continuation from last post...9th of Av is the most solemn among jews historically.So on that day a blood red moon means a lot.It was the same day of the destruction of both previous temples.Jews were kicked out of England and Spain in 14th and 15th century same day.Bad report from spies of Jericho and worshipping the idol onSainai were the same day.God deals with patterns and He does not change He is giving signs.Repent and be saved from the coming destruction or be killed for your salvation
I believe Jesus will rapture the chuch this year-2011!!! All the signs and prophesy point to it.It will be Rosh Hashanah-2011 Sep 27/28/29.The day that no man knows the day nor the hour.The Language of God is always in riddles because you will find it when you earnestly look for it even as He said in His Word-you will find me when u seek me with all your heart.There's a blood red moon on the 9th of Av in 2018.That should be when the antichrist starts killing jews and then armageddon.9th of Av...
It will be a "Ingathering" NO rapture. It is the ingathering of the lost tribes that has been scatered all over the world (most don't even know they are part of the tribes of Israel) The word "Israel" for most part refers to the tribes not to the physical land. 1. Causing all the tribes to return to the Torah (christians was told "law" been deceived by theologians)., 2. Jerusalem will be divided., 3. All the tribes then will INGATHER in the physical Israel.miracle of fishes 12 baskets ingath
@brazilian777able may be sincere but is sincerely wrong. Israel and the Church are separate entities and God works with one at a time. For God to directly work with Israel again the church must needs be removed.....e.g. the rapture.
Most unfortunately for those who have miscalulated the timing of the rapture this date has come and gone and no rapture.
The reason why the rapture didn't occur at this time is because the "man of sin, the son of perdition" the anti-christ must come 1st. ll Thess.. He will set himself up in the temple claiming to be God.
Also the rapture comes "at the last trumpet." The rapture will come Pre-wrath, before the "Day of the Lord" God's time of wrath against the nations, & not berfore. Prepare
amen brother - this whole pre-trib rapture theory is built on faulty interpretations of dynamic translations of the bible, which as as worthless as straw. literal bible versions present a pre-wrath rapture which is most biblically sound.
@mkmason2002: The video did not say that the Rapture WOULD happen in 2009, it just said it could. I do believe that it will occur in conjunction of a Jewish Holy Day just as When Jesus enter Jerusalem and When He arose etc. I pray that many will come to trust the Lord before it is too late. Time is VERY short. Maranatha!
The Jews were excellent astronomers who kept accurate records. They knew exactly which days the new moons would be far, far in advance of their own life times.
Rosh Hashanah is marked by some when the moon is sighted. Most people simply follow the astronomical facts that are known far beyond the times we will be alive. Those foreknown times are the dates usually on Jewish calendars. & on Google. Again, YHWH set the times for the new moons. Sayging "Well, it isn't reeeally a new moon at all until two paris of human eyes have seen and reported it" is not Scriptural.. Even the tides know better. We're warned not to add or subtract in Scriptures..
We're warned not to add or subtract in Scriptures..
Yet Saved does not make us instant scholars of the word.
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Hence we are to study... Praise Jesus* He knows the diff when one is growing in an understanding and when one knows and deliberately alters His Holy Word.
@Terri3210 Yeah... we're not to add or subtract in scriptures... But what have the translators done? There is also numerous forgeries and and problems with the AKJV. It is our duty to study the scripture and test it. Only by testing it can we be sure. If we don't test it, and assume it to be true, we are a lazy servants. If we can't be trusted with the little things, how can we be trusted with the big things? Be wise like serpents, but harmless as doves.
It doesn't change when the new moon is but it DOES change when the human holiday is celebrated. That every detail is not recorded doesn't change the fact that this is the way it's been done for millennia. The name Antiochus Epiphanes is not in the Bible either, but from where we are sitting in time, it's wise to pay a little attention to history and use it to provide the correct CONTEXT for the Scriptures. Otherwise, you end up being a post-tribber or something. :)
i dont know what to believe anymore. this rapture is actually project enoch.its a nwo plan to kidnap christians and cause chaos throughout the earth which will usher in the antichrist. this is all one big deceptive game. may the most high save us all.
Research more and above all pray. The whole concept of a pretrib rapture was developed by a couple of Jesuit priests.
If you study the history of the Jesuits, that should tell you something right there. What you need to know is in the Scriptures, but the Holy Spirit has to give the eyes to see it.
Epic theological fail. The concept has been around since the beginning. See Ephraim the Syrian. Also, the patterns for Rapture exists all throughout the Old Testament. See the story of Enoch and Lot. Also Ruth, the gentile bride, who was taken before the harvest came to the threshing floor. Also Rebekah (the Church), the bride of Isaac (Jesus). Abraham(the Father), sent his servant (the Spirit) to get the bride after Sarah, (Old Israel) had died, but before He married Keturah (Restored Israel).
Rogue - I do not look for "patterns" as other people perceive them. I prefer not to read between the lines of Scriptures but to look for what the Word actually says. There is no mention of a pretrib rapture. Again it was never even thought of until some Jesuit priests came up with the idea. Ruth & Rebekah are reeeal stretches. Lot & Noah left behind only death - zero, zilch, nada perople were "left behind!". The preTrib rapture scenario has billions left behind. Rapture yes, pretrib no.
