يحول بعض من الزنوج والغربيين وبعض من الجرانينا العرب بشراء كتابت تاريخنا وجدودنا بالمال لك يطمس هويتنا االاسلامية ولامازيغية في الصحراء الكبراء...........في هذه الفديو
this is cool stuff. Africa has a unique history of it's own, arguably influenced by Islam but not anymore than Northern Europe is influenced by the ancient Greeks and Romans. It's cool to see that this did not go the way of the dodo, if Africa would have any chance to re-find it's past greatness, it is only through re-discovering it's past and trying to revive it's this culture--not some faux-european derived culture. i'm not African but i find this hella is cool.
For any racist out there, African Language in its root has even been linked to the oldest Chinese lost and unused languages. In fact when they discovered the correlation it helped them to translate it and make sense of the cultures that existed there. Africans had a pretty unique and extensive writing and recording system well before even the 8th century. The problem is war and natural deterioration process. Look at how bad these books where and this was the desert.
THE FACT MOST AFRICAN AND OTHER POST COLONIAL COUNTRIES HAD TO BUY THEIR INDEPENDENCE FROM EUROPEAN COUNTRIES WHICH CREATED "THIRD WORLD DEBT" IS RARELY BROADCAST.
NOW if the ancient city of TIMBUCTU were already writing by the 10th CENTURY in as well as the EMPIRE of GHANA by the 8th CENTURY in the ORIGINAL SUDANI arabic SCRIPT. So wouldn't that mean that the MOORS who came from WESTERN SUDAN were from these WESTERN SUDANESE empires?!?!
@TutankhAusar Why should the black man lynch himself when it is non-blacks who are hybrid descendants of his Norman perfect gene called ALBINOS who suffer from albinism and were biblical lepers. You should thank the black man. He is the reason you genetic mutants have the "tiny bit" melanin which gets its blackness from Carbon, the building blocks of life. ALL living beings need carbon, which you lack.
@mbukukanyau Understanding the past is key to the know how of present day Africans. The question "what have we to show know?" Defeats the purpose of the Documentary .Each and every country needs to study its history in order to understand the growth that it can have.
besides it is scientifically proven that everything started in africa and also includes education,were sorry to cast u all out n made u to go way far up north,east and west.n thats why they call it MOTHERLAND.lol.......came back with a rage and take our grand parents and made them diversly,n wipe out some of our history.sorry u cant lure bees over their hive :P
cant believe why u all arguing about who is right n who is wrong and to those who after some next racial comments,it is obviously shows u have no aknowledgment about anything,it shows black n white that ur genetic offspring since ur predecessors were FOOLS.Timbuktu was center of enlightment so as the whole africa. did u know that algebra and vector methods started from africa??,u wouldnt know because u r too busy for not thinking beyond to see the light.
and Timbuktu was the crossroads for the african/islamic slave trade........think on africans...you profited more than most for enslaving your own people as well as Scots/Irish/Norman/Spanish/Saxons/Vickings/etc etc...
Arab people created Timbuktu not African black!! NO Islam and the great Arab created Timbuktu and the Africans were our slaves! AU Muhammad will be very angry!!
first of all you stupid fuck arabs did not creat timbuktu, as a matter of fact not everybody in the madé empire was muslim at the time but what you need to know is that the peopel of timbuctu was buisness men so they traveled to different countries like europe, greece, the arab world and other parts of the world and copied work and procedded and worked on it and gathered their own knowledge no different from that people today gather knowledge from other countries
Exactly correct. It's a clear distortion that claims Malian culture was Arab/Islamic based; it was not; the common people did not celebrate it as a regular practice, and, as ancestor 's Chiek Anta Diop and Ivan Van Sertima have asserted, was only used by the government, then, for trade purposes (Arabs controlled most of the trade routes which dealt with the transfer of goods from Africa, Europe and Asia then).
@jamrock1ful - Timbuktu was a Tuareg-Berber seasonal encampment that was annexed by Mansa Musa (a Mande' King) and made part of the Ancient Malian Empire. Immediately following his annexation of Timbuktu, Mansa Musa ordered the building of a palace, universities, and mosques, and sent hundreds, if not thousands of scholars to teach and live there. Arabs had nothing to do with it. You won't find a SINGLE historic reference to any Arabs ever conquering, or controlling Ancient Mali.
Also, not one single non-Mande person ever ruled the Ancient Malian Empire. The only reason they converted to Islam was to expand trade into North Africa. The reason they wrote many of their scrolls
in Arabic, was because that was the language of the quran, and was more widely known by the various groups living in the Empire. All of the various Mande groups had their own Poro/Sande-related writing systems though. Also, they were never slaves to any Arabs. That's insane.
@m018264808888 u are so right, Africans had writing systems before the Arabs came along. I'm in grad school and I did a paper on the many writing systems of Africa.
@smoothnubian - The majority of these racist individuals in this forum don't even bother to study history before making a comment about it. The Mande' people who built the Ancient Malian empire were my ancestors, and I know a great deal about our history. Many of the scrolls that are described as being written in Arabic, are in fact written in Mande' (Manden ka), or Dogo (the original language of the Mani people), using the Arabic alphabet only, but not the language its self.
A modern equivalent of this would be how we English speakers can recognize most or all of the letters used in the Spanish, French, etc., written languages, but cannot necessarily understand the words formed, using those letters that we recognize. In addition, many of the scrolls in Timbuktu and other places in Mali, were written in indigenous scripts. There are many written languages indigenous to Africa: Adinkra, Tifingh, Ethiopic, etc., some people are just uneducated.
first of all of some of you guys do proper research,blacks where already educated beforethe 1300's in mali.when the arabs came there the arabs were not on the same level of the blacks. second writing was in africa before the perisans.look up up african scripts in google and type in timbuktu in google in wikipeda.stop being so damn lazy.
