I had to beg, borrow and steal to find a copy of this opera in its completion. I finally have, and I think I wept harder than I have in my life seeing Madame Troyanos alive and healthy and vibrant and watching her opening this trio with her loaded "Marie Theres'. Thank you for putting this up.
It's amazing how camera-perfect Kiri's acting is in this. She is completely focussed - there isn't one moment where she loses that. I would love to have been there to see wheather any of it read in the house. But for the camera it was perfect.
so they all in love with each other? No wonder they are talking ( singing ) at the same time... Jesus Lord... Lesbians can be difficult even when they are done in opera.
The funny part is, they wont sing about TUNA, or any type of fish ( if you know what I am trying to say ), neither they are saying things like... let me lick it or let me see your cherry.
Any way, besides the horrible taste in clothing(lesbians lol), they are singing beautifully, but I rather see Rosie O'Donnell in the middle
@andrea585ny where is your sense of humor? I love opera us much as you do if not even more... I eat music, I dream music, I breath music... but that wont make me someone better than every one that think life is a miserable place where I don't have the right and pleasure to laugh.
@andrea585ny Talking about jokes.... let me go to the Renata Tebaldi's videos and tell their fans Maria Callas was called the Divine for a reason.... she was the best lol
@andrea585ny And for the record I ADORE, I LOVE, I RESPECT not just the woman, but the artist MADAME KANAWA is. I met her in Naples Florida... she heard me singing at Naples Royal Conservatory, she is friend of my former teacher.... she is adorable, a real LADY, well educated that talks softly, and she makes sure her point gets crossed when she talks. Very perfectionist, she has eyes that can look inside your soul, but you know, there are some qualities of ppl have that are beyond our talent.
Saw this in a 1990s Met re-broadcast. Sublime does not express it. Phoned PBS to try to get a DVD copy. They said it was not available to he public. Thank you SO MUCH for posting this....
@daphneoneal The dvd is now available - in the 'Levine 40' set of 12 (or 10?) operas issued to celebrate James Levine's 40th anniversary at the Met. You can order the set from Amazon.
Ok... this is the best version I have seen. You can argue about Schwarzkopf.. technically but this is FUN.. I like it! That poor girl at 1.12 what a pout hehe.. I got so many people 'into' opera via this aria. Gorgeous, absolutely sublime.. soddit I'm crying AGAIN!
@dapontefan And yes, I AM aware that a number of Saturday-afternoon Met radio broadcasts were telecast on TV, too. A classic case in point is the DON CARLOS of March 26, 1983, one week after the Saturday matinee broadcast of DER ROSENKAVALIER in 1982-83, as is the following season's simulcast of LA FORZA DEL DESTINO on March 24, 1984. As a side note: when the Met finally released a TANNHAUSER telecast from 1982-83, it was cobbled together from 2 performances because of Cassilly's vocal woes
I do not understand fans of Pavarotti: the voice not the best, ugly scene presence, bad actor... I get the full record of this from DD UNIVERS.. In my opinion is a good one thanks Kiri.. and Troyanos.. The scene is awull, very dark mainly in the secon act...Thes record is SOLTI-KIRI-HOWELS... the scene is . beautifull..UNIQUE!
@dapontefan I suspect that, in part, because Luciano Pavarotti sang POORLY in the Italian Singer's little scena in Act I. Other than that, I can't understand why not; the rest of the performance is, indeed, wonderful, magical, and marvelous.
I hate to disagree with an expert, but I recently listened again to my audio recording of the Met's Saturday broadcast. While Pavarotti may not have been quite at the top of his form, he certainly did not sing it poorly. I'd look for some other explanation.
@dapontefan If you have an audio recording of a Saturday matinee with Pavarotti as the Italian Singer, it must be 3/27/76, because Pavarotti DID do that Italian Singer. This telecast was on Thursday, 10/7/82, and Pavarotti DID sing the Italian Singer, but he may have been in poor voice that fall, because he cancelled three of his appearances (including Opening Night on 9/20/82) - or it may have also been nerves over singing Idomeneo for the first time.
@jmccracken1963 My recording is of the 10/7/82 Met afternoon radio broadcast, recorded off the air. I believe it's the same performance as the YouTube video. I still think Pavarotti sounds quite good.
@dapontefan That IS the performance from which the above excerpt is taken, and it WAS televised, but it was an EVENING performance, as were MOST (though not all) of the Met telecasts in that era. The Met's regular Saturday afternoon radio broadcasts for 1982-1983 began on December 4 with LUCIA DI LAMMERMOOR, and DER ROSENKAVALIER was broadcast on March 19, with Giuliano Ciannella as the Italian Singer (he did all the spring performances, including the tour)
Te Kanawa is giving a performance, and telling a story, the other two are doing a recital. they all sound flawless, but looking at Kiri is watching a completely different show
correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Kiri Te Kanawa sounded as good in Royal Opera House Covent Garden in 1985 this is earlier to bad she could not of done this at this age with Anne Howells , Barbara Bonney.
You can really feel the Marschallin's pain in Kiri's voice. Those eyes...and the dropped fan at the end. Yes, is this on DVD? I would dearly like to own it.
I had the immense pleasure of seeing these three ladies in this very production at the MET in a matinee performance the Spring of 1983. For me it was a truly life altering event that I will always treasure...Troyanos received a standing ovation at the end of the FIRST act, and it only got better as the performance went on....everyone who left the MET after the performance was walking on cloud nine....it was so fine you didn't want it to end.
Interesting comparing te Kanawa to Schwarzkopf in this performance but I will have to favour the former although granted her interpretation is not as intense or insightful but her voice and stage presence is much more attractive. Schwarzkopf is quite mannered in her approach but both Dames are wonderful in this role. Other greats include Lott, Fleming, Della Casa, Isokoski(sounds very much like Schwarzkopf, Soderstrom, Janowitz- if ONLY Margaret Price had sung this role! Pity.
Kiri looks and sounds gorgeous, but her Marschallin is far too sweet. There should be more of a twinkle in the woman's eye when she is patronising Sophie!
we never get these kinds of amazing performances and casts these days... but really, Levine needs to learn tempi. I'm so sick of him doing stuff way too slow, or doing them almost double tempo in Mozart!
Holy smokes, this tempo is slow! I absolutely love Troyanos in everything :). And Kiri deserves kudos for singing this so damn slow. Glad I stumbled upon this, thanks for posting it.
The singing is magnificent; to think that singing such as this once took place on the Met stage! That being said, maestro Levine does not and has never understood how to conduct the music of Richard Strauss. Forward motion is the name of the game in this music. It is not a matter of tempo, because there are many who conducted this as slowly or slower but still maintained the momentum. See Karajan, Bohm, Knappertsbusch, et. al.
Has Tatiana Troyanos passed away? Gracious Lord, I hope not. I liked her a lot. She was also with Dame Kiri in Bernstein's West Side Story and she was fantastic.
Troyanos passed away in the early 90s! The following is from wikipedia:
"Troyanos died from liver cancer, an affliction she successfully concealed from the vast majority of her colleagues, at the age of 54 in New York City. In an eerie coincidence, Troyanos was one of three female opera stars of international stature who succumbed to cancer in 1993 in or near her 54th year. The other singers were sopranos Lucia Popp and Arleen Augér.
She passed away right after doing Capriccio in SF, also with Te Kanawa. Apparently the two of them were friends--but I don't think Dame Kiri knew that Tatiana was dying. I have the performance on DVD, and it is REALLY good!
Thank you for your information. When the two recorded Westside Story with Leonard Bernstein where Troyanos sang A Boy Like That, I was completely taken. That was my first introduction to her and I got to like her a lot in the real opera.
Hermoso !. Gracias por el video !
veeerooniicaaa 4 months ago
I had to beg, borrow and steal to find a copy of this opera in its completion. I finally have, and I think I wept harder than I have in my life seeing Madame Troyanos alive and healthy and vibrant and watching her opening this trio with her loaded "Marie Theres'. Thank you for putting this up.
voceangelo 6 months ago
It's amazing how camera-perfect Kiri's acting is in this. She is completely focussed - there isn't one moment where she loses that. I would love to have been there to see wheather any of it read in the house. But for the camera it was perfect.
Lindow 9 months ago
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rooyan1 10 months ago
They're not lesbians. Octavian is a boy.
Dymension 11 months ago
so they all in love with each other? No wonder they are talking ( singing ) at the same time... Jesus Lord... Lesbians can be difficult even when they are done in opera.
The funny part is, they wont sing about TUNA, or any type of fish ( if you know what I am trying to say ), neither they are saying things like... let me lick it or let me see your cherry.
Any way, besides the horrible taste in clothing(lesbians lol), they are singing beautifully, but I rather see Rosie O'Donnell in the middle
RonaldBarone 1 year ago
@RonaldBarone That's the most ridiculously brilliant comment I've read in ages
sairamnagarajan 1 year ago
@RonaldBarone CONGRATULATIONS!!! You've just won the MEATHEAD OF THE YEAR AWARD
...and I thought Neanderthals were extinct
andrea585ny 8 months ago
@andrea585ny where is your sense of humor? I love opera us much as you do if not even more... I eat music, I dream music, I breath music... but that wont make me someone better than every one that think life is a miserable place where I don't have the right and pleasure to laugh.
RonaldBarone 8 months ago
@RonaldBarone Sorry Ron, I realize it was a joke but I'm a lesbian and sometimes those kind of
comments rub me the wrong way. Had a few slurs hurled @ me on Thursday and it kinda put
me in a mood. I don't think the world is a miserable place rather a wonderous place where we
have the moving and beautiful talent seen in this video. Why do you get to express humor in
your way(vulgarity) and it's ok but if I express humor in my way(sarcasm) it's not ok? Just breakin
balls my friend :) Cheers!
andrea585ny 8 months ago
@andrea585ny I can make fun of lesbians.... I AM GAY lol
and as a gay man I do what gay men know how to do the best
JOKES LOL
RonaldBarone 8 months ago
@RonaldBarone Kinda figured you were gay. You f-ng fags take the
hardest shots at us lesbians LOL
andrea585ny 8 months ago
@andrea585ny Talking about jokes.... let me go to the Renata Tebaldi's videos and tell their fans Maria Callas was called the Divine for a reason.... she was the best lol
It drive them crazy hahahahahahahahahahha
RonaldBarone 8 months ago
@RonaldBarone Don't do it dude! You'll end up face down dead in a ditch!
andrea585ny 8 months ago
@andrea585ny And for the record I ADORE, I LOVE, I RESPECT not just the woman, but the artist MADAME KANAWA is. I met her in Naples Florida... she heard me singing at Naples Royal Conservatory, she is friend of my former teacher.... she is adorable, a real LADY, well educated that talks softly, and she makes sure her point gets crossed when she talks. Very perfectionist, she has eyes that can look inside your soul, but you know, there are some qualities of ppl have that are beyond our talent.
RonaldBarone 8 months ago
@RonaldBarone Very cool that you met Dame Kiri. She seems like a lovely woman
and is of course a phenominal singer. I'm a Troyanos lover - her soulfulness and
beautiful voice move me beyond words. I agree completely, some performers have
a special quality that goes beyond mere talent. Kindest regards, Andrea
andrea585ny 8 months ago
She is the greatest. That role suits her so well.
SandrineSoprano 1 year ago
Saw this in a 1990s Met re-broadcast. Sublime does not express it. Phoned PBS to try to get a DVD copy. They said it was not available to he public. Thank you SO MUCH for posting this....
daphneoneal 1 year ago
@daphneoneal The dvd is now available - in the 'Levine 40' set of 12 (or 10?) operas issued to celebrate James Levine's 40th anniversary at the Met. You can order the set from Amazon.
390204 10 months ago
Absolutly marviellous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gustavoanmosura 1 year ago
Wow!!! y más interminables wow!!!
elzebra1973 1 year ago
Ok... this is the best version I have seen. You can argue about Schwarzkopf.. technically but this is FUN.. I like it! That poor girl at 1.12 what a pout hehe.. I got so many people 'into' opera via this aria. Gorgeous, absolutely sublime.. soddit I'm crying AGAIN!
lastofthedogmen 1 year ago
I love all three of these ladies!!!
RIP- Tatianna may light perpetual shine upon you!
Operaman41 1 year ago
I saw this performance at the Met. It was a life changing experience.
2Dawgz 1 year ago
@dapontefan And yes, I AM aware that a number of Saturday-afternoon Met radio broadcasts were telecast on TV, too. A classic case in point is the DON CARLOS of March 26, 1983, one week after the Saturday matinee broadcast of DER ROSENKAVALIER in 1982-83, as is the following season's simulcast of LA FORZA DEL DESTINO on March 24, 1984. As a side note: when the Met finally released a TANNHAUSER telecast from 1982-83, it was cobbled together from 2 performances because of Cassilly's vocal woes
jmccracken1963 1 year ago
So exquisitely beautiful that it is almost physically painful.
Is there another way to describe this music? sanjosemike
sanjosemike 1 year ago
What a tease...not to be able to hear it!!!!
clairemichelstetter 1 year ago
brings tears to the eyes, this does! brilliant!
brigid88 1 year ago
I do not understand fans of Pavarotti: the voice not the best, ugly scene presence, bad actor... I get the full record of this from DD UNIVERS.. In my opinion is a good one thanks Kiri.. and Troyanos.. The scene is awull, very dark mainly in the secon act...Thes record is SOLTI-KIRI-HOWELS... the scene is . beautifull..UNIQUE!
franco96544 1 year ago
@franco96544 he's a miserable bugger too; he really hates it when the audience join in..
greytart 1 year ago
A pity, only, that the volume level is so low. - John Austin, Australia
jrakg 2 years ago 2
The has refused to make this performance of the opera commercially available. Does anyone know why?
dapontefan 2 years ago
@dapontefan I suspect that, in part, because Luciano Pavarotti sang POORLY in the Italian Singer's little scena in Act I. Other than that, I can't understand why not; the rest of the performance is, indeed, wonderful, magical, and marvelous.
jmccracken1963 1 year ago
I hate to disagree with an expert, but I recently listened again to my audio recording of the Met's Saturday broadcast. While Pavarotti may not have been quite at the top of his form, he certainly did not sing it poorly. I'd look for some other explanation.
dapontefan 1 year ago
@dapontefan If you have an audio recording of a Saturday matinee with Pavarotti as the Italian Singer, it must be 3/27/76, because Pavarotti DID do that Italian Singer. This telecast was on Thursday, 10/7/82, and Pavarotti DID sing the Italian Singer, but he may have been in poor voice that fall, because he cancelled three of his appearances (including Opening Night on 9/20/82) - or it may have also been nerves over singing Idomeneo for the first time.
jmccracken1963 1 year ago
@jmccracken1963 My recording is of the 10/7/82 Met afternoon radio broadcast, recorded off the air. I believe it's the same performance as the YouTube video. I still think Pavarotti sounds quite good.
dapontefan 1 year ago
@dapontefan That IS the performance from which the above excerpt is taken, and it WAS televised, but it was an EVENING performance, as were MOST (though not all) of the Met telecasts in that era. The Met's regular Saturday afternoon radio broadcasts for 1982-1983 began on December 4 with LUCIA DI LAMMERMOOR, and DER ROSENKAVALIER was broadcast on March 19, with Giuliano Ciannella as the Italian Singer (he did all the spring performances, including the tour)
jmccracken1963 1 year ago
its act 3 honey
miu5423 2 years ago
I love Kiri and Tatiana, this is the opera wherein I first fell in love with Kiri
ImpossiblyLost 2 years ago 2
One of the most beautiful opera snipetts ever. Kiri rules! I'm totally in love with her.
gumpgarbonzo 2 years ago 11
@gumpgarbonzo Scwarzkopf is better.
jphilipps89 9 months ago
She has sung with an golden feminine fantastic sound and her voicetimbre and acting are this ROKKOKO which is needet for this role - brava!
Never to forget!
lamusicahera 2 years ago 2
My pearly gates music. Incredible!
ceb2633 2 years ago 5
how lucky the audience was that night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
uniqueattack 2 years ago 3
Indeed!!!
matticus201 2 years ago
Simply sublime!!
naturalactive1 2 years ago 2
kiri was a great soprano in het time...
moniquetb 3 years ago 2
Probably the best trio combination I've ever seen / heard.
DivaDeb1234 3 years ago
I love Judith Blegen...!
DivaDeb1234 3 years ago
Just about the video quality, I have my computer up to max volume, and I can hardly hear it.
CrystalFlames 3 years ago 12
dude, get better speakers
grunfeld2312 3 years ago
Ya, it's the video, not the speakers.
olympicfreak678 3 years ago
Why rush the trio?
The music and this performance is so sublime that it envelopes us into a mood of tears for Marschallin's loss.
And, as some of you posted, you can see it clearly in Kiri's face.
But the trio....may it live forever in all our minds and hearts.
sanjosemike
sanjosemike 3 years ago
Te Kanawa is giving a performance, and telling a story, the other two are doing a recital. they all sound flawless, but looking at Kiri is watching a completely different show
theblueangel28 3 years ago
she looks and sounds gorgeous
uniqueattack 2 years ago 3
well at least Barbara Bonney I think this Octavian is much better also like this production more, but Sophie is forget able.
at least not as good as Barbara Bonney
OperaBaritoneJoe 3 years ago
correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Kiri Te Kanawa sounded as good in Royal Opera House Covent Garden in 1985 this is earlier to bad she could not of done this at this age with Anne Howells , Barbara Bonney.
OperaBaritoneJoe 3 years ago
Not RCA prez!! Classical recording manager for EMI.
lagnaha 3 years ago
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goldenthroat86 3 years ago 3
I totally agree! I'm not a prosessional but I've listened to opera all my life. Schwarzkopf has never made me feel anything!
orfeo2003 3 years ago
Excellent but Schwarzkopf for me.
lagnaha 3 years ago
You can really feel the Marschallin's pain in Kiri's voice. Those eyes...and the dropped fan at the end. Yes, is this on DVD? I would dearly like to own it.
musicyh 3 years ago 2
Does anyone know if this performance is available on DVD?
gingerbadger 3 years ago
I had the immense pleasure of seeing these three ladies in this very production at the MET in a matinee performance the Spring of 1983. For me it was a truly life altering event that I will always treasure...Troyanos received a standing ovation at the end of the FIRST act, and it only got better as the performance went on....everyone who left the MET after the performance was walking on cloud nine....it was so fine you didn't want it to end.
nessie96 3 years ago 3
He FLIES through Liebestod from Tristan! I am usually at odds with this tempi on most arias.
htshoward 3 years ago
Interesting comparing te Kanawa to Schwarzkopf in this performance but I will have to favour the former although granted her interpretation is not as intense or insightful but her voice and stage presence is much more attractive. Schwarzkopf is quite mannered in her approach but both Dames are wonderful in this role. Other greats include Lott, Fleming, Della Casa, Isokoski(sounds very much like Schwarzkopf, Soderstrom, Janowitz- if ONLY Margaret Price had sung this role! Pity.
domi2020 3 years ago
THANK YOU; THANK YOU FOR POSTING:
It would be great if you could add the ensuing bit with Mmes. Blegen and Troyanos.
If you do add, please let me know.
Danke!
wisjoh 3 years ago
Kiri looks and sounds gorgeous, but her Marschallin is far too sweet. There should be more of a twinkle in the woman's eye when she is patronising Sophie!
yesys 3 years ago
we never get these kinds of amazing performances and casts these days... but really, Levine needs to learn tempi. I'm so sick of him doing stuff way too slow, or doing them almost double tempo in Mozart!
lucyliesinashes 3 years ago
Holy smokes, this tempo is slow! I absolutely love Troyanos in everything :). And Kiri deserves kudos for singing this so damn slow. Glad I stumbled upon this, thanks for posting it.
VivaLucia 3 years ago
It is so hard to NOT cry through this scene. Thank you so much for posting this.
MissSheilaBeila 3 years ago
Kiri is a woman of regal beauty...
Lohengrin 3 years ago
The singing is magnificent; to think that singing such as this once took place on the Met stage! That being said, maestro Levine does not and has never understood how to conduct the music of Richard Strauss. Forward motion is the name of the game in this music. It is not a matter of tempo, because there are many who conducted this as slowly or slower but still maintained the momentum. See Karajan, Bohm, Knappertsbusch, et. al.
billyguns2 4 years ago
Ravishing singing and playing. May Tatiana rest in peace. Bravo Maestro Levine.
steinway1901 4 years ago
Has Tatiana Troyanos passed away? Gracious Lord, I hope not. I liked her a lot. She was also with Dame Kiri in Bernstein's West Side Story and she was fantastic.
elizabethvonslussen 3 years ago
Troyanos passed away in the early 90s! The following is from wikipedia:
"Troyanos died from liver cancer, an affliction she successfully concealed from the vast majority of her colleagues, at the age of 54 in New York City. In an eerie coincidence, Troyanos was one of three female opera stars of international stature who succumbed to cancer in 1993 in or near her 54th year. The other singers were sopranos Lucia Popp and Arleen Augér.
148jules 3 years ago
Thank you for the information. Missing it gave me the impression that she had retired early. God bless her.
elizabethvonslussen 3 years ago
She passed away right after doing Capriccio in SF, also with Te Kanawa. Apparently the two of them were friends--but I don't think Dame Kiri knew that Tatiana was dying. I have the performance on DVD, and it is REALLY good!
LizN90 3 years ago
Thank you for your information. When the two recorded Westside Story with Leonard Bernstein where Troyanos sang A Boy Like That, I was completely taken. That was my first introduction to her and I got to like her a lot in the real opera.
elizabethvonslussen 3 years ago
Three wonderful singers, all at the peak of their powers - thanks so much for posting this!
mattskib 4 years ago
sheer divinity!!! BEAUTIFUL TRIO INDEED! All 3 ladies at their peak in their singing careers!! It's amazing!!!
domi2020 4 years ago 3
Te Kanawa, Troyanos & Blegen. What a combination! This is fabulous! Thank you!
LizN90 4 years ago
No way!!, this is not possible... Te Kanawa & Troyanos... Am I sleeping?, dreaming?!!
Ohh, dear Lover, I guess I am... THANKS!! It's so beautiful...
LaBelleHelene 4 years ago 9
Happiness is to share.......with love to music.
dameKIRIlover
damekirilover 4 years ago 2
@damekirilover :-)))))
sirenadellopera 4 months ago
They also duetted on West Side Story ... although not the best casting for that!
148jules 3 years ago
@LaBelleHelene :-)))))))))
sirenadellopera 4 months ago