It's not looking between the lines to notice that it's the same story over and over and over again. Rebekah is actually the most clear. Lot and Noah were saved from the Tribulation! They were protected while the unbelieving world was judged. EVERYBODY other than them was left behind. How can you say nobody was? And the pretrib Rapture is written all over the New Testament. "He will come as a thief in the night" and "He will come in power and great glory" cannot POSSIBLY be the same event!!!
Rogue - I know Yahushua/Jesus said the last days would be like the days of Noah and Lot. As soon as Noah and his family were in the Ark, disaster hit and killed every other human being. As soon as Lot left town, disaster hit and killed every last inhabitant of his city and those adjoining it. No left behinders. Go by what is written iin Scriptures, by what Yahushua said, not by non Biblical sources & "patterns". We are sternly warned not to add or subtract from Scriptures.
I imagine all the people who died in the flood felt pretty left behind. They all died. Just like the Tribulation will be a worldwide Holocaust once the Church is removed. I'm not adding anything. It's all right there in the Bible. If they are not there as patterns, then why do we need them? Why did He put them there?
"The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun." Eccl. 1:9
I said we are not to add or subtract from Scriptures. The Jesuits are not Scriptures. I do not detract my statements about the Jesuits. I have done research in that area. What your research is I have no idea, but I do see that, again, you need to learn to think more analytically. It takes time.
I'm about to graduate law school. All I do all day long is think analytically. I can't even figure out what you're saying that I am adding. The flood account was IN the Scriptures, last I checked.
I will respond if you don't insult me any more. There are lawyers in my immediate family. Just as in other fields, they think analytically according to how they are trained. That does not mean they always do so, by any means, in other areas. You should know the people who perished in the flood were not "left behind" in the sense of the typical pretrib rapture idea. The whole planet was in chaos, and they were fighting for their lives, not following any N. Carpathia (sp?) Are you serious?
You want analytical? Analyze this: IF all the Christians are Raptured at the Second Coming, and then all the evil who have taken the mark of the beast are destroyed immediately thereafter, then HOW is the earth populated in the Millennial Reign? All the Saints are Raptured and all the wicked are destroyed. There's no one left! If however, there is a Rapture before the Trib, and many converts during the Trib, then some of them would survive to repopulate the earth after the Second Coming.
Rogue - The pretrib rapture is based on "If there were" "How could" and reading between the lines. When Noah & Lot pulled out the left behinders had no descendants to repopulate. Yahushua said the last days would be as in the days of Lot & Noah. So there you go. See Steve Wohlberg''s White Horse Ministry vids. He quotes Scriptures, including Revelation, to make it clear the Word is saying there will be destruction of this planet & a new one created afterward.
I'm sorry that I notice all the practical reasons why the post-trib theory is schizophrenic with itself, rather than using what you to believe the "biblical" approach you employ of parsing words to suit your pre-conceived ideas.
Scriptures say nothing about two witnesses sighting a new moon. YHWH does not need human witnesses to determine when the new moon is. The Israeiis were fantastic astronomers and all knew exactly when the new moon would be. It is not man's eyes that determine when the new moon is. It is when it is. And when it is is when YHWH determined it would be.
Of course YHWH can do anything. However, He asks us to go by HIs Word, not traditions of men. If you will check you will certainly find out that the new moon is frequently not visible, and so is certainly not spotted by 2 witneses each lunar month in Israel or anywhere in the world.
Yahushua/Jesus said He did not come to destroy the Law but to perfect it. He said it would last til Heaven & earth passed away. They're still here! He told people that after His Resurrection when the destruction of the Temple came they should pray that their "flight not be in winter or on the Sabbath." Acts 15: Paul tells non Jewish converts to stick to Mosaic no-blood food laws. Acts 21: Paul is seen to keep all the law of Moses. "YHWH changes not" & Yahushua/Jesus is One with Him.
Also...you were quick to point the finger at me as being an evil person and lacking knowledge of God. It is this mentality that leads people to commit mass murder my friend, all in the name of our loving God.
You asked me to prove that nothing will happen. I don't have to prove anything because I am not making insane claims about the end of the world. Like I said, watch and see for yourself. NOTHING WILL HAPPEN!
Depends on how much they have studied the Scriptures. Scriptures say that this earth will pass away, be rolled up like a scroll, and "no more come to mind" even in the "Old" Testament. Just fyi.
That is an incorrect reading of those verses. It will pass away in that it will be destroyed by fire. But it will be refinished and stand forever. Ephesians 3:21
Oh, you don't believe in total destruction with the flood. This means you are picking and choosing in Scriptures and when it says the waters covered "the whole world" and "every living thing with breath in its nostrils", not on the Ark, died, you don't accept that. No doubt you are trusting in secular "wisdom" you have heard instead of YHWH Who was there & made it happen. If you rewrite the Scriptures to suit yourself, then why use it to argue for the pretrib rapture anyway?
Did the earth blow into a million pieces? No. That would be total destruction. The earth was capable of being repopulated. Under the waters' destruction, it was still THERE. Yes, every living thin on the earth, not in the ark, died. Don't read things I didn't write.
