This statement was true when money was tied to tangible assets, i.e. gold/silver. However, with FIAT money the thesis is somewhat compromised. However, it is the correct philosophy behind money which is both a store of value and a medium of exchange.
Not just a hypocrite, she was an immature selfish 2 year old in the body of a full grown woman. She could have never published her works without the maintenance of her husband and parents who where wealthy and allowed her a life of leisure.
Of course many of of Ayn Rands followers are unabashed fascists and fully believe that the strong should rule the weak and that the rich should rule over the poor. Ayn Rand could not even abide her own philosophy when it came to her lover, the psychologist, Nathanial Brandon. When Brandon took a lover other than herself she became enraged and threatened to kill him. Not just a hypocrite, she was an immature selfish 2 year old in the body of a full grown woman.
If Libertarians had their way the world would be ruled by whomever has the biggest weapons and the rule of law would be out the window. It is the logical conclusion to their philosophy. It is a form of "social Darwinism. We had better take them seriously. Know one took Hitler seriously and we all know the cost of that.
Greed and selfishness are a virtue only to the sociopath and a two year old who has not yet learned that the world does not revolve around them. Growing up means learning the we are all interdependent. Not one makes it on this earth without the help of others. Even the criminal who robs a store probably did not not make the gun or the bullets. Corporations are a legal form of criminality.
Same old Libertarian/Republican drivel in the form of ravings from the children's book author Ayn Rand. I was enthralled with her when I was a rebellious, selfish and narrow minded adolescent. Now I am a grown up and have matured to the point that I can take responsibility for my own behavior and do not have to blame the worlds troubles on the poor and disenfranchised or anyone else for that matter.
Hello? Money is produced by government, without government spending it, it doesn't exist. Fiat money is subject to failure, and we all use fiat money. Wars are the principal cause of its devaluation. Fiat money is given value primarily by production. Now go down the rabbit hole and see what will happen.
@pvisserandorra Money is not always produced by goverment - gold , silver , ivory, hides etc have been used for money for over a thousand years none of which are produced by goverment.
@87Wayne Yes but those are not used now, and paper money is. It has a long history of disaster, but when it is created, it has to be accepted by the government for payment of taxes or it is parochial at best. In the instance where new money is created, no one can spend it until they get it. They get it by the government spending it.
This is why it's virtually impossible to make a movie based on an Ayn Rand novel. It's awesome prose for A NOVEL. But in a movie, a line like this sounds ridiculous.
@ariston72 Es la esencia de la excelencia, objeto de inspiración, valiente entre los valientes, es el hombre más honesto de la Mundo.... FRRRRAAAANNNCCIIISSSCCCOOOOOO D'AAN-COOOOOONNNNIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
... If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
Fuck her, feed her, or free her? Thanks for the moral advice, god !!
"our heavenly father" also instructs us on proper bondage etiquette. Doesn't make "him" right !! When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a s
@crutch145 NO PROBLEM...YOU'RE NOT DISAGREEING WITH ME, I DIDN'T INSPIRE THE WORDS....IF YOU ARE A BELIEVER, AS I AM, THEN YOU KNOW THAT THOSE ARE OUR HEAVENLY FATHER'S WORDS...I AGREE WITH YOU, MONEY DOESN'T CORRUPT, BUT AS OUR FATHER SAYS, IT IS THE *LOVE* OF IT THAT CORRUPTS. LOVE GOD AND NOT MONEY....VERY SIMPLE.
PART 2: WE WORK FOR MONEY AS IT IS THE COMMODITY WITH WHICH WE TRADE. IT'S NECESSARY FOR IT'S CONVENIENCE, BUT TRULY, NOT EVEN NECESSARY FOR TRADING...AS BARTERING IS ANOTHER MEANS. BARTERING, HOWEVER, IS JUST NOT SO CONVENIENT. (WINK) NOW I'M NOT A LOOTER, A PARASITE, NOR MOOCHER.... NOR AM I A THIEF. I'VE NEVER LOVED A DOLLAR SO MUCH THAT I WANTED TO STEAL IT....I'VE WORKED FOR WHAT I GOTTEN AND AM ENJOYING THE FRUITS OF MY LABOR.....BUT I LOVE GOD.
