Ofcourse a christian fetus is more valuable than a muslim fetus ..Right?

[barnabaspark]

I vote for Huckabee who cares for unborn baby right.

[laleeloolelo]

Do you also care for the right of children to have access to health care when they're sick/injured even if their parent don't have / can't afford health insurance?

[barnabaspark]

Yes, of course. Caring for those who can't defend themselves like unborn babies means inclduing everybody who can defenselless.

[laleeloolelo]

I take this mean you also support the SCHIP expansion bill then.

[aphexmandelbrot]

That's the dumbest reason I've ever heard for voting for someone.

Bringing the vote to a new low; well played.

[jonathanwindham]

"and they have a lot of money, and they have a lot of power"

does anything about what he just said sound familiar to him

[politicomark]

If you really want to follow this guys "we will reproduce our way to victory logic", in 10 or 15 years we will all speak Spanish, eat hot chilly peppers, and carry Mexican passports.

[putittogether]

It is important to show the NAZI loving religious right.

[TAMARLANE]

Children=good.

Dead fetuses=bad

Life=good

Euthenasia=bad

Hetero marriage=good

Homo marriage=pointless

War against terror=good

capitulation to terror=bad

[drunkdecoy]

i really dont understand how "pro-life" people can be "pro-war"

[MKB2814]

"i really dont understand how "pro-life" people can be "pro-war""

It's all in the timing.

They also seem to the most hate-filled bunch outside of the Taliban.

[joebonk]

its the american taliban.

is it a surprise that the craziest muslims are fighting the craziest christians? how come they dont see their similarities? i think when humans colonize space, earth should be quarantined to make sure no religious people spread their brain diseases. or: all religious people are sent to a different planet where they can have 10000 kids and worship whatever ignorant bullshit and live in the medeival republican utopia they dream of

[n1temairdr1fter]

values voters = larry craig, mark foley, david vitter, and ted haggart...

[Whoo69]

So many fallacies in only a few minutes. I could easily debunk these guys, but it would take a long-ass comment, and I think I've made enough for one day.

[Whoo69]

WOW! Talk about a perfect storm of stupidity, as Bill Maher might phrase it. Well, at least all these idiots gathered in one place, so we could easily get rid of them later when they become too big a threat to our liberties.  Nah, I'm j/k. Or am I?;)

[Whoo69]

This values voter phenomenon IS relatively new, after all. And it's because Americans are way too conservative and stupid in all the wrong areas. Many of them focus on the wrong issues and are blind. Voters back in the day focused on real reform that was needed, not legislating morality, as useless as it is, practically and morally.

[Whoo69]

There used to be a time when the Republican Party actually cared, when it actually focused on real reform. Now it spends most of its time fighting for another useless, no-win war with Iran, cutting taxes needlessly because of some supply-side delusion, banning gay marriage, stopping abortion, denying dying Americans the right to assisted suicide, passing anti-liberty "security" measures like the Patriot Act, and scaring the people, and fighting "big gov't", hurting the poor and lower classes.

[Whoo69]

"Values voters" need to stop being so delusional and focus on REAL issues that matter: health care, education, the environment, etc. Not this whining about abortion, gay marriage, euthanasia, etc. that only further divides this country.

[Whoo69]

LMAO! "values" voters. oh, please! As if liberals don't have values. They just have DIFFERENT values. Besides, why do these "values voters" see the need to impose their agenda, through elected representatives, on the rest of us, esp. those who disagree and abhor your agenda? There is no "gay agenda" that people want to impose on you; it simply is the fight for freedom for GBLT people in this country. It is not about special rights.

[jonathanwindham]

11 kids?

[SpeedyBruin]

So for him having more children is like having more votes? I'm glad I wasn't anywhere near that gathering. With that much crazy in the air I might have lost it.

[joebonk]

its called dysgenics, the opposite of eugenics

[neverlookback75]

Seriously! I love how uninformed Republicans are. Plus with 11 kids, chances are 1 if not 2 are gay. Gotta feel sorry for that kid...growing up in such a "loving" environment. Hope he/she survives 'till their 18th birthday.

[shady00]

i've given blood a couple of times, and they do ask on the questionaire, and i'm paraphrasing, if you have had gay sex, and answering yes will disqualify you from giving blood.

[EmeraldView]

Scientific studies have shown that the MORE children one has, that those children born later have a much higher probability of being gay. So that poor fella is in for some SERIOUS soul searching. But then again he seems to be from the kind of scum that disown their kids who are gay. Which is all good because the siblings will rebel against the parents small mindedness and his hard right wing takeover theory will come crumbling down.

[TechnojunkFactory]

What the hell is this all about? Who are these people? Who is that voice-over woman?

What the hell is happening??????

[aphexmandelbrot]

"What the hell is this all about?"

Values Voter Summit, DC

"Who are these people?"

Your elected officials. Their representative lobby-friends.