Rogue - Scriptures say this world will be "rolled up like a scroll" and "no more come to mind." There will be a new world. Traditions of men make it hard to see the obvious in Scriptures. Ex: Acts 15: Paul (who had NO authority to change the Sabbath btw & never tried to) tells non Jewish converts to refrain from blood, food forbidden by Mosaic Law. Acts 21: Paul shows he kept all the laws of Moses.
History & Scriptures show early believers kept the Saturday Sabbath, food laws, Holy Days.
The Sabbath is over and done with. Jesus was the Sabbath. The other 9 commandments are recommissioned at one place or another, but not the Sabbath. And the early Church started meeting on Sundays because that's the day Jesus was raised. I see you are a 7th Day Adventist, therefore trying to explain to you why the Law of Moses is over and done with would be futile. I tire of explaining grace to legalists. Good day.
I try to esteem ALL days holy and devoted to God. Whether I do or not is a matter for my own conscience (Rom14). I believe that Jesus WAS the sabbath...He "IS" the Sabbath and "IS YET" to continue being the Sabbath. I need grace. Like Paul, I'm chief among sinners. But the Law isn't done. It's fulfilled by Christ who is my advocate and proxy. The Law of His Word serves as a lamp to my path and keeps me from falling. At least, that's my 2¢ worth. : )
What is the "Law of Christ"? Love God with all mind, heart, soul and strength and love your neighbor as yourself. In these two greatest commandments hang ALL OF THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS (Matt.22). Doesn't the sermon on the mount ask us to not only obey the letter of the law, but the spirit of the law as well? The Mosaic law said we don't murder or commit adultery. The law of Christ said don't even murder or lust in our heart. A (Matt5:21-22;27-28)
Commandments." "Love YHWH" and ""Love your neighbor...enemy.." etc. all come from the "Old" Testament. He was quoting from Torah. Naturally.
YHWH changes not. Yahushua is One with HIm. They are One & have the same Laws. Yahushua said He did not come to destroy the Law and the prophets but to perfect them. He only went against the pharasaic traditions of men add-ons to the Torah, never to the Torah itself. That He upheld as did the apostles.
When Israelis all did "what was right in their own sight" rather than acting according to the Law of YHWH, they got in trouble. If the Law is "done" why did Paul tell nonJewish converts to obey Mosaic food laws - Acts 15. Why did he prove in Acts 21 that he kept all the Law of Moses?
Why did Yahushua say, re the time after He was gone, "Pray that your flight not be in winter or on the Sabbath." He kept the Sabbath. The apostles kept the Sabbath.
I don't agree, but you have a right to your own opinion. The evidence for the Rapture in the next 3 years is overwhelming. Many sites have info, suggest you do your own research before you decide.
Oh I have researched alright and not just researched what the opinion's of people of today are. You need to be timeless in your research for it to be of any effect and not just jump onboard with the alarmists of the day,
The two witnesses that have to report to the Sanhedrin the sighting of the new moon was for Rosh Chodesh - New Months. Also, there were smoke stacks devised when the witnesses seen so that everyone knew. Its in the Talmud tractate Brachos - I believe.
If you place your faith in, worship of, and elevate a dead man to one equal to YAHWEH you will perish. What you believe is your salvation (jesus) will be your demise. You have been warned and thus will be accountable for knowing this truth and ignoring it.
Any one hear about Russias top secret military site, that holds Russias most secret documents, catching fire Sunday? Major damage to the building and 5 soldiers killed...At the most secure site in Russia...Less than a week after Netanyahu visited them? Do you suppose the documents destroyed were linked to transfers of nukes / nuke materials? Then Monday there is a terror raid in NY.... What I mean is that the key end time players seem to be gearing up....
well obama will take his seat on the United Nations first pres to do it. that happens this week and next week the G-20 will be in Philadelphia PA, isnt there a scripture in rev about the church in philadelphia?? not saying there is an evident connection but its something to look into.
I can guarantee you all that you will be right where you are on Rosh Hashanah. Why you ask? Yes the there will be a Rapture, but it will be at the Second Advent of our Lord Jesus Christ immediately after the tribulation. You must prepare yourselves for the greatest persecution of the saints in history. God be with you.
man, I don't know what's on there. I had a Michael W. Smith song on there, but they were hounding me about copywrong infringement. I used that Audioswap.
Ceiri Torjussen is the artist. the song's called opening....
The original Mike Dubya Smith song was "We can't wait any longer" from the "Healing Rain" album.
The calendar only gives a rough estimate of when it would be celebrated. The festival according to the Bible can only begin upon the sighting of the sliver of the moon.
Yeah, I don't know about this calendar anyway. It actually reads" Rosh Hashanah begins at sundown on 18". ... But the day and the hour no one knows.
Yes to pretrib rapture. Could actually be like one of those faith things like " your faith has healed you." To all those who insist on sticking around, I know Millie (Ruckcuz01 )would apreciate it if you'd take care of her dog adin.
My best guess is that it's something orchestrated by Satan that will happen prior to the Abomination of Desolation. Whatever happens during this event will increase the intensity of judgment and give the Antichrist further opportunity to deceive the masses.
