If you don't care than why the hell did you bother replying to me to tell me if it is real. No one makes claims and says things unless they WANT someone to believe them. You're obviously very confused and can't remember that you're the one who replied to me. If I look up magic books, all I get are how to do little magic tricks for kids. Where would I find such a spell book?
Also, I'm American and my family is from Jordan but we're not Arabic, numb nuts. Racist comments will get you no where.
And they followed [instead] what the devils had recited during the reign of Solomon. It was not Solomon who disbelieved, but the devils disbelieved, teaching people magic and that which was revealed to the two angels at Babylon, Harut and Marut. But the two angels do not teach anyone unless they say, "We are a trial, so do not disbelieve [by practicing magic]." -Continued in the second reply.
It is not a fact until it is proven. Unless you can provide any statistical evidence where a study on a magic spell was cast and influenced the events in a specific fashion, than it isn't real. You're the one who is saying it is real yet you claim you only know a little about it but even if you did know you would not tell me. How the hell does that convince anyone in anything?
You sound like a child saying "I know its real but I'm not telling you why, so there!"
@DamienZshadow -...[by practicing magic]." And [yet] they learn from them that by which they cause separation between a man and his wife. But they do not harm anyone through it except by permission of Allah . And the people learn what harms them and does not benefit them. But the Children of Israel certainly knew that whoever purchased the magic would not have in the Hereafter any share. And wretched is that for which they sold themselves, if they only knew."
Every other religion under the sky says the same exact thing but I have researched every claim and they are arbitrary vague predictions that can be true no matter what happens. I've read the Quaran as I was raised in a Muslim family and realized they are poems that can apply to almost anyone in any situation if you just interpret it a certain way. Why do you think there are so many hadiths? Just like every other religion, the only reason people believe it is because it isn't specific.
@DamienZshadow Further more brother, Please read about Possession and its exorcism and what causes possession. Read Surah Jinn, and All praise be to Allah, You can find tons of evidence on this. Even our Prophet (saw) was bewitched. You can refer to that from the hadith as well. Frankly speaking, I was so materialistic just a few years back, but now after reading for two years about this - if i say there is no magic, its like im rejecting the existence of Allah.
@gogaphantom Sorry to disappoint but I've also come to the same conclusion about religion as well as magic a long time ago. Neither are true. My family may be Muslim but I certainly am not. Your stories do little to persuade me without reasonable and cohesive evidence. Possession and exorcism were archaic and tragic interpretations of the mentally ill, which we now know the causes for. Why people are deluded enough to still believe this is beyond me.
@DamienZshadow I wont blame you brother. I just thought if you ever believed in Allah, my latter messages would have satisfied you but I'm sorry to see you don't believe in any of the above. "You cannot judge religion without knowing all of it", that's what i learned from the life of others. I was materialistic, But after reading the whole Book with elaboration to every verse, I'm now speechless. I can't find a SINGLE doubt to say that Allah does not exist..I hope u find the same.
@gogaphantom I mean no disrespect when I say I have tried to understand it and every other religion I have come across and found nothing but the same concept translated by different people over long periods of time. When something unexplainable happens, people fear and use religion to fill in the gaps so they may be comfortable but I have learned to be comfortable with not knowing. Instead, someday I will learn for myself instead of applying superstitions to my life. I hope you find peace too.
ya. the answare is its all by it self there is no need for god at all. you are in that box not mee. you are the one who steel belive in that old fairytail books of religion that try to explain everything but nothing at all. you are in the darkness as long as you belive in any kinde of religion. i dont care. your answare to every thing is god did it and god made it. that is stupedity. why cant you thing for a second what the f made the god it self if god must exist?.
i feel sry to say so but, soul don't exist. there is nothing such think as soul. i have no soul. what am i? a machine simply. do your computer have a soul? no. but it has a complex system that it operates, and does a lots of complex tasks. so is human too. we are just a BIO robot. how many soul you have when every single of you entire body cells live they own life? did you know that your cells do every thing by them self?. so what is soul? what is god? i have no soul. and so you too. think.