WELL, NOT IN MY ESTIMATION....TO *UNDERSTAND* MONEY IS TO KNOW BEST THE MEASURE OF THE FRUITS OF OUR LABORS. WHAT IS EVIL ( AND THE BIBLICAL MEANING JUST MEANS "BAD") IS TO LOVE MONEY.
**The highest tribute to Ayn Rand, is that her critics must distort everything she stood for in order to attack her. She advocated reason, not force; the individual's rights to freedom of action, speech, & association; self-responsibility, NOT self-indulgence; & a live-and-let-live society in which each individual is treated as an END, not the MEANS of others' ends. How many critics would dare honestly state these ideas & say, "..and that's what I reject"?
Thank you truly for making this film. The most sincerity and gratefulness I could possibly conceive of. This story has to be told and must be known. I only hope for sure that all 3 parts come out. I can't wait for the 15th.
i'm sure the scene where francisco blows up all the copper mines in chile because they elected a socialist will go over super well with everyone and teach us all how bad socialism is and not be at all evocative of any real atrocities
"... Blood, whips and guns - or dollars. Take your choice - there is no other - and your time is running out."
Actually Miss Rand's work is much more prophetic than anyone imagined. Withdraw your sanction. Withdraw your support. Then connet with me and make your way to Galt's Gulch in June.
For those of you who are also Watchmen fans, remember when everybody was freaked out that they'd cut parts of Rorschach's speech, because they put a chopped-up portion in the trailer? And then they had the whole version in the movie? Yeah, same basic thing. I mean, I don't see how there's any way they could include D'Anconia's full speech in the movie, but I doubt it will be as chopped down as everyone seems to fear.
Novels and cinema are different artistic endeavors. You can get the essence of the speech without repeating it verbatim, and there are visual devices you can use to flesh out the ideas during the speech. Rand probably knew AS whould be her last work of fiction, and was busily morphing herself into a philosophical writer and so she was (probably) furiously trying to incorporate everything she could into that one last work of fiction. JMHO, no flames needed, love the book, want to like the movie
CORRECTION::: 1 Timothy 6:10, Authorized Version: For THE LOVE of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
"They" say a lot of things...what does God say? Big difference sometimes...
@ShiningOmega - This is my fear, also. I HOPE BEYOND HOPE that this movie does justice to the book. And, IMHO, D'Anconia's speech at Taggert's part should be put into the movie VERBATIM.
The money speech is not gonna happen just because of length. The speech, when spoken, is around 20 minutes. I know this because I've recorded it myself to show my friends who have no interest in reading the whole book.
Fun fact, Rand herself demanded that Roark give his speech word-for-word from her screenplay for the Fountainhead movie, and it wound up being one of the longest speeches in cinema at just six minutes. 20 just isn't happening.
@badgerattoadhall True, and the speech that this excerpt is from is from book 2, so the only way that it could make an appearance in Part 1's release is if they mess with the chronology, or break it up over all three parts.
@ShiningOmega it is also most "loved" speech in the book, more so even than this is john galt speeking. so they just modified it as a sort of trailer.
@ShiningOmega That's a good point. I went back and read it again, and you're right. It is pretty lengthy. I see places where it could be condensed without losing the author's intent. I'll hold my judgement until April 15th when the strike begins. :)
@ExploringReal - Agreed. But, it was only a teaser to get people to come see the movie. I think it served it's purpose. I can't WAIT for the 15th when the strike begins!!!
@CurtHowland As any banker or land lord can tell you, you can have legitimate claims to money which people will refuse to give you voluntarily. We use men with guns to enforce foreclosures and evictions for that reason.
Thank you for making this movie. If we don't get it in San Antonio, I'm going to find a way to watch it all the way in Dallas. The movie looks great, and it seems like it's stayed true to Rand's message.
This statement was true when money was tied to tangible assets, i.e. gold/silver. However, with FIAT money the thesis is somewhat compromised. However, it is the correct philosophy behind money which is both a store of value and a medium of exchange.
ThisAintKyle 4 weeks ago
Chill, dude, fear is the root of all evil.
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Not just a hypocrite, she was an immature selfish 2 year old in the body of a full grown woman. She could have never published her works without the maintenance of her husband and parents who where wealthy and allowed her a life of leisure.