Well in 2nd thessalonians chapter 2 verses 6,7 and 8 says something about the rapture of the bride right before the revealing of the antichrist and funny enough there is going to be a g20 summit in Pittsburg PA on the 24-25 of september and all the world leaders are supposedly attending man It is so close but im not saying any dates though
I'm so excited it almost hurts for obvious reasons. This is the highlight of my 2009 year. May God bless and take us up to eternity if it is his will.
I hope and pray that Jesus will return this year's Rosh Hashanah. Time Will Tell... By the way on Rosh Hashanah it will be the Jewish Year 5770 plus 7 year trib 5777 plus 1000 year Millennium 6777. Just something to think about.
continuation from last post...9th of Av is the most solemn among jews historically.So on that day a blood red moon means a lot.It was the same day of the destruction of both previous temples.Jews were kicked out of England and Spain in 14th and 15th century same day.Bad report from spies of Jericho and worshipping the idol onSainai were the same day.God deals with patterns and He does not change He is giving signs.Repent and be saved from the coming destruction or be killed for your salvation
TrueValues77 1 year ago
I believe Jesus will rapture the chuch this year-2011!!! All the signs and prophesy point to it.It will be Rosh Hashanah-2011 Sep 27/28/29.The day that no man knows the day nor the hour.The Language of God is always in riddles because you will find it when you earnestly look for it even as He said in His Word-you will find me when u seek me with all your heart.There's a blood red moon on the 9th of Av in 2018.That should be when the antichrist starts killing jews and then armageddon.9th of Av...
TrueValues77 1 year ago
Please note this video is last years video. The Feast of Trumpets is on Sept 8 - 10 in 2010.
crazy650c 1 year ago
It will be a "Ingathering" NO rapture. It is the ingathering of the lost tribes that has been scatered all over the world (most don't even know they are part of the tribes of Israel) The word "Israel" for most part refers to the tribes not to the physical land. 1. Causing all the tribes to return to the Torah (christians was told "law" been deceived by theologians)., 2. Jerusalem will be divided., 3. All the tribes then will INGATHER in the physical Israel.miracle of fishes 12 baskets ingath
brazilian777able 1 year ago
@brazilian777able may be sincere but is sincerely wrong. Israel and the Church are separate entities and God works with one at a time. For God to directly work with Israel again the church must needs be removed.....e.g. the rapture.
crazy650c 1 year ago
I was born here, September 18th, 1982. On Rosh Hashanah. My name is EliYah. All Glory is Yahuhay's HalleluYah.
MynameisEliYah 1 year ago
Most unfortunately for those who have miscalulated the timing of the rapture this date has come and gone and no rapture.
The reason why the rapture didn't occur at this time is because the "man of sin, the son of perdition" the anti-christ must come 1st. ll Thess.. He will set himself up in the temple claiming to be God.
Also the rapture comes "at the last trumpet." The rapture will come Pre-wrath, before the "Day of the Lord" God's time of wrath against the nations, & not berfore. Prepare
mkmason2002 2 years ago
amen brother - this whole pre-trib rapture theory is built on faulty interpretations of dynamic translations of the bible, which as as worthless as straw. literal bible versions present a pre-wrath rapture which is most biblically sound.
evilunixuser1 2 years ago
@mkmason2002: The video did not say that the Rapture WOULD happen in 2009, it just said it could. I do believe that it will occur in conjunction of a Jewish Holy Day just as When Jesus enter Jerusalem and When He arose etc. I pray that many will come to trust the Lord before it is too late. Time is VERY short. Maranatha!
ljackso 1 year ago
No matter the course we keep watch!
No man knows the day or hour.
Gods timing is perfect... Praise Jesus*
Terri3210 2 years ago
so 7:22 pm in Jerusalem?
pur3o3end 2 years ago
The Declaration of the New Heaven and Earth (21:1)
The new heaven and earth in Scripture (cf. Isaiah 65:17; 66:22).
The main emphasis is its uniqueness; it is quite different from the old.
The new heaven and earth are changed as in a new creation
(cf. Revelation 20:1f with 20:11 and 2 Peter 3:10, which describes the dissolving of the old heaven and earth).
It will be the same earth just refurbished like after a cleansing flood
Terri3210 2 years ago
This earth will be "rolled up like a scroll."
That means end of story for this planet.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
Sky rolls back and the earth will be burned. The earth is not rolled up.
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
If the Jews knew for certain what day the moon would sliver the festival would be a set date.
It possibly may not sliver until the 22 or the 23 ... time will tell.
I pray its this years sliver we slip away.
Jesus* come quickly for your Bride.
Terri3210 2 years ago
The Jews were excellent astronomers who kept accurate records. They knew exactly which days the new moons would be far, far in advance of their own life times.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
If its so for certain why is Rosh Hashanah festival not pre-dated each year according to the moon?
Or is it set ... but its the potential clouds that create a problem in reading the moon?
Terri3210 2 years ago
It's difficult to predict when the sliver will be sighted. That's the only reason.
It's expected to be seen at dusk today in Israel.
firecharger 2 years ago
Thanks firecharger and today is just like any other day... God only knows... man im ready! I pray the Lord is.