Only those that have not seen the other sid say there is not GOD. For i have seen both. GOD does live but you must die from here to get there or be half dead to see the other side. Speak from experience not from your feelings.
i think that was disrespectful to an old man, may they have shame. magic is real, if u dont believe in it ure not muslim, as its mentioned about in the Qur'an.
masha allah you are a muslim. me and my family are muslim too, and forget about the old scientist.THERE IS NO GOD! enjoy your life because there is no other life after death! i tell you my brother. what couse created us, is still a mistery. you say la ilaha il allah, there is no other god than allah. but i tell you what that is wrong. because there is no god. if there is a god and god created us like all the belives used to belive, then who is the creator of allah? so just forget and enjoylife.
your a funny fellow, how on earth can u claim to be muslim when u dont believe in Allah or the Last Day, or Resurrection. I'm guessing you were brought up as a muslim then changed, becoming a murtad. shame on you, and please dont call me brother.
it sayes god controll us all and controlls every single thing we do from the day we are born until we die and even it has been writen on us before we are born wether we go to jahanat or azab. so every single person on this world do exactly as it has been writen on you before you were even born. so what ever i do ..its god that tald me to do so oright, so i have done just exactly as god sayed. so why asking me for what i did wile god wished me to do so?
no matter what u do it is in ure destiny, along the way it is u who is making it. this aspect of monotheism is sometimes difficult to understand, thus ure infedility.
u need to study scholarly and theological works such as those of the sufis to understand it in more detail.
that is unfortunately not enough answer. i dont like hadis. its even more confusing than Quran itself. But i am sure that you'll end up with no answer to my questions at all if you we discuss these things together. i have got too many questions and none of the Islamic sheik i ask have been able to answer me rather than saying "allahualem" we dont know why. dont ever ask a question like this...and so on.
as i said this aspect is widely misunderstood and u need to get a good scholar to explain it to you, but i wouldnt just lose faith, thats silly, u never lose faith it shows how weak u are as a person aswell as in iman. this is a common question in all faiths revealed down by Allah, not just islam. i promise u i'll find the answer, but please dont lose faith ure only doing harm to ure own soul.
ok. tell me you have an answer to what couth created allah?. You dont know . Some say no no, Allah is not creatable and its not created, and my answer is if its not created it never existed. so you dont know what created Allah but they must be SOMETHING!! however without couth nothing could have been created. so as you all believe allah is a self-conscious intelligence being. And it has always existed. but that is impossible. thats waht kuran says. but its not like that.
as for you saying that in islam Allah has always existed this is incorrect, I know you don't like ahadith as you do the Qur'an but the most trusted of the ahadith says that the prophet once said 'There was Allah and nothing else before Him and His Throne was over the water, and He then created the Heavens and the Earth and wrote everything in the Book.' I found this only from a quick search, im sure if you are so curious and so determined to get answers Alhamdulillah you could find answrs urself
im not a scholar therefore i cannot answer everything so quickly, i also do not have the time, but if u leave me your email i can help you retain your faith insha' Allah
"as i said this aspect is widely misunderstood and u need to get a good scholar to explain it to you,"
there is nothing misunderstood here.i have read through the Koran together with tafsir of most known scholars like al_qurtubu,al_jalalayn_attabari. i just couldn't get it how people still believe in Koran with so many non sense anti scientific information with no evidence and contradictions in it. you need to loose faith and open your eye to the light to understand that god is delusion.
i didn't said i am a Muslim. and i am not even if i was for couple month a go. i am an atheist!
why not think about? YOU mUST think what created him selv? because he cant exist all by it self. even tho he dont want you to know maybe? or what? IF ALLAH EXIST MAY HE KILL ME THE NEXT TIME I REPLY TO YOUR COMMENT. well if i don't reply to your comment that you will reply to this comment then i must have been killed and you will know Allah killed me. but if i did reply remember there is no Allah!!
