Dam this nigga O speakin some real shit,if i'm happy n in a good space ima throw the nigga a bone even tho we dont fuck wit each otha no more just cause i can do it.Real talk my nigga..Jay a hell of a rapper but as far as bein a standup dude,the nigga is faded.All these niggas cant be lyin.I aint even mad at Dipset for throwin darts at that nigga in retrospect.Nigga only lookout for Bleek cause he groupied out!I kno Beans n em swoll as hell for ridin wit dat nigga,fuck it tho,u live n u learn 1
@29larron from state property to damon dash to dipset to memphis bleek to amil too sas ...too nigga snaked everybody ...except kanye cause kanye bent over the desk .... he even snaked dmx..........dblock........everybody now he fuckin with a white dude..willow smith and rihanna..fag ass devil woreshipper...he destroyed hip hop by not promoting real spitters
@BGambino1215 at this moment,it seem like he stickin wood to J.Cole too,everybody that was on that xxl cover wit him seem like they gettin they shineon but him.Yo Jay aint fuck Bleek tho,thats his man.Like i said dude top5 spitter o alltime but as a man,straight crab,fuck em
@29larron yeh memphis bleek just on his dick giving him shouts cause he dont want jayzz dont black ball him for any chance of him getting signed cause if he says sumtin bad about him jayz can easiily tell any record label not to fuck with memphis bleek thats what he did to beans.....he dont even shout memphis bleek out he dont fuck with him like thaat
@BGambino1215 ive been lookin for a song from awhile ago and i cant find it ANYWHERE. its oskino with peedi on the hook and i know its on a oskino mixtape i just dont know which one. the hook goes like ;They say the way we live our life, results in jail or hell. Grew up round drugs and homocide, pray to god it wont take us down......" if u know where i can find this song please let me know. thanks bro
damn..u could feel the hurt in jis voicve, O speakin some real shit rite here, yall lil niggaz pay attention, jay u let them illuminatti niggaz break up the hottest rap group ever, take it back 2 the streets ya heard
Don't Get It Wrong Jay-Z Is My #1 Biggest Fan No Doubt !
But I'm Also A Philly Nigga & Imma Fan of Oschino, Meek & Others From my City, I Jus Can't Believe What Jay Had Did 2 My Philly Niggaz, Yea They Mite Not Got $ Like Jay But @Least They Are Loyal Than Others Artificial Niggaz. Jay Z Really Cut Every Philly Nigga Off, Like Why Would He Bother Puttin Them on His Label, Then Turn Against Them, I Mean He Got Some of Their Styles From Philly Niggaz
That nigga jay z is a lil bitch though for shitting on his niggaz for real I dont respect him for that he need to retire already. Oschino didnt have a opportunity to drop a album
PHILLY NIGGAS IS CUT FROM A WHOLE DIFFERENT CLOTH THEN OTHER HOODS ACROSS AMERICA AND JAY Z KNEW IT. WE THOROUGH OUT HERE FOR REAL NO FAKE SUCKER SHIT OUT HERE. IF WE HAD LOYALTY LIKE THEM L.A NIGGAS IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT BALL GAME OUT HERE.WE SMARTER THEN THE REST WE JUST SNAKE EACHOTHER. BY THE TIME MOST NIGGAS FIGURE THAT SHIT OUT THEY ON THE BENCH OUT THE GAME AND NIGGAS GETTING TO A DOLLAR DONT WANNA HEAR SHIT.
U CAN SAY WHAT U WANT BUT O JUS KEEPING SHIT FUNKY...100%REAL DUDE RIGHT HERE..I DNT NO HIS $ SITUATION BUT IM FROM PHILLY AND MY NIGGA STAY FRESH AND KEEP A NICE RIDE SO ALL U NIGGAZ SAYING HE BROKE NEED 2 FALL BAC BET HE DOING BETTER THAN HAF U NIGGAZ ON HERE TALKING SHIT...U NIGGAZ JUS DNT LIKE 2 HEAR THE TRUTH 2 BUSY DICK RIDING JAY Z AND HIS SELFISH ASS
you gotta love cats from PHILLY thats real. after all the Ish that goes on in da streets in PHILLY , they still have brotherly Love. You cant ask for more than that. But you can get out and strive at the same time keep it in tact.
Tired of kats blaming Jay 4 taking songs when U crew everybody shares Ideas & on the come up you give songs to help the movement & shine plus Jay has way 2 many of his own hits in his catalog Jay can rock 4 more than an 1hr of own hits without touching any song they keep bringing up & for broke kats talking abt what they would do 4 people if they had 600Mill U fukin lying U going to feed everybdy when the money come the wolves come Jay protected himself/the weak kats in suffered
man FUCK JAY-Z he used every artist he had for his own benefits except Kanye west nobody blew up but kanye that's bullshit oschino better than Jay-z Beanie was better than Jay-z Nas was way better than Jay-z FUCK JAY-Z he been garbage since nas chewed him up he needs to retire
hes right about jay-z giving toilets to people in africa bein a publicity stunt, when its prolly homeless oldhead laying in brooklyn in a alley who use to buy jay-z bags of chips when he was lil
some of ya'll are making it seem like he's jealous. he's spreading light on the situation behind the fall of roc-a-fella and why so many don't give jay respect as far as the streets go. as an artist hov cold but what he did thats not how you repay those that looked out for you. i can't go out, do dirt for you and when i get back, you get the glory and all the pay but i don't get shit in return. not even a thank you.
@SweetSciencePiggidy "I'm sorry mama/I promised I wouldnt change me/ But I would of went insane If I had remain the same me/ Fucc niggas/ Bitches too/ All I got is THIS MONEY/ this will do. #Jay-z and he is speaking about these dudes who rap, and instead of taking it serious they want to be in philly banging out. SP had a buzz, and they were making crazy money touring. They should of reinvested in themselves, instead of relying on the Label.
@slim5poppa Correction. You hear philly rappers in Jay-Z's voice (especially Young Chris, that's who he stole the "whisper" flow from). Listen to Jay-Z's albums before State Property got with Rocafella and then listen to the ones after. Jay-Z's whole style switched up once he hooked up with them Philly cats.
@tryin2makeit ayo i seen you posted an okino song so im just gonna assume ur a fan.. ive been lookin for a song from awhile ago and i cant find it ANYWHERE. its oskino with peedi on the hook and i know its on a oskino mixtape i just dont know which one. the hook goes like ;They say the way we live our life, results in jail or hell. Grew up round drugs and homocide, pray to god it wont take us down......" if u know where i can find this song please let me know. thanks bro
Jay-Z doesn't want people to know his telephone number because with that number, they can get his home address. Then they can visit him with their guns trying to get his gwop...read between the lines people. I've seen it done a millions times. I've seen rappers get their advance ($), rent a mansion, invite their homies from the hood over, - and a week later, he's hog-tied on his living room floor and his safe his broken into.
@fnkdrmmr where did u see that??? and wen iz tha last time u think Jay Z had uh safe??? this nigga is spewin wut he knows n nggz KNO LOYALTY. alotta times bein loyal 2 yasself can keep u on top, thats wut J has dun n u can see it play out clear as day. in 2010, fones dnt equal addresses, neither did they in tha last 4-5 yrs (not uh technology buff just uh common sense analyst)
@clee926 Please stay in your lane. I personally located old friends by simply having their names, then I got their telephone numbers, and then their addresses. I'm not trying to get into a Utube debate over some silly rapper and his groupie. Get off the internet, the tour bus is about to leave.
@fnkdrmmr stay in my lane??? (bcuz that was somhow relevant to the conversation, & u finding old friends? that was relevant to right?) there was no debate I jus had several points of contention but I understand where ure obious hostility came from. Ime not uh fan uv Oschino as a whole, jus recognized several points that he made were actually credible & that the oppposite was true of yours...now plz exit stage left (i decided to stay in line with your barely sensible metaphors) lol
you sound stupid, since when do you give your home number to handle business matters???? dummy all jay had to do was give niggas a business number at one of his many offices. or fuck all that, just set up an account & deposit something in it for niggas to set something up for themselves. DUH!!! shorty that worked at def jam use to deposit money in an account for Cam'ron so I know it could of been done for them niggas too. BASICALLY MY POINT IS YOU MAKING EXCUSES FOR JAY.
@ChuloBadGuy Hey stupid. Stop emailing me. Keep your hip-hop fantasies yourself. All you groupies can stop emailing me. I guess I should have known better to say anything about a murderer/rapper. This YouTube thing is NOT that serious.
LMAO aaahhh you a dweeb ass nigga word up. you made your MANY MANY MAAAAANY comments to other niggas, I just hit U once & pointed out how ridiculous your logic is, thats all. point blank Jay did them niggas dirty, I've made my point alright Im good fam. 1
The crazy thing is that I love the movies state property and this nigga never really get to say anything and I never even knew he was a rapper. They put the wrong niggas out. He talk like a real street nigga and they put out the fake niggas with no cases?