@CELL111able You clown tubukt2 is not that old lol idiot hahaha they only had writing because of the Arabs going there about 800 years ago befor that they had shit stop smoking crack lol
@lar5220 timbuktu is around was built around 1100 a.d.writing was use in the ghan kingosm around 700 a.d. you forget that. jenne had writing before timbuktu the arabs brought in thier writing before timbuktu in west africa,dummy.
@lar5220 you stop stealing black history,and you other comments is full of racist sick incorrect non-sense.when the proof is right in your face you racsit still deny african greatness. that's a mind of a sicko.
@CELL111able African history is mud huts tribal war fare and cannibalism that about it stop trying to steel other people history you dumb savage if you go to Africa today nothing has changed in 80000 years over there hahaha only change there brought by cucasions primitive savage hunter gather societies is all that there is in black Africa with out cucasion going there lol stop lying about it
Hmmm...lemme see...Nubia, Egypt, to name a few. Whites in Northern Europe did not even have writing systems until Romans civilized those barbarians. The Romans did not have it before the Phoenicians gave it to them. Dorian Greeks not prior to Minoans. And cannibilism, eating human flesh for its own sake, is a white thing (as in the whites who would rather eat each other than starve to death).
Hmmm...lemme see...Nubia, Egypt, to name a few. Whites in Northern Europe did not even have writing systems until Romans civilized those barbarians. The Romans did not have it before the Phoenicians gave it to them. Dorian Greeks not prior to Minoans. And cannibilism, eating human flesh for its own sake, is a white thing (as in the whites who would rather eat each other than starve to death). Arab writing itself is African. lol
Arab does not want to sell those books! and look at the way them are treating those books in a dusty old box and man handling those very very badly indeed, they don't even look very old, 1300s lol I don't believe a world, if so they should be wearing gloves at least.. but there are not real that's why.. I know all about ink and printing and they are fake I reckon! One more thing, where did they get the paper from as its more or less a desert in Timbuktu! ?!
Arab does not want to sell those books! and look at the way them are treating those books in a dusty old box and man handling those books very badly, they don't look very old 1300s lol I don't believe a world, if so they should be wearing gloves at least.. but there not real that's why.. I know all about ink and printing and they are fake, word!
Omg the people of Timbuktu WERE NOT ARAB. They did not gain ALL of their knowledge from Arabs either. Trading goes back and forth. That is including goods AND brains.
Correction, islam was assisted in foundation by clacks. Have you heard of Muhammad's Ethiopian tutors, hired by his wealthy first wife? They are contemporary misinterpreted as his slaves, but can you not say that their Ethiopian mysticism did not i influence him? Additionally, Muhammad's first converts were from ETHIOPIA, no Arabia -- Arabs were Muhammeds most bitter enemies in the beginning, hence the battles of Mecca!
@RoachBurger I do not no what you are saying first writing comes from Persia not Africa in the first place so does not matter who he was around it all came from Persia not in Africa or ethiopians who were chistion in the first place who got writing from the christions Arabs or persian and there not black
To question if universities that ran for over 600 years at its peak in the heart of sub-saharan Africa had black scholars is like asking if tany white people attend German schools. Not to mention that it was the Arab element that practically pulled Europe out of its savage barbaric dark age and spurred the Reniassance. They have an estimated 700,000 scripts today not including ones that were either lost in trade or destroyed. One can only wonder what part it played in moorish Spains revival.
The term "arab" is loosely defined. Mali and Timbuctoo is Sahelian in culture. Namely Mande, Fulani, Songhai, Amazigh, and Hausa. Even the script is a modified Arabic for those languages called Ajami.
theSOASstudent is saying, the greatest thing about African scholarship is knowing not only that it is original but that our ancestors genuinely sought knowledge and distributed it peacefully and amicably. we should be proud of that intellectual heritage alone as other nations tended to force ideals upon others. the centers at Ra'Kedet and Timbuktu were genuine centers for learning while other ancient Universities held agendas such as Greeks' ethnocentric Akademia.
are you really so racist that you would deny evidence that has just been presented before your eyes? Like many Islamic Universities (including those of Portugal and Spain) of course they studied religion but they also studies Mathematics, Sciences such as chemistry and astronomy and even nutrition and Medicine.. I would have to say, this doesn't seem much different from Catholic universities such as Fordham and Loyola.. what you are doing is holding on to archaic racists notions.. let it go!!!
Thats funny! that Egypt is a part of middle east and not Africa. How come they won the African cup of nations? and then you go to colour. It is not colour brown of black that make one an African. African belongs to black people, arabs, and all other people who are coloured or not but have established there presence and call Africa home. What colour was queen Nefertiti? Grey, brown, black or white? read your history
they are still part of north africa but north africa lies in the middle east,africa is the continent but middle east is just an area which encompass some of asia,europe and africa and ancient afrcians were nubian blacks,but the invaders were muslim of different complexion thats why there are arabs there also
just look at the africans today, using the languages their colonizer had left them, living within the borders their colonizers had drawn...cant the african 'civilizations' at least use their own languages? that's the least some which could be counted as civilization could do. i did like to ask, dont the african 'civilizations' have anything contributing to the developements of the human society at all besides their rich mineral resources?
if africa was not invaded and colonialized it would have been great,the colonizers destroyed the countries history killed the people and seperate them for them to kill each other,then used their minerals to build europe richies and power and left some places in africa poor
Lets not even mention, the library at Ra Kedet, that Julius Caesar destroyed.. We African peoples could have has a period of enlightenment millennia before the European renaissance period. regardless, seeing this video brings great joy as now we can study from our own text rather than texts that have been prepared for us from outsiders.
@bussmove It all depends on how you look at it if you thnk being a stone age hunter gather with a life span of 30 is good then you are right but if not then you are wrong would not make much of a difference
IF humans came from africa that is another issue, but the matter is about civilization. they are agreed upon to have started first in the middle east (that includes egypt), I have nothing against africans but north africans are brown-white who look arabs, that's where the civilization was, and so Timbuktu was influenced by THESE ppl, that's why the ppl in the video have arabic names and are muslim.