So your are saying that to prove allah exists, he must kill you? I do not need to see to believe what i believe, i know and feel waht i believe. Do you kow how to pray? i would like you to pray once, just one time any day, tomorow if u get this message in time. And tell me how the day went.
hey. NOTHING HAPPENED!. i was at work i didn't even thought about this. i come home and checked my e mail and sow you replied. well as you can see i am still a live. is Allah afraid of me to kill me? he cant? why?. i prayed him to kill me!.[because allah is an imaginary] there you have it. i know how to pray. its non sense. to pray to an invisible non existing allah wich sits on the top of the 7th heaven. lol 7 earth and 7 heaven on top of each other? WHERE? very funny. tonz of contradictions!
First of all. My name is khalid mahmoud, iam from palestine and iam 14 years old, i live in greece. please tell me about yourself, are your family muslims? did u convert solo to islam? i would liketo know.
why did you want me to know about your personal info? its ok if you are kid too. I'm 21 from Europe. was brought up as Muslim but i don't believe in nothing now as i know every religion is just a human created. you are a kid. you don't know anything else than what your family thought you. if you like science and learn science well at school, its the best way to find out that religion is wrong. and if religions are wrong that means there is no god!. just think i am not dead yet :D [nice city!!]:p
Please do not say iam a kid it anoys me. I do not just do watever my family and lifestyle does. Becasue i don't, It is very hard to make sense out of all of it, how we might go to heaven and live - for ever. But you do not need t always get answers my freind. I just read the Koran and do wahtever God tells me . All atheists rly on science to help them out, or think there is a logical explanation for everyhing; there isn;t
oh sry if you feel bad. BUT! you do not know that Koran it self is made by Arabic people around 1500 years a go in order to have some rules to live for arabs. but today there is no need to use that very old and wrong rules because it just doesn't go with todays life. you cannot believe the earth is flat like a carpet, we cannot escape the sky because we get burnt by stars?, 7 flat earths, marry your own child. verses from mohammed is just a dream of mohamed. there is no god! i'am still live.
@kel464 There is a logical explanation for everything, it just might not be known yet. Everyday we experience something new we learn about how it truly works. Relying on someone's opinions or predetermined texts that say what the world is without proof or doubt makes no sense. What credibility does the Koran have? Why is it so much more special than the Bible or ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics that each claim something about how the world and afterlife works?
Gamble your life becasue you do not truly know if God and heaven do exist. but what if they do?? just pray at least twice or once and u'll get used it to it :D please man
@kel464 That's horrible advice. Are you telling someone to pretend to believe in something just in case if its true? What if Christianity is true? What if Judaism is true? What if there's a flying spaghetti monster that created the universe? Should I pray to them too JUST IN CASE.
الله يهديه و يتوب
samiou66 1 month ago
This Clip Is not true Just against Islam (all of them are not muslims)
qandeel11 7 months ago
If you don't care than why the hell did you bother replying to me to tell me if it is real. No one makes claims and says things unless they WANT someone to believe them. You're obviously very confused and can't remember that you're the one who replied to me. If I look up magic books, all I get are how to do little magic tricks for kids. Where would I find such a spell book?
Also, I'm American and my family is from Jordan but we're not Arabic, numb nuts. Racist comments will get you no where.
DamienZshadow 2 years ago
@DamienZshadow Brother..Please notice - Surah Baqara (2:102)
And they followed [instead] what the devils had recited during the reign of Solomon. It was not Solomon who disbelieved, but the devils disbelieved, teaching people magic and that which was revealed to the two angels at Babylon, Harut and Marut. But the two angels do not teach anyone unless they say, "We are a trial, so do not disbelieve [by practicing magic]." -Continued in the second reply.
gogaphantom 1 year ago
It is not a fact until it is proven. Unless you can provide any statistical evidence where a study on a magic spell was cast and influenced the events in a specific fashion, than it isn't real. You're the one who is saying it is real yet you claim you only know a little about it but even if you did know you would not tell me. How the hell does that convince anyone in anything?
You sound like a child saying "I know its real but I'm not telling you why, so there!"