What he said is what hoe niggas say,how you call urself a man worrying about what another man wont do for you. Maybe i grew up different, by i was taught to stand on your own and don't count another mans money. No one gave Jay-z shit, he earned all his money.
Same ignorant mf like Petey Crack, getting a million dollar budget for his album and blew it on partying.
Um...do you have a job? Jay was their BOSS!!! A BOSS PAYS HIS EMPLOYEES!!! everything them niggas are complaining about his shit that workers complain about EVERY FUCKING DAY!!! thats the whole purpose of having a UNION!!!! Jay was paying them niggas peanuts, you need a serious lesson in business. And another thing, just cause you get a million dollar budget doesn't mean shit, ALL THAT MONEY HAS TO BE RE-COUPED!!! You niggas don't understand how the game works at all.
Peedie Crack said, Jay gave him a million dollars to record his album and he blew all that money partying and renting a crib. I don't know what fucking job you know where employers pay employees and the employees don't render services in exchange. LOL at peanuts, and lol at everything being Jay-z fault, spoken like a typical mf who only blame the bread winner. Lets be real, none of them State Prop niggas were marketable or stars. Why u think Kanye blew up and they didn't
Did I say everything is entirely Jays fault & only he is to blame? No I didn't did I?
All Im saying is Jay took advantage of them, YES! PEANUTS! them niggas was getting $2,000 to go on tour, while Jay got millions. Im not just blaming Jay, I blame Jay, Dame & all the CEO's that had control of Roc-A-Fella & Def Jam. I just put more blame on Jay because he was their "friend". When you walk around calling niggas "family" that comes with a certain responsibility & ethics.
LOL so what the fuck do you think they deserved, a mil a show, i'm sorry but nobody went to a Jay-z show to see no fucking State Property. You think Jay-z didn't have to pay his dues when he went on tour with Big Daddy Kane, you think he was making big bucks. Plus like those mfs said, they also booked their own seperate shows and got paid that way, if anything Jay gave them exposure. LOL at friend, you think Jay thought LA Reid was a friend when he paid 5 mil to get out his deal
ok let me break something down for dumb niggas like you. 50 cent is the perfect example for what we're talking about. Nobody goes to a 50 Cent show to see Tony Yayo, but guess how much he gets paid a show? 50-80 thousand, and over seas sometimes yayo & banks gets $100,000 & better. And just in case you try and say thats because he's closer with them, Young Buck got the same, so did Game & the rest of 50's crew. 50 take care of his team, fuck "paying your dues".
So Jay-z is support a bunch of leaches, you sound like one of them dumb niggas who can't stand on their own and always worrying about what the next man isn't doing for you. How u call yourself a man when you can't do for yourself? Plus Yayo and Banks are 50 Cent friends before the rap shit began, them State Prop cats aren't. Jays peeps before the rap is Bleek,Ty Ty,Bee High,etc and they are still around. Stop the fucking crying about what someone aint doing for you, man up!
You're so predictable, didn't I just say I knew you would say it because they knew 50 before this rap shit. like I said, the game & young buck got the same shit before they were even known, so whats your excuse now?
because they weren't loyal, Game wasn't gonna ride with 50 with all his beefs & Buck been got exposed so you shouldn't even have to wonder about that one.
Naw Game and Buck wanted to stand on their own two like men are, something State Prop needs to do. I shouldn't say stay State Prop, because Young Chris and Free are doing their thing. 50 just controlls them other niggas, emberassing Yayo and Banks on stage like they are kids.
Game I will agree wanted to stand on his own, but Buck. . .you must not know about that situation if you think he not with the unit anymore cause he wants to "stand on his own" lol. And when I say its other people richer than Jay, what makes u think Im talking about rappers? the world isn't just full of rappers bro, who gives a shit if Jays the richest rapper lmao ooooooo so what? that makes him special? you dick riding real hard right now son.
and everyone needs someone when it comes to business, it's not possible to do business completely alone u retard. Jay needed dame to finance his career, they both needed Russell & Lior to help publish it. . . so wtf is your point? none of them did shit alone lol. and um, why wouldn't they complain about Jay wasn't doing for them? thats what jay was supposed to do stupid. Jay was SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR BEST INTERESTS AT HEART AS THE CEO OF THE COMPANY THE WORK FOR.
Jay didn't need Dame to finance his career, all three had money. Jay needed Dame to get in and talk to these record labels. To be honest, Clark Kent and Irv Gotti are more instrumental in Jays career more than Dame. Clark gave Jay to Dame, and Irv brought Jay to Def Jam. You keep talking about the past, lets talk about the present. Why can't Dame find another Jay and why can't them State Prop niggas blow up or get signed if they are so dope.
who says Dame is even looking for another Jay? There are many Jays to be honest with you, but not many people with Jays connections. All Jay is, is another nigga gettin money, he isn't something special that can't be duplicated. First off, theres nigga WAAAAAAAAAAAAY nicer than him so I know U not talkin bout lyrically, 2. it's niggas richer than him, so I know U not talkin bout money. OH you must be talkin bout record sales, & hit singles. . . FUCK SOUNDSCAN & FUCK VIACOM!!!
LOL who are these other Jay-z's and where was these connections when he was getting rejected from every label. There are alot of niggas getting money (Kanye,50,etc) but i don't think any sensible mf would say either one is near Jay-z level or is matching his catalog. I'm guessing these nicer niggas are some backpacking irrellevant mfs huh. Talk to me when these niggas make a Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint and make half the impact he has. No other rapper is making more money either.
Jay Electronica, MF Doom, Mos Def, Immortal Technique ALL are most important artists than Jay-Z. The shit they talk about probably goes over your head. You stuck in a bubble fam, I'd rather hear my people speaking about political & social issues than how much money you got, what fly bitches you fucked, and how many albums you sold. that shit does nothing for our culture & never has nor will it.
LOL just like i thought, a backpack nerd. Jay Electronica hasn't even released an album and probably will never just like Saigon. MF Doom is cool, but please the man has had no major impact on rap. Mos Def had a dope album with BOBS, and has release mediocre bs since, he needs to stick with acting. Immortal Technique, is a one dimensional conspiracy theory rapper and can't flow for shit. LOL none of them are deep, they just repeat bs they watch on the news and pander 2 u elitist
now I know you stupid. you keep talking about albums & sales are this corporate bullshit. you're too stupid to understand why artists like them never get the light of day, but niggas that talk that dumb shit have major labels backing them. And none of the shit they speak about is on the news so I dunno wtf you talking about.
you're a military puppet so I expect you to stick up for the bullshit.
If you are a great artist, your music will find a way to make it to the masses. Pac rap about political shit, so does Kanye, so does Nas, and so on. I love the fact backpack niggas like you act like yall music is too smart for the masses, when truth is, it's not good enough or etertaining. Alot of those underground cats don't know how to make entertaining music period, they sound preachy and condescending. I am in the UM law school, i am no puppet you elitist prick. Kick rocks!
You forget one of hip-hops foundations was teaching people as well as dancing & "entertaining". Ever since "The Message" certain artists saw the importance of teaching over dancing & acting like everything is ok. I never said it was too smart for the masses, just too smart for people like you who dont see it's importance & relevance in our culture. It's very entertaining to me, there's a saying "the dumb are mostly intrigued by the drum" u should think bout that sometime.
and one dimensional??? Jay & his whole team is one dimensional are you serious??? Ross,Jeezy & Jay are so one sided when it comes to lyrical content its ridiculous for you to even imply otherwise. all the fuck they talk about is monetary wealth, thats all they talk about. Jay Electronica, Mos Def & Immortal Technique are speaking about things that NOBODY ELSE on a mainstream level is talking about & wont DARE TO TOUCH. Killah Priest does more for our culture than Jay-Z .
Jay makes street shit (PSA), club shit (I just wanna love you), instrospective shit (You must love me), story telling (Meet the parents), music hiphop heads (Can i live), music for the hustlers (Dead Presidents), conscious (Dopeman),etc. Let me guess, you only listen to Jay-z singles and pigeonhole him as that right. Jay raps where he is at in his life, which is why Reasonable Doubt reflected dope game and BP3 reflected wealth. I doubt Immortal is out their fighting no battles!
I actually own every single one of Jay's albums lol. I've been listening to the man material since I was 13-14 yrs old. IMO Joe Budden makes better music than him, and Im dead ass serious. Jay makes music that sounds good yea, but read a lyric sheet, HE ISN'T TALKIN ABOUT SHIT SPECIAL!!! NOTHING OUR SOCIETY CAN BENEFIT FROM! AT ALL!!! Lauryn Hill is more of an artist that Jay, all the songs you named are good songs BTW, but nothing our people can truly benefit from.