The Empire of Wagandu (Ghana) was established before the Arabs arrived and on their way to litteracy, having developed symbols. Wagandu had cities and urban centres. Even after Arabs arrived some elements of Juju (Vodoo) survived even with Islam. Now, The University of Sankoore was the third University in the world with 25,000 scholars at its peak. Asking if these scholars were black is like asking if the kangaroo lives in Australia. THIS WAS THE HEART OF WEST AFRICA....
If Europeans can not be credited for having built the civilization that they found when they ''discovered America'', do you think that the Arabs who came with the expansion of Islam a couple of centuries ago should be credited with the Egyptian civilization that they found?
How many Arabs (ethnic ones) do you see with braided hair as we can see on almost all the ancient Egyptian representation? Do you have an answer to that?
Egyptions are not ethnicaly arabs, and who said that arabs are accredited with their civilization?
Ancient egypt was not a black country, I am not trying to say anything against black people, but egypt is Egyptian they are brown looking people, they may have had some nubians, but still it was not a black nation.
In regards to that ancient time their was no arab civilization, only samarian, assyrian (semetic ppl like jews and arabs) and maybe some early asian ppl.
@theray2006 Ancient Egypt was BLACK...everyone is always trying to steal our history because it was so great. All of western civilization is predicated on ancient Egypt. A Black African civilization.
and NON-of the nations you stated are african (I would still say the middle east is the first land of civilization BY FAR).
As I stated before, Ancient egypt was not a black country, I am not trying to say anything against black people, but egypt is Egyptian they are brown looking people, they may have had some nubians, but still it was not a black nation.
"NON-of the nations you stated are african (I would still say the middle east is the first land of civilization BY FAR)"
what do you mean? are you trying to say that i think chinese is african?????? tell you what, you better make you sure you know what i'm talking about before you started making a fuss.
@theray2006 @ theray. Civilization started in AFRICA. Where the HELL are you getting your misinformation from? Ethiopia, Nubia and ANcient Egypt is ALL older then some DAMN Iraq. 2) Egypt is Brown, Brown Black the same DAMN thing. The Ancient Egyptians had the same complexion as Michael Jordan or Eddie Murphy, last i checked they are BLACK!
I don't know about china but East Africans definitely existed in southwest India.. go research the Indus Valley Civilization; there are still descended peoples in that region known as Dalits who have an affinity with Africans as being their ancestral peoples.
egyptain teachers htought in all these places,and the great european greeks romans etc came to learn in egypt then too the knowledge to europe,look at socrates,plato,phytagarous,jesus, moses,and egypt is african and in the middle east.
@theray2006 Who has agreed that civilization started in the middle east? No research has proven that. What the evidence is showing is the FIRST civilization started in Africa...Egypt specifically and it was Black and African.
according to the Guinness Book of World Records the worlds oldest university is the University of Al-Karaouine in Morocco Fes in the year 859, they gave degrees and had faculties and they used arabic as their language (still in operation).
Guess where the second oldest university is?
Egypt Cairo 975,al-Azhar University, and it is still in operation, and what the hell their langauge was arabic.
the first university to be built in europe was in Italy 250 years after the arabs.
first off, you are talking to someone who is knowledgeable about the subject. if the AFRICAN IS THE FIRST MAN ON EARTH, THEN HOW COULD SUMERIA OR BABYLON BE GREATER THAN KMT? YOUR SENSE OF HISTORY IS FALSE!
africa had first knowledge in science math and structures theres no dout...... im sure india has contributed so much and alot of other nations but africa was the foundation... people say asia was but thats bull first human beings were in africa whether your religious or not..... so as knowledge progressed it started heading north and other nations started applying this into there lives and extending on it its just sad for me as an african to see the world than to look at africa at its state.
Africans have been writing waaaaay before anyone. all religion and science was started in Africa. but what saddens me is that the brother in the blue agbada said that since the 11th century there was literacy. KMT started writing and accelerated mathematics. not the arabs.
the first ppl who created literacy agriculture and all the basic sciences were in current day Iraq and they are not arabs. the first cilization, the first citys and basically all the abrahimic and other religions came from the middle east, even carthaginians (in north africa) came from the middle east (phonicians current day lebanon)...
regarding this video the literacy the culture even the names are arabic and they are muslim.
@xekul I don't think the people in Mali (or anywhere in West Africa) would do that. You'd be more likely to run into such violence and barbarity in certain spots in the Middle East.
...about time, i really hope all of these gets out to everyone in the world. Enough of western educational institution forcing pupils of every background to learn about the Roman and Greek cultures, gods and accomplishments. The pupils need to have a choice as to what to learn. We need to know about Africa's influence and contribution to the world in the past and today.
dude what about Indian Subcontinent's contribution....The cities here were at their pomp even as people were just learning to farm in Africa(Read as Egypt)
prove that. lets see your chronology sanjay3nme.the anu were before that. the scorpion king was anu. read cheik anta diop. he is widely accepted. you will see the facts. i am aware that the buddist OM is 786, the most holiest number for the muslim. but why do the faces of buddah and angor wat look black? why do some indians have celebrations where they paint themselves black? is khrishna in sanskrit mean black? did egyptians go to asia and set up kingdoms? yes they did. look at your features...
Plato, Aristotle and their elitist republic views should have been burned and Epicurus promoted instead.
The court historians, court reporters and court jesters are still screwing with people's minds.
These days they don't have to force the slaves and citizens to attend the brainwashing theater, they deliver it over the tell lie vision altar in the rooms we used to use for living.
The slave owners run their farms far easier these days. Most free range debt slaves think they are really free
Wowzer, flying in the face of the neo-eugenicist who cling to modern day IQ propaganda. If you dig deeper you'll realize that at its height Timbuktu was what we would consider in the context of pre modern societies a 1st world country, urban and learning centers included. Nicely paved roads and all, it really flies in the face of the "primitive negro" myth. 80% of the gold that spurred the European Renaissance and economy came from this area. Books were a major commodity. Long live mother Africa
Have you not read that Afican immigrants to the US more than double the white American population in level of academic attainment? According to Africaresource (dot) com, they have IQs that are between 5 and 15 points above that of White Americans.
