@gaymuhamad Actually, I was thinking the same thing... why go Mutas against Goliath, and why not go Valks against the Mutas?
However, SC1 doesn't have as many hard hard counters like SC2 does. Mutas can basically win you the game without even engaging the enemy's army if you micro right.
And Valkyries would have been a good idea, but Yellow can easily transition to Hydras. If he made a lot of Valkyries, theyd become useless, and Mutas can actually kill Valks fast.
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Despite being the best player ever, his record was only like 500-300 or something like that. so although he won most of his sets, it wasn't uncommon for him to lose an individual game.
nah not a good game i think.against muta goliath is useless.they gave a big damage to terrans economy.and why insist on goliaths?valkyries are expensive but may be irrate or something fast at least
Wow thougth the muta would have bein slaterd. but since boxer was kept on the back foot and Yellow had map controll he could just use the muta's speed to his advantage. i think that if boxer had just gone for the attack on yellow's main i think he could of won. This is all IMO.
yellow had like 5 expansions and boxer was struggling to just hold onto his 3. goliaths werent exactly a bad thing to do but with 2x the resources, yellow just overwelmed boxer. and y didnt boxer even try to scout out yellow? just my opinion anyways
didnt u hear the thing? (the terran Command Center add-on, first one enabled by the Academy) forgot it's name... but he was scanning for yellow and just missed :(
yellow played smart... mutalisk > goliaths in numbers... plus the fact the map is really big and the expantions are further from the main.. it was hard for boxer to defend his main .. that was awsome :)
VioleTAK, how come these matches are split into two separate VODs? I've seen YouTube videos that go for 45 minutes whose quality was sufficient to make out what was happening. Also, if anyone can answer this, what's so funny at 1:10? (I don't speak Korean)
Massing Goliaths was really the smart thing to do this game though. That way, he coul have some air-killers against the Multas. If he would have used marines, tanks, and medics this game, he would have died much sooner.
y didnt yellow just tech to mass gaurdians? Boxer didnt have any air buildings up and because of gaurdians range he coulda raped towers, golaiths, and everything all togethor...
Mass muta is the counter to terran mech, as long as you can get enough gas to support it (which yellow did with 3 hidden gas expos), he can continue to abuse muta's mobility.
Exactly. Boxer apparently thought he could outmass YellOw with gols because YellOw couldn't fast expand. The only thing terran can do after mass gol vs. mut is valkyires which cost so many minerals that zerg can just switch to mass hydra or irradiate which I've never played against but I'm guessing 2 gas can't support it.
The matches of SlayerS_`BoxeR` and YellOw were of course more special and entertaining...they were really 5 awesome matches...not only 3 fast ones...thats why he losed fast against Savior...SlayerS_`BoxeR` wanted to give a 100% vs YellOw...SlayerS_`BoxeR` and YellOw gave an also great final match in the WCG 2002...this Superfight match will be remembered by all SlayerS_`BoxeR` fans as one of the greatest of his career...this is indeed an awesome finale...
that was really weird seeing boxer pushed back like that... he did well moving the SCV into the base to keep 'em busy, but it's weird he didn't follow up with a marine/firebat/medic rush...
in the few vids I've seen, I've never seen Boxer get pushed back... it was definitely a good game, best of luck to him
Looks weird that terran loses to mutas by doing nothing else than goliaths the whole game. Some more experienced VOD watcher could reveal if this is possibly map balance issue or was mass goliath not the best counter for zerg mass air in these circumstances?
goliaths only do half damage to mutas anyway because of their light armor...i think boxer would've been better off with marines and valks and fewer goliaths.
2 valkrie would have made the differance
gaymuhamad 11 months ago
@gaymuhamad Actually, I was thinking the same thing... why go Mutas against Goliath, and why not go Valks against the Mutas?
However, SC1 doesn't have as many hard hard counters like SC2 does. Mutas can basically win you the game without even engaging the enemy's army if you micro right.
And Valkyries would have been a good idea, but Yellow can easily transition to Hydras. If he made a lot of Valkyries, theyd become useless, and Mutas can actually kill Valks fast.
wc1hater 5 months ago
why did yellow insist on mutalisk despite boxer having tons of anti air stuff?
Razz1024 1 year ago
@Razz1024 well it worked
jeehoondevil 1 year ago
OHHHH COMMAND CENTER!!
8:30
entaroduai 2 years ago
D: his command center actually got infested
SdfuNoob 2 years ago
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nice :3 but make english commentary please i ddint understand a shit to those korean. plx ...
JaffarxD 3 years ago
go learn it then -_-
dhp1161 2 years ago
he is gonna learn korean only to understand this game ???--__--
PD:plz put your videos whit an english commentary or spanish better
darkben 2 years ago
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stivenhoking2 3 years ago
they were really stubborn about unit choice in this game...
dualkeybladeroxas 3 years ago
micke ramone you fucking asshole, you leave lots of space after the spoiler notice.
standbackguy 3 years ago
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***SPOILER***
wow, Ive NEVER seen boxer loose a game before!
MickeRamone 4 years ago
Despite being the best player ever, his record was only like 500-300 or something like that. so although he won most of his sets, it wasn't uncommon for him to lose an individual game.
dualkeybladeroxas 3 years ago
actually he loses as every player does but he doesnt lose against a zerg very often.amazing game
frydooo 3 years ago
nah not a good game i think.against muta goliath is useless.they gave a big damage to terrans economy.and why insist on goliaths?valkyries are expensive but may be irrate or something fast at least
tyrianss 4 years ago
all you need is like 3 valks to take out an entire muta swarm.