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Of course many of of Ayn Rands followers are unabashed fascists and fully believe that the strong should rule the weak and that the rich should rule over the poor. Ayn Rand could not even abide her own philosophy when it came to her lover, the psychologist, Nathanial Brandon. When Brandon took a lover other than herself she became enraged and threatened to kill him. Not just a hypocrite, she was an immature selfish 2 year old in the body of a full grown woman.
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If Libertarians had their way the world would be ruled by whomever has the biggest weapons and the rule of law would be out the window. It is the logical conclusion to their philosophy. It is a form of "social Darwinism. We had better take them seriously. Know one took Hitler seriously and we all know the cost of that.
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Greed and selfishness are a virtue only to the sociopath and a two year old who has not yet learned that the world does not revolve around them. Growing up means learning the we are all interdependent. Not one makes it on this earth without the help of others. Even the criminal who robs a store probably did not not make the gun or the bullets. Corporations are a legal form of criminality.
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Same old Libertarian/Republican drivel in the form of ravings from the children's book author Ayn Rand. I was enthralled with her when I was a rebellious, selfish and narrow minded adolescent. Now I am a grown up and have matured to the point that I can take responsibility for my own behavior and do not have to blame the worlds troubles on the poor and disenfranchised or anyone else for that matter.
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They put Ayn Rand's thesis into a voicemail?? lol...
redshark618 3 months ago
Hello? Money is produced by government, without government spending it, it doesn't exist. Fiat money is subject to failure, and we all use fiat money. Wars are the principal cause of its devaluation. Fiat money is given value primarily by production. Now go down the rabbit hole and see what will happen.
pvisserandorra 4 months ago
@pvisserandorra Money is not always produced by goverment - gold , silver , ivory, hides etc have been used for money for over a thousand years none of which are produced by goverment.
87Wayne 4 months ago
@87Wayne Yes but those are not used now, and paper money is. It has a long history of disaster, but when it is created, it has to be accepted by the government for payment of taxes or it is parochial at best. In the instance where new money is created, no one can spend it until they get it. They get it by the government spending it.
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This film looks like a total clusterfuc!
scienceisgod1 5 months ago
If I was leaving a message for Frisco I'd be very annoyed waiting for the beep...
TheSURBNation 5 months ago
El mejor personaje de Atlas Shrugged !!!!
Makaa89 6 months ago
I like this guys voice, except it's too mexican
ajayalmighty 6 months ago
D'Anconia, part of the tri-force: D'anconia, Danneskjold, and Galt!
CherokeeInferno1 7 months ago
This is why it's virtually impossible to make a movie based on an Ayn Rand novel. It's awesome prose for A NOVEL. But in a movie, a line like this sounds ridiculous.
satanicmechanic11 8 months ago
Francisco d'Anconia doesn't always drink beer, but when he does, he drinks Dos Equis.
ariston72 8 months ago 4
@ariston72 Es la esencia de la excelencia, objeto de inspiración, valiente entre los valientes, es el hombre más honesto de la Mundo.... FRRRRAAAANNNCCIIISSSCCCOOOOOO D'AAN-COOOOOONNNNIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
lefredvoncarstein 8 months ago
Frisco!!!
mariakzv 9 months ago
@mariakzv
Hey Slug!
xBattleHeartx 8 months ago 2
True Believers all the way
SpazzzDog 9 months ago
Francisco, will you marry me? :-)
parrotlegal 10 months ago 2
Cool!
Hanson914 10 months ago
Cool!
Solverwiz 10 months ago
Hi, Frisco!
jsupler 10 months ago
@jsupler hi, slug.
atsubill2 10 months ago
... If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
Fuck her, feed her, or free her? Thanks for the moral advice, god !!
whitetrshsoldier 10 months ago
"our heavenly father" also instructs us on proper bondage etiquette. Doesn't make "him" right !! When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a s
whitetrshsoldier 10 months ago
@crutch145 NO PROBLEM...YOU'RE NOT DISAGREEING WITH ME, I DIDN'T INSPIRE THE WORDS....IF YOU ARE A BELIEVER, AS I AM, THEN YOU KNOW THAT THOSE ARE OUR HEAVENLY FATHER'S WORDS...I AGREE WITH YOU, MONEY DOESN'T CORRUPT, BUT AS OUR FATHER SAYS, IT IS THE *LOVE* OF IT THAT CORRUPTS. LOVE GOD AND NOT MONEY....VERY SIMPLE.