Yeahhh, they're doing slightly better than Asian immigrants. I knew some Nigerians in school who could speak 4 languages fluently. They are obsessed with degrees. I just made the comment because on HateTube people like to down play Africa's achievements, especially sub-sahara. It's good to know West Africa started the 3rd University in the world (Sankore) and at one point was a true power base.
@BlackmatterX Read mbukukanyau's comment and maybe you'll see where I'm coming from.
TutankhAusar 1 month ago
يحول بعض من الزنوج والغربيين وبعض من الجرانينا العرب بشراء كتابت تاريخنا وجدودنا بالمال لك يطمس هويتنا االاسلامية ولامازيغية في الصحراء الكبراء...........في هذه الفديو
touregman1 2 months ago
this is cool stuff. Africa has a unique history of it's own, arguably influenced by Islam but not anymore than Northern Europe is influenced by the ancient Greeks and Romans. It's cool to see that this did not go the way of the dodo, if Africa would have any chance to re-find it's past greatness, it is only through re-discovering it's past and trying to revive it's this culture--not some faux-european derived culture. i'm not African but i find this hella is cool.
arivas713 6 months ago 4
For any racist out there, African Language in its root has even been linked to the oldest Chinese lost and unused languages. In fact when they discovered the correlation it helped them to translate it and make sense of the cultures that existed there. Africans had a pretty unique and extensive writing and recording system well before even the 8th century. The problem is war and natural deterioration process. Look at how bad these books where and this was the desert.
Ryukikon 6 months ago 2
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@bussmove TRUE-
THE FACT MOST AFRICAN AND OTHER POST COLONIAL COUNTRIES HAD TO BUY THEIR INDEPENDENCE FROM EUROPEAN COUNTRIES WHICH CREATED "THIRD WORLD DEBT" IS RARELY BROADCAST.
Swmn9 8 months ago
@TheThroneOfGenocide @HyperboreasGlacius @phoenician7
NOW if the ancient city of TIMBUCTU were already writing by the 10th CENTURY in as well as the EMPIRE of GHANA by the 8th CENTURY in the ORIGINAL SUDANI arabic SCRIPT. So wouldn't that mean that the MOORS who came from WESTERN SUDAN were from these WESTERN SUDANESE empires?!?!
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA
euroCENTRIsts are amazing!!!
dogons2k12 8 months ago 2
@dogons2k12 Eurocentrists main job is to denationalize black Africans AROUND THE WORLD. Divide and Conquer.
BlackmatterX 3 months ago
@mbukukanyau Lynch yourself, black man.
TutankhAusar 8 months ago
@TutankhAusar Why should the black man lynch himself when it is non-blacks who are hybrid descendants of his Norman perfect gene called ALBINOS who suffer from albinism and were biblical lepers. You should thank the black man. He is the reason you genetic mutants have the "tiny bit" melanin which gets its blackness from Carbon, the building blocks of life. ALL living beings need carbon, which you lack.
BlackmatterX 3 months ago
@mbukukanyau "Africans should stop re-living their past, what have we to show now?"
You as an AFRICAN should be ashamed to UTTER such succinct statements.
Its because of that type of mentality of not knowing your history that a foreigner would write their version of YOUR OWN history that they see fit.
WAKE UP DUDE
dogons2k12 9 months ago
"the first architects, first philosophers, astronmomers, the first prophets and the doctors was us!" - nas & damian marley song: Africa Must Wake Up
newcovenant101 9 months ago 2
Africans should stop re-living their past, what have we to show now?
mbukukanyau 11 months ago
@mbukukanyau Understanding the past is key to the know how of present day Africans. The question "what have we to show know?" Defeats the purpose of the Documentary .Each and every country needs to study its history in order to understand the growth that it can have.
blueiguy1 10 months ago
three haters can't handle the truth... long live mama Africa!!
iayyam 11 months ago 2
There were Many influences in it's foundation, (due to trade) Mandinka, Tureg, Arab etc, but lets get real. Timbucktoo was a black civilization
shariefwat 1 year ago
besides it is scientifically proven that everything started in africa and also includes education,were sorry to cast u all out n made u to go way far up north,east and west.n thats why they call it MOTHERLAND.lol.......came back with a rage and take our grand parents and made them diversly,n wipe out some of our history.sorry u cant lure bees over their hive :P
babukichwa 1 year ago
cant believe why u all arguing about who is right n who is wrong and to those who after some next racial comments,it is obviously shows u have no aknowledgment about anything,it shows black n white that ur genetic offspring since ur predecessors were FOOLS.Timbuktu was center of enlightment so as the whole africa. did u know that algebra and vector methods started from africa??,u wouldnt know because u r too busy for not thinking beyond to see the light.
babukichwa 1 year ago
and Timbuktu was the crossroads for the african/islamic slave trade........think on africans...you profited more than most for enslaving your own people as well as Scots/Irish/Norman/Spanish/Saxons/Vickings/etc etc...
macbrack04 1 year ago
Arab people created Timbuktu not African black!! NO Islam and the great Arab created Timbuktu and the Africans were our slaves! AU Muhammad will be very angry!!
jamrock1ful 1 year ago
@jamrock1ful
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jamrock1ful
first of all you stupid fuck arabs did not creat timbuktu, as a matter of fact not everybody in the madé empire was muslim at the time but what you need to know is that the peopel of timbuctu was buisness men so they traveled to different countries like europe, greece, the arab world and other parts of the world and copied work and procedded and worked on it and gathered their own knowledge no different from that people today gather knowledge from other countries
courtesy55 1 year ago
@courtesy55
Exactly correct. It's a clear distortion that claims Malian culture was Arab/Islamic based; it was not; the common people did not celebrate it as a regular practice, and, as ancestor 's Chiek Anta Diop and Ivan Van Sertima have asserted, was only used by the government, then, for trade purposes (Arabs controlled most of the trade routes which dealt with the transfer of goods from Africa, Europe and Asia then).
shango1963 1 year ago
@jamrock1ful - Timbuktu was a Tuareg-Berber seasonal encampment that was annexed by Mansa Musa (a Mande' King) and made part of the Ancient Malian Empire. Immediately following his annexation of Timbuktu, Mansa Musa ordered the building of a palace, universities, and mosques, and sent hundreds, if not thousands of scholars to teach and live there. Arabs had nothing to do with it. You won't find a SINGLE historic reference to any Arabs ever conquering, or controlling Ancient Mali.
m018264808888 1 year ago
@jamrock1ful - cont...