LOL Buddens, i don't listen to emo raps and bland beats. Buddens aint even the best nigga in his own group, Joell Ortiz and Royce are all better than him. Buddens have no classic album and don't bring up no mixtape bullshit either (Mood Musik) and no impact on rap. Jay speaks for the hustlers from a introspective perspective, it's what seperates him from niggas who brag just to brag about hustling (Rae, Ross). LOL at u thinking society is benefiting from ur irrelevant niggas.
Almost all music is EMO, you didn't know that? I'm pretty sure Jay had emotions when he made his music & intended to evoke emotions from his fans as well so you sound stupid right now. Sorry but if you think society is benefiting from Jay' music than Lauryn Hills music, you're a freakin fool. No wonder people believe his music is some sort of freemason mind control lol, you sound disillusioned from reality.
By emo, i meant crying and whinning about shit, shit that chicks do. Jay-z lifestory is inspirational because he never felt sorry for himself or blame the system for his shortcommings (no father, being poor), he grinded for what he got. Maybe we look at life diferently, i don't want to hear about how life is hard all damn day. I want to listen to the dude who say fuck it, we are gonna make it. I'm no fool dude, i'm sure im more educated than u, im not into pandering music like u
Jay's life story is inspirational? really? the man has not a single friend in the world. not one honest friend. if he for any reason wasn't able to make them fat cats those millions you think they'd give him a second look? nigga you fuckin stupid lol. you call that success? worming ya way to the top just to get there and all you have to show for it is money & a trophy wife LMFAO!!! get ya priorities in line son word up. Money doesn't always equate success fam.
LOL so Ty Ty,Bee High,Bleek,Young Guru,etc aren't his friends, or are you talking about the leaches who are complaining what he doesn't do for them. Friends are people who are independent, no codependent, you notice all these so called friends only bitch about one thing (money). U don't hear them saying i miss my friend do u! One day when you grow up dude and make enough legit moves, u will see who the people r that aren't with u based on what u can do for them, that aint friend
what are you talking about, Bleek is in Jay's will lol. where the fuck is the independence in that? And you must not care enough to do a diligent search on what we're talking about because I've heard Beanie,Peedie & other members of state property say what the miss the most is just being that tight click they all use to be. Oschino has an interview on youtube saying that he dont want NO MONEY from jay, keep it all he wanna know is what made him switch up on niggas.
Your the mf saying Jay has no friends Shirlock, i gave you the example that Bleek is. All those people i named are people who were there before the rap shit, State Prop niggas are business associates. Beans is bitching about his contract, Peedie was bitching about that 900,000 advance he blew on his album and never turned his album in. We all know y Jay don't hang with them, they are reckless (shooting people, dust head, etc). U can't take niggas everywhere with u.
I agree with you there, them niggas was buggin & were liabilities for future investments, I get that. But you gotta understand, when you get a bunch of street niggas on ya team, send them niggas to go to war for you (Nas & The Lox) & you talkin bout "My man will shoot you" in ya songs, talking bout we La Familia (Family), you can't now say oh its just business with us. You coming off like a fuckin phony, how dont you get that???
Lets not act like those niggas were doing all this shit for free dude. Beans had 2 gold albums, on the HKL tour, and was getting paid and Freeway had a gold album. If anything State Prop should be mad at Beans more than Jay-z, he is the one who got locked up and left them stranded. At the end of the day it's business, Jay aint these niggas father. If Jay was a liability to Def Jam and not selling records, you think for one second his label wouldn't of dropped him.
point taken, but like I said, you dont tell niggas we family & have niggas doing street shit outside of the music business & then when shit hit the fan now you wanna treat niggas like we just employees. Jay was the president of the company when he fired them niggas, he could of kept them niggas on the pay roll just out of love, but I guess he aint have the kinda love for them like he claimed he did. personally I think his "new friends" didn't want him employing Muslims IYKWIM
I agree they probably felf led on, but what's this street shit he asked them to do. Isn't Jay the one on I NEVA CHANGE telling Beans to leave the street shit alone and we all saw how that turned out. LOL kept them niggas on the payroll, do you understand business dude, you must generate money for a company. Jay had a boss to u know (LA Reid), how the fuck would he look having to explain giving out advances and no album in sight (Peedi Crakk). Niggas need 2 seperate da street ish
He also said "I'll never make the news again, my man will shoot you" and that was AFTER never change was released, explain that? lol I guess you don't understand the "I am my brothers keeper" code. Fam supposed to come first, you supposed to make sure your team is straight before you go off investing money in other shit outside of the crew. Wasn't Jay the one that said "If your clique is rich ya clique is rugged, nobody will fall cause we will be each others crutches" ????
Why are u acting like Jay is asking Beans to be out in the street acting like acting like a ignorant nigga shooting people and brawling with dude from Major Figgas. Fuck a code dude, yall negros watch too many gangster movies. Live your life for urself and kids, and better urself legally. Why do u think Jay made it out in the first place, hard work and leaving all that dumb street bs alone. Yall dudes are too monolithic in ur thinking, and care about being accepted. Sheeps!
you still didn't answer my question, what happen to "If every nigga in your clique is rich ya clique is rugged, nobody will fall cause we will be each others crutches" ???? And I do live for myself and my child, I tell my niggas all the time leave that street shit alone and get a fuckin job. Im actually going to one of my niggas funeral this saturday who was murdered.
I dont condone that ignorant street bs AT ALL. Earlier I explained to you in detail what I believe is needed for our culture & society. But I also know the codes to these streets, I fucks wit real niggas who put that work in & live by those codes & street morals & I understand how deep niggas take that shit. So if you gonna tell these dudes you ride wit them and U gonna hold them down no matter what, THEN DO IT!!!
So what is he suppose to do bring these dudes everywhere he goes. Jay may have led to on the friendship tip, but is he suppose to drag the dead weight forever. You think these white execs at Interscope, Warner,etc give a fuck about a artist feelings or is obligated to them. I think where Jay fucked up is hanging with them, he should of maintain a artist vs boss relationship. I think u r seeing it now with Roc Nation, he is letting his A and R's do their jobs
exactly, I agree 100%. He straddled that line between business & friendship. had he established a straight up business relationship with them then I'd say ok these niggas is being big ass babies. but once you say we family, & got niggas handling your personal beefs then you look funny style talkin that business shit.
But either way he still a snake ass nigga no matter what you say, just look at what he did to Cam & Sparks, total bitch nigga acts.
And I'm sorry but everyone you just named currently WORKS for either roc nation or some other subsidiary company tied to Jay. Bleek does have a auto shop too, but he also runs a label that is published through Roc Nation. All Jay has is business friends, you really think if Dame would of came out with the upper hand & Jay would of got screwed them niggas would of left with Jay? All them niggas would of stayed with Dame or did like Biggs & Beanie & just went they own way.
Your a fucking idiot, what part of they were his friends before all that rap shit don't u understand. It was friendships before business and Bleeks label is not distributed through Roc Nation, the only label that is, is Star Roc by Stargate the producer. Maybe Dame was a fucking prick and why no one fucked with him now, ever thought about that. Yall need to stop acting like Dame didn't get his share of the businesses, it's not J's fault Dame made shitty business moves after.
Actually Dame bought back the rights to Roc-A-Fella & is currently getting the ball rolling again. Dip set is back together too, so its just a matter of time. And what is your point that they were his friends before??? you keep saying that like its means something lol. so what? Jay & Jazz were too, so was Dehaven, I know a couple niggas who fucked with Jay that live right in my hood that can go through so many ways they were shorted money too. Haph from the Ranjahz is one of em
Actually that's not true, it was some rumor started on SOHH or some webstie like that. He is managing Currensy and gave him a Rocafella chain, but it's not offical because LA Reid and Def Jam ownes the right to the label. You said Jay had no friends, i said the people knew him before rap is his friends. Jaz snitched to Nas, Dehaven is a known snitched who rolled over on Jay-s cousin. Why do u think those herbs r in the hood, no damn ambition,grown men don't bitch about other men
And them State Prop niggas were VERY MARKETABLE, are you serious? Do you know anyone in philly? I'm in NYC and even I know State Property & Major Figgas had Phily on LOCK! And not even just philly, State Prop had waaaaay more fans around the country than Tru Life & Tiera marie. Jay dropped acts that already had strong growing fan bases & signed Tru & Tiera who still are nobodies and you think that was good for business? Jay is a slime ball, just like Puff.