DamienZshadow 2 years ago
@DamienZshadow -...[by practicing magic]." And [yet] they learn from them that by which they cause separation between a man and his wife. But they do not harm anyone through it except by permission of Allah . And the people learn what harms them and does not benefit them. But the Children of Israel certainly knew that whoever purchased the magic would not have in the Hereafter any share. And wretched is that for which they sold themselves, if they only knew."
gogaphantom 1 year ago
Every other religion under the sky says the same exact thing but I have researched every claim and they are arbitrary vague predictions that can be true no matter what happens. I've read the Quaran as I was raised in a Muslim family and realized they are poems that can apply to almost anyone in any situation if you just interpret it a certain way. Why do you think there are so many hadiths? Just like every other religion, the only reason people believe it is because it isn't specific.
DamienZshadow 2 years ago
@DamienZshadow Further more brother, Please read about Possession and its exorcism and what causes possession. Read Surah Jinn, and All praise be to Allah, You can find tons of evidence on this. Even our Prophet (saw) was bewitched. You can refer to that from the hadith as well. Frankly speaking, I was so materialistic just a few years back, but now after reading for two years about this - if i say there is no magic, its like im rejecting the existence of Allah.
and Allah knows best.
Salam
gogaphantom 1 year ago
@gogaphantom Sorry to disappoint but I've also come to the same conclusion about religion as well as magic a long time ago. Neither are true. My family may be Muslim but I certainly am not. Your stories do little to persuade me without reasonable and cohesive evidence. Possession and exorcism were archaic and tragic interpretations of the mentally ill, which we now know the causes for. Why people are deluded enough to still believe this is beyond me.
DamienZshadow 1 year ago
@DamienZshadow I wont blame you brother. I just thought if you ever believed in Allah, my latter messages would have satisfied you but I'm sorry to see you don't believe in any of the above. "You cannot judge religion without knowing all of it", that's what i learned from the life of others. I was materialistic, But after reading the whole Book with elaboration to every verse, I'm now speechless. I can't find a SINGLE doubt to say that Allah does not exist..I hope u find the same.
peace
gogaphantom 1 year ago
@gogaphantom I mean no disrespect when I say I have tried to understand it and every other religion I have come across and found nothing but the same concept translated by different people over long periods of time. When something unexplainable happens, people fear and use religion to fill in the gaps so they may be comfortable but I have learned to be comfortable with not knowing. Instead, someday I will learn for myself instead of applying superstitions to my life. I hope you find peace too.
DamienZshadow 1 year ago
ya. the answare is its all by it self there is no need for god at all. you are in that box not mee. you are the one who steel belive in that old fairytail books of religion that try to explain everything but nothing at all. you are in the darkness as long as you belive in any kinde of religion. i dont care. your answare to every thing is god did it and god made it. that is stupedity. why cant you thing for a second what the f made the god it self if god must exist?.
saleall 2 years ago
i feel sry to say so but, soul don't exist. there is nothing such think as soul. i have no soul. what am i? a machine simply. do your computer have a soul? no. but it has a complex system that it operates, and does a lots of complex tasks. so is human too. we are just a BIO robot. how many soul you have when every single of you entire body cells live they own life? did you know that your cells do every thing by them self?. so what is soul? what is god? i have no soul. and so you too. think.
saleall 2 years ago
that old douche deserved it!
Marishtay 2 years ago
none and yet many!
zhadom001 3 years ago
Only those that have not seen the other sid say there is not GOD. For i have seen both. GOD does live but you must die from here to get there or be half dead to see the other side. Speak from experience not from your feelings.
zhadom001 3 years ago
waht reliegon do u beleive in?
kel464 3 years ago
i mean its so shameful that they made this vid, the old man fell to his feet
iostream1 3 years ago
i think that was disrespectful to an old man, may they have shame. magic is real, if u dont believe in it ure not muslim, as its mentioned about in the Qur'an.
iostream1 3 years ago
magic is just an illusion its not real. and jini and shatan have nothing to do with magic. because they dont exist too.
saleall 3 years ago
im guessing then ure not muslim. all i have to say to you is that evolution is an illusion, and charles darwin was a liar.