Also, not one single non-Mande person ever ruled the Ancient Malian Empire. The only reason they converted to Islam was to expand trade into North Africa. The reason they wrote many of their scrolls
in Arabic, was because that was the language of the quran, and was more widely known by the various groups living in the Empire. All of the various Mande groups had their own Poro/Sande-related writing systems though. Also, they were never slaves to any Arabs. That's insane.
m018264808888 1 year ago 2
@m018264808888 u are so right, Africans had writing systems before the Arabs came along. I'm in grad school and I did a paper on the many writing systems of Africa.
smoothnubian 9 months ago
@smoothnubian - The majority of these racist individuals in this forum don't even bother to study history before making a comment about it. The Mande' people who built the Ancient Malian empire were my ancestors, and I know a great deal about our history. Many of the scrolls that are described as being written in Arabic, are in fact written in Mande' (Manden ka), or Dogo (the original language of the Mani people), using the Arabic alphabet only, but not the language its self.
m018264808888 9 months ago 2
@smoothnubian - cont...
A modern equivalent of this would be how we English speakers can recognize most or all of the letters used in the Spanish, French, etc., written languages, but cannot necessarily understand the words formed, using those letters that we recognize. In addition, many of the scrolls in Timbuktu and other places in Mali, were written in indigenous scripts. There are many written languages indigenous to Africa: Adinkra, Tifingh, Ethiopic, etc., some people are just uneducated.
m018264808888 9 months ago
Chambe jumba has no history! ahahahahahahaha
jamrock1ful 1 year ago
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CELL111able 1 year ago
African history is mud huts, spears, tribal wars and cannibalism. Thats it. Stop stealing egypt's history and others you stupid nigs.
hannityforpres 1 year ago
@hannityforpres dude stop hating on your ancestors thats your history fucker
chitownzfinesthustla 1 year ago
first of all of some of you guys do proper research,blacks where already educated beforethe 1300's in mali.when the arabs came there the arabs were not on the same level of the blacks. second writing was in africa before the perisans.look up up african scripts in google and type in timbuktu in google in wikipeda.stop being so damn lazy.
CELL111able 1 year ago
@CELL111able You clown tubukt2 is not that old lol idiot hahaha they only had writing because of the Arabs going there about 800 years ago befor that they had shit stop smoking crack lol
lar5220 1 year ago
@lar5220 timbuktu is around was built around 1100 a.d.writing was use in the ghan kingosm around 700 a.d. you forget that. jenne had writing before timbuktu the arabs brought in thier writing before timbuktu in west africa,dummy.
CELL111able 1 year ago
@lar5220 you stop stealing black history,and you other comments is full of racist sick incorrect non-sense.when the proof is right in your face you racsit still deny african greatness. that's a mind of a sicko.
CELL111able 1 year ago 2
@CELL111able African history is mud huts tribal war fare and cannibalism that about it stop trying to steel other people history you dumb savage if you go to Africa today nothing has changed in 80000 years over there hahaha only change there brought by cucasions primitive savage hunter gather societies is all that there is in black Africa with out cucasion going there lol stop lying about it
lar5220 1 year ago
@lar5220
Hmmm...lemme see...Nubia, Egypt, to name a few. Whites in Northern Europe did not even have writing systems until Romans civilized those barbarians. The Romans did not have it before the Phoenicians gave it to them. Dorian Greeks not prior to Minoans. And cannibilism, eating human flesh for its own sake, is a white thing (as in the whites who would rather eat each other than starve to death).
shango1963 1 year ago
@lar5220
Hmmm...lemme see...Nubia, Egypt, to name a few. Whites in Northern Europe did not even have writing systems until Romans civilized those barbarians. The Romans did not have it before the Phoenicians gave it to them. Dorian Greeks not prior to Minoans. And cannibilism, eating human flesh for its own sake, is a white thing (as in the whites who would rather eat each other than starve to death). Arab writing itself is African. lol
shango1963 1 year ago 2
=)
I'm so happy.
If I were a Christian I'd holler, "Thank You Jesus!"
RoachBurger 1 year ago
instead of trying to live in the glories of their past, it would be more productive to move Timbuktu forward into the 21st century.
tikogal01 1 year ago
@tikogal01 that is cool that the Arabs educated blacks back in 1300 and not just make slaves of them
lar5220 1 year ago
Arab does not want to sell those books! and look at the way them are treating those books in a dusty old box and man handling those very very badly indeed, they don't even look very old, 1300s lol I don't believe a world, if so they should be wearing gloves at least.. but there are not real that's why.. I know all about ink and printing and they are fake I reckon! One more thing, where did they get the paper from as its more or less a desert in Timbuktu! ?!
MarcADenham 1 year ago
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Arab does not want to sell those books! and look at the way them are treating those books in a dusty old box and man handling those books very badly, they don't look very old 1300s lol I don't believe a world, if so they should be wearing gloves at least.. but there not real that's why.. I know all about ink and printing and they are fake, word!
MarcADenham 1 year ago
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MarcADenham 1 year ago
Omg the people of Timbuktu WERE NOT ARAB. They did not gain ALL of their knowledge from Arabs either. Trading goes back and forth. That is including goods AND brains.
The Lost Libraries of Timbuktu
watch?v=iYMkTxNQGGU
This is also a good documentary.