Terri3210 2 years ago
Rosh Hashanah is marked by some when the moon is sighted. Most people simply follow the astronomical facts that are known far beyond the times we will be alive. Those foreknown times are the dates usually on Jewish calendars. & on Google. Again, YHWH set the times for the new moons. Sayging "Well, it isn't reeeally a new moon at all until two paris of human eyes have seen and reported it" is not Scriptural.. Even the tides know better. We're warned not to add or subtract in Scriptures..
LoricaLady 2 years ago
Feed my Sheep:
We're warned not to add or subtract in Scriptures..
Yet Saved does not make us instant scholars of the word.
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Hence we are to study... Praise Jesus* He knows the diff when one is growing in an understanding and when one knows and deliberately alters His Holy Word.
Terri3210 2 years ago 2
@Terri3210 Yeah... we're not to add or subtract in scriptures... But what have the translators done? There is also numerous forgeries and and problems with the AKJV. It is our duty to study the scripture and test it. Only by testing it can we be sure. If we don't test it, and assume it to be true, we are a lazy servants. If we can't be trusted with the little things, how can we be trusted with the big things? Be wise like serpents, but harmless as doves.
WilliamTapley 11 months ago
It doesn't change when the new moon is but it DOES change when the human holiday is celebrated. That every detail is not recorded doesn't change the fact that this is the way it's been done for millennia. The name Antiochus Epiphanes is not in the Bible either, but from where we are sitting in time, it's wise to pay a little attention to history and use it to provide the correct CONTEXT for the Scriptures. Otherwise, you end up being a post-tribber or something. :)
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
i dont know what to believe anymore. this rapture is actually project enoch.its a nwo plan to kidnap christians and cause chaos throughout the earth which will usher in the antichrist. this is all one big deceptive game. may the most high save us all.
joeyblack1980 2 years ago
Research more and above all pray. The whole concept of a pretrib rapture was developed by a couple of Jesuit priests.
If you study the history of the Jesuits, that should tell you something right there. What you need to know is in the Scriptures, but the Holy Spirit has to give the eyes to see it.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
Epic theological fail. The concept has been around since the beginning. See Ephraim the Syrian. Also, the patterns for Rapture exists all throughout the Old Testament. See the story of Enoch and Lot. Also Ruth, the gentile bride, who was taken before the harvest came to the threshing floor. Also Rebekah (the Church), the bride of Isaac (Jesus). Abraham(the Father), sent his servant (the Spirit) to get the bride after Sarah, (Old Israel) had died, but before He married Keturah (Restored Israel).
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
Rogue - I do not look for "patterns" as other people perceive them. I prefer not to read between the lines of Scriptures but to look for what the Word actually says. There is no mention of a pretrib rapture. Again it was never even thought of until some Jesuit priests came up with the idea. Ruth & Rebekah are reeeal stretches. Lot & Noah left behind only death - zero, zilch, nada perople were "left behind!". The preTrib rapture scenario has billions left behind. Rapture yes, pretrib no.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
It's not looking between the lines to notice that it's the same story over and over and over again. Rebekah is actually the most clear. Lot and Noah were saved from the Tribulation! They were protected while the unbelieving world was judged. EVERYBODY other than them was left behind. How can you say nobody was? And the pretrib Rapture is written all over the New Testament. "He will come as a thief in the night" and "He will come in power and great glory" cannot POSSIBLY be the same event!!!
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
And the Jesuit priest thing is a complete lie made up by people like you who hate the idea. Just cause you heard it doesn't make it true!
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
Rogue - I know Yahushua/Jesus said the last days would be like the days of Noah and Lot. As soon as Noah and his family were in the Ark, disaster hit and killed every other human being. As soon as Lot left town, disaster hit and killed every last inhabitant of his city and those adjoining it. No left behinders. Go by what is written iin Scriptures, by what Yahushua said, not by non Biblical sources & "patterns". We are sternly warned not to add or subtract from Scriptures.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
I imagine all the people who died in the flood felt pretty left behind. They all died. Just like the Tribulation will be a worldwide Holocaust once the Church is removed. I'm not adding anything. It's all right there in the Bible. If they are not there as patterns, then why do we need them? Why did He put them there?
"The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun." Eccl. 1:9
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
And aren't you the one adding all your Jesuit blather? SPEAKING OF ADDING...
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
Please learn to think more analytically.
I said we are not to add or subtract from Scriptures. The Jesuits are not Scriptures. I do not detract my statements about the Jesuits. I have done research in that area. What your research is I have no idea, but I do see that, again, you need to learn to think more analytically. It takes time.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
I'm about to graduate law school. All I do all day long is think analytically. I can't even figure out what you're saying that I am adding. The flood account was IN the Scriptures, last I checked.
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
I will respond if you don't insult me any more. There are lawyers in my immediate family. Just as in other fields, they think analytically according to how they are trained. That does not mean they always do so, by any means, in other areas. You should know the people who perished in the flood were not "left behind" in the sense of the typical pretrib rapture idea. The whole planet was in chaos, and they were fighting for their lives, not following any N. Carpathia (sp?) Are you serious?
