major scale - 7 positions

[osifomrygonen]

if i know minor and major pantatonic ascales and major scale. what is the next thing i should be lern?

thanks [=

[johnhguitar]

Once you learn any scale you should start writing melodies with it. Melodic minor, Harmonic minor, Diminished, Whole Tone/Augmented......etc.

[osifomrygonen]

?how do you know where you needs to start the next positions

[johnhguitar]

Just use the first one and move it around. Its first note is the root note. All the other positions fall into place by following that one around. Understand? Sorry for any confusion.

[osifomrygonen]

@ johnhguitar actually no, I am not understand why the 4 position is start at 1 frat?

How do yo know that the 2 position start at 10 and 3position start at 12

thanks for help [=

[osifomrygonen]

@osifomrygonen I think I know what you mean you take every note from the C scale and play his scale

I mean F is the 4 NOTE so is the 4 scale and its start at the 1 frat becuase its F ?

[osifomrygonen]

1. how you know where you need to start in the next scale

3. those 7 scales are correct just to C or I can use they in A for exemple

[johnhguitar]

Move the positions down 3 frets and you're in A. Understand?

[osifomrygonen]

@johnhguitar yes thats what i thought ' Intervals are the same(ton' half aton..etc) just in different places on the frat Board

[kewlmark72]

yeah, those are all the 7 but do you have a method for learning those positions???

thanks man

[johnhguitar]

I have a book out called 'Guitar Workout' published by Hal Leonard. It has a great deal of information about the C major scale and its positions on the fretboard.

Thanks for your interest.

[kewlmark72]

@kewlmark72 Yepp, I have that book!! It hs the tab and all, no great method for learning the scale positions.

What ys got ta do? Learn all the notes?? just wonder if there was a trick to it?? thanks dude,

[Oblivion3200]

should i know this for playing lead?

[meadish]

@Oblivion3200 The major scale is the 'reference scale' for Western music. So you should know how to play it, how many tones it has, what are the intervals between the tones, and how it relates to other scales. Whether you will use it for your lead parts depends on the style of music you play. The most useful starter scale for rock lead is the minor pentatonic scale. Learn all positions of that. If you have, then the major scale and natural/aeolian minor scale would be the next logical steps.

[johnhguitar]

You must be a teacher right? This comment should be published in every guitar mag and newsletter.

Well said!

Thanks

[meadish]

@johnhguitar Thanks for the kind words! I am not a teacher but something in me just makes me want to share whatever I have learned myself. To summarize the stuff I have picked up so somebody else can understand it also forces me to organize my thoughts. I'm a perpetual student of the guitar, and lately I've been trying to learn more music theory along with ear training, to get a new perspective and hopefully find my own true sound.

[letspla2]

would you recommend this type of guitar for someone who is a beginner and wants to play music like weezer and red hot chili peppers? if so, how much do you think i could get it for? if its more than $400 should i just go for a epiphone sg?

[ibanez641]

why do you downpick everything?

[johnhguitar]

When I just want to play simple stuff I go with a down-picking style using a lot of bending, hammer-ons and pull-offs. It's like hitting a drum on the top rather than striking up from the bottom. People might say they have perfect timing with their up-stroke but that's them and I'm me. I do this for me and not for them. Playing guitar is not a religion where we all have to file into a line to get slapped by God when we go our own way.

[disturbed157]

@johnhguitar amen brotha

[JuanAngeles326]

@johnhguitar You burned the Hell out of him!!

[palpalboys]

can i do this on every note???? i just started guitar.

[johnhguitar]

I don't quite understand your question. Every note besides the ones in the scale?

[palpalboys]

@palpalboys like, can i start the scale on every note? sorry for my bad english.

[johnhguitar]

Any note. No rules. Play them anyway you like. Make it sound good. Whatever.

[mountazeaicky]

whats the difference between diatonic and pentatonic scale? when do you use these scales?? thx.

[0JoshuaStromer0]

So i think you are playing modes here, wouldn't the C major scale begin and end on tonic, for example the D Dorian scale is exactly identical to your position 2 while playing in the Key of C Major. Maybe I'm mistaken but that is what it seems like to me.

[pbest75]

This is in C, is it just a case that if you want to play in say A, you start these patterns on the 5th fret or in G just shift down to the 3rd fret and so on?

[johnhguitar]

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[18alex]

so this is the most important scale in music ? and you can build other scales from this scale?

[johnhguitar]

How many pianos are there in the world? They're all set up with this scale and that's the white keys. Understand? The whole foundation of Western music is based on this.

[skate4lifepro]

@johnhguitar So your telling me, if the white keys on the piano are arranged correctly, you can write great music without ever using the black keys?

[johnhguitar]

If you strum a D minor chord and play a

C major scale you will hear the dorian sound......

[LukeChristopherTay]

Thanks, great lesson !