SREGAN7 11 months ago
PART 2: WE WORK FOR MONEY AS IT IS THE COMMODITY WITH WHICH WE TRADE. IT'S NECESSARY FOR IT'S CONVENIENCE, BUT TRULY, NOT EVEN NECESSARY FOR TRADING...AS BARTERING IS ANOTHER MEANS. BARTERING, HOWEVER, IS JUST NOT SO CONVENIENT. (WINK) NOW I'M NOT A LOOTER, A PARASITE, NOR MOOCHER.... NOR AM I A THIEF. I'VE NEVER LOVED A DOLLAR SO MUCH THAT I WANTED TO STEAL IT....I'VE WORKED FOR WHAT I GOTTEN AND AM ENJOYING THE FRUITS OF MY LABOR.....BUT I LOVE GOD.
SREGAN7 11 months ago
@SREGAN7
To love money is to know and love the fact that money making is the material shape of the best within us. Is that what you consider evil?
SomeUsefulIdiot 10 months ago
@SomeUsefulIdiot
WELL, NOT IN MY ESTIMATION....TO *UNDERSTAND* MONEY IS TO KNOW BEST THE MEASURE OF THE FRUITS OF OUR LABORS. WHAT IS EVIL ( AND THE BIBLICAL MEANING JUST MEANS "BAD") IS TO LOVE MONEY.
SREGAN7 10 months ago
@crutch145 I KEEP GETTING AN ERROR WHEN I TRY TO REPLY
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**The highest tribute to Ayn Rand, is that her critics must distort everything she stood for in order to attack her. She advocated reason, not force; the individual's rights to freedom of action, speech, & association; self-responsibility, NOT self-indulgence; & a live-and-let-live society in which each individual is treated as an END, not the MEANS of others' ends. How many critics would dare honestly state these ideas & say, "..and that's what I reject"?
notbestfriends 11 months ago
MONEY IS "NOT" THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.....GOD NEVER INSPIRED THAT TO BE WRITTEN.....IT IS THE "LOVE" OF MONEY THAT IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.
NOW, THE REST OF D'ANCONIA'S VOICE MAIL MAKES SENSE.
SREGAN7 11 months ago
Fantastic - Counting down the days!
mmdmba 11 months ago
Thank you truly for making this film. The most sincerity and gratefulness I could possibly conceive of. This story has to be told and must be known. I only hope for sure that all 3 parts come out. I can't wait for the 15th.
edwardstumman 11 months ago
i'm sure the scene where francisco blows up all the copper mines in chile because they elected a socialist will go over super well with everyone and teach us all how bad socialism is and not be at all evocative of any real atrocities
dumbn00b 11 months ago
"... Blood, whips and guns - or dollars. Take your choice - there is no other - and your time is running out."
Actually Miss Rand's work is much more prophetic than anyone imagined. Withdraw your sanction. Withdraw your support. Then connet with me and make your way to Galt's Gulch in June.
So I guess 'your time really IS running out'.
G $ G
GaltsGulchPortal 11 months ago 2
I think I'll wait for it to come out on DVD, If I even watch it at all.
flilguy 11 months ago
For those of you who are also Watchmen fans, remember when everybody was freaked out that they'd cut parts of Rorschach's speech, because they put a chopped-up portion in the trailer? And then they had the whole version in the movie? Yeah, same basic thing. I mean, I don't see how there's any way they could include D'Anconia's full speech in the movie, but I doubt it will be as chopped down as everyone seems to fear.
eskilla 11 months ago 2
Novels and cinema are different artistic endeavors. You can get the essence of the speech without repeating it verbatim, and there are visual devices you can use to flesh out the ideas during the speech. Rand probably knew AS whould be her last work of fiction, and was busily morphing herself into a philosophical writer and so she was (probably) furiously trying to incorporate everything she could into that one last work of fiction. JMHO, no flames needed, love the book, want to like the movie
Ikonoklasty 11 months ago
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CORRECTION::: 1 Timothy 6:10, Authorized Version: For THE LOVE of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
"They" say a lot of things...what does God say? Big difference sometimes...
antipas4HIM 11 months ago
wait they changed it to a voicemail instead of the speech in the party?
bassplayerts 11 months ago
I have that entire speech typed out in word.
xvise66 11 months ago
Love the cheap shot at Keith Olbermann at the end! (lol)
RushLimborg 11 months ago
He needs anger management
mrthundercrack 11 months ago
@mrthundercrack He needs looters to quit stealing from his company and running it into the ground for their own gains.
calronmoonflower 11 months ago
My god. That is awful. Not the speech, or the book by any means........but are they seriously expecting people to use this as a voicemail?
amse 11 months ago
@amse Of course not. It's just a fun method of advertising. I'd be shocked if it makes in into the movie, even.