GGLebo23 1 year ago
Just goes to show u the Arabs r tryin to hold on to $hit that doesnt belong to them.
TheHeruReturns 2 years ago
Just goes to show how Africans are trying to preserve their history which is being ignored by ignorant fools like you.
knowthetruth1492 2 years ago
@TheHeruReturns arabs took islam civ to the blacks not the other way around
lar5220 1 year ago
@lar5220
Correction, islam was assisted in foundation by clacks. Have you heard of Muhammad's Ethiopian tutors, hired by his wealthy first wife? They are contemporary misinterpreted as his slaves, but can you not say that their Ethiopian mysticism did not i influence him? Additionally, Muhammad's first converts were from ETHIOPIA, no Arabia -- Arabs were Muhammeds most bitter enemies in the beginning, hence the battles of Mecca!
RoachBurger 1 year ago
@RoachBurger I do not no what you are saying first writing comes from Persia not Africa in the first place so does not matter who he was around it all came from Persia not in Africa or ethiopians who were chistion in the first place who got writing from the christions Arabs or persian and there not black
lar5220 1 year ago
@lar5220 Google Ancient African Writings
cgreenartpro1 1 year ago
To question if universities that ran for over 600 years at its peak in the heart of sub-saharan Africa had black scholars is like asking if tany white people attend German schools. Not to mention that it was the Arab element that practically pulled Europe out of its savage barbaric dark age and spurred the Reniassance. They have an estimated 700,000 scripts today not including ones that were either lost in trade or destroyed. One can only wonder what part it played in moorish Spains revival.
FreshD2008 2 years ago
Arab? The Moors were negroes.
NobleSkeptic 2 years ago 5
Arab as in culture, not nationality.
FreshD2008 2 years ago 6
Got'cha
NobleSkeptic 2 years ago
@FreshD2008
The term "arab" is loosely defined. Mali and Timbuctoo is Sahelian in culture. Namely Mande, Fulani, Songhai, Amazigh, and Hausa. Even the script is a modified Arabic for those languages called Ajami.
lionzion22 1 year ago
Contrary to what this jerk
theSOASstudent is saying, the greatest thing about African scholarship is knowing not only that it is original but that our ancestors genuinely sought knowledge and distributed it peacefully and amicably. we should be proud of that intellectual heritage alone as other nations tended to force ideals upon others. the centers at Ra'Kedet and Timbuktu were genuine centers for learning while other ancient Universities held agendas such as Greeks' ethnocentric Akademia.
rey9883 2 years ago
are you really so racist that you would deny evidence that has just been presented before your eyes? Like many Islamic Universities (including those of Portugal and Spain) of course they studied religion but they also studies Mathematics, Sciences such as chemistry and astronomy and even nutrition and Medicine.. I would have to say, this doesn't seem much different from Catholic universities such as Fordham and Loyola.. what you are doing is holding on to archaic racists notions.. let it go!!!
rey9883 2 years ago
Thats funny! that Egypt is a part of middle east and not Africa. How come they won the African cup of nations? and then you go to colour. It is not colour brown of black that make one an African. African belongs to black people, arabs, and all other people who are coloured or not but have established there presence and call Africa home. What colour was queen Nefertiti? Grey, brown, black or white? read your history
coroscoredem 3 years ago
they are still part of north africa but north africa lies in the middle east,africa is the continent but middle east is just an area which encompass some of asia,europe and africa and ancient afrcians were nubian blacks,but the invaders were muslim of different complexion thats why there are arabs there also
bussmove 3 years ago
Ok, now i understand. thank you for this info
coroscoredem 3 years ago
just look at the africans today, using the languages their colonizer had left them, living within the borders their colonizers had drawn...cant the african 'civilizations' at least use their own languages? that's the least some which could be counted as civilization could do. i did like to ask, dont the african 'civilizations' have anything contributing to the developements of the human society at all besides their rich mineral resources?
wangb13 3 years ago
if africa was not invaded and colonialized it would have been great,the colonizers destroyed the countries history killed the people and seperate them for them to kill each other,then used their minerals to build europe richies and power and left some places in africa poor
bussmove 3 years ago 18
Lets not even mention, the library at Ra Kedet, that Julius Caesar destroyed.. We African peoples could have has a period of enlightenment millennia before the European renaissance period. regardless, seeing this video brings great joy as now we can study from our own text rather than texts that have been prepared for us from outsiders.
rey9883 2 years ago
@bussmove It all depends on how you look at it if you thnk being a stone age hunter gather with a life span of 30 is good then you are right but if not then you are wrong would not make much of a difference
lar5220 1 year ago
@bussmove TRUE-
THE FACT MOST AFRICAN AND OTHER POST COLONIAL COUNTRIES HAD TO BUY THEIR INDEPENDENCE FROM EUROPEAN COUNTRIES WHICH CREATED
"THIRD WORLD DEBT" IS RARELY BROADCAST.
Swmn9 8 months ago 2
Cilization is DIFFRENT than where humans are.
IF humans came from africa that is another issue, but the matter is about civilization. they are agreed upon to have started first in the middle east (that includes egypt), I have nothing against africans but north africans are brown-white who look arabs, that's where the civilization was, and so Timbuktu was influenced by THESE ppl, that's why the ppl in the video have arabic names and are muslim.
and the writing is in ARABIC.
theray2006 3 years ago
The Empire of Wagandu (Ghana) was established before the Arabs arrived and on their way to litteracy, having developed symbols. Wagandu had cities and urban centres. Even after Arabs arrived some elements of Juju (Vodoo) survived even with Islam. Now, The University of Sankoore was the third University in the world with 25,000 scholars at its peak. Asking if these scholars were black is like asking if the kangaroo lives in Australia. THIS WAS THE HEART OF WEST AFRICA....
FreshD2008 3 years ago 2
If Europeans can not be credited for having built the civilization that they found when they ''discovered America'', do you think that the Arabs who came with the expansion of Islam a couple of centuries ago should be credited with the Egyptian civilization that they found?