LoricaLady 2 years ago
You want analytical? Analyze this: IF all the Christians are Raptured at the Second Coming, and then all the evil who have taken the mark of the beast are destroyed immediately thereafter, then HOW is the earth populated in the Millennial Reign? All the Saints are Raptured and all the wicked are destroyed. There's no one left! If however, there is a Rapture before the Trib, and many converts during the Trib, then some of them would survive to repopulate the earth after the Second Coming.
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago 3
man, that's a killer proof.
firecharger 2 years ago
Rogue - The pretrib rapture is based on "If there were" "How could" and reading between the lines. When Noah & Lot pulled out the left behinders had no descendants to repopulate. Yahushua said the last days would be as in the days of Lot & Noah. So there you go. See Steve Wohlberg''s White Horse Ministry vids. He quotes Scriptures, including Revelation, to make it clear the Word is saying there will be destruction of this planet & a new one created afterward.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
I'm sorry that I notice all the practical reasons why the post-trib theory is schizophrenic with itself, rather than using what you to believe the "biblical" approach you employ of parsing words to suit your pre-conceived ideas.
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
Rogue - Back to the insulting approach. Tsk. Tsk. Bye! Shoulda known.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
Maybe you're just overly sensitive?
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
P.S.. I will only put up with a certain amount of hostility and verbal abuse before I block someone. You are now on block. Bye.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
Um...you can't do that. But if you'd care to stop trying to argue with me, that would be fine.
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
Scriptures say nothing about two witnesses sighting a new moon. YHWH does not need human witnesses to determine when the new moon is. The Israeiis were fantastic astronomers and all knew exactly when the new moon would be. It is not man's eyes that determine when the new moon is. It is when it is. And when it is is when YHWH determined it would be.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
He could just as easily allow them to see the sliver on His appointed day....
firecharger 2 years ago
Of course YHWH can do anything. However, He asks us to go by HIs Word, not traditions of men. If you will check you will certainly find out that the new moon is frequently not visible, and so is certainly not spotted by 2 witneses each lunar month in Israel or anywhere in the world.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
Moonrise, moonset and moonphase...don't forget about moonbogg!
Moonbogg 2 years ago
Jesus has nothing to do with Rosh Hashana
MsVi1973 2 years ago
That's like saying God has nothing to do with rainbows.
Rosh Hashanah is one of God's 7 jewish feasts that God gave in Leviticus.
Jesus fulfilled the 3 spring feasts on the very day of their occupance. The holy spirit was given exactly on Pentecost.
Jesus has EVERYTHING to do with Rosh Hashanah. Rosh Hashanah is the feast of trumpets from leviticus 23:24
firecharger 2 years ago
Yahushua/Jesus said He did not come to destroy the Law but to perfect it. He said it would last til Heaven & earth passed away. They're still here! He told people that after His Resurrection when the destruction of the Temple came they should pray that their "flight not be in winter or on the Sabbath." Acts 15: Paul tells non Jewish converts to stick to Mosaic no-blood food laws. Acts 21: Paul is seen to keep all the law of Moses. "YHWH changes not" & Yahushua/Jesus is One with Him.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
Also...you were quick to point the finger at me as being an evil person and lacking knowledge of God. It is this mentality that leads people to commit mass murder my friend, all in the name of our loving God.
Moonbogg 2 years ago
You asked me to prove that nothing will happen. I don't have to prove anything because I am not making insane claims about the end of the world. Like I said, watch and see for yourself. NOTHING WILL HAPPEN!
Moonbogg 2 years ago
Nobody believed the earth would be flooded either. Only 8 people lived through that.
firecharger 2 years ago
Actually, Christians believe the world will never end. Just fyi.
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
Depends on how much they have studied the Scriptures. Scriptures say that this earth will pass away, be rolled up like a scroll, and "no more come to mind" even in the "Old" Testament. Just fyi.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
That is an incorrect reading of those verses. It will pass away in that it will be destroyed by fire. But it will be refinished and stand forever. Ephesians 3:21
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
Roque - I'm sorry but there is nothing in Ephesians 3:21 which even refers to the
destruction of this world to make room for the new one to come.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
That's because the destruction isn't total destruction. Just like the flood wasn't.
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
Oh, you don't believe in total destruction with the flood. This means you are picking and choosing in Scriptures and when it says the waters covered "the whole world" and "every living thing with breath in its nostrils", not on the Ark, died, you don't accept that. No doubt you are trusting in secular "wisdom" you have heard instead of YHWH Who was there & made it happen. If you rewrite the Scriptures to suit yourself, then why use it to argue for the pretrib rapture anyway?
LoricaLady 2 years ago
Did the earth blow into a million pieces? No. That would be total destruction. The earth was capable of being repopulated. Under the waters' destruction, it was still THERE. Yes, every living thin on the earth, not in the ark, died. Don't read things I didn't write.
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
Rogue - Scriptures say this world will be "rolled up like a scroll" and "no more come to mind." There will be a new world. Traditions of men make it hard to see the obvious in Scriptures. Ex: Acts 15: Paul (who had NO authority to change the Sabbath btw & never tried to) tells non Jewish converts to refrain from blood, food forbidden by Mosaic Law. Acts 21: Paul shows he kept all the laws of Moses.