ShiningOmega 11 months ago
@ShiningOmega - This is my fear, also. I HOPE BEYOND HOPE that this movie does justice to the book. And, IMHO, D'Anconia's speech at Taggert's part should be put into the movie VERBATIM.
andogigi5 11 months ago
@andogigi5 I hope so as well.
The money speech is not gonna happen just because of length. The speech, when spoken, is around 20 minutes. I know this because I've recorded it myself to show my friends who have no interest in reading the whole book.
Fun fact, Rand herself demanded that Roark give his speech word-for-word from her screenplay for the Fountainhead movie, and it wound up being one of the longest speeches in cinema at just six minutes. 20 just isn't happening.
ShiningOmega 11 months ago
@ShiningOmega its a three part movie though
badgerattoadhall 11 months ago
@badgerattoadhall True, and the speech that this excerpt is from is from book 2, so the only way that it could make an appearance in Part 1's release is if they mess with the chronology, or break it up over all three parts.
ShiningOmega 11 months ago
@ShiningOmega it is also most "loved" speech in the book, more so even than this is john galt speeking. so they just modified it as a sort of trailer.
badgerattoadhall 11 months ago
@ShiningOmega That's a good point. I went back and read it again, and you're right. It is pretty lengthy. I see places where it could be condensed without losing the author's intent. I'll hold my judgement until April 15th when the strike begins. :)
andogigi5 11 months ago
@amse Only after they go on strike. :)
andogigi5 11 months ago
On page 77 of the book, part 1. Can't wait for this movie though i wish it was in my area. I actually have some drawing ideas from it.
AspirationsLive 11 months ago
I dont think they summarized his speech very well (when you compare it to the book), but I'm excited for the movie :)
ExploringReal 11 months ago
@ExploringReal - Agreed. But, it was only a teaser to get people to come see the movie. I think it served it's purpose. I can't WAIT for the 15th when the strike begins!!!
andogigi5 11 months ago
Today, money is the tool of politics. We all work harder to support that use.
mustang607 11 months ago
Nice :)
TalkerOne 11 months ago
There are only two ways to acquire something you want. Voluntarily, or involuntarily.
CurtHowland 11 months ago 22
@CurtHowland As any banker or land lord can tell you, you can have legitimate claims to money which people will refuse to give you voluntarily. We use men with guns to enforce foreclosures and evictions for that reason.
MrAdvancedAtheist 3 weeks ago
@MrAdvancedAtheist Yes, but that's hardly something that requires government.
Enforcement of contracts is a normal function.
I would rather see ostracism than violence, just make sure your contracts include the "guys with guns" parts and we're cool.
CurtHowland 3 weeks ago
(g) Its awesome.
tsummerlee 11 months ago
can't wait :D
HBHSdrumlineDude 11 months ago 2
Thank you for making this movie. If we don't get it in San Antonio, I'm going to find a way to watch it all the way in Dallas. The movie looks great, and it seems like it's stayed true to Rand's message.
You guys and gals rock!
immikeurnot 11 months ago 38
@immikeurnot Right now the closest we can get is Sugar Land outside of Houston. Also hoping that it comes to San Antonio!
chaosinwriting 11 months ago
@chaosinwriting They just announced a San Antonio theater today! It's off I10 and 410 next to Dave and Buster's!!!
I'm there!
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chaosinwriting 10 months ago
@immikeurnot I just bought tickets for the opening night at Bijou! I'm thrilled that it's just a week away. Enjoy!
chaosinwriting 10 months ago
I'm convinced that that, too often misquoted Bible verse is better translated, "The conflation of money to wealth is the root of a great many evil."
kingcherub 11 months ago
This is going to be soooooooooooooo good. I hope it plays in Oklahoma!
akpiano27 11 months ago