[robban97swe]

Omg, nearly 50 years of guitar playing... Btw, you like like 40;)

really great lesson;)

[18alex]

whats is the difference between c major scale 5 positions, and c major scale 7 positions 3 notes per string, i your other videos you are playing c major with 2 and 3

notes per string, why not use 3 note per string?

[johnhguitar]

I idea behind the 3-notes per string positions is the triplet repetition and the flowing result you get. It's good to know how to play these scales in as many ways as your brain can handle just for the sake of melodic ideas. The 5-position patterns from the Berkeley Method have their place as well but I don't stress learning those at first when you're just trying to memorize the fretboard.

[LapRound]

I love the SG's look, but I hate its sound. :/

[sjphs]

so which is easier to learn? major/minor scale or modal?

[johnhguitar]

They're all the same and have the same level of difficulty.

[sjphs]

which is easier to study? the major/minor scale or the modal

[sjphs]

which is easier to study? the major and minor scale or the modal?

[supatavi]

thank you for your videos they are always so helpful and the on screen tab is killer.

[goatnuts8288]

how long have you been playing?

[johnhguitar]

I'd like to say 20 years but it's been nearly 50. I should be way better but I surfed a lot and raised a family of 4.

[sjphs]

@johnhguitar which is easier to study? the major/ minor scale or the modal?

[gabo8907]

Oh woW! I just learned the 1 first position and I was able to come up with stuff with ease! Thank You!

[gabo8907]

Might sound weird and the position might be not in order but the point of this is to learn the whole scale in the fretboard. All of the positions. Ones you know that you can improvise better.

[paksidunia]

lol, your major scales sound weird..

[larwhelan]

Gr8 lesson the tab on the screen helps a lot! it seems like a lot to learn but am i right in thinking that once you know the 7 positions of the E scale you can move them same positions around to play the 7 positions of the other scales such as the A and B scales??

[johnhguitar]

With the guitar we can shift chord and scale shapes to different positions to find the other keys. It's a big study learning these fingerings but, as you said, once you're done you have the foundation laid for many possibilities that can't be available any other way. I spent quite a while studying but once it makes sense you apply it all the time.

[larwhelan]

Would you recommend learning 1 first and then the other 6 or learning all 7 at once?

[TheEthanhausler]

Can I use these in any key?

[johnhguitar]

You have to shift then into different postions. You can't leave them where they are for the other keys.......

[TheEthanhausler]

Like move them up and down the fret board right?

[gitaaaar]

If you play in C Major, You scale start with C or not ??

[JanzuS]

are these good for fast legato licks? i reckon that there's no easier way to play these patterns. is it true?

i was thought to play these scales without moving my middle finger and i guess it's good as long as i'm not shredding and particurarly not playing legato.

[johnhguitar]

Yes to all the above. This is the key to legato in my opinion.......

[JanzuS]

ok. thanks! :)

[mrracicot]

are these positions the modes of the scale....pos.1 being C ionian, pos. 2 being D dorian, pos.3 E phrygian and so on??

[johnhguitar]

Can be looked at that way but all the positions represent the different modes. It depends on what you have in the bass..

[mrracicot]

so what your sayin is i can play any mode in any postion depending on what i use as the bass note??

say i play D dorian is the root still C, just using the note D as my bass? the root wouldnt change to D unless I start playing the D major scale??

[johnhguitar]

If your playing a D Dorian minor scale you ARE playing the same notes as the C major only the root note is now the D......

[paraglidermx]

I didnt hear any egyption sound in that E so it probably wasnt the phrygian.

[johnhguitar]

What are you talking about? We don't understand. We'd be thankful for a comment.

[paraglidermx]

You answered and said it can be looked at that way,but I know phrygian when I hear it and I didnt get that feel, i guess its not the modes,its just a major scale,arent all the modes found in the major scale??

[johnhguitar]

Playing around with modes is just picking any note of any scale and using it as the root note of the mode. Example; the IIo (B diminished) of an A harmonic minor scale is a great sound for playing over that diminished chord. You don't hear people doing it much so it's seldom heard. Go down a whole step below any diminished chord and play the harmonic minor scale. G- for Ao, C- for Do

Thanks for the friendly reply...John

[lyticityl]

it doesnt sound 'modal' because he starts his scale on one note but doesnt end it on the same note on the 'high e string'

for example his "c major'" scale goes :

c,d,e,f,g,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,a,b,c,­D,E,F

starts on c and ends on f

its like putting emPHAsis on the wrong syLLAbles. might sound weird.

[johnhguitar]

Glad someone knows what their talking about. Now the question is, 'Are you able to play the guitar at all?'

[lyticityl]

i dont claim to be amazing but i play. i'm trying to teach my niece to play guit so i was looking for teaching pointers...stumbled upon this vid

[nickmaister00]

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[Exibur]

Wow pro lesson

[azdv]

Thanks for sharing this. It's a great help.

[AussieBoyX]

lovin the SG