iostream1 3 years ago
masha allah you are a muslim. me and my family are muslim too, and forget about the old scientist.THERE IS NO GOD! enjoy your life because there is no other life after death! i tell you my brother. what couse created us, is still a mistery. you say la ilaha il allah, there is no other god than allah. but i tell you what that is wrong. because there is no god. if there is a god and god created us like all the belives used to belive, then who is the creator of allah? so just forget and enjoylife.
saleall 3 years ago
your a funny fellow, how on earth can u claim to be muslim when u dont believe in Allah or the Last Day, or Resurrection. I'm guessing you were brought up as a muslim then changed, becoming a murtad. shame on you, and please dont call me brother.
iostream1 3 years ago
look hear is some of the errors in kuran!
it sayes god controll us all and controlls every single thing we do from the day we are born until we die and even it has been writen on us before we are born wether we go to jahanat or azab. so every single person on this world do exactly as it has been writen on you before you were even born. so what ever i do ..its god that tald me to do so oright, so i have done just exactly as god sayed. so why asking me for what i did wile god wished me to do so?
saleall 3 years ago
no matter what u do it is in ure destiny, along the way it is u who is making it. this aspect of monotheism is sometimes difficult to understand, thus ure infedility.
u need to study scholarly and theological works such as those of the sufis to understand it in more detail.
iostream1 3 years ago
that is unfortunately not enough answer. i dont like hadis. its even more confusing than Quran itself. But i am sure that you'll end up with no answer to my questions at all if you we discuss these things together. i have got too many questions and none of the Islamic sheik i ask have been able to answer me rather than saying "allahualem" we dont know why. dont ever ask a question like this...and so on.
saleall 3 years ago
as i said this aspect is widely misunderstood and u need to get a good scholar to explain it to you, but i wouldnt just lose faith, thats silly, u never lose faith it shows how weak u are as a person aswell as in iman. this is a common question in all faiths revealed down by Allah, not just islam. i promise u i'll find the answer, but please dont lose faith ure only doing harm to ure own soul.
iostream1 3 years ago
ok. tell me you have an answer to what couth created allah?. You dont know . Some say no no, Allah is not creatable and its not created, and my answer is if its not created it never existed. so you dont know what created Allah but they must be SOMETHING!! however without couth nothing could have been created. so as you all believe allah is a self-conscious intelligence being. And it has always existed. but that is impossible. thats waht kuran says. but its not like that.
saleall 3 years ago
as for you saying that in islam Allah has always existed this is incorrect, I know you don't like ahadith as you do the Qur'an but the most trusted of the ahadith says that the prophet once said 'There was Allah and nothing else before Him and His Throne was over the water, and He then created the Heavens and the Earth and wrote everything in the Book.' I found this only from a quick search, im sure if you are so curious and so determined to get answers Alhamdulillah you could find answrs urself
iostream1 3 years ago
im not a scholar therefore i cannot answer everything so quickly, i also do not have the time, but if u leave me your email i can help you retain your faith insha' Allah
iostream1 3 years ago
"as i said this aspect is widely misunderstood and u need to get a good scholar to explain it to you,"
there is nothing misunderstood here.i have read through the Koran together with tafsir of most known scholars like al_qurtubu,al_jalalayn_attabari. i just couldn't get it how people still believe in Koran with so many non sense anti scientific information with no evidence and contradictions in it. you need to loose faith and open your eye to the light to understand that god is delusion.
saleall 3 years ago
Summun Bukmun Umyun fahum laa yarjioon
iostream1 3 years ago
allah did not write if and when u do pray. That is your choice to either serve god or not. and apparently ur not and the consequences will be paid .
kel464 3 years ago
the whole point is ( for me ) is that you do not think of who created Allah, coz he wasn;t created,
Lam yalid wa lam yulad. Do not say u r a muslim when you are not. ashhado anna la ilaha ila la, wa ana muhamadun rasoolo allah
kel464 3 years ago
i didn't said i am a Muslim. and i am not even if i was for couple month a go. i am an atheist!