History & Scriptures show early believers kept the Saturday Sabbath, food laws, Holy Days.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
The Sabbath is over and done with. Jesus was the Sabbath. The other 9 commandments are recommissioned at one place or another, but not the Sabbath. And the early Church started meeting on Sundays because that's the day Jesus was raised. I see you are a 7th Day Adventist, therefore trying to explain to you why the Law of Moses is over and done with would be futile. I tire of explaining grace to legalists. Good day.
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
I try to esteem ALL days holy and devoted to God. Whether I do or not is a matter for my own conscience (Rom14). I believe that Jesus WAS the sabbath...He "IS" the Sabbath and "IS YET" to continue being the Sabbath. I need grace. Like Paul, I'm chief among sinners. But the Law isn't done. It's fulfilled by Christ who is my advocate and proxy. The Law of His Word serves as a lamp to my path and keeps me from falling. At least, that's my 2¢ worth. : )
maranathachapelTV 2 years ago
The Law of Moses is done away with. We are under the Law of Christ. Which isn't really a Law at all.
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
What is the "Law of Christ"? Love God with all mind, heart, soul and strength and love your neighbor as yourself. In these two greatest commandments hang ALL OF THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS (Matt.22). Doesn't the sermon on the mount ask us to not only obey the letter of the law, but the spirit of the law as well? The Mosaic law said we don't murder or commit adultery. The law of Christ said don't even murder or lust in our heart. A (Matt5:21-22;27-28)
IMCcanTWEESTED 2 years ago
Bingo
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
Yahushua said, "If you love me keep my
Commandments." "Love YHWH" and ""Love your neighbor...enemy.." etc. all come from the "Old" Testament. He was quoting from Torah. Naturally.
YHWH changes not. Yahushua is One with HIm. They are One & have the same Laws. Yahushua said He did not come to destroy the Law and the prophets but to perfect them. He only went against the pharasaic traditions of men add-ons to the Torah, never to the Torah itself. That He upheld as did the apostles.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
Nope.
Rogueoftroy 2 years ago
When Israelis all did "what was right in their own sight" rather than acting according to the Law of YHWH, they got in trouble. If the Law is "done" why did Paul tell nonJewish converts to obey Mosaic food laws - Acts 15. Why did he prove in Acts 21 that he kept all the Law of Moses?
Why did Yahushua say, re the time after He was gone, "Pray that your flight not be in winter or on the Sabbath." He kept the Sabbath. The apostles kept the Sabbath.
YHWH changes not. Neither do HIs laws.
LoricaLady 2 years ago
MoonB
I don't agree, but you have a right to your own opinion. The evidence for the Rapture in the next 3 years is overwhelming. Many sites have info, suggest you do your own research before you decide.
pegg10 2 years ago
Oh I have researched alright and not just researched what the opinion's of people of today are. You need to be timeless in your research for it to be of any effect and not just jump onboard with the alarmists of the day,
Moonbogg 2 years ago
The two witnesses that have to report to the Sanhedrin the sighting of the new moon was for Rosh Chodesh - New Months. Also, there were smoke stacks devised when the witnesses seen so that everyone knew. Its in the Talmud tractate Brachos - I believe.
DofaDofah 2 years ago
NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN! If you are that bored, get into vidoe games...oh wait...those must be evil somehow right?
Moonbogg 2 years ago
Nothing's gonna happen, huh? Prove it. You sure think your opinion holds a lot of weight.
Before you even mention it...
My opinion is based on the bible which has proven itself to be true every time.
Looks as if your "knowledge of good and evil" has caused you to think you are "as God."
firecharger 2 years ago
If you place your faith in, worship of, and elevate a dead man to one equal to YAHWEH you will perish. What you believe is your salvation (jesus) will be your demise. You have been warned and thus will be accountable for knowing this truth and ignoring it.
reserveduntofire 2 years ago
You are a blasphemer. You're gonna find out the hard way that Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
firecharger 2 years ago
Any one hear about Russias top secret military site, that holds Russias most secret documents, catching fire Sunday? Major damage to the building and 5 soldiers killed...At the most secure site in Russia...Less than a week after Netanyahu visited them? Do you suppose the documents destroyed were linked to transfers of nukes / nuke materials? Then Monday there is a terror raid in NY.... What I mean is that the key end time players seem to be gearing up....
clint28012 2 years ago
very interesting observation. I never wish for this to happen, but the russians may be about to attack.
firecharger 2 years ago
Thank you for your nice video firecharger.
coulbydunn 2 years ago
It seems that the rapture will be on Monday.
coulbydunn 2 years ago
Quite possible. There's the UN General Assembly meeting 2 days later to announce the "resumption of peace talks."
According to the definition of the word "covenant" (daniel 9:27) i believe this would qualify as that agreement.
Be prepared no matter what happens.
firecharger 2 years ago
Yes... this is the year He will begin to fulfill the fall feasts... That is what I am led to believe by what i have been shown...
God Bless You All & Accept Christ As Your Saviour Redeemer Now Before It's Too Late
2222554 2 years ago
well obama will take his seat on the United Nations first pres to do it. that happens this week and next week the G-20 will be in Philadelphia PA, isnt there a scripture in rev about the church in philadelphia?? not saying there is an evident connection but its something to look into.