Marketable my fucking ass, they made street eastcoast music, white America aint tryna hear that bullshit. LOL at the tri state area, to go gold or platinum you need to sell in the all regions not no local bullshit. I love the fact mfs like you swear yall know the business more than niggas who have been in the game for more than 20 years. By the way, both State Prop albums flopped, and never even went gold. Y can't none of them dudes blow up now, it's been 7 years since it ended
so what, thats still open market. Im not talking about mainstream success, I thought you asked if they were "marketable" and the answer is yes. they aren't pop ready or arena selling artists, but just like styles p, ghostface & redman, THEY ALL HAVE AN OPEN MARKET. so what if its local, let them niggas eat locally. You busy thinkin bout mainstream success, but every major record label has small as well as big artist. . .you cover the board rather than focus on just one aspect.
Marketable means, having the ability to appeal to a large scale of people, them niggas aren't. You don't have to be pop to be marketable either; Big,Jay,Nas,Jay,Ouktast,etc aren't pop but they are marketable, aint no MC Hammer shit about them. What's stopping them niggas from signing to another label or blowing up if they are so marketable then? It's been 7 damn years, if they are as hot as you claim labels will be tryna snatch them up like them Wu individual niggas.
WRONG! BIG, JAY,NAS & OUTKAST ARE ALL POP. . .POP IS JUST SHORT FOR POPULAR AND THEY ARE ALL POPULAR LOL. You're just making up your own personal opinions now. And getting signed isn't that easy, Jay-Z didn't even get signed stupid, thats the whole reason why Roc-A-Fella was created, cause Jay couldn't get a deal, dont you know that? Just cause you dont have a deal yet doesn't mean you aren't marketable it just means u don't have a deal thats all lol.
bottom line when jay began his crusade to be the king of the new york post biggie he needed riders so he rolled when them philly cats.brothers who will pull and bust on anyone.but now he is a multi millionaire he makes a lot of white and established people a lot of cash.he don't need street thugs no more.you mess with jay z the feds will show up and whopp that ass same game just new soldiers.puffy did it to.that is some shady ass shit,but on the real at some point thugs can become a liability
You broke it down perfect my nigga, that's exactly how it is. and you're absolutely right, at some point thugs can become a liability. well said my G, peace lord
what that boy say if he had 600 million (like jigga has) his niggas would never be broke matter fact niggas he dont know wouldnt be broke oh boy jay forgot where he came from the streets where niggas hustle together put puzzles together oh but since he at the top that shit dont matter GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE
So, funny every one hate Jay cuz he got successful they did not. Same thing that happened to Twista and Legit Ballaz. You ppl should expect it to happen
Niggas need to stop!! Niggas need to take responsibility for what they dont and do accomplish!! Why should Jay-Z be responsible for a gang of niggas who aint just tryna make it but wanna live the same way he livin!! Come on man these niggas seen money and blew it; I feel him to a point but it's still sad......
@nawfmatic niggas didn't eat off jay plate cause if they did they wouldn't be in the streets if jay is a fuck up dude that fronts for ppl all the ppl the were close with him say it everybody aint hatin it something wrong with dude you don't see a nigga in jail atlease hit him off with some paper
thats why this nigga poor and Jay-z got loot different mentality cut from a different cloths they all aet off his plate like it or not , selling three hundred mixtapes and a gold group album... weak sauce and dame handing out money cuzz its his job they copt a company for that reason it aint Jay-z Job to go visit u in Jail cuzz u can't stay off the streets. its dames job cuzz he the nigga managing shit.
Some call Jay a snake for wat he did to dame, or beans, state property etc. I feel like he did wat he had to do, I wouldn't keep tryna push a nigga's album who couldnt get pass 800,000 recordz, fuck outta here. They call this shit a MUSIC BUSINESS u gotta master it for wat it is, and a lot of foul shit happens in that business but think about it, a lot of foul shit happens in tha streetz too. Itz not too much different, niggaz jus need to step their game up and quit pointin tha finger
O a real dude, talk real shit, fuck Jay, not his music, but the dude he is make me sick to my stomach to even support his shit, he shit on everybody he ever dealt with it seems
its crazy.. the nigga jay did alot for beans.. and beans was still on his street shit.. there comes a time u gotta grow up.. jay cant be responsible for a nigga all the time.. beans aint no young nigga
but beans did alot fo jay too if hes not gone change hes not gone change he knew dat out da gate how he was......but i do keep hearin bout hov stealin songs
Look at Meek lol
mkvl1490 3 weeks ago
That beat is "life story" by black rob
FredPiffstone 1 month ago
wat beat is dat during the interview
asia411898 1 month ago
Where was Oschino before BEANS put him and all them other niggaz on? He fed and burped you, nigga!!
jsmoney28 2 months ago
Where can I find the full song? This FIRE!
joechill002 3 months ago
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Isn't that meek millz on the right side?
DaDonTV1 4 months ago
Isn't that meek millz on the right side?
DaDonTV1 4 months ago
@DaDonTV1 yea thats him before he started takn rap serious
dmdpro5 2 months ago
real nigga here. a beast on the beats too.
bigdaddyvladi 4 months ago
whats the beat??/
DJKoopa1 4 months ago
Lol yea true that fam,u right about that.
29larron 5 months ago
Real nigga. That's a real nigga
oneoverjordan23 6 months ago
whats the song at the beginning
richhoods 6 months ago
Dam this nigga O speakin some real shit,if i'm happy n in a good space ima throw the nigga a bone even tho we dont fuck wit each otha no more just cause i can do it.Real talk my nigga..Jay a hell of a rapper but as far as bein a standup dude,the nigga is faded.All these niggas cant be lyin.I aint even mad at Dipset for throwin darts at that nigga in retrospect.Nigga only lookout for Bleek cause he groupied out!I kno Beans n em swoll as hell for ridin wit dat nigga,fuck it tho,u live n u learn 1
29larron 6 months ago
@29larron from state property to damon dash to dipset to memphis bleek to amil too sas ...too nigga snaked everybody ...except kanye cause kanye bent over the desk .... he even snaked dmx..........dblock........everybody now he fuckin with a white dude..willow smith and rihanna..fag ass devil woreshipper...he destroyed hip hop by not promoting real spitters
BGambino1215 5 months ago
@BGambino1215 at this moment,it seem like he stickin wood to J.Cole too,everybody that was on that xxl cover wit him seem like they gettin they shineon but him.Yo Jay aint fuck Bleek tho,thats his man.Like i said dude top5 spitter o alltime but as a man,straight crab,fuck em
29larron 5 months ago
@29larron yeh memphis bleek just on his dick giving him shouts cause he dont want jayzz dont black ball him for any chance of him getting signed cause if he says sumtin bad about him jayz can easiily tell any record label not to fuck with memphis bleek thats what he did to beans.....he dont even shout memphis bleek out he dont fuck with him like thaat
BGambino1215 5 months ago
@BGambino1215 ive been lookin for a song from awhile ago and i cant find it ANYWHERE. its oskino with peedi on the hook and i know its on a oskino mixtape i just dont know which one. the hook goes like ;They say the way we live our life, results in jail or hell. Grew up round drugs and homocide, pray to god it wont take us down......" if u know where i can find this song please let me know. thanks bro
potplant420 4 months ago
look at that nigga meek
dmdpro5 6 months ago
damn..u could feel the hurt in jis voicve, O speakin some real shit rite here, yall lil niggaz pay attention, jay u let them illuminatti niggaz break up the hottest rap group ever, take it back 2 the streets ya heard
illuminous09 7 months ago in playlist the roc
Whats this fuckin instrumental, that shit hot lol
BCannonThaMc 8 months ago
Don't Get It Wrong Jay-Z Is My #1 Biggest Fan No Doubt !
But I'm Also A Philly Nigga & Imma Fan of Oschino, Meek & Others From my City, I Jus Can't Believe What Jay Had Did 2 My Philly Niggaz, Yea They Mite Not Got $ Like Jay But @Least They Are Loyal Than Others Artificial Niggaz. Jay Z Really Cut Every Philly Nigga Off, Like Why Would He Bother Puttin Them on His Label, Then Turn Against Them, I Mean He Got Some of Their Styles From Philly Niggaz
Now I Lost 20% Respect Bcuz of The BS He Did !
Nigee19 8 months ago
meek millz lookin like ben wallace over there
704Hustle 8 months ago
meek millyyyyyyyyyyy
milionarii 8 months ago 2
When he asked why he cant ask JAY Z for $10,000...he said " you dont know his phone #"!!!
kingsultan8th 9 months ago
was oschino case self defense?
BLACKOPSPROTWIN 9 months ago
That nigga jay z is a lil bitch though for shitting on his niggaz for real I dont respect him for that he need to retire already. Oschino didnt have a opportunity to drop a album
AdTheDon 10 months ago
****** I know wouldn't be poor... and I'm black, theres no way. Thats real right there!
Oschino =real rap. Oschino= Stand up Man
rodiruns 10 months ago
Absolutely love Oschino!!! Jay came up of philly...State Property gon always be the shit....together or not!