why not think about? YOU mUST think what created him selv? because he cant exist all by it self. even tho he dont want you to know maybe? or what? IF ALLAH EXIST MAY HE KILL ME THE NEXT TIME I REPLY TO YOUR COMMENT. well if i don't reply to your comment that you will reply to this comment then i must have been killed and you will know Allah killed me. but if i did reply remember there is no Allah!!
saleall 3 years ago
So your are saying that to prove allah exists, he must kill you? I do not need to see to believe what i believe, i know and feel waht i believe. Do you kow how to pray? i would like you to pray once, just one time any day, tomorow if u get this message in time. And tell me how the day went.
kel464 3 years ago
hey. NOTHING HAPPENED!. i was at work i didn't even thought about this. i come home and checked my e mail and sow you replied. well as you can see i am still a live. is Allah afraid of me to kill me? he cant? why?. i prayed him to kill me!.[because allah is an imaginary] there you have it. i know how to pray. its non sense. to pray to an invisible non existing allah wich sits on the top of the 7th heaven. lol 7 earth and 7 heaven on top of each other? WHERE? very funny. tonz of contradictions!
saleall 3 years ago
First of all. My name is khalid mahmoud, iam from palestine and iam 14 years old, i live in greece. please tell me about yourself, are your family muslims? did u convert solo to islam? i would liketo know.
kel464 3 years ago
why did you want me to know about your personal info? its ok if you are kid too. I'm 21 from Europe. was brought up as Muslim but i don't believe in nothing now as i know every religion is just a human created. you are a kid. you don't know anything else than what your family thought you. if you like science and learn science well at school, its the best way to find out that religion is wrong. and if religions are wrong that means there is no god!. just think i am not dead yet :D [nice city!!]:p
saleall 3 years ago
Please do not say iam a kid it anoys me. I do not just do watever my family and lifestyle does. Becasue i don't, It is very hard to make sense out of all of it, how we might go to heaven and live - for ever. But you do not need t always get answers my freind. I just read the Koran and do wahtever God tells me . All atheists rly on science to help them out, or think there is a logical explanation for everyhing; there isn;t
Is this - Reliegon Vs Science?
kel464 3 years ago
oh sry if you feel bad. BUT! you do not know that Koran it self is made by Arabic people around 1500 years a go in order to have some rules to live for arabs. but today there is no need to use that very old and wrong rules because it just doesn't go with todays life. you cannot believe the earth is flat like a carpet, we cannot escape the sky because we get burnt by stars?, 7 flat earths, marry your own child. verses from mohammed is just a dream of mohamed. there is no god! i'am still live.
saleall 3 years ago
@kel464 There is a logical explanation for everything, it just might not be known yet. Everyday we experience something new we learn about how it truly works. Relying on someone's opinions or predetermined texts that say what the world is without proof or doubt makes no sense. What credibility does the Koran have? Why is it so much more special than the Bible or ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics that each claim something about how the world and afterlife works?
DamienZshadow 2 years ago
Gamble your life becasue you do not truly know if God and heaven do exist. but what if they do?? just pray at least twice or once and u'll get used it to it :D please man
kel464 3 years ago
check you inbox at youtube because the comment was to long to write here. so i sent you a message.
saleall 3 years ago
@kel464 That's horrible advice. Are you telling someone to pretend to believe in something just in case if its true? What if Christianity is true? What if Judaism is true? What if there's a flying spaghetti monster that created the universe? Should I pray to them too JUST IN CASE.
DamienZshadow 2 years ago
the sorcerer is fake like the presidemt of egypt mobarak . he suck israelies dick
share2go 4 years ago
I hate the computer controlled laughing, it sucks.
LonLeb 4 years ago
Served him right! LoL
Jenfucius 4 years ago
egyptian !!!!!!!!!!!!1
Hfaik 4 years ago
kathiba al monjimoon walaw sadako
justhuman99 5 years ago
its not real? he knows that they have a camera and they put someone to scare him? or is it real candid camera???
Josefiraqi 5 years ago
They trick the fake sorcerer
elv2003 4 years ago
hahaha - good work from this undercover journalist, but i kind of liked the performance of the sorcerer
binsbai 5 years ago