How many Arabs (ethnic ones) do you see with braided hair as we can see on almost all the ancient Egyptian representation? Do you have an answer to that?
risbo3000 3 years ago 4
Have you been to egypt???
Egyptions are not ethnicaly arabs, and who said that arabs are accredited with their civilization?
Ancient egypt was not a black country, I am not trying to say anything against black people, but egypt is Egyptian they are brown looking people, they may have had some nubians, but still it was not a black nation.
In regards to that ancient time their was no arab civilization, only samarian, assyrian (semetic ppl like jews and arabs) and maybe some early asian ppl.
theray2006 3 years ago
@theray2006 Ancient Egypt was BLACK...everyone is always trying to steal our history because it was so great. All of western civilization is predicated on ancient Egypt. A Black African civilization.
iayyam 1 year ago
@risbo3000 Lovely!!!
iayyam 1 year ago
civilization started in africa.Arabs are evilous just like the europeans..
jahguide010 3 years ago
Humans MAY have started in africa.
But the first civilization, started in the MIDLLE EAST, samarian in mespotamia, (IRAQ)
The first proven (HISTORICALY) city in the world Areeha (Jericho) in palastine.
The Law, Wheel, Agriculture, Writing and all the basic sciences in the WORLD. were invented in samaria
theray2006 3 years ago
however, egyptian, hindu and chinese civilization started almost at the same time as that of the middle east.
wangb13 3 years ago
Egypt is part of the middle east my dear friend.
and NON-of the nations you stated are african (I would still say the middle east is the first land of civilization BY FAR).
As I stated before, Ancient egypt was not a black country, I am not trying to say anything against black people, but egypt is Egyptian they are brown looking people, they may have had some nubians, but still it was not a black nation.
Those are facts, either you like it or not
theray2006 3 years ago
"NON-of the nations you stated are african (I would still say the middle east is the first land of civilization BY FAR)"
what do you mean? are you trying to say that i think chinese is african?????? tell you what, you better make you sure you know what i'm talking about before you started making a fuss.
wangb13 3 years ago
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throbule 2 years ago
@wangb13 umn no egypt was first in middleeast didnt exist then so fuck the arabs
chitownzfinesthustla 1 year ago
plus, my dear friend
wangb13 3 years ago
@theray2006 @ theray. Civilization started in AFRICA. Where the HELL are you getting your misinformation from? Ethiopia, Nubia and ANcient Egypt is ALL older then some DAMN Iraq. 2) Egypt is Brown, Brown Black the same DAMN thing. The Ancient Egyptians had the same complexion as Michael Jordan or Eddie Murphy, last i checked they are BLACK!
mrfreaknasssty 1 year ago
@theray2006 u r such an idiot. learn geography egypt is in Africa. keep dreaming on idiot!!
curvaciousakos 1 year ago
egytpian history is far older and they show nubian black existed in ancient china and they found bones,painting and statues to prove it,
bussmove 3 years ago
I don't know about china but East Africans definitely existed in southwest India.. go research the Indus Valley Civilization; there are still descended peoples in that region known as Dalits who have an affinity with Africans as being their ancestral peoples.
rey9883 2 years ago
egyptain teachers htought in all these places,and the great european greeks romans etc came to learn in egypt then too the knowledge to europe,look at socrates,plato,phytagarous,jesus, moses,and egypt is african and in the middle east.
bussmove 3 years ago 2
Ha!ha!theray2006 you dont know what you talking about humans and civilization started in africa whether you like it or not, it did.
jahguide010 3 years ago
all the basic sicences in the WORLD were invented in samaria? what about the chinese civilization? lol
wangb13 3 years ago
what abou the chinese.
I am not trying to say that chinese had no role.
but I am talking abou THE START of civ.
theray2006 3 years ago
@theray2006 this is utter nonsense... the first civilization in the world was in Egypt and it was black and African.
iayyam 1 year ago
there not writing in arabic! they are using the arabic alphabet but they have there own written language. like english uses the greek alphabet.
jankraw 1 year ago
@theray2006 Who has agreed that civilization started in the middle east? No research has proven that. What the evidence is showing is the FIRST civilization started in Africa...Egypt specifically and it was Black and African.
iayyam 1 year ago
according to the Guinness Book of World Records the worlds oldest university is the University of Al-Karaouine in Morocco Fes in the year 859, they gave degrees and had faculties and they used arabic as their language (still in operation).
Guess where the second oldest university is?
Egypt Cairo 975,al-Azhar University, and it is still in operation, and what the hell their langauge was arabic.
the first university to be built in europe was in Italy 250 years after the arabs.
theray2006 3 years ago
first off, you are talking to someone who is knowledgeable about the subject. if the AFRICAN IS THE FIRST MAN ON EARTH, THEN HOW COULD SUMERIA OR BABYLON BE GREATER THAN KMT? YOUR SENSE OF HISTORY IS FALSE!
bxlunar 3 years ago
Duh!!!!! there was an University in India operating in India from 427 to 1197 CE..
The irony is A visiting Muslim scholar descibed as the One of the greatest Universities and it was destroyed by Muslim Invaders
sanjay3nme 3 years ago
I refrenced myself according to the Guinness Book of World Records, not "sanjay3nme" claims,,,
I am talking about history PROVEN by HISORIANS and agreed upon, not talking from my head about what pleases me to say.......
The fact of the matter is we are talking about the video, its in africa and the written language and culture are arbic.