"What the hell is happening??????"

Civil War or Bust.

[RevolutionaryJam]

Vote Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul!

[chadagg]

Raise our 11 children?! Goddamn.

[MrZippa]

11 children?!

[mikie1973]

this was a great video showing how closed minded some in this country are we should pity them

[aphexmandelbrot]

By "pity them", you do mean "remove them from office", "disenfranchise them as a country", "blackball them from holding future political positions", or flat out "assist them in seeking an end to this mortal coil" - correct?

[mikie1973]

YOU SAID IT MUCH BETTER THAN I KUDOS

[acseeley]

So you will indoctrinate your children into thinking in a closed minded, fearful way and hope that they remain so for generations to achieve what? The rapture? A swift hastening to the end of man is what you folks are advocating. I choose advancement and survival, and have 2 kids who will likely educate your youth. Or will you keep them locked away from information too?

[acseeley]

Honestly, such a small issue, and it is their platform? Pitiful.

[koch46]

RON PAUL

ANTIWAR

[koch46]

RON PAUL

PROLIFE

[scooter952]

to my fellow christians that might be watching this... tell me where in the bible you've heard something about life begining at conception?

[acseeley]

I don't remember it being too specific, but I do know that god has been responsible for quite a lot of dead babies, that is in the good book in several places. I think God may well be pretty liberal in who he chooses to strike down. God, after all, is the almighty killer who we should rejoice in when he takes our life. Right?? WWFSMD?

[scooter952]

brothers and sisters south of the Canadian border! your country is comming apart at the seams! come to Canada we'll love you be you a conservative or as liberal as our quebec sovernists! VIVA LA CANADA!

[canadian8703]

As soon as he said "and we raise our 11 children" i started cracking up, that guy is nuts

[scooter952]

these people need a new mantra! and this is comming from a fellow christian... im sick of people like this... even liberals this chickenhawk too i cant put up with...

[Darganot]

This girl is awesome! She does great work, you have a real trooper there Veracifier.

To see more of her work check in my favorites or search for the video "Fuck the corporate media"

One of the best videos on here IMO.

-I'd love be to on the ground, but nothing happens in northwest ohio lol.

[cobwebhead]

Darganot - "Fuck the corporate media" was well worth watching, thanks.

[Veracifier]

thanks!

and hey lots of stuff happens in northwest ohio!!! keep an eye on election stuff for us... we don't want an 04 repeat.

[copcorona]

end the war now.

[CypressHillSoldier72]

wait did she just say 'he's for getting out of iraq' like it's a bad idea?? huh?

[SLAVEforLISA]

She was correcting the guy she was interviewing. He didn't know his position.

[Veracifier]

naw it's a good idea... it's just they had no idea. my guess is they had no clue he stumped with biden, either. (imagine!)

[Mandrik]

And obviously your kids will grow up to be exactly like you, thus wiping out the non-believers.  Congrats!

[intarwebzz]

for real, i gotta have some kids of my own.  and wtf is the deal with men having the same # of kids as there are on a football field?

[Veracifier]

i think they're going for a full team.

[aphexmandelbrot]

"i think they're going for a full team."

I think the rules say you need 16 for a full Jackass Ball team. That should cover the lobby representatives.

[Mandrik]

I have 3-year-old twin daughters (4 soon), and I hope they aren't like me. I hope they are like themselves (if that sentence makes sense). :)

[SoBanned]

That was the scariest part of that clip. He's having children to spread his beliefs? Is he going to form his own cult?

[nothankyoumam]

I guess it's the only way he can get votes. Trouble is, he'll need more wives to actually get a bump in the polls. I'm sure he's already thought of that, and has some kind of Biblical justification at the ready.

[Blahcetera]

So, basically, we've seen

1. Made-up statistics (of Clinton's poll numbers)

2. Made up enemies (Homosexual Agenda)

3. Made up conspiracies ("Media are a fully owned subsidiary of the gay-rights movement")

4. Even made up Candidate platforms (Brownback opposed the troop surge)

This has got to be a rich mine for psychoanalysts.

[maluwelton]

oh wow, having babies as a political strategy to generate pro-values voters!

[dafttool]

Why is it that those who say they believe in values, think that is achieved by devaluing their fellow human beings, restricting the rights of women and gay people? How can somebody call themselves pro-life, yet advocate the death penalty and warmongering policies? Hypocrisy, know thy name: it is the "value voter."

[voiyour]

It would be more accurate to call them pro-birth instead of pro-life. Once the birth takes place, their concern is over.

[MollyNYC]

Not pro-birth--anti-sex.

As dafttool points out, so-called value voters' positions aren't at all consistent with valuing life; they're consistent with the belief that THEY are entitled to micromanage YOUR sex life.

And what are the GOP candidates doing there? In essence, they've come to assure them that, if elected, the candidates will make their dream of sticking their big fat noses into everyone's bedroom come true.