1milanmarie 10 months ago
dame is a real nigga nd jay kinda shady
AfroTelevision 10 months ago 2
PHILLY NIGGAS IS CUT FROM A WHOLE DIFFERENT CLOTH THEN OTHER HOODS ACROSS AMERICA AND JAY Z KNEW IT. WE THOROUGH OUT HERE FOR REAL NO FAKE SUCKER SHIT OUT HERE. IF WE HAD LOYALTY LIKE THEM L.A NIGGAS IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT BALL GAME OUT HERE.WE SMARTER THEN THE REST WE JUST SNAKE EACHOTHER. BY THE TIME MOST NIGGAS FIGURE THAT SHIT OUT THEY ON THE BENCH OUT THE GAME AND NIGGAS GETTING TO A DOLLAR DONT WANNA HEAR SHIT.
rahaji215 10 months ago 2
MEEK MILL BRAIDS WAS WOOLING
LIVINLEGEND12BW 10 months ago
My nigga
Blokah1212 11 months ago
real recognize real....and this oschino guy is lookin familiar
fnunez1987 11 months ago 6
thats some rael shit
melvin1123 11 months ago
call of duty DVD xD
BLACKOPSPROTWIN 11 months ago
Anotha grown ass man waiting for anotha man to take of him. thats a sucka mentality how do J owe any of these niggas anything?
NICCAGE26 1 year ago
U CAN SAY WHAT U WANT BUT O JUS KEEPING SHIT FUNKY...100%REAL DUDE RIGHT HERE..I DNT NO HIS $ SITUATION BUT IM FROM PHILLY AND MY NIGGA STAY FRESH AND KEEP A NICE RIDE SO ALL U NIGGAZ SAYING HE BROKE NEED 2 FALL BAC BET HE DOING BETTER THAN HAF U NIGGAZ ON HERE TALKING SHIT...U NIGGAZ JUS DNT LIKE 2 HEAR THE TRUTH 2 BUSY DICK RIDING JAY Z AND HIS SELFISH ASS
gooniegunclub187 1 year ago
OSCHINO IS A NIGGA I WOULD TRUST.....
showtime516 1 year ago
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showtime516 1 year ago
Wats The Name Of The Beat Playing
MixtapeBeast 1 year ago
IF Jay-Z wasn't going to keep it real and Loyal to Jaz-O then everyone should have know he wasn't going to keep it real or loyal to anybody...
BigPrimo33 1 year ago
Oschino is a real nigga.Plain and Simple.
CLAIFACE 1 year ago
@CLAIFACE I AGREE
showtime516 11 months ago
shout outs to my nigga meek mill, in his bag
gatyer15 1 year ago
thats real shit
Jimmyblonco1 1 year ago
No one wants a single thing wit Beanie...be serious now
1ASMA3 1 year ago
I am a big jayz fan all da way from da chi but that's bull shit j come on man.
Ceno3000 1 year ago
Yeah the Mason shit got jazy -z for getting about his ghetto people fuck up......................2 much $ & fame going your head = jay-z
SorToro 1 year ago
This a Real nigga Right here
I respect wat he was sayin
Jayplayboy253 1 year ago
JAY ZZZ A nutttttttttBALL
guess215 1 year ago
Jay-z was hot way b4 he met any of them niggas! #stophatin
BklynzzFynesT 1 year ago
you gotta love cats from PHILLY thats real. after all the Ish that goes on in da streets in PHILLY , they still have brotherly Love. You cant ask for more than that. But you can get out and strive at the same time keep it in tact.
klevdav 1 year ago 2
Oschino was one of the realist that ever signed to Roc-A-Fella!
RoyleTheo 1 year ago
is that meek milli next 2 him??????
calibitch7300 1 year ago
@calibitch7300 yea
MilesBTv 1 year ago
@calibitch7300 Yup Thats Meek He Look Like A Kid LOL
309TillIDie 1 year ago
Tired of kats blaming Jay 4 taking songs when U crew everybody shares Ideas & on the come up you give songs to help the movement & shine plus Jay has way 2 many of his own hits in his catalog Jay can rock 4 more than an 1hr of own hits without touching any song they keep bringing up & for broke kats talking abt what they would do 4 people if they had 600Mill U fukin lying U going to feed everybdy when the money come the wolves come Jay protected himself/the weak kats in suffered
Scorp333 1 year ago
man FUCK JAY-Z he used every artist he had for his own benefits except Kanye west nobody blew up but kanye that's bullshit oschino better than Jay-z Beanie was better than Jay-z Nas was way better than Jay-z FUCK JAY-Z he been garbage since nas chewed him up he needs to retire
xspade777 1 year ago
freeloaders
jl2694 1 year ago
Wats Tha Name Of That Beat Playing
MixtapeBeast 1 year ago
@MixtapeBeast BLACK ROB- LIFE STORY or the origninal ROY AYERS UBIQUITY-SENSITIZE
prettebrownskin4432 1 year ago
This dude looks like an idiot.
indiaknoles 1 year ago
@indiaknoles Y cuz he speaking facts??
610KillaBoy 1 year ago
@610KillaBoy No, you're right, you both seem super smart. Sorry.
indiaknoles 1 year ago
hes right about jay-z giving toilets to people in africa bein a publicity stunt, when its prolly homeless oldhead laying in brooklyn in a alley who use to buy jay-z bags of chips when he was lil
slim5poppa 1 year ago
Why they wait so fucking long to air this out?Shouldda sold the songs flat out or signed to a good label deal.Retarded...dont trust nobody.
julioholderbusiness 1 year ago
some of ya'll are making it seem like he's jealous. he's spreading light on the situation behind the fall of roc-a-fella and why so many don't give jay respect as far as the streets go. as an artist hov cold but what he did thats not how you repay those that looked out for you. i can't go out, do dirt for you and when i get back, you get the glory and all the pay but i don't get shit in return. not even a thank you.
SweetSciencePiggidy 1 year ago 12
@SweetSciencePiggidy my thoughts exactly
Bentley90Phi 1 year ago
@SweetSciencePiggidy "I'm sorry mama/I promised I wouldnt change me/ But I would of went insane If I had remain the same me/ Fucc niggas/ Bitches too/ All I got is THIS MONEY/ this will do. #Jay-z and he is speaking about these dudes who rap, and instead of taking it serious they want to be in philly banging out. SP had a buzz, and they were making crazy money touring. They should of reinvested in themselves, instead of relying on the Label.
bestpickrus 1 month ago
thats real nigga right there!!!
jesus65able 1 year ago
REAL TALK *7
kellcamz 1 year ago
seee wat the music do to ppl.. and wat it will do others that want and hungry..for real hip hop...rap..!!
letevebe 1 year ago
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Some People get "HIGH" on other peoples misfortune while other people are made "SOBOR" by their good fortune
IllFlow100 1 year ago
is this grown azz man talking about another grown ass man paying his rent....
AEG1906 1 year ago
this nigga funny.. he should be mad at beanz if anything.. nigga u signed to state property...
MrQueenzNY 1 year ago
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slim5poppa 1 year ago
@slim5poppa Correction. You hear philly rappers in Jay-Z's voice (especially Young Chris, that's who he stole the "whisper" flow from). Listen to Jay-Z's albums before State Property got with Rocafella and then listen to the ones after. Jay-Z's whole style switched up once he hooked up with them Philly cats.
tryin2makeit 1 year ago 31
@tryin2makeit ya cause he started bitin other cats rhymes.
boi1da420 5 months ago
@tryin2makeit ayo i seen you posted an okino song so im just gonna assume ur a fan.. ive been lookin for a song from awhile ago and i cant find it ANYWHERE. its oskino with peedi on the hook and i know its on a oskino mixtape i just dont know which one. the hook goes like ;They say the way we live our life, results in jail or hell. Grew up round drugs and homocide, pray to god it wont take us down......" if u know where i can find this song please let me know. thanks bro
potplant420 4 months ago
him and peedi crack sound alike
eklipsta 1 year ago
I feel O
anthonyacelone 1 year ago
STOP PUTTING YOUR CAREER IN OTHER PEOPLES HAND OSCHINO........THEN U WONT BE SITTING THERE SICK RIGHT NOW
gbreppin 1 year ago
if you got jags and what not why you callin anotha nigga for a 10 stacc..where yo funds at ni66a
BluKush420 1 year ago
Jay-Z doesn't want people to know his telephone number because with that number, they can get his home address. Then they can visit him with their guns trying to get his gwop...read between the lines people. I've seen it done a millions times. I've seen rappers get their advance ($), rent a mansion, invite their homies from the hood over, - and a week later, he's hog-tied on his living room floor and his safe his broken into.