SilverCrusader2 3 years ago
and all u need is 6 scourge to take out 3 valks :)
woogynie 2 years ago
if there are enough valkyries, scourges become useless, especially against accomplished players like boxer.
chopinandliszt 2 years ago
Wow thougth the muta would have bein slaterd. but since boxer was kept on the back foot and Yellow had map controll he could just use the muta's speed to his advantage. i think that if boxer had just gone for the attack on yellow's main i think he could of won. This is all IMO.
xMonkFishx 4 years ago
yellow had like 5 expansions and boxer was struggling to just hold onto his 3. goliaths werent exactly a bad thing to do but with 2x the resources, yellow just overwelmed boxer. and y didnt boxer even try to scout out yellow? just my opinion anyways
xvfjhkdvjdhk 4 years ago
didnt u hear the thing? (the terran Command Center add-on, first one enabled by the Academy) forgot it's name... but he was scanning for yellow and just missed :(
tehweirdo321 4 years ago
valkyries
lazomaniac 4 years ago 2
true.
deefromott 4 years ago
the red shirt is zerg or terran
321soul321 4 years ago
terran, boxer is always tarran
calexise 4 years ago
dude his hella good with controling mutas he knows when to attack and what to attack and when to stop
Ezpked 4 years ago
yellow played smart... mutalisk > goliaths in numbers... plus the fact the map is really big and the expantions are further from the main.. it was hard for boxer to defend his main .. that was awsome :)
akyo777 4 years ago
VioleTAK, how come these matches are split into two separate VODs? I've seen YouTube videos that go for 45 minutes whose quality was sufficient to make out what was happening. Also, if anyone can answer this, what's so funny at 1:10? (I don't speak Korean)
DaXue 4 years ago
boxers using different strats. He used to use dropships marines tanks and vessels. Now hes massing goliaths. I liked his older strat.
TerranFan11111 5 years ago
Massing Goliaths was really the smart thing to do this game though. That way, he coul have some air-killers against the Multas. If he would have used marines, tanks, and medics this game, he would have died much sooner.
Kevim8 4 years ago
infested gg =D
llihnroht 5 years ago
Y didnt boxer go sk...
anti20 5 years ago
oh man, yellow had nothing protecting his base. He really did a good job at not letting Boxer attack.
TMaStAA 5 years ago
Probably kept mutas purely for mobility. Hit and run tactics makes it hard for anyone to keep up.
UnknownEnemy 5 years ago
y didnt yellow just tech to mass gaurdians? Boxer didnt have any air buildings up and because of gaurdians range he coulda raped towers, golaiths, and everything all togethor...
MLee1692 5 years ago
prolly cause guardians are expensive as hell :P
junejhe 5 years ago
Mass muta is the counter to terran mech, as long as you can get enough gas to support it (which yellow did with 3 hidden gas expos), he can continue to abuse muta's mobility.
fobwithacause 5 years ago
Exactly. Boxer apparently thought he could outmass YellOw with gols because YellOw couldn't fast expand. The only thing terran can do after mass gol vs. mut is valkyires which cost so many minerals that zerg can just switch to mass hydra or irradiate which I've never played against but I'm guessing 2 gas can't support it.
odin2358 4 years ago
INSANE! My fave T player vs my fave Z player. GG
KizZBG 5 years ago
LoL i thats like the one thing i like about queens against terran
KsBerzerk 5 years ago
lol gols are explosive dmg, so are mts, so the best counter gainst mutas for terran is still gols mixed with marines and medics.
givemebeerordie 5 years ago
10? I thought that is the max
operationoperation 5 years ago
lolz i wonder how many hotkeys yellow uses...
machaorulesall 5 years ago
The matches of SlayerS_`BoxeR` and YellOw were of course more special and entertaining...they were really 5 awesome matches...not only 3 fast ones...thats why he losed fast against Savior...SlayerS_`BoxeR` wanted to give a 100% vs YellOw...SlayerS_`BoxeR` and YellOw gave an also great final match in the WCG 2002...this Superfight match will be remembered by all SlayerS_`BoxeR` fans as one of the greatest of his career...this is indeed an awesome finale...
Carlodajin 5 years ago
its first time when i saw queen in action. that was just evil.
bondd47 5 years ago
that was really weird seeing boxer pushed back like that... he did well moving the SCV into the base to keep 'em busy, but it's weird he didn't follow up with a marine/firebat/medic rush...
in the few vids I've seen, I've never seen Boxer get pushed back... it was definitely a good game, best of luck to him
aiyeeta 5 years ago
Aww boxer not playing good :/
gg ^_^
Kalfastehpro 5 years ago
Looks weird that terran loses to mutas by doing nothing else than goliaths the whole game. Some more experienced VOD watcher could reveal if this is possibly map balance issue or was mass goliath not the best counter for zerg mass air in these circumstances?
Ougagagoubou 5 years ago
goliaths only do half damage to mutas anyway because of their light armor...i think boxer would've been better off with marines and valks and fewer goliaths.
kingvitamin88 4 years ago 2
ya mobility killed em. these guys are amazing though. been wasting so many hours watching these videos ffs.
deefromott 4 years ago
I still can't believe this is Boxer's last match, but I guess all good things come to an end :)
MickeyToss 5 years ago