WHAT THE HELL DOES INDIA HAVE TO DO WITH THIS??????
theray2006 3 years ago
africa had first knowledge in science math and structures theres no dout...... im sure india has contributed so much and alot of other nations but africa was the foundation... people say asia was but thats bull first human beings were in africa whether your religious or not..... so as knowledge progressed it started heading north and other nations started applying this into there lives and extending on it its just sad for me as an african to see the world than to look at africa at its state.
portilop 3 years ago
Africans have been writing waaaaay before anyone. all religion and science was started in Africa. but what saddens me is that the brother in the blue agbada said that since the 11th century there was literacy. KMT started writing and accelerated mathematics. not the arabs.
bxlunar 3 years ago
Oh for gods sake the writing is in arabic.
what are you talking about?
theray2006 3 years ago
where the arabs the ones who created literacy????? IF YOU SAY YES, THEN, I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU.
bxlunar 3 years ago
what the hell are you talking about?
the first ppl who created literacy agriculture and all the basic sciences were in current day Iraq and they are not arabs. the first cilization, the first citys and basically all the abrahimic and other religions came from the middle east, even carthaginians (in north africa) came from the middle east (phonicians current day lebanon)...
regarding this video the literacy the culture even the names are arabic and they are muslim.
Respect
theray2006 3 years ago
id love to go to mali but i dont want to run the risk of getting kidnapped and having my head cut off on the internet.
xekul 3 years ago
@xekul I don't think the people in Mali (or anywhere in West Africa) would do that. You'd be more likely to run into such violence and barbarity in certain spots in the Middle East.
ureallysuckglobes 6 months ago
So what if it was the center of the universe in the 12th century? Continue living in the past you losers!
cffu 3 years ago
Mansa"Kan Kan" Musa mada a pilgrimage to meccca accompanied by 500 servants all dressed in silk.He also brought so much gold
that the price of gold instantly dropped.
Spains ancient map have a picture of him
holding a gold nugget near Mali on the map.
9ways2win 3 years ago
Dude... he spent so much gold he sent Egypt back in a recession 12 whole years!
Yeah,
He was ballin'
FreshD2008 3 years ago
Fascinating doco.
TheSanityInspector 3 years ago
Here you have the remains of the world's oldest university.Mali is a wonderful place. Thank you so much for this film.
Pillowbooker3 3 years ago 2
thats not nice to say to a retadr and im jesuses son and dad thinks your an idiot
creten69 3 years ago
...about time, i really hope all of these gets out to everyone in the world. Enough of western educational institution forcing pupils of every background to learn about the Roman and Greek cultures, gods and accomplishments. The pupils need to have a choice as to what to learn. We need to know about Africa's influence and contribution to the world in the past and today.
ronqie 3 years ago
dude what about Indian Subcontinent's contribution....The cities here were at their pomp even as people were just learning to farm in Africa(Read as Egypt)
sanjay3nme 3 years ago
India innnovated not doubt. They contributed to the sciences, had the first University, etc.
Just giving Mali its props...
It had the 3rd University in recorded history...
The largest library since Alexandria in its heyday
FreshD2008 3 years ago
prove that. lets see your chronology sanjay3nme.the anu were before that. the scorpion king was anu. read cheik anta diop. he is widely accepted. you will see the facts. i am aware that the buddist OM is 786, the most holiest number for the muslim. but why do the faces of buddah and angor wat look black? why do some indians have celebrations where they paint themselves black? is khrishna in sanskrit mean black? did egyptians go to asia and set up kingdoms? yes they did. look at your features...
bxlunar 3 years ago
Dude i guess you are colour Blind :P, there's a differance between Black and Brown...we are brown and Krishna means Dark and not Black.
And for your information Tamil Civilization and Indus valley Civilization was at its peak even as the Egyptians were learning to Farm :D
And for God's sake no one paints themselves black...the ones who do belong to aghori sect, and they paint themselves for completely different reasons
sanjay3nme 3 years ago
what is dark? but, you are in germany, and you must fit in i guess. if you can, please include dates. thank you.
bxlunar 3 years ago
western education is better than most,..but I agree there is always room for improvement
johntabbot 3 years ago
Its possible that undiscovered works of Plato Aristotle or other Greek manuscripts can be found in Timbuktus Libraries!
Ok subsahara , but Muslim subsahara!
zigsauer 3 years ago
Plato, Aristotle and their elitist republic views should have been burned and Epicurus promoted instead.
The court historians, court reporters and court jesters are still screwing with people's minds.
These days they don't have to force the slaves and citizens to attend the brainwashing theater, they deliver it over the tell lie vision altar in the rooms we used to use for living.
The slave owners run their farms far easier these days. Most free range debt slaves think they are really free
SlaveStorm 3 years ago
that guys voice is so damn annoying
Choopmans 3 years ago
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i bet their stolen,those fukn books need to be in a museum,those assholes are ruining them, wtf?
creten69 3 years ago
opps i didnt watch the whole thing,my bad.There is no being ahead in civilization,civilization just stands for population, and all people suck.
creten69 3 years ago
but what happend
the way the books are scatered around
look as if they were plunder hidden away
scotishjohn 3 years ago
Wowzer, flying in the face of the neo-eugenicist who cling to modern day IQ propaganda. If you dig deeper you'll realize that at its height Timbuktu was what we would consider in the context of pre modern societies a 1st world country, urban and learning centers included. Nicely paved roads and all, it really flies in the face of the "primitive negro" myth. 80% of the gold that spurred the European Renaissance and economy came from this area. Books were a major commodity. Long live mother Africa
FreshD2008 3 years ago
I suggest "Wonders of the African World" a BBC series by Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr.
wonderful series that explores what you are talking about and debunks that primitive myth.
cheers
iaeruo 3 years ago 3
Have you not read that Afican immigrants to the US more than double the white American population in level of academic attainment? According to Africaresource (dot) com, they have IQs that are between 5 and 15 points above that of White Americans.
bluecafe22 3 years ago 2
Yeahhh, they're doing slightly better than Asian immigrants. I knew some Nigerians in school who could speak 4 languages fluently. They are obsessed with degrees. I just made the comment because on HateTube people like to down play Africa's achievements, especially sub-sahara. It's good to know West Africa started the 3rd University in the world (Sankore) and at one point was a true power base.
FreshD2008 3 years ago 5
@FreshD2008 ....and Egypt started the first university.
iayyam 1 year ago
And this dingus handles it like frozen meat from costco
utubeelliott 3 years ago