fnkdrmmr 1 year ago
@fnkdrmmr where did u see that??? and wen iz tha last time u think Jay Z had uh safe??? this nigga is spewin wut he knows n nggz KNO LOYALTY. alotta times bein loyal 2 yasself can keep u on top, thats wut J has dun n u can see it play out clear as day. in 2010, fones dnt equal addresses, neither did they in tha last 4-5 yrs (not uh technology buff just uh common sense analyst)
clee926 1 year ago
@clee926 Please stay in your lane. I personally located old friends by simply having their names, then I got their telephone numbers, and then their addresses. I'm not trying to get into a Utube debate over some silly rapper and his groupie. Get off the internet, the tour bus is about to leave.
fnkdrmmr 1 year ago
@fnkdrmmr stay in my lane??? (bcuz that was somhow relevant to the conversation, & u finding old friends? that was relevant to right?) there was no debate I jus had several points of contention but I understand where ure obious hostility came from. Ime not uh fan uv Oschino as a whole, jus recognized several points that he made were actually credible & that the oppposite was true of yours...now plz exit stage left (i decided to stay in line with your barely sensible metaphors) lol
clee926 1 year ago
@fnkdrmmr
you sound stupid, since when do you give your home number to handle business matters???? dummy all jay had to do was give niggas a business number at one of his many offices. or fuck all that, just set up an account & deposit something in it for niggas to set something up for themselves. DUH!!! shorty that worked at def jam use to deposit money in an account for Cam'ron so I know it could of been done for them niggas too. BASICALLY MY POINT IS YOU MAKING EXCUSES FOR JAY.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy Hey stupid. Stop emailing me. Keep your hip-hop fantasies yourself. All you groupies can stop emailing me. I guess I should have known better to say anything about a murderer/rapper. This YouTube thing is NOT that serious.
fnkdrmmr 1 year ago
@fnkdrmmr
LMAO aaahhh you a dweeb ass nigga word up. you made your MANY MANY MAAAAANY comments to other niggas, I just hit U once & pointed out how ridiculous your logic is, thats all. point blank Jay did them niggas dirty, I've made my point alright Im good fam. 1
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
PHILADELPHIA
Killadelphi420 1 year ago
O dat dude
N1ck1Sk123 1 year ago
The crazy thing is that I love the movies state property and this nigga never really get to say anything and I never even knew he was a rapper. They put the wrong niggas out. He talk like a real street nigga and they put out the fake niggas with no cases?
Hustle256Man 1 year ago
" I cant imagine having 600 million and niggas walking around me poor"
when he said that, thas some REAL SHIT...
JW2K3 1 year ago
@JW2K3
word!!!
T74G 1 year ago
@JW2K3
What he said is what hoe niggas say,how you call urself a man worrying about what another man wont do for you. Maybe i grew up different, by i was taught to stand on your own and don't count another mans money. No one gave Jay-z shit, he earned all his money.
Same ignorant mf like Petey Crack, getting a million dollar budget for his album and blew it on partying.
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
Um...do you have a job? Jay was their BOSS!!! A BOSS PAYS HIS EMPLOYEES!!! everything them niggas are complaining about his shit that workers complain about EVERY FUCKING DAY!!! thats the whole purpose of having a UNION!!!! Jay was paying them niggas peanuts, you need a serious lesson in business. And another thing, just cause you get a million dollar budget doesn't mean shit, ALL THAT MONEY HAS TO BE RE-COUPED!!! You niggas don't understand how the game works at all.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
Peedie Crack said, Jay gave him a million dollars to record his album and he blew all that money partying and renting a crib. I don't know what fucking job you know where employers pay employees and the employees don't render services in exchange. LOL at peanuts, and lol at everything being Jay-z fault, spoken like a typical mf who only blame the bread winner. Lets be real, none of them State Prop niggas were marketable or stars. Why u think Kanye blew up and they didn't
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
Did I say everything is entirely Jays fault & only he is to blame? No I didn't did I?
All Im saying is Jay took advantage of them, YES! PEANUTS! them niggas was getting $2,000 to go on tour, while Jay got millions. Im not just blaming Jay, I blame Jay, Dame & all the CEO's that had control of Roc-A-Fella & Def Jam. I just put more blame on Jay because he was their "friend". When you walk around calling niggas "family" that comes with a certain responsibility & ethics.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
LOL so what the fuck do you think they deserved, a mil a show, i'm sorry but nobody went to a Jay-z show to see no fucking State Property. You think Jay-z didn't have to pay his dues when he went on tour with Big Daddy Kane, you think he was making big bucks. Plus like those mfs said, they also booked their own seperate shows and got paid that way, if anything Jay gave them exposure. LOL at friend, you think Jay thought LA Reid was a friend when he paid 5 mil to get out his deal
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
ok let me break something down for dumb niggas like you. 50 cent is the perfect example for what we're talking about. Nobody goes to a 50 Cent show to see Tony Yayo, but guess how much he gets paid a show? 50-80 thousand, and over seas sometimes yayo & banks gets $100,000 & better. And just in case you try and say thats because he's closer with them, Young Buck got the same, so did Game & the rest of 50's crew. 50 take care of his team, fuck "paying your dues".
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
So Jay-z is support a bunch of leaches, you sound like one of them dumb niggas who can't stand on their own and always worrying about what the next man isn't doing for you. How u call yourself a man when you can't do for yourself? Plus Yayo and Banks are 50 Cent friends before the rap shit began, them State Prop cats aren't. Jays peeps before the rap is Bleek,Ty Ty,Bee High,etc and they are still around. Stop the fucking crying about what someone aint doing for you, man up!
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
You're so predictable, didn't I just say I knew you would say it because they knew 50 before this rap shit. like I said, the game & young buck got the same shit before they were even known, so whats your excuse now?
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
The same 50 Cent who wont Game or Buck out his contract?
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
because they weren't loyal, Game wasn't gonna ride with 50 with all his beefs & Buck been got exposed so you shouldn't even have to wonder about that one.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
Naw Game and Buck wanted to stand on their own two like men are, something State Prop needs to do. I shouldn't say stay State Prop, because Young Chris and Free are doing their thing. 50 just controlls them other niggas, emberassing Yayo and Banks on stage like they are kids.
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
Game I will agree wanted to stand on his own, but Buck. . .you must not know about that situation if you think he not with the unit anymore cause he wants to "stand on his own" lol. And when I say its other people richer than Jay, what makes u think Im talking about rappers? the world isn't just full of rappers bro, who gives a shit if Jays the richest rapper lmao ooooooo so what? that makes him special? you dick riding real hard right now son.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
and everyone needs someone when it comes to business, it's not possible to do business completely alone u retard. Jay needed dame to finance his career, they both needed Russell & Lior to help publish it. . . so wtf is your point? none of them did shit alone lol. and um, why wouldn't they complain about Jay wasn't doing for them? thats what jay was supposed to do stupid. Jay was SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR BEST INTERESTS AT HEART AS THE CEO OF THE COMPANY THE WORK FOR.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
Jay didn't need Dame to finance his career, all three had money. Jay needed Dame to get in and talk to these record labels. To be honest, Clark Kent and Irv Gotti are more instrumental in Jays career more than Dame. Clark gave Jay to Dame, and Irv brought Jay to Def Jam. You keep talking about the past, lets talk about the present. Why can't Dame find another Jay and why can't them State Prop niggas blow up or get signed if they are so dope.
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
who says Dame is even looking for another Jay? There are many Jays to be honest with you, but not many people with Jays connections. All Jay is, is another nigga gettin money, he isn't something special that can't be duplicated. First off, theres nigga WAAAAAAAAAAAAY nicer than him so I know U not talkin bout lyrically, 2. it's niggas richer than him, so I know U not talkin bout money. OH you must be talkin bout record sales, & hit singles. . . FUCK SOUNDSCAN & FUCK VIACOM!!!
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
LOL who are these other Jay-z's and where was these connections when he was getting rejected from every label. There are alot of niggas getting money (Kanye,50,etc) but i don't think any sensible mf would say either one is near Jay-z level or is matching his catalog. I'm guessing these nicer niggas are some backpacking irrellevant mfs huh. Talk to me when these niggas make a Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint and make half the impact he has. No other rapper is making more money either.
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
Jay Electronica, MF Doom, Mos Def, Immortal Technique ALL are most important artists than Jay-Z. The shit they talk about probably goes over your head. You stuck in a bubble fam, I'd rather hear my people speaking about political & social issues than how much money you got, what fly bitches you fucked, and how many albums you sold. that shit does nothing for our culture & never has nor will it.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
LOL just like i thought, a backpack nerd. Jay Electronica hasn't even released an album and probably will never just like Saigon. MF Doom is cool, but please the man has had no major impact on rap. Mos Def had a dope album with BOBS, and has release mediocre bs since, he needs to stick with acting. Immortal Technique, is a one dimensional conspiracy theory rapper and can't flow for shit. LOL none of them are deep, they just repeat bs they watch on the news and pander 2 u elitist
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
now I know you stupid. you keep talking about albums & sales are this corporate bullshit. you're too stupid to understand why artists like them never get the light of day, but niggas that talk that dumb shit have major labels backing them. And none of the shit they speak about is on the news so I dunno wtf you talking about.
you're a military puppet so I expect you to stick up for the bullshit.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
If you are a great artist, your music will find a way to make it to the masses. Pac rap about political shit, so does Kanye, so does Nas, and so on. I love the fact backpack niggas like you act like yall music is too smart for the masses, when truth is, it's not good enough or etertaining. Alot of those underground cats don't know how to make entertaining music period, they sound preachy and condescending. I am in the UM law school, i am no puppet you elitist prick. Kick rocks!
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
You forget one of hip-hops foundations was teaching people as well as dancing & "entertaining". Ever since "The Message" certain artists saw the importance of teaching over dancing & acting like everything is ok. I never said it was too smart for the masses, just too smart for people like you who dont see it's importance & relevance in our culture. It's very entertaining to me, there's a saying "the dumb are mostly intrigued by the drum" u should think bout that sometime.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
and one dimensional??? Jay & his whole team is one dimensional are you serious??? Ross,Jeezy & Jay are so one sided when it comes to lyrical content its ridiculous for you to even imply otherwise. all the fuck they talk about is monetary wealth, thats all they talk about. Jay Electronica, Mos Def & Immortal Technique are speaking about things that NOBODY ELSE on a mainstream level is talking about & wont DARE TO TOUCH. Killah Priest does more for our culture than Jay-Z .
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
Jay makes street shit (PSA), club shit (I just wanna love you), instrospective shit (You must love me), story telling (Meet the parents), music hiphop heads (Can i live), music for the hustlers (Dead Presidents), conscious (Dopeman),etc. Let me guess, you only listen to Jay-z singles and pigeonhole him as that right. Jay raps where he is at in his life, which is why Reasonable Doubt reflected dope game and BP3 reflected wealth. I doubt Immortal is out their fighting no battles!
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
I actually own every single one of Jay's albums lol. I've been listening to the man material since I was 13-14 yrs old. IMO Joe Budden makes better music than him, and Im dead ass serious. Jay makes music that sounds good yea, but read a lyric sheet, HE ISN'T TALKIN ABOUT SHIT SPECIAL!!! NOTHING OUR SOCIETY CAN BENEFIT FROM! AT ALL!!! Lauryn Hill is more of an artist that Jay, all the songs you named are good songs BTW, but nothing our people can truly benefit from.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
LOL Buddens, i don't listen to emo raps and bland beats. Buddens aint even the best nigga in his own group, Joell Ortiz and Royce are all better than him. Buddens have no classic album and don't bring up no mixtape bullshit either (Mood Musik) and no impact on rap. Jay speaks for the hustlers from a introspective perspective, it's what seperates him from niggas who brag just to brag about hustling (Rae, Ross). LOL at u thinking society is benefiting from ur irrelevant niggas.
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
Almost all music is EMO, you didn't know that? I'm pretty sure Jay had emotions when he made his music & intended to evoke emotions from his fans as well so you sound stupid right now. Sorry but if you think society is benefiting from Jay' music than Lauryn Hills music, you're a freakin fool. No wonder people believe his music is some sort of freemason mind control lol, you sound disillusioned from reality.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
By emo, i meant crying and whinning about shit, shit that chicks do. Jay-z lifestory is inspirational because he never felt sorry for himself or blame the system for his shortcommings (no father, being poor), he grinded for what he got. Maybe we look at life diferently, i don't want to hear about how life is hard all damn day. I want to listen to the dude who say fuck it, we are gonna make it. I'm no fool dude, i'm sure im more educated than u, im not into pandering music like u
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
Dude fuck outta here, more educated than me because we share different ideologies in music? really? LMAO
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
Jay's life story is inspirational? really? the man has not a single friend in the world. not one honest friend. if he for any reason wasn't able to make them fat cats those millions you think they'd give him a second look? nigga you fuckin stupid lol. you call that success? worming ya way to the top just to get there and all you have to show for it is money & a trophy wife LMFAO!!! get ya priorities in line son word up. Money doesn't always equate success fam.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
LOL so Ty Ty,Bee High,Bleek,Young Guru,etc aren't his friends, or are you talking about the leaches who are complaining what he doesn't do for them. Friends are people who are independent, no codependent, you notice all these so called friends only bitch about one thing (money). U don't hear them saying i miss my friend do u! One day when you grow up dude and make enough legit moves, u will see who the people r that aren't with u based on what u can do for them, that aint friend
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
what are you talking about, Bleek is in Jay's will lol. where the fuck is the independence in that? And you must not care enough to do a diligent search on what we're talking about because I've heard Beanie,Peedie & other members of state property say what the miss the most is just being that tight click they all use to be. Oschino has an interview on youtube saying that he dont want NO MONEY from jay, keep it all he wanna know is what made him switch up on niggas.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
Your the mf saying Jay has no friends Shirlock, i gave you the example that Bleek is. All those people i named are people who were there before the rap shit, State Prop niggas are business associates. Beans is bitching about his contract, Peedie was bitching about that 900,000 advance he blew on his album and never turned his album in. We all know y Jay don't hang with them, they are reckless (shooting people, dust head, etc). U can't take niggas everywhere with u.
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
I agree with you there, them niggas was buggin & were liabilities for future investments, I get that. But you gotta understand, when you get a bunch of street niggas on ya team, send them niggas to go to war for you (Nas & The Lox) & you talkin bout "My man will shoot you" in ya songs, talking bout we La Familia (Family), you can't now say oh its just business with us. You coming off like a fuckin phony, how dont you get that???
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
Lets not act like those niggas were doing all this shit for free dude. Beans had 2 gold albums, on the HKL tour, and was getting paid and Freeway had a gold album. If anything State Prop should be mad at Beans more than Jay-z, he is the one who got locked up and left them stranded. At the end of the day it's business, Jay aint these niggas father. If Jay was a liability to Def Jam and not selling records, you think for one second his label wouldn't of dropped him.
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
point taken, but like I said, you dont tell niggas we family & have niggas doing street shit outside of the music business & then when shit hit the fan now you wanna treat niggas like we just employees. Jay was the president of the company when he fired them niggas, he could of kept them niggas on the pay roll just out of love, but I guess he aint have the kinda love for them like he claimed he did. personally I think his "new friends" didn't want him employing Muslims IYKWIM
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
I agree they probably felf led on, but what's this street shit he asked them to do. Isn't Jay the one on I NEVA CHANGE telling Beans to leave the street shit alone and we all saw how that turned out. LOL kept them niggas on the payroll, do you understand business dude, you must generate money for a company. Jay had a boss to u know (LA Reid), how the fuck would he look having to explain giving out advances and no album in sight (Peedi Crakk). Niggas need 2 seperate da street ish
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
He also said "I'll never make the news again, my man will shoot you" and that was AFTER never change was released, explain that? lol I guess you don't understand the "I am my brothers keeper" code. Fam supposed to come first, you supposed to make sure your team is straight before you go off investing money in other shit outside of the crew. Wasn't Jay the one that said "If your clique is rich ya clique is rugged, nobody will fall cause we will be each others crutches" ????
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
Why are u acting like Jay is asking Beans to be out in the street acting like acting like a ignorant nigga shooting people and brawling with dude from Major Figgas. Fuck a code dude, yall negros watch too many gangster movies. Live your life for urself and kids, and better urself legally. Why do u think Jay made it out in the first place, hard work and leaving all that dumb street bs alone. Yall dudes are too monolithic in ur thinking, and care about being accepted. Sheeps!
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
you still didn't answer my question, what happen to "If every nigga in your clique is rich ya clique is rugged, nobody will fall cause we will be each others crutches" ???? And I do live for myself and my child, I tell my niggas all the time leave that street shit alone and get a fuckin job. Im actually going to one of my niggas funeral this saturday who was murdered.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
I dont condone that ignorant street bs AT ALL. Earlier I explained to you in detail what I believe is needed for our culture & society. But I also know the codes to these streets, I fucks wit real niggas who put that work in & live by those codes & street morals & I understand how deep niggas take that shit. So if you gonna tell these dudes you ride wit them and U gonna hold them down no matter what, THEN DO IT!!!
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
So what is he suppose to do bring these dudes everywhere he goes. Jay may have led to on the friendship tip, but is he suppose to drag the dead weight forever. You think these white execs at Interscope, Warner,etc give a fuck about a artist feelings or is obligated to them. I think where Jay fucked up is hanging with them, he should of maintain a artist vs boss relationship. I think u r seeing it now with Roc Nation, he is letting his A and R's do their jobs
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
exactly, I agree 100%. He straddled that line between business & friendship. had he established a straight up business relationship with them then I'd say ok these niggas is being big ass babies. but once you say we family, & got niggas handling your personal beefs then you look funny style talkin that business shit.
But either way he still a snake ass nigga no matter what you say, just look at what he did to Cam & Sparks, total bitch nigga acts.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
And I'm sorry but everyone you just named currently WORKS for either roc nation or some other subsidiary company tied to Jay. Bleek does have a auto shop too, but he also runs a label that is published through Roc Nation. All Jay has is business friends, you really think if Dame would of came out with the upper hand & Jay would of got screwed them niggas would of left with Jay? All them niggas would of stayed with Dame or did like Biggs & Beanie & just went they own way.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
Your a fucking idiot, what part of they were his friends before all that rap shit don't u understand. It was friendships before business and Bleeks label is not distributed through Roc Nation, the only label that is, is Star Roc by Stargate the producer. Maybe Dame was a fucking prick and why no one fucked with him now, ever thought about that. Yall need to stop acting like Dame didn't get his share of the businesses, it's not J's fault Dame made shitty business moves after.
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
Actually Dame bought back the rights to Roc-A-Fella & is currently getting the ball rolling again. Dip set is back together too, so its just a matter of time. And what is your point that they were his friends before??? you keep saying that like its means something lol. so what? Jay & Jazz were too, so was Dehaven, I know a couple niggas who fucked with Jay that live right in my hood that can go through so many ways they were shorted money too. Haph from the Ranjahz is one of em
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
Actually that's not true, it was some rumor started on SOHH or some webstie like that. He is managing Currensy and gave him a Rocafella chain, but it's not offical because LA Reid and Def Jam ownes the right to the label. You said Jay had no friends, i said the people knew him before rap is his friends. Jaz snitched to Nas, Dehaven is a known snitched who rolled over on Jay-s cousin. Why do u think those herbs r in the hood, no damn ambition,grown men don't bitch about other men
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
And them State Prop niggas were VERY MARKETABLE, are you serious? Do you know anyone in philly? I'm in NYC and even I know State Property & Major Figgas had Phily on LOCK! And not even just philly, State Prop had waaaaay more fans around the country than Tru Life & Tiera marie. Jay dropped acts that already had strong growing fan bases & signed Tru & Tiera who still are nobodies and you think that was good for business? Jay is a slime ball, just like Puff.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
Marketable my fucking ass, they made street eastcoast music, white America aint tryna hear that bullshit. LOL at the tri state area, to go gold or platinum you need to sell in the all regions not no local bullshit. I love the fact mfs like you swear yall know the business more than niggas who have been in the game for more than 20 years. By the way, both State Prop albums flopped, and never even went gold. Y can't none of them dudes blow up now, it's been 7 years since it ended
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
so what, thats still open market. Im not talking about mainstream success, I thought you asked if they were "marketable" and the answer is yes. they aren't pop ready or arena selling artists, but just like styles p, ghostface & redman, THEY ALL HAVE AN OPEN MARKET. so what if its local, let them niggas eat locally. You busy thinkin bout mainstream success, but every major record label has small as well as big artist. . .you cover the board rather than focus on just one aspect.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
@ChuloBadGuy
Marketable means, having the ability to appeal to a large scale of people, them niggas aren't. You don't have to be pop to be marketable either; Big,Jay,Nas,Jay,Ouktast,etc aren't pop but they are marketable, aint no MC Hammer shit about them. What's stopping them niggas from signing to another label or blowing up if they are so marketable then? It's been 7 damn years, if they are as hot as you claim labels will be tryna snatch them up like them Wu individual niggas.
usmarineoneil 1 year ago
@usmarineoneil
WRONG! BIG, JAY,NAS & OUTKAST ARE ALL POP. . .POP IS JUST SHORT FOR POPULAR AND THEY ARE ALL POPULAR LOL. You're just making up your own personal opinions now. And getting signed isn't that easy, Jay-Z didn't even get signed stupid, thats the whole reason why Roc-A-Fella was created, cause Jay couldn't get a deal, dont you know that? Just cause you dont have a deal yet doesn't mean you aren't marketable it just means u don't have a deal thats all lol.
Jay is the prime example.
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
Oschino sayin so real shit
BangEmUpKid 1 year ago
Philly All Day !!!
Aishah215 1 year ago
FUCK DAT NIGGA!!!!!!
daddysgirl1002 1 year ago
bottom line when jay began his crusade to be the king of the new york post biggie he needed riders so he rolled when them philly cats.brothers who will pull and bust on anyone.but now he is a multi millionaire he makes a lot of white and established people a lot of cash.he don't need street thugs no more.you mess with jay z the feds will show up and whopp that ass same game just new soldiers.puffy did it to.that is some shady ass shit,but on the real at some point thugs can become a liability
blessedguard71 1 year ago
@blessedguard71
You broke it down perfect my nigga, that's exactly how it is. and you're absolutely right, at some point thugs can become a liability. well said my G, peace lord
ChuloBadGuy 1 year ago
Meek Millz beside OS...philly represent!
originaltamil 1 year ago
what that boy say if he had 600 million (like jigga has) his niggas would never be broke matter fact niggas he dont know wouldnt be broke oh boy jay forgot where he came from the streets where niggas hustle together put puzzles together oh but since he at the top that shit dont matter GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE
KingJoffeJow 1 year ago 7
@KingJoffeJow see wat the music do to ppl.. and wat it will do others that want and hungry..for real hip hop...rap..!!
letevebe 1 year ago
does any1 knows the music n the baqckground durin the interview
Super7mile313 1 year ago
@Super7mile313 dont know the original song but O.C. has a song called Hypocrite uses the same beat a little bit of faster but identicle
JAMEVINUN 1 year ago
@Super7mile313 i 4 got the name of the song but its a jay-z track and guru produced it..it mite be on blueprint
lilvick3 1 year ago
oschino got you niggas fooled.. we got kicked out of the u.s. millitary i 97
ft. mcclellan alabama 54 bravo.
i got the pics still bitches SPILLER >>PINE BLUFF ARKANSAS
TEST ME!!! PROOF IN THE PUDDING stop fronting.
you aint have all them tas and shitt then PRIVATE ULMAR ALWAN!!!
cheapskatedamack 1 year ago
@cheapskatedamack dudes change
RichyJA 1 year ago
meek millz
FukYoCouchNugga 1 year ago
So, funny every one hate Jay cuz he got successful they did not. Same thing that happened to Twista and Legit Ballaz. You ppl should expect it to happen
SAQHERT 1 year ago
Niggas need to stop!! Niggas need to take responsibility for what they dont and do accomplish!! Why should Jay-Z be responsible for a gang of niggas who aint just tryna make it but wanna live the same way he livin!! Come on man these niggas seen money and blew it; I feel him to a point but it's still sad......
RastaShotta87 1 year ago
@nawfmatic niggas didn't eat off jay plate cause if they did they wouldn't be in the streets if jay is a fuck up dude that fronts for ppl all the ppl the were close with him say it everybody aint hatin it something wrong with dude you don't see a nigga in jail atlease hit him off with some paper
MrWARBUCKS24 1 year ago
thats why this nigga poor and Jay-z got loot different mentality cut from a different cloths they all aet off his plate like it or not , selling three hundred mixtapes and a gold group album... weak sauce and dame handing out money cuzz its his job they copt a company for that reason it aint Jay-z Job to go visit u in Jail cuzz u can't stay off the streets. its dames job cuzz he the nigga managing shit.
NAWFMATIC 1 year ago
real talk but i don't know why he would compare moving bricks to Ramona Africa. But he is right real life still exist beyond that rap shit.
kahjee 1 year ago
Some call Jay a snake for wat he did to dame, or beans, state property etc. I feel like he did wat he had to do, I wouldn't keep tryna push a nigga's album who couldnt get pass 800,000 recordz, fuck outta here. They call this shit a MUSIC BUSINESS u gotta master it for wat it is, and a lot of foul shit happens in that business but think about it, a lot of foul shit happens in tha streetz too. Itz not too much different, niggaz jus need to step their game up and quit pointin tha finger
mickeyb4340 1 year ago
O a real dude, talk real shit, fuck Jay, not his music, but the dude he is make me sick to my stomach to even support his shit, he shit on everybody he ever dealt with it seems
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Aakashw 1 year ago
its crazy.. the nigga jay did alot for beans.. and beans was still on his street shit.. there comes a time u gotta grow up.. jay cant be responsible for a nigga all the time.. beans aint no young nigga
MrQueenzNY 1 year ago
but beans did alot fo jay too if hes not gone change hes not gone change he knew dat out da gate how he was......but i do keep hearin bout hov stealin songs
lilpotenjal10 1 year ago
how u can niggas b calllin Jay a snake lol.. u niggas kill me man
MrQueenzNY 1 year ago