GOD BLESS
christsdciple 2 years ago
The BEAST was given power to overcome the saints...
LatterDaysWatchman 2 years ago
I can guarantee you all that you will be right where you are on Rosh Hashanah. Why you ask? Yes the there will be a Rapture, but it will be at the Second Advent of our Lord Jesus Christ immediately after the tribulation. You must prepare yourselves for the greatest persecution of the saints in history. God be with you.
LatterDaysWatchman 2 years ago
Andy, what music group is this.. ? I really dig it..
angrywhiteduck 2 years ago
man, I don't know what's on there. I had a Michael W. Smith song on there, but they were hounding me about copywrong infringement. I used that Audioswap.
Ceiri Torjussen is the artist. the song's called opening....
The original Mike Dubya Smith song was "We can't wait any longer" from the "Healing Rain" album.
firecharger 2 years ago
Man... I cant wait !!!!
Ive been talking to my wife about this tonight... it really looks like EVERYTHING is lined up....
angrywhiteduck 2 years ago
Yeah, I've pretty much come to terms with it. This is it. Rapture or no rapture, God's will be done.
Pray hard for your families people. Get right if ya ain't right!
firecharger 2 years ago
Firecharger,
I thought your video was terrific--I too am hoping for this year, but will continue the fight until He takes me out. :)
pegg10 2 years ago
Another great informative video bro. Let's pray for this day.
God Bless All
misscassiegirl 2 years ago
Hey! My calendar says the 18th, but... who knows right?
yrulooknatme 2 years ago
The calendar only gives a rough estimate of when it would be celebrated. The festival according to the Bible can only begin upon the sighting of the sliver of the moon.
firecharger 2 years ago
Yeah, I don't know about this calendar anyway. It actually reads" Rosh Hashanah begins at sundown on 18". ... But the day and the hour no one knows.
Yes to pretrib rapture. Could actually be like one of those faith things like " your faith has healed you." To all those who insist on sticking around, I know Millie (Ruckcuz01 )would apreciate it if you'd take care of her dog adin.
I hope that's how you spell the name.
yrulooknatme 2 years ago
no pretrib rapture on RH or any other day- good informational vid though thanks!
kenandjasha 2 years ago
Great Job on the video BRO!!
Ruckcuz01 2 years ago
Can you make a video explaining the rapture. I know many Christians that don't believe in it so what is the proof?
theanswersofnwo3 2 years ago
can you make a video describing your thoughts on 2012 and the christian implications?
fbhampton 2 years ago
My best guess is that it's something orchestrated by Satan that will happen prior to the Abomination of Desolation. Whatever happens during this event will increase the intensity of judgment and give the Antichrist further opportunity to deceive the masses.
firecharger 2 years ago
Ladies and Gentlemen..... The time is approaching...... Put your trust and faith in Jesus Christ....
angrywhiteduck 2 years ago 3
Well in 2nd thessalonians chapter 2 verses 6,7 and 8 says something about the rapture of the bride right before the revealing of the antichrist and funny enough there is going to be a g20 summit in Pittsburg PA on the 24-25 of september and all the world leaders are supposedly attending man It is so close but im not saying any dates though
goFlyers66 2 years ago 2
Don't forget UN General Assembly Meeting where Obama, Netanyahu, and Abbas will be together to announce a "RESUMPTION OF PEACE TALKS"
Daniel 9:27 says there will be a Covenant. Covenant is a very vague word that could mean a small agreement all the way up to a full blown treaty.
Even the agreement to Negotiate the final status of Borders, Jerusalem, Settlements, etc could be the "covenant" of the 70 weeks prophecy
firecharger 2 years ago
i forgot about that when is that supposed to happen?
goFlyers66 2 years ago
next weekend
firecharger 2 years ago
I'm so excited it almost hurts for obvious reasons. This is the highlight of my 2009 year. May God bless and take us up to eternity if it is his will.
chimpolives4ever 2 years ago
I hope and pray that Jesus will return this year's Rosh Hashanah. Time Will Tell... By the way on Rosh Hashanah it will be the Jewish Year 5770 plus 7 year trib 5777 plus 1000 year Millennium 6777. Just something to think about.
Eric18600 2 years ago 5
Jesus Christ will return to RAVISHED THE BRIDE!
forpeaceable 2 years ago 4
If I go to prepare a place for you I will come again.Jesus Christ.
EndTimeProphecy 2 years ago 4
amen !
forpeaceable 2 years ago
forpeacable, I don't think you mean "ravished", I think you mean "raptured"
pegg10 2 years ago
visti rapture2009(dot) org
forpeaceable 2 years ago 3
Excellent website. I enjoy the "visions and dreams" section.
firecharger 2 years ago
Also, the bible codes are mind boggling.
Anyone that doesn't believe in the authenticity of Bible codes hasn't done enough research on them.
firecharger 2 years ago
Great site, ty for sharing.
chimpolives4ever 2 years ago
Another Excellent Video!
Listen up folks we are a few short days way from the Feasts.
Please tell everyone you can about Jesus Christ our Lord and saviour. It's free!
There is a wonderful and glorious moment about to happen!
behearsoon